(09-11-2011, 06:12 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: It makes all the difference in the world. I am not sure if you have grokked the fullness of your efforts quite yet. Thank you for your efforts, and for your commitment to truth.

(09-11-2011, 06:12 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I have also offered my services to Carla, which were kindly declined.

(09-11-2011, 06:12 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: I might also add that, while unity100 and I are on a "break" from our web-relationship, his posts have provided the vast majority of catalyst which I have used to bring forth the ideas expressed in the above posts. So my hat goes out to him as well, even as I am enjoying our "break".

(09-10-2011, 03:16 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: Really? And this besides we know of a pharaoh named Aten who, after having a transformative experience, changed his name to Akhenaten, and proclaimed a new religion built around an entity named Ra, which involved precepts like recognizing the One Infinite Creator present within all things.

Besides this we know Akhenaten to have a highly unusually shaped skull and body the likes of which "just so happen" to be similar to the description of Viracocha, in south america, who promulgated similar belief systems.

2.2 Wrote:Ra: In the Eighteenth Dynasty, as it is known in your records of space/time distortions, we were able to contact a pharaoh, as you would call him. The man was small in life-experience on your plane and was a… what this instrument would call, Wanderer. Thus, this mind/body/spirit complex received our communication distortions and was able to blend his distortions with our own. This young entity had been given a vibratory complex of sound which vibrated in honor of a prosperous god, as this mind/body complex, which we call instrument for convenience, would call “Ammon.” The entity decided that this name, being in honor of one among many gods, was not acceptable for inclusion in his vibratory sound complex. Thus, he changed his name to one which honored the sun disc. This distortion, called “Aten,” was a close distortion to our reality as we understand our own nature of mind/body/spirit complex distortion. However, it does not come totally into alignment with the intended teach/learning which was sent. This entity, Ikhnaton, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the Law of One.

However, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The peoples continued in their beliefs. When this entity was no longer in this density, again the polarized beliefs in the many gods came into their own and continued so until the one known as Muhammed delivered the peoples into a more intelligible distortion of mind/body/spirit relationships.

(09-10-2011, 01:44 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:

Ra Wrote:However, this particular physical vehicle has, for approximately twenty-five of your years, been vital due to the spirit, the mind, and the will being harmoniously dedicated to fulfilling the service it chose to offer.

Again we have twenty five years. Ra says that Carla made a choice to offer a service, and was harmoniously dedicated to it... twenty five years ago. Ra also says that the kidney incident, twenty-five years prior, was in part due to psychic attack.

This is the link between the kidney incident and Carla later channeling Ra. Perhaps I misinterpreted it, but I didn't pull it out of nowhere. I understand this to mean that Carla had already made the Choice at the time of the psychic attack 25 years prior.

63.2 Wrote:Questioner: Was the original problem with the kidneys some 25 years ago caused by psychic attack?

Ra: I am Ra. This is only partially correct. There were psychic attack components to the death of this body at that space/time. However, the guiding vibratory complex in this event was the will of the instrument. This instrument desired to leave this plane of existence as it did not feel it could be of service.

63.3 Wrote:Questioner: You are saying then that the instrument itself created the kidney problem at that time?

Ra: I am Ra. The instrument’s desire to leave this density lowered the defenses of an already predisposed weak body complex, and an allergic reaction was so intensified as to cause the complications which distorted the body complex towards unviability. The will of the instrument, when it found that there was indeed work to be done in service, was again the guiding factor or complex of vibratory patterns which kept the body complex from surrendering to dissolution of the ties which cause the vitality of life.

60.3 Wrote:Questioner: Can you tell me the best approach for altering, to a more acceptable condition, the distortions that the instrument is experiencing?

Ra: I am Ra. There is some small amount of work which the instrument may do concerning its pre-incarnative decisions regarding service to the Infinite Creator in this experience. However, the decision to open without reservation to the offering of self when service is perceived is such a fundamental choice that it is not open to significant alteration, nor would we wish to interfere with the balancing process which is taking place with this particular entity. The wisdom and compassion being so balanced by this recapitulation of fourth density is helpful to this particular mind/body/spirit complex. It is not an entity much given to quibbling with the purity with which it carries out that which it feels it is best to do. We may say this due to the instrument’s knowledge of its self which is clear upon this point. However, this very discussion may give rise to a slightly less fully unstopped dedication to service in any one working so that the service may be continued over a greater period of your space/time.

60.4 Wrote:Questioner: You are saying, then, that the physical distortions that the instrument experiences are part of a balancing process? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The physical distortions are a result of the instrument’s not accepting fully the limitations placed prior to incarnation upon the activities of the entity once it had begun the working. The distortions caused by this working, which are inevitable given the plan chosen by this entity, are limitation and to a degree, consonant with the amount of vital and physical energy expended, weariness, due to that which is the equivalent in this instrument of many, many hours of harsh physical labor.

This is why we suggested the instrument’s thoughts dwelling upon the possibility of its suggesting to its higher self the possibility of some slight reservation of energy at a working. This instrument at this time is quite open until all resources are quite exhausted. This is well if desired. However, it will, shall we say, shorten the number of workings in what you may call the long run.

Quote:Now... 30 years later... we students of the Ra material are still struggling to understand the message. And we are continuing to be targeted as to perpetuate the confusion. Perhaps by the self-same entities. Considering all the "wild and crazy" ideas that get tossed around this forum... it is really so strange of a proposition?

Quote:And my hat goes off to Icaro for having the gumption to start this thread because it caused me to see that I am not the only one who has been thinking along these lines.

I and Icaro have now documented several examples of potential links between solar activity, negative attack, and confusing quotes from the Ra material, in this thread. I think there is now a substantial enough pile of evidence here to warrant being taken "seriously".

(09-06-2011, 07:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: notice - i didnt say trance channeling. for, this is not trance channeling. the method used in this contact was elaborated in the material. you will see that it is a very peculiar practice. and actually this was the reason for a lot of the troubles and dangers surrounding this contact.

Quote:Don: WOW. I have a couple of questions. Let’s just say I was coming from a point of knowing nothing. You say inner and outer channels. And when you’re talking about inner channels I guess you’re talking about your own inner self, higher self or inner intuition.

Carla: That’s correct. Higher Self is a good way to put it. Now the material that those of Ra [offered] through [me] was in a completely different kind of channeling; in a trance channeling.

Don: And would you recommend that? Because that’s something I hear a lot of people doing is deep trance channeling.

Carla: The difference is that in the trance channeling you don’t really have any more control. You can’t stop it. You’re out of your body and hanging out somewhere else while they use the entire system, the body system, the voice, everything. It was a far different experience for me certainly very wearying on me.

(10-06-2011, 10:23 AM)Artura Wrote: It is my understanding that the social complex, known as Ra, is not attempting to convey hidden information through the act of hinting at negative energy influences interfering with the channel and session participants.

(10-06-2011, 11:13 AM)Scribe Wrote: I think the idea of demon-like evil-bad-scary Orion spirits interfering with the Ra channel, does not lead anywhere helpful...it draws up the wrong archetypes for me.

(10-06-2011, 02:31 PM)Icaro Wrote: But the idea that Ra does not subtly leave indications as to the nature of the group's seeking is in fact wrong. Not only in some cases did they directly give warnings, but when the group was out of alignment with their questioning, at the end of the session Ra would imply that the bible, candle, etc. was out of alignment when they were actually passively referring to the questions themselves.

(10-06-2011, 02:31 PM)Icaro Wrote: But the idea that Ra does not subtly leave indications as to the nature of the group's seeking is in fact wrong. Not only in some cases did they directly give warnings, but when the group was out of alignment with their questioning, at the end of the session Ra would imply that the bible, candle, etc. was out of alignment when they were actually passively referring to the questions themselves.

Quote:The group was under constant surveillance by negative fourth density entities in an attempt to divert the group, and when that didn't work, specific psychic attack was undertaken by a fifth density entity. That's reality, not my opinion, you know?

I have simply tried to illuminate the influences on the channeling process itself. I have never said Orion entities are evil, or bad.

(10-06-2011, 03:40 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:

(10-06-2011, 02:31 PM)Icaro Wrote: But the idea that Ra does not subtly leave indications as to the nature of the group's seeking is in fact wrong. Not only in some cases did they directly give warnings, but when the group was out of alignment with their questioning, at the end of the session Ra would imply that the bible, candle, etc. was out of alignment when they were actually passively referring to the questions themselves.

That's Carla and Jim's theory, and maybe it was Don's, too. But I don't think Ra ever said that when they referred to the alignment of the appurtenances they were actually commenting on the questions themselves.

(10-06-2011, 04:24 PM)Scribe Wrote: If I may be so silly as to comment on issues I know nothing about...if the alignment of the appurtenances actually affects the ability to communicate, and was not simply a metaphor, then logically any issue with the appurtenance would necessarily also be an issue with the communication that the appurtenance was assisting....right? By analogy, if your steering wheel in your car gets out of alignment, you're suddenly going in a different direction than the same hand motions would have directed previously, because the steering wheel is not simply a metaphorical extension of your will directly to the tires...its a necessary mechanical component of the process. So if the candles etc mattered at all, then they have an effect, and any problem with that effect could come through in the ability of the participants to steer the conversation.

(10-06-2011, 03:40 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: That's Carla and Jim's theory, and maybe it was Don's, too. But I don't think Ra ever said that when they referred to the alignment of the appurtenances they were actually commenting on the questions themselves.

(10-06-2011, 04:01 PM)Scribe Wrote: If I were an advanced alien entity like Ra talking through dimensions to little children such as ourselves, this definitely seems like the kind of thing I would do. I mean its positively dripping with cool mystical subtlety, isn't it?

Quote:I know, I was simply expanding upon my perspective on the impressions that the original post brought to mind, trying to make sure that it didn't leave me with a bad feeling towards the negative entities; such impressions, Ra repeatedly says, are not helpful. My post was basically me talking to myself about my reaction to your post, not disagreeing with you

Quote:64.7 Questioner: What about fourth-density experience of Ra? Would that also lie beyond the Law of Confusion?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Let us express a thought. Ra is not elite. To speak of our specific experiences to a group which honors us is to guide to the point of a specific advising. Our work was that of your people, of experiencing the catalyst of joys and sorrows. Our circumstances were somewhat more harmonious. Let it be said that any entity or group may create the most splendid harmony in any outer atmosphere. Ra’s experiences are no more than your own. Yours is the dance at this space/time in third-density harvest.

(01-07-2012, 06:05 PM)zenmaster Wrote: - In 2013, when people retract their herald after figuring out we have to live with each other, regardless of their external savior-event notion, we may see some 'change' (a 'shift' even) after all. Even if it is from a relatively small portion of the population subscribing to the ascension ideas and exuberantly delivering their messages of hope, 99%, transcendence, righteousness, conspiracy, etc. Wait a minute, it will be 2014..15..16...

Aaron Wrote:I am Aaron. Barbara and I were both experiencing the presence of some negative energy. We are comfortable that it is no longer making any effort to intrude and is welcome to listen if it would learn from our teaching. We ask that all present send love to anything that wishes to learn from the deep love expressed in these sessions.