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    Thread: Blue Sky on Mars


    Ashim (Offline)

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    03-17-2013, 08:41 AM (This post was last modified: 03-17-2013, 09:06 AM by Ashim.)
    Just found this on a german MSM news site (focus.de)
    The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
    Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
    Very interesting!

    http://www.focus.de/wissen/diverses/raum...41657.html

    [Image: 1363523232_jpeg-1484E00056C1D34F-2013031..._630xA.jpg]

    This is supposed to be the original data, or how we would see the scene before white balancing.

    Still blue-ish.

    http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/73441...46-710.jpg

    Now compare to this pathfinder image taken at noon.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...A01546.jpg

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    03-17-2013, 12:11 PM
    (03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
    Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
    Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.

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    03-17-2013, 02:51 PM (This post was last modified: 03-17-2013, 03:31 PM by Ashim.)
    (03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
    Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
    Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
    ......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.

    How come NASA were talking about expecting blue skies at the start of the pathfinder mission?

    From their own press release, not my idea and not a crummy youtube video or internet 'fantasy'.

    "If dust diffuses to the landing site, the sky could turn out to be pink like that seen by Viking," says Philip James of the University of Toledo.
    "Otherwise, Pathfinder will likely show blue sky with bright clouds."

    The source.
    ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/pressrel/1997/97-148.txt

    Edit to add this screenshot of the control center. Take a look a the monitor displaying the landscape (left in picture).
    Did they colour correct that too? Tongue

    [Image: curiosity-press-video1.jpg]

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    03-17-2013, 08:04 PM
    (03-17-2013, 02:51 PM)Ashim Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
    Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
    Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
    ......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.
    That there is not enough molecular absorption on Mars to render the surface "red"? Have fun with your fantasies.

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    Ashim (Offline)

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    03-18-2013, 01:34 AM
    (03-17-2013, 08:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 02:51 PM)Ashim Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
    Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
    Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
    ......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.
    That there is not enough molecular absorption on Mars to render the surface "red"? Have fun with your fantasies.

    Again zen why did NASA say that they were expecting blue skies in this official press release?
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    ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/pressrel/1997/97-148.txt

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    03-18-2013, 08:29 PM
    (03-18-2013, 01:34 AM)Ashim Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 08:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 02:51 PM)Ashim Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
    Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
    Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
    ......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.
    That there is not enough molecular absorption on Mars to render the surface "red"? Have fun with your fantasies.

    Again zen why did NASA say that they were expecting blue skies in this official press release?
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    ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/pressrel/1997/97-148.txt
    Well, an astronomer by the name of professor Philip James was quoted as saying that. We can simply ask him directly, if he is still around (cue dramatic music, suggesting conspiracy).

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    03-19-2013, 01:37 AM (This post was last modified: 03-19-2013, 01:38 AM by Ashim.)
    Quote: Well, an astronomer by the name of professor Philip James was quoted as saying that. We can simply ask him directly, if he is still around (cue dramatic music, suggesting conspiracy).

    No need for the music zen.
    I just asked him and will provide the response if he is forthcoming.
    His e-mail at the university of Toledo:
    pbj@physics.utoledo.edu

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    03-19-2013, 01:59 AM
    Quote:If the Martian atmosphere were free of dust, the daytime sky would appear blue, because of Rayleigh scattering by the molecules (primarily carbon dioxide) that make up the atmosphere. Because the atmosphere is thinner than earth’s atmosphere, the Martian sky would be a darker blue than ours, much as the sky on earth appears at high altitudes with a similar density of air molecules. It is possible (though unlikely) that future missions to Mars will find a different sky color.

    http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html

    Didn't NASA have some mission to Mars in the 70s? They would probably have known how the coloring of the sky worked, no?

    http://youtu.be/plWnm7UpsXk

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    03-19-2013, 03:37 AM
    It appears that the original viking images from the 70's were manipulated.
    Could this have been to hide obvious signs of biological life on the martian surface?
    http://rense.com/general9/color.htm

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    03-19-2013, 08:44 AM
    (03-19-2013, 01:37 AM)Ashim Wrote: His e-mail at the university of Toledo:
    pbj@physics.utoledo.edu
    Already tried that contact address and don't think it's functional. Not surprising, considering the spam bots using it as well. If he got his PhD nearly 45 years ago, he's been retired and possibly moved on to other interests.

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    03-19-2013, 01:29 PM
    (03-19-2013, 08:44 AM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (03-19-2013, 01:37 AM)Ashim Wrote: His e-mail at the university of Toledo:
    pbj@physics.utoledo.edu
    Already tried that contact address and don't think it's functional. Not surprising, considering the spam bots using it as well. If he got his PhD nearly 45 years ago, he's been retired and possibly moved on to other interests.
    Maybe he's on Mars working for Solar Warden.

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