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RE: Developing a social memory complex - Sena - 06-06-2021
(06-06-2021, 11:13 AM)Anders Wrote: I didn't find much about blood from Ra or Q'uo when I did a quick search. Steiner said that blood is the most flexible material in the body, and it's through the blood spirit informs matter and Lucifer has confused our blood in our fallen state (third density). Something like that.Anders, I found these references to the Planet Venus by the theosophist Alice Bailey:
That made me think that Holy Blood, sangreal, "royal blood" and the Holy Grail represent a restoration of our blood into unity with spirit. What I find interesting is that it makes it possible that it's spirit that creates the shape of matter. Jesus talked about being born again through water and Spirit. Could mean that the water in the blood becomes infused with spirit.
Quote:d. It is the Earth's primary or spiritual prototype." (S.D. II. 33-35.)
5. "The planetary Logos of Venus loved the Earth so well that He incarnated and gave it perfect laws which were disregarded and rejected." (S.D. II. 38.)
6. "Every sin committed on Earth is felt in Venus. Every change in Venus is reflected on Earth." (S.D. II. 35.)
(S.D. refers to the book The Secret Doctrine This book is by Madame Blavatsky, so I am not sure why that website refers to Alice Bailey.)
https://www.lucistrust.org/online_books/esoteric_astrology_obooks/appendix_suggestions_for_students/the_planetvenus
The book, "Esoteric Astrology" by Alice Bailey is available for download here:
https://b-ok.cc/book/5262984/519fa7
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Sena - 06-06-2021
This is a quote from Alice Bailey's book, Esoteric Astrology:
Quote:When the task of Saturn and of Mercury has been accomplished, then during the third
decanate, Venus, which is the union of heart and mind, will usher in the long hoped for era of
love-wisdom, of brotherhood and of expressed brotherly relationships. Opportunity—
Illumination—Brotherhood: these are the gifts that Shamballa is planning to confer upon
mankind during the Aquarian Age, if man will but prepare for them, accept them, and use them.
Only the future will make clear man's reaction.
Bailey seems to be describing, in different words, the process of graduation from third to fourth density.
Alice Bailey has been mentioned previously on this forum:
https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=16490&pid=251453&highlight=bailey#pid251453
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-06-2021
Gigi Young has talked about the importance of fire in esoteric teachings. The Statue of Liberty, Prometeus etc have a flame representing this fire which in turn represents Venus according to Gigi. I will listen to A Treatise on Cosmic Fire by Alice Bailey.
Ra has this curious comment about fire:
Quote:"Questioner: The specific question that I had was that it seems to me that the choice was planned to create intense polarization past third density so that experience would be intense past third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. Given that our interpretation of your sound vibration complexes is appropriate, this is incorrect. The intensity of fourth density is that of the refining of the rough-hewn sculpture. This is, indeed, in its own way, quite intense causing the mind/body/spirit complex to move ever inward and onward in its quest for fuller expression. However, in third density the statue is forged in the fire. This is a type of intensity which is not the property of fourth, fifth, sixth, or seventh densities." - Law of One 77.15
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-06-2021
Like Wanderers, there might be Venusians running around on earth trapped in the beast stream. And then they are basically the same as us regular humans on earth. The difference is when the Venusians on earth are in the solar stream, and according to the information I have learned there are at least some Venusians among us who are in the solar stream.
And the main different from what I have gathered is that those in the solar stream have the solar prana activated in their blood. And us in the beast stream have blood without solar prana activated. And it's through the blood that the spirit is activated, and this includes I suspect even green-ray activation which then is about activating the solar prana in the blood, which in turn will affect/open the heart center.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-07-2021
Is there any truth to the idea that the blood is where spirit enters our body? I got the idea from Rudolf Steiner who said something similar and that blood is related to the sun. Yes, I believe there is truth to it. Even on a biological level, for example fear is a result of the fight-or-flight response being activated, which in turn means that chemicals such as stress hormones are released into the blood. And those chemicals come from glands in the body who themselves have been programmed through other chemicals in the blood.
And the glands Steiner said, are related to Venus. So that's a sun-to-Venus connection, consistent with what Gigi Young has said. And I think Alice Bailey said, among with others, that it's actually spirit that informs matter, rather than the other way around as is believed still today in mainstream science and medicine. One (or the) esoteric perspective is that the physical body, including the blood and the glands, is a result of spirit.
But then what about chemicals such as medicines and other substances which affect the body? One illustration that came to me is to think of the physical body as the hands of a clock. If the clock hands are manipulated through external force, it will change the behavior of the clock, similar to how chemicals ingested from an external source can for instance alter how our brain functions. In this analogy spirit represents the mechanics of the clock and the clock hands represent physical reality.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-07-2021
I haven't found much esoteric information about blood yet. In exoteric Christianity Christ's blood is important symbolism. And I found this verse in the Bible:
Quote:"For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life." - Leviticus 17:11
Blood is also important in occult circles. I found this video about the occult significance of blood by Rudolf Steiner:
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
Rudolf Steiner said that scientists who deny the existence of spirituality, such as the etheric body, are like blind people denying the existence of colors. That's a fair point although it's difficult to verify his claim without having direct personal experience of the spiritual phenomena.
That's a pretty frustrating situation. But even from a mainstream perspective the blood programs the organs and the organs program the blood. So the blood is like the main feedback regulation system of the body. And consciousness can be seen as a part of the spiritual, so at least one can use mindfulness practice to monitor the blood within oneself. So that's my initial approach.
And my guess is that in an STO social memory complex the blood of all the members of the SMC is aligned and coherent in some way. The blood of all the people in the SMC then acts as a single feedback and regulation system.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
I usually research the light instead of the dark side, but it can be useful to learn about the dark side. And it's even interesting that fictional stories about vampires are about needing blood. Gigi Young has several videos about blood, such as:
The dark side uses blood in a parasitic way and the light side brings its own energy in the blood. That made me think that in the beast stream we have "beast blood", meaning that we need to suck energy from others and also that the world power structure such as the banking pyramid sucks energy from our blood. And in the solar stream we have "solar blood" which generates its own energy.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
Santos Bonacchi said that our sun is orbiting Sirius (orbiting each other). And actually I read somewhere that someone had measured the position of Sirius over several years and it remained fixed in relation to the precession! The precession of the equinoxes is the slow wobble of the earth around its axis which takes about 26,000 years.
I suspect that Sirius is our sun's twin star and that it's much closer to us than astronomers believe today (Sirius is very bright in the night sky). And what I find fascinating is that Ra mentioned how a planet in the Sirius solar system has a third density service-to-others social memory complex.
Quote:"Questioner: Could you give me an example of a planet of this nature, both a third-density service-to-others type and a third-density self-service type at this level of, of attainment conditions? And what I find fascinating is that Ra mentioned that the Sirius solar system has a planet with a third density social memory complex on it:
Ra: I am Ra. As far as we are aware there are no negatively oriented third-density social memory complexes. Positively oriented social memory complexes of third density are not unheard of but quite rare. However, an entity from the star Sirius’ planetary body has approached this planetary body twice. This entity is late third-density and is part of a third-density social memory complex. This has been referred to in the previous material. The social memory complex is properly a fourth-density phenomenon." - Law of One 38.7
I made a dot connection and the picture gets slightly more complicated, but just in case it could be true I want to mention it. And that is that it may be that earth joining with Venus may still be only a third density SMC! And that in order to develop a fourth density social memory complex, our Earth/Venus SMC has to join with the SMC in the Sirius solar system.
Santos talked about how the movements of our sun and Sirius produce the shifts in consciousness. That sounds similar to what Ra talked about, how changes of density happen like how a clock strikes the hour.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
I must confess that I maybe have a different belief about planetary development than the Law of One. Or that Ra says the same thing as my belief yet in veiled Law of Confusion terms. Earth is unique, but hardly special. I think of planetary development as an as-below-so-above evolutionary principle which means that just like how every human is unique, no human is special in the sense of being very different. And my current idea is that even galaxies follow this fractal kind of evolution. So when Earth (maybe together with Venus and Sirius) forms a fourth density social memory complex we become a part of the other fourth density civilizations in our galaxy. Are there any fifth density civilizations in our galaxy? Maybe not! Instead it could be that our galaxy the Milky Way is in the process of becoming a fifth density galaxy, and Earth entering a fourth density SMC is then just one additional "living cell" in the galaxy being born (Ra talked about how Earth is about to be born).
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Sena - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 11:16 AM)Anders Wrote: Instead it could be that our galaxy the Milky Way is in the process of becoming a fifth density galaxy, and Earth entering a fourth density SMC is then just one additional "living cell" in the galaxy being born (Ra talked about how Earth is about to be born).Anders, I do like the idea of New Earth.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
@Sena Yes, and I found that all major religions have the description of a new earth. So what Ra means by our world being an illusion could be that we are now living in a form a planetary "fetus" state. Almost scary, haha.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - flofrog - 06-08-2021
(06-08-2021, 12:19 PM)Anders Wrote: @Sena Yes, and I found that all major religions have the description of a new earth. So what Ra means by our world being an illusion could be that we are now living in a form a planetary "fetus" state. Almost scary, haha.
but nice and exciting too...
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
Oh, Rudolf Steiner said that esoteric science cannot be reached through ordinary sense perception on which traditional science is based. Interesting point. What is needed is the development of supersensory perception, he said. What can be observed in the material world according to Steiner are hints about the existence of the reality hidden to ordinary senses.
This can explain why Ra in the Law of One uses such advanced and tricky explanations, because Ra often points to the supersensory (beyond the veil) reality usually hidden from us in third density. What it means to me in practice is that we need to be open to supersensory perception that goes beyond our ordinary third density senses.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-08-2021
The solar stream includes supersensory perception. Thus it's impossible it seems to enter the solar stream from the beast stream through only ordinary perception and activities. What can be done however is to dismantle the beast stream by understanding how it functions.
The beast stream is a result of society and our third density world programming our minds, almost like a (necessary) possession. And this programming is stored in us as tensions who in turn lead to pain. And the nervous system numbs out much of the pain so that it becomes hidden and subconscious. This chronic numbness has a detrimental effect on the organs in the body which in turn degrades the blood.
In the beast stream the blood and the organs in the human body gradually degrade each other. There is even practical evidence for this where elderly rich people do blood transfusions with blood from young people, and experiments done on mice have shown how older mice can be made biologically younger by infusion of blood from young mice, and vice versa were young mice are made biologically aged by transfusion of blood from older mice.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
An almost boring possibility is that the suffering we experience and the personal problems we have are a result of our own inner tensions. It's true that there are for example external Orion forces causing suffering, at least in the form of predatory monetary systems and things like that. It's also true that all those external factors are themselves a product of a low level of survival consciousness.
The good thing about this view is that we can seek to change ourselves without having to worry about what this or that Orion force is doing to us or what problems other people, things and events are causing us. And it seems to me that working on healing oneself is also effective for developing a social memory complex. Struggling with external forces is just a continuation of the low level of survival consciousness.
So can we then just ignore external problems in society and corruption and evil in the world? My view is that healing oneself will help solve external problems since when we gain new insights and knowledge about how to heal ourselves we can teach other people, and even teach/learn as a part of the process of healing oneself.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
Carrie at THE STAND 121 YouTube channel uses the term beast ego. And it sounds to me that it's the same as what I mean by the beast stream. Or more precisely, the beast ego is the beast stream in the form of our personal self in the fallen third density state.
The difficulty with transforming the beast ego is that it's a huge bundle of personal and inherited survival strategy programs. And another difficulty is that when we are trapped in the beast stream, that bundle of survival strategies, which manifests in us as tensions, is all we know! So how to let go of everything we know ourselves to be? Tricky. Jesus said that we should deny ourselves. I think he meant that we need to let go of our beast ego if we want to transcend it.
Carrie has talked about the need to be pierced in the heart and that we need to overcome the water of chaos within ourselves. That to me sounds the same as green-ray activation and removing spiritual entropy, to use Law of One terminology. My latest strategy is to see the beast ego as a bundle of tensions within oneself, and "all" that is needed is to melt those tensions, for example through mindfulness practice.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
Ra said that the term ego is not very useful, something like that. Probably because there are so many different interpretations of what the ego is. The term beast ego is much better, for it has a more precise definition as I described in my previous post. Here is an example from the Bible which can be interpreted with the term beast ego:
Quote:"Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it." - Matthew 16:24-25
In beast ego terms this Bible quote translates to: Whoever wants to reach a higher density must dissolve the tensions of their beast ego. For whoever wants to save their beast ego will lose their higher self, and those who lose their beast ego and activate the green-ray will find their higher self.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
I learned that the vital energy flows in from two directions; 1) from below up into the lower chakras, and 2) from above into the higher chakras. What is needed for green-ray activation then I speculate is to have both energy flows activated.
The flow from the bottom and up is often called kundalini. The flow from the top and down is according this quote from the third eye, the pineal gland OR some say the cerebellum!
Quote:"Inside the Meru, or spinal column, are the six main
centres of Tattvik operation, called Chakras or Padmas,
which are the seats of Shakti, as the Sahasrara above is the
abode of Shiva . 1 These are the Maladhara, Svadhishthana,
Manipura, Anahata, Yishuddha and Ajna, which in the
physical body are said to have their correspondences in the
principal nerve plexuses and organs, commencing from
what is possibly the sacro-coccygeal plexus to the “ space
between the eyebrows,” which some identify with the pineal
gland, the centre of the third or spiritual eye, and others
with the cerebellum." - The Serpent Power By Arthur Avalon
This made to further speculate that the higher mind of the service-to-others social memory complex operates from the cerebellum which contains most of the neurons in the brain.
Quote:"Because of its large number of tiny granule cells, the cerebellum contains more neurons than the total from the rest of the brain, but takes up only 10% of the total brain volume.[9]" - Wikipedia
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
Sadhguru has this recent video about opening the third eye. That got me interested now that I found out that the third eye can mean the cerebellum. Sadhguru mentioned the need to go beyond our ordinary perception. Otherwise there is no way to know, he said. That's similar to what Rudolf Steiner said about esoteric science. One (and the best) way of opening the third eye is to burn down everything inside, thoughts, emotions etc, Sadhguru said. Sounds like burning of the beast ego!
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
Haha, now I got a wild idea. I think it may be true. That the cerebellum in all humans is already controlled collectively and mostly inactive in the beast stream and fully active in the solar stream. The cerebellum controls our physical movements among other things, and my idea is that people in the solar stream can control the cerebellum of people in the beast stream to avoid it clashing with the solar stream.
As Jesus said, he will sort out the goats (beast stream) and the sheep (solar stream). And what Sadhguru said about burning down everything inside is the same thing as what Jesus meant by denying ourselves. In practice it's simply about removing the spiritual entropy caused by the beast ego. And when the spiritual entropy has been removed, the cerebellum can become aligned with the solar stream through activation of the green-ray.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
More of my assumptions: Those in the solar stream can only control the cerebellum of the people in the beast stream in limited ways. Or else the manipulation would become obvious and wreak havoc in society. For example people in the beast stream can be made to experience time lapses and be made to freeze. To cause people to move involuntary in more advanced ways would be too conspicuous.
The enormous and worldwide COVID situation has one profound effect in relation to this. Through social distancing etc the beast stream is now held much firmer in a suppressed state and kept in line. The "new normal" globally and systemically limits the interaction of people in the beast stream. Horrible as the situation is, it's also actually beneficial for the development of the solar stream since beast stream interference is now severely restricted.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
Another thing I assume about the cerebellum is that when activated we will "wake up" into the collective mind of the social memory complex. In spirituality there is often talk about waking up. And the Buddha means the awakened one. I found this from Living the Law of One by Carla Rueckert:
Quote:"The Confederation entities agree with science and religion in
saying that humans are weighed down by all the cultural
information and biases they have learned. They suggest that we
must wake up from the cultural dream into which we were born.
And when we humans do become aware that there is more to life
than the culturally accepted channels of thinking, we start from
scratch as to what we really know for sure.
We are not questioning things within consensus reality like
newspapers being delivered or the electricity being on. We are
seeking a new, “outside the box” reality—a new view of the
physical and spiritual world in which we live. We come to this
deeper seeking process with empty hands. We lay down those
cultural, religious and intellectual assumptions we have learned.
We begin anew with the basic questions: What is really true? Who
am I? What am I doing here? When an assumption is tested, what
solution is found to work?" - https://www.llresearch.org/library/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice/living_the_law_of_one_the_choice.pdf
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-09-2021
An amusing connection to the Bible which may be serious is that "eye" can mean the third eye. And as Arthur Avalon wrote in The Serpent Power, the third eye can mean the pineal gland and also the cerebellum. And activating the cerebellum causing an awakening into our higher self is a sudden event, like in the twinkling of an eye:
Quote:"Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed." - 1 Corinthians 15:51-52
The Bible quote even talks about sleep. And the twinkling of an eye is the activation (sudden event) of the cerebellum (third eye). Also, "raising the dead" hardly means people climbing out of their graves like in a fantasy movie. Instead raising the dead may be a metaphor for the awakening into the higher self. And in this other quote from the Bible Jesus talks about "the eye" in singular, which again could mean the third eye and the cerebellum. And eyes plural then possibly mean the cerebrum (large brain) plus the cerebellum (little brain):
Quote:"22 The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy,[c] your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are unhealthy,[d] your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
c. Matthew 6:22 The Greek for healthy here implies generous.
d. Matthew 6:23 The Greek for unhealthy here implies stingy.
" - Matthew 6:22-23
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-10-2021
Brian Scott collects information from a lot of sources and he has this new video about awakening the crystal light body. I think that could be a necessary part of developing a social memory complex. It would be lopsided I think if we develop a huge collective mind without developing our bodies.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-10-2021
Lol, Brian Scott read about how we will develop cone heads because of our brains expanding during light body development. I think that's complete woo woo (Dr. Bruce Lipton has explained that it's not our brains that will become bigger, instead our minds will get connected into a collective organism which is more in line with Ra's term social memory complex). However Brian read about a lot of other things and something I found interesting was the mentioning of a death hormone. I looked it up on the internet and found:
Quote:"One study has shown that women who were exposed to high levels of stress have shorter telomeres on an average than women who have a more relaxed life (Epel ES, 2004). The association is elusive but obvious—stress increases the hormone cortisol and cortisol reduces the telomere length. So, there must be a silent, mysterious role played by cortisol on telomere length. Since stress increases cortisol levels, and since telomere length has implications on an earlier onset of aging; cortisol may indeed play an active role in accelerated aging. Hence, the moniker ‘Death Hormone’ is quite suitable for cortisol." - SelfGrowth.com
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-10-2021
Sadhguru talked about burning down one's inner self in order to open the third eye. I have managed to feel a burning inside me through mindfulness practice. Rather unpleasant yet fortunately a fairly mild form of suffering, so it's something I will continue to practice.
Even the so-called death hormone I mentioned in my previous post may be burned down in this way. Stress is caused by fear and fear is one of the things that will be burned down because fear causes spiritual entropy by preventing inner peace which it the state free from spiritual entropy.
It's the beast ego that will be burned down. And the beast ego is what causes spiritual entropy. It seems to me that burning down the beast ego is required for an STO SMC, because combining several people into a unified collective consciousness requires harmony between all the individual selves. Imagine adding all the spiritual entropy of several beast egos. That would create a huge mess of conflict and lack of natural unity.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-10-2021
Wow, I now heard from a Rudolf Steiner lecture where he referenced Madame Blavatsky about how the bodhisattvas are people from Venus! And they can appear as human beings and in reality be Maya. Sounds like avatars to me.
And Steiner described how the bodhisattvas function as "parents" for humanity on earth. And I think it makes sense for them to be "Maya" because an advanced race like that can use their collective consciousness to operate the avatars instead of having to reincarnate in person, which would be very tedious considering that it takes thousands of years to develop a human civilization.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 06-10-2021
(06-10-2021, 06:13 PM)Anders Wrote: Wow, I now heard from a Rudolf Steiner lecture where he referenced Madame Blavatsky about how the bodhisattvas are people from Venus! And they can appear as human beings and in reality be Maya. Sounds like avatars to me.
And Steiner described how the bodhisattvas function as "parents" for humanity on earth. And I think it makes sense for them to be "Maya" because an advanced race like that can use their collective consciousness to operate the avatars instead of having to reincarnate in person, which would be very tedious considering that it takes thousands of years to develop a human civilization.
Sounds like Wanderers of Ra to me.
A great many wanderers incarnated on Earth are of Ra.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - jafar - 06-10-2021
(06-10-2021, 06:13 PM)Anders Wrote: Wow, I now heard from a Rudolf Steiner lecture where he referenced Madame Blavatsky about how the bodhisattvas are people from Venus! And they can appear as human beings and in reality be Maya. Sounds like avatars to me.
And Steiner described how the bodhisattvas function as "parents" for humanity on earth. And I think it makes sense for them to be "Maya" because an advanced race like that can use their collective consciousness to operate the avatars instead of having to reincarnate in person, which would be very tedious considering that it takes thousands of years to develop a human civilization.
Within Yogic conception.
Everything that one experienced and exist in this world is "Maya" (Virtual).
Even an identity is Maya.
Identity is a 'karmic construct' and one day shall be obliterated.
You are Maya, I am Maya, Blavatski is Maya, Steiner is Maya, Ra is Maya, Tree is Maya, Cat is Maya.