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    04-28-2012, 11:50 AM (This post was last modified: 04-28-2012, 11:51 AM by Wyze89.)
    When I experienced an energy on the top of my head that wrapped around like a halo. Was this intelligent energy being sent to me? It felt as if I was being...promoted? I don't know, hard to describe random catalysts. Thoughts?
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    04-28-2012, 12:00 PM (This post was last modified: 04-28-2012, 12:00 PM by Lulu.)
    what were you reading in the bible?

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    04-28-2012, 08:20 PM
    I'm with Lulu, wondering what you were reading in the Bible? I think that anything on this side of the veil has the potential to become a random catalyst. It all depends upon how you interpret the information, if you let it make that connection between you and intelligent energy.
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    (04-28-2012, 08:20 PM)Ruth Wrote: I'm with Lulu, wondering what you were reading in the Bible? I think that anything on this side of the veil has the potential to become a random catalyst. It all depends upon how you interpret the information, if you let it make that connection between you and intelligent energy.

    Not to be random or anything, but that makes me so wanna see what my magic power will be! I'm thinking...... Thats a magic power!
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    04-29-2012, 01:11 AM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2012, 01:15 AM by Lulu.)
    to me... most of the bible would bring me NOT into uplifting places, but quite the opposite and into much lower states of vibrational being.
    ...but I guess for some people it could be uplifting, depends on "where we are" and what we are willing or not willing to look upon.

    Annalise Michael or Emily Rose, a Very lovely and beautiful young woman, was "suddenly inspired" to read many chapters in the bible. Upon doing this she then became possessed by extremely destructive entities. She eventually died of causes of the possession.

    Key words to note are "and THEN" meaning she as she "read the many chapters" it changed her very vibrations and frequency and Then she was accessible to certain entities.

    As the real story goes this was a plan by what we could refer to as the spirit world illuminati, or "catholic spirits" who then easily influenced nearly all the followers into even more fear and control at that time. (The story portrayed that you find on the internet, is not entirely true...fyi).

    So... what exactly were you reading? And did it bring you UP or did it make you feel DOWN or what?

    Most of us don't like to admit HOW influenceable we are. But at the same time we are readily admitting "we are all one".

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    04-29-2012, 07:38 AM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2012, 07:27 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (04-28-2012, 09:18 PM)Cyan Wrote: Not to be random or anything, but that makes me so wanna see what my magic power will be! I'm thinking...... Thats a magic power!

    With great power comes great responsibility.

    It's pretty easy to manage. Just feel good and stay in balance of light and love.

    When I passed the threshold of 3D to 4D, I felt an intense unconditional love that made me cry deeply. Because of my polarity I was able to pass. But if one feels unworthy, they might have trouble.

    But power of creation is freaking amazing.
    You don't have to really think about what you want.
    You just go by what you like, and similar vibrations
    will be attracted to you. So what you create
    keeps getting better and better.

    When you begin to learn about All That Is, you realize ANYTHING is possible.

    You can create music of your favorite artists that gets better and better for one. It's interesting too when the body begins transforming. Right now it's just the soft part of my nose, it's all plyable now with little physical sensation in it.
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    04-29-2012, 11:47 AM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2012, 11:48 AM by Ashim.)
    Quote:But power of creation is freaking amazing.
    You don't have to really think about what you want.
    You just go by what you like, and similar vibrations
    will be attracted to you. So what you create
    keeps getting better and better.

    Gemini Wolf that furry universe of yours gets a stroke from me.
    To quote a friend, "where we are going you don't need thoughts"

    As you said it's all about attraction - or repulsion, depending on what side of the camp fire you occupy.

    They should have inserted your post in the 'bible'. Tongue

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    04-29-2012, 11:50 AM
    Gemini, reading "When I passed the threshold of 3D to 4D, I felt an intense unconditional love that made me cry deeply."

    I had one of those moments a few months ago. I was looking at myself in the mirror for a while, then suddenly I felt such huge compassion for the creature in the mirror. I couldn't help myself from crying. I still don't know why this happened.
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    04-29-2012, 07:29 PM (This post was last modified: 04-29-2012, 07:49 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    I had to stop in my seeking. I need to get back on my meds because I started getting a stream of negativity, and I couldn't handle it. I don't know if it's a negative greeting or not, but I'm going to close down my upper chakras and probably stop in my mystical work. I found out for the 3rd time it's not for me. This time was a stern warning that it's not for me.

    Today this 4th density thing my mind was telling me negative things. At times I felt love and harmony, and then I honestly felt like I was descending into hell and that God had judged me for using his name in vain. My mind told me that the unconditional love I felt when I crossed 4th was God's judgment of me. So I'm off this work for good. Too much negative catalyst in 4th, so I'm coming back down. There was negative catalyst like friends around me arguing and talking about things that got to me. I couldn't handle 4D catalyst. Way too much irony as well.

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    04-29-2012, 09:28 PM
    g-wolf, I felt judged the same way by (a) God even though my belief were nill of gods and such at the time. I was also impressed upon that my form of Love was not true. That "god" seems to be more a god of duty and compromise. Sometimes I wonder if the masculine version of Love is very much based on duty. --still sorting that one out, don't hold me to that statement.
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    04-30-2012, 01:37 AM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 01:41 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Yeah Lulu, the same "god" I experienced was telling me how my shifting realities caused the 3D world within me to basically be turned upside down because it violated everyone's free will. That's the same thing that happened before. For me, it was fear of violating free will.

    And then my solar plexus chakra felt very dense, and I was given memory that Ra said how negatives have unusally dense solar plexuses. I was definitely creating my reality. I had thought that things were just going to get worse.

    But I caught myself twice this time, and am resuming the closing of my indigo ray.


    So shifting reality so that the radio plays music that you like, doesn't violate anyone's free will does it? I did that and suddenly started having much better music on the radio. That was during the brief heaven-on-earth feeling when I opened up, before it all went downhill.

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    04-30-2012, 02:32 AM
    (04-30-2012, 01:37 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Yeah Lulu, the same "god" I experienced was telling me how my shifting realities caused the 3D world within me to basically be turned upside down because it violated everyone's free will. That's the same thing that happened before. For me, it was fear of violating free will.

    And then my solar plexus chakra felt very dense, and I was given memory that Ra said how negatives have unusally dense solar plexuses. I was definitely creating my reality. I had thought that things were just going to get worse.

    But I caught myself twice this time, and am resuming the closing of my indigo ray.


    So shifting reality so that the radio plays music that you like, doesn't violate anyone's free will does it? I did that and suddenly started having much better music on the radio. That was during the brief heaven-on-earth feeling when I opened up, before it all went downhill.

    Gemini, I don't think you've been doing anything wrong, because you weren't trying to control anyone. By just focusing on creating your own reality, the UniVerse will rearrange itself to accommodate you, including other-selves who are choosing the same reality you are.

    In other words, if you desire to create what seems to be 'better' music, then other-selves who also desire to create better music, will be attracted to you, and you will both coexist in the same reality. You didn't control them or force them to do your bidding! Rather, you just attracted those who resonate with the reality you are choosing.

    My suggestion is to relax and not get caught up in fear. Focus on being loving and joyful, as you have already been doing, and you can't go wrong.


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    04-30-2012, 10:04 AM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 10:23 AM by Patrick.)
    (04-28-2012, 11:50 AM)Wyze89 Wrote: When I experienced an energy on the top of my head that wrapped around like a halo. Was this intelligent energy being sent to me? It felt as if I was being...promoted? I don't know, hard to describe random catalysts. Thoughts?

    You are connecting to Intelligent Infinity. Do you also feel pressure on the forehead ?
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    04-30-2012, 10:20 AM
    (04-30-2012, 01:37 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Yeah Lulu, the same "god" I experienced was telling me how my shifting realities caused the 3D world within me to basically be turned upside down because it violated everyone's free will. That's the same thing that happened before. For me, it was fear of violating free will.

    And then my solar plexus chakra felt very dense, and I was given memory that Ra said how negatives have unusally dense solar plexuses. I was definitely creating my reality. I had thought that things were just going to get worse.

    But I caught myself twice this time, and am resuming the closing of my indigo ray.


    So shifting reality so that the radio plays music that you like, doesn't violate anyone's free will does it? I did that and suddenly started having much better music on the radio. That was during the brief heaven-on-earth feeling when I opened up, before it all went downhill.

    oh, g-wolf, that sort of turns my stomach reading about it as it brings me back to my experiences similar. Your so fortunate to have information and support on this forum.

    I was upside down as well. And I could SEE myself in the spirit-world/astral realms ALWAYS, for some time, floating upside-down. It was disturbing. I was also shamed beyond belief. At one point I was given a "cleansing" ball that was inserted into me, for 24 hours I felt lower then the lowest of castes and as if I did not have the "god-given-right" to even Step my FEET upon this earth. It was as if I had no rights at all.

    In my innocence and without information or support I was lost, yet also knew it was created by an entity not myself and was not true. The reason I was accessible is because at same time I was hooked into believing my "soulmate" was working with me so that I would "heal" and we could be together, because of that I would not resist as quickly, eventually I would lash out and recover --temporarily.

    Closing down your indigo is exactly what he wants you to do. This entity does think he owns you, and that he owns humans. He is totally about Control and in doing so --he has control over you. He is not about real love, which is allowing each his own path. His ideas of free-will are about conforming and his ideas about love are about following rules. He is projecting his own issues on us. Do you see how he is stepping on your free-will?

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    04-30-2012, 10:23 AM
    Gemini, your shadow self is coming to the surface. If you choose to process the fear and catalysts, it will subside and transmute into positivity with time. If you choose to stop this process, then you simply postpone this work.
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    04-30-2012, 10:28 AM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 10:28 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    Amazing amazing advice Lulu and Valtor. I appreciate you both so much.

    I am at a point now where the almost continuous fear I first felt in 4D is now embued more with love so it's not nearly so cutting. As we take in the love, when we come across something within us that holds a lot of fear, the energy will channel into our solar plexus (the 3D universe within us), healing that part of ourselves. Changes will happen in 3D and be experienced by us in 4D.

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    04-30-2012, 10:32 AM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 11:06 AM by Lulu.)
    g-wolf wrote: "For me, it was fear of violating free will."

    This is the HOOK he has got you on, where you doubt. If you go to this youtube channel and watch some of the videos you will find his own spoke-person here, and you can understand more about the ideas twisted of free-will. But don't be fooled into staying in guilt about Free-Will. Judging from what I have heard from you, he is against you because of your free attitude of really Living and Being love, which includes ideas of supporting and accepting others who are on their own paths. http://www.youtube.com/user/WizardShak

    His spokes-person has very valuable information to offer because he shows how "god" the a-hole entity thinks and works (he would be on international trial at the Hague right now if he were accessible). Of course you will have to use a lot of discernment to see past the b-s. He uses much truth to pull people in and then there is the destructive parts covered. Also much of the information about the spirit-worlds and spirits is extremely valuable, however twisted also. I followed the group for awhile and the teachings lead his followers right in to the same judgements and behaviors of Old.
    G-wolf please consider not be too "hooked" into the idea of some kind of transcendence or graduation into 4D. That is a tool that is being used to toy with humans as well, just like the fads of nirvana, samadi, all forms of the ideas of "transcendence". When we need those ideas or things to happen in order to feel "worthy" we are in danger of being able to be messed-with. Many are then led to reach those high states but never move on emotionally, stuck again in yet another realm.

    Real power is to have wisdom and so much self-love you that whatever your choices are naturally benefit all. When you break up with a mate, if they are hurt --did you tread on their free-will?? There is no way to really gage the truth of the idea of free-will, because this idea of itself is in Lower dimensions or the a-hole gods realm.

    Rules don't need to be made if you are in states of being and living true Love. When one is Love they are empowered, expressive and whole, accepting of all of their desires and emotions and in doing so, accept others. They are not acting from what another being determines is the idea of free-will or right.

    It's true that in 3D we are treading on what he deems is free-will but so is the lion when it chases the deer for dinner. From a broader perspective, the deer is pleased to participate in the game of life and it eats plants which are also treading on free-will of the plant. If Mr. a-hole god wants to stop life then he could also let us blow ourselves up, the very thing he threatens us about ironically. He is constantly infringing on the free-will of humans. If he wants to create another planet/sphere with wishy-washy people that need him to make decisions then those who want the lions to lay with lambs can continue to follow him into "heaven" or the realm of no life, no pain, therefore no suffering, therefore...no life therefore his idea of free-will.

    Lulu


    (04-30-2012, 10:04 AM)Valtor Wrote:
    (04-28-2012, 11:50 AM)Wyze89 Wrote: When I experienced an energy on the top of my head that wrapped around like a halo. Was this intelligent energy being sent to me? It felt as if I was being...promoted? I don't know, hard to describe random catalysts. Thoughts?

    You are connecting to Intelligent Infinity. Do you also feel pressure on the forehead ?

    One of the gut feelings I had was that as my vibration raised I became a target for the dark realms. When I am feeling sorry for myself, it feels like I was being punished for my Light and the goal was to destroy my Light.

    It could be that g-wolf is experiencing a sort of tug-of-war for her soul now. xo g-wolf Heart
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    04-30-2012, 11:29 AM
    Lulu, your insight is amazing. You're a mirror into myself.

    When you said "G-wolf please consider not be too "hooked" into the idea of some kind of transcendence or graduation into 4D" it hit home. I now know that I am where I am, and whether it is 3D or 4D it doesn't matter.

    g-wolf, that's a cool name. Thanks. Also, I'm a guy, but appreciate the thoughts Smile

    *hugs*

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    04-30-2012, 11:34 AM
    (04-30-2012, 11:29 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: g-wolf, that's a cool name. Thanks. Also, I'm a guy, but appreciate the thoughts Smile

    *hugs*
    HAHA!! I'm sorry....! and g-wolf is super awesome name for a guy if you don't mind the "expectations" perhaps of being able to find a g-spot without any trouble. Blush

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    04-30-2012, 11:47 AM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 11:49 AM by AnthroHeart.)
    g is apt because I'm gay after all.
    I'm not a flaming gay though.
    Someone compared me to David Bowie once.
    I'm not sure if he's gay, but seems both masculilne and feminine.

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    04-30-2012, 12:21 PM
    (04-30-2012, 11:47 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: g is apt because I'm gay after all.
    I'm not a flaming gay though.
    Someone compared me to David Bowie once.
    I'm not sure if he's gay, but seems both masculilne and feminine.

    ahhh well see, now you know where my mind goes. LOL.

    david bowie!? --and your not the same guy as the profile Jim Kent, aka d. bowie singer... ;-)


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    04-30-2012, 04:36 PM (This post was last modified: 04-30-2012, 05:07 PM by Wyze89.)
    Sorry for taking so long to respond, guys! I was reading verses from psalms and proverbs. I didn't feel pressure on my forehead, but when I was reading I would feel a small electric-like tingling sensation in between my eyebrows. I remember feeling the halo most when I was reading verses on wisdom. I feel I love a good amount, but to the point of foolishness. I think thats why I felt that sensation, like God was trying to tell me to use more wisdom in life to balance myself.
    I also felt a tingling sensation in my chest. There was a little pain, but it was a .5 on 1 to 10 lol. A sign of my heart chakra spinning at a faster rate than normal, in my opinion.
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    04-30-2012, 06:44 PM
    Yes, congratulations you are opening the portal to Intelligent Infinity right from within veiled 3d. That is quite an achievement!

    You may be balancing too much compassion with wisdom. In my case, I came here to balance too much wisdom with compassion and I have the same sensations.
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    04-30-2012, 08:09 PM
    Wow, I feel honored to feel that I'm helping the earth to progress better to 4D.

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    04-30-2012, 08:57 PM
    you guys crack me up. I trust Aliester Crowley more than the idea that the tingley sensation etc. is a "good" thing. I wanted to think that too "I'm important". But I think it's manipulation...



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    (04-30-2012, 08:57 PM)Lulu Wrote: But I think it's manipulation...
    How much of what you think is "you" thinking?BigSmile

    Thoughts are not always yours. If you have enough fear or doubt, that is a wide open door for manipulation. The same goes for belief.

    A sense of wonder would be more appropriate..

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    (05-01-2012, 04:26 PM)Lulu Wrote: Hi Pickle,
    People always like to use those types of responses when they don't like what somebody else wrote. It's all an illusion is another favorite. Being human is to think, it's how we process and come to understand anything, it's part of our package. Your favorite "heaven" will be the sphere and dimension where they all play drums all day and stay in jiving denial as bliss. Thats all fine too, it's just not my personal seeking nor style.

    A sense of wonder is all great, just like when your a child and you think "what a nice man, he offered me candy and a ride in a cool van" (see south park, lol) ;-) Next time... because of the experiences, the sense of wonder is no longer there, because now one knows the reality of the situation and can therefore avoid it.

    That sort of attitude reminds of the (one) rainbow gathering I attended. I knew within a few hours that I didn't want to be part of it. They all sat in a sense of wonder, until someone realized they were hungry. Someone got a bus running and some of them went to the grocery store and stole $400 worth of food to feed everyone, then they all ate, then they all sat around arguing loudly about if that was right or not. Then they sat in a sense of wonder and played drums again. ...it's childlike and fine when we are children, it's just not my thing now. ;-)

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    (04-30-2012, 12:21 PM)Lulu Wrote:
    (04-30-2012, 11:47 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: g is apt because I'm gay after all.
    I'm not a flaming gay though.
    Someone compared me to David Bowie once.
    I'm not sure if he's gay, but seems both masculilne and feminine.

    ahhh well see, now you know where my mind goes. LOL.

    david bowie!? --and your not the same guy as the profile Jim Kent, aka d. bowie singer... ;-)

    WTF! Tongue
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    05-01-2012, 07:59 PM
    (04-30-2012, 08:57 PM)Lulu Wrote: you guys crack me up. I trust Aliester Crowley more than the idea that the tingley sensation etc. is a "good" thing. I wanted to think that too "I'm important". But I think it's manipulation...

    So here Lulu proposes a fear-based explanation. While I'm proposing a love-based explanation.

    We are in 3d to make this sort of choice. Wyze89 now have a choice. Smile
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    05-01-2012, 08:27 PM
    apologies for "scaring" you. ;-) I understand why you would make the assumption that I am not choosing to see it as a loving-being sending me tingles to tell me how valuable me and my third-eye is (or whatever it is that you think it is that is "positive").

    I am not trying to talk any one in or out of anything. I seek confirmations on what are my impressions and theories. I'd love it if someone could cause me to believe something more "positive" that'd be just fantastic.


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