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    Bring4th Bring4th Community Olio Acceptance of the self in relation to the acceptance of others.

    Thread: Acceptance of the self in relation to the acceptance of others.


    Adonai One (Offline)

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    12-15-2013, 12:14 AM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2013, 12:17 AM by Adonai One.)
    Does an entity that fully accepts and loves itself truly have the capacity to reject, restrict and control others? Is such a motive likely to exist?
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    12-15-2013, 12:20 AM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2013, 01:01 AM by xise.)
    Currently, my answer is no. I don't have a solid answer but here any my musings, as I have thought about this from the angle of analyzing negative philosophy:

    I don't believe complete, balanced self-acceptance and self-love is possible without accepting and loving others.

    I think negatives use controlled, conditional self-love and self-acceptance (they love themselves for X reasons, where X is usually related to their abilities, beliefs about themselves and/or power). This is also why when seen negative entities are muddy incolor; though over-bright in red, orange, and yellow, the colors are not fully balanced, they are just have overpowering amounts of energy flowing through them.

    Another example of this is that Ra speaks of in order to completely unblock/balance the yellow ray one should love all in relationship with the self. Clearly, this is not what negatives do, yet they have very powerful, bright, if muddy yellows. I think it's because they don't practice a balanced red/orange/yellow, but focus on certain beliefs that basically jam power through those energy centers.

    Edit: To clarify and link the thought processes together - just as Ra talks about a positive green centered belief in order to fully pass all energy through the yellow, I believe that unconditional self-acceptance which is a part of the orange necessitates unconditional acceptance of the other, because once one practices the unconditional nature of self-acceptance, separation is no longer possible due to the unconditional nature of the self-acceptance; thus in a certain sense I believe the most balanced orange necessarily requires openings in green. And I think Don's questions of Ra did not completely flesh out the topic; I believe to approach the infinitely crystallized being where all centers are 100% open necessarily depends on all centers being open; at a certain point for example I don't think you have a 100% open and balanced heart without a 100% open and balanced blue (and other rays); they are all linked as we approach 100% percentages -it is easy to understand this if the red, the root, is at 90% then it does not allow all the energy to flow through the other centers; however, I believe each center has an effect on the other centers in some way (Of course in the above-example, you might be able to have a 95% heart open and balanced and a 5% opened blue under this theory)...Or at least I speculate that this is true.

    I personally have also been able to overdrive energetically some of my energy centers by focusing on a belief when I was clearly not balanced in that center. Specifically, my orange ray, when it was still pretty much in shambles due to a lack of self-acceptance maybe 16 months back, I could have tons of energy down there when I thought about how fun sex is. I could also force lots of energy into an orange-yellow center area by focusing on how powerful I am. But clearly, there is much more to those centers than those two beliefs.

    In any case, these are tentative musings subject to change. I'm definitely interested in other's thoughts on the matter.
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    12-15-2013, 01:06 AM
    Depends what it deems to be 'itself'.
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    12-15-2013, 01:48 AM (This post was last modified: 12-15-2013, 03:05 AM by reeay.)
    In my experience, acceptance of self usually preceeded by acceptance of others. I am able to accept in others, those aspect of self that I have sufficiently integrated. If I am having issues accepting other self then that is an indication of work to be done. That's why it's important to have relationships as Ra mentioned bc mirror (other-self) provides feedback. Yeah so accepting other-self may be inclusive in the process of full acceptance of self. I look at the degree of integration of that aspect of self that I see mirrored in other-self.

    Added: was just listening to a talk about self-deception in seeking and it's really interesting. Made me think that it's possible to be under the impression that one accepts self yet have capacity to control and reject other self. This is the function of the shadow (the aspect of self that we want to deny or ignore) which has not been made conscious. Perhaps there is some level of acceptance yet bc self is not aware of what is operating very subtly from unconscious mind, there may be tendency to believe self is accepting-self, 'loving self'. Therefore honesty and self-awareness are key.
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    12-15-2013, 04:24 AM
    Is loving other-selves for who they are but choosing not to be in a 'physical' relationship (and not responding to phone calls )considered as accepting?
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    12-15-2013, 09:03 AM
    I believe the entity does have the ability to reject and control the other self. But in the process of consciously choosing to accept and balance those negative aspects with the positive does not do so.

    I think we all know this simple fact but rather than accept it and balance, we tend to over analysis things, based on my experience. Sometimes the most difficult thing to do is to accept how simple it really is. I often laugh when reading great epics from India and China, the first sentence normally tells you everything you need to know yet we keep desiring more knowledge that simply says the same thing in a more complex way.

    Infinite possibility in the one simply reality. The genius will read the Aum at the start of the text and have all knowledge yet the fool will read it to the end and still desire more.
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    12-15-2013, 01:03 PM
    I have the belief in my life that I won't be happy until I am in a physical relationship. This belief is controlling my life. Yet I refuse to control others (at least consciously I don't). My life is in shambles and I can't accept help from others because I don't honestly care about anything except this one thing. Since I haven't been able to do anything about it yet I simply focus on trying to help others, but it's getting harder because I'm getting to the point where I just want to sit in my room and be depressed.

    On the other hand, I feel like I have the potential to accomplish anything I desire in life. I've been so honest with everyone in my life that I've found that just by networking and mirroring other people you can get pretty much anything you desire.
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    12-15-2013, 01:07 PM
    I never do this really, but..

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