The Google UFO logo.

[Ali Quadir]

You probably already saw it, google has picked a logo with a ufo in it apparently kidnapping an 'o'...

I just wanted to draw your attention to the fact that if you wondered why this is then you're not alone, it's a bit of a mystery why google picked this logo and people on the net are speculating...

The thing that drives most people mad is that usually on mouse over you get a tool tip with an explanation. For example "Tesla's birthday".. But on this one there is no tool tip at all...

It probably was a "slow logo day" and they had this one in store. But the amount of response is interesting The fact that there is so much talk about disclosure being only months away certainly puts us in a conspirative mood. "Would google's secret intent be to gauge the response of the people on account of the 'powers that be'?" Or "Did the google CEO decide it was time for a practical joke?"

[Lorna]

wow that's really interesting!
quite coincidental actually - i noticed a reference to project bluebeam on that nassim haramein video so was reading about that, and then stumbled across a hub about bluebeam by bard of ely, whose username i recognised, which brought me back here and then to your post about google

[Ali Quadir]

It's a small world isn't it?
And bluebeam is certainly a thing to keep in mind when it comes to ufos suddenly making contact. It's one of the bluebeams scenarios if I remember correctly.

[Lorna]

yeah that's what i was reading about, surprised i hadn't heard of bluebeam before
i see the google mystery has now been solved http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/go...olved.html

[Lavazza]

The fact that there is so much talk about disclosure being only months away certainly puts us in a conspirative mood.

Greetings Ali,

I hadn't heard that there was such talk of disclosure. Can you point me in the right direction to read more on this?

Incidentally, one found out on Friday that my favorite research scientist is interested in UFOs also. Big synchronicity for me. You can read an article he wrote on the topic here: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Web...aOfUFO.pdf

[Ali Quadir]

Well, Edgar Mitchell the astronaut has begun to be very vocal about the reality of aliens. He's always done that to an extent but he's pushing much more these days. Steven Greer, the UFO and black agencies expert and listening ear to thousands of whistle blowers. Some really big names are among them. He claims an extraordinary amount of things. For one that he's in contact with Majestic, the primary force in the black ops group who were responsible for keeping this a secret. He claims only 30% of them are opposed to disclosure now. He claims he has briefed the Obama government. And is assisting a european G7 country to initiate peaceful and open contact with the visitors. Also he claims to be in contact with E.T.'s and regularly takes people on expeditions to "Vector in UFO's" which basically means telepathically creating a beacon and asking them to show up with apparently big successes. His philosophy is that he's going to initiate first contact between earth and E.T.'s with or without government assistance and initiate 5 millenia of peace and growth. I believe he's hoping for the assistance. Since he's very well informed about the secret government technology. I hope he will be able to see the difference.

Aside from this: Webbot, an expert web analysis program. Is reporting an unusual amount of chatter about disclosure. In the past these increases have always preceded events related to the chatter with a good deal of accuracy.

The Obama administration was pushed from the start by different ufo lobby groups. And his chief advisor has apparently been a strong protagonist for disclosure in the past.

This isn't a statement by a woman in australia. A few different vectors seem to push in the direction of disclosure. I just named the few I think are strongest. Which understandably causes a lot of speculation.. Even if disclosure happens we should still be careful because of the Bluebook project. Which is apparently a scenario where the shadow governments will stage an interstellar war using earth made technology that will not be distinguishable from real E.T.'s by laymen.

And then google put the logo in for the weekend. I believe it's back to normal now. Oh and there is a mystery solved article. Which sounds very plausible and it's typically google to refer to a geek meme. So we can fortunately push the conspiracy theories to the dust bin for now.

Still the vectors continue to point I haven't been wrong often so far about these big predictions. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this one has me in doubt

My personal source told me we would not meet until 2014 partly due to the quarantine. So I'm extrapolating that this disclosure will not immediately be followed by massive contacts there will be some years to get used to the idea and stabilize first. Which sounds about logical. If the contact is true I'd expect massive speculation on the Internet about the hostile intent of the aliens. Lots of panic stories. And if it's the blue book scenario we'll probably see something that looks like massive first contact of the hostile kind much sooner. Still Bluebook is a psy operation. Just being critical and aware gives us a good chance to look though it.

This is just speculation of course we have yet to see a move by the governments involved that supports this line of thought.

[Monica]

Incidentally, one found out on Friday that my favorite research scientist is interested in UFOs also. Big synchronicity for me. You can read an article he wrote on the topic here: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Web...aOfUFO.pdf

That's a really well-written and 'balanced' article, which might satisfy even the most confirmed skeptics.

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This is just speculation of course we have yet to see a move by the governments involved that supports this line of thought.

Maybe this is the real reason there is such a push for a one world government (in which case those who are against it, are misinterpreting its 'agenda'). I reject the notion that the 'power elite' is trying to physically control everyone; that's just not practical (though we know that STS entities do seek control, but I mean logistically, I don't find physical control to be their aim...why should they when they can already control those who wish to be controlled?). But if they have a military mindset, they might be interpreting the UFO phenomena as something to be really concerned about and preparing for. Just speculation...

Unless of course, ala X-Files, the governments are already in contact with them? But don't we already know from the Law of One that contacting governments is not the style of ET's? Not the positive ET's, anyway. But what about the negatives?

I don't really see disclosure happening any time soon, but then, a lot could happen in the next couple of years! I could see it being a very positive thing or a very negative thing. Depends on how they do it. I suspect that there is a struggle going on right now amongst the powers that be, as to how this disclosure will be presented, if at all.

[Ali Quadir]

Incidentally, one found out on Friday that my favorite research scientist is interested in UFOs also. Big synchronicity for me. You can read an article he wrote on the topic here: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Web...aOfUFO.pdf

That's a really well-written and 'balanced' article, which might satisfy even the most confirmed skeptics.

I love your optimism I doubt the most confirmed skeptics will want to have anything to do with balanced or well written I still love it by the way.

This is just speculation of course we have yet to see a move by the governments involved that supports this line of thought.

Maybe this is the real reason there is such a push for a one world government (in which case those who are against it, are misinterpreting its 'agenda'). I reject the notion that the 'power elite' is trying to physically control everyone; that's just not practical (though we know that STS entities do seek control, but I mean logistically, I don't find physical control to be their aim...why should they when they can already control those who wish to be controlled?). But if they have a military mindset, they might be interpreting the UFO phenomena as something to be really concerned about and preparing for. Just speculation...

Well that military mind was apparently the case in the early days. But logically: If it travels lightyears in seconds, if it can materialize in thin air, if it has the power to disable your nukes from orbit. And if it's hostile... Shouldn't we be in some advanced stage of death by now?

Unless of course: the good aliens put up a blockade to protect us. In which case also we cannot expect to meet the negative guys on first contact.

The third case, bluebook: pretending that real aliens are landing is a fully internal affair. Aliens may intervene, or they may not.

Unless of course, ala X-Files, the governments are already in contact with them? But don't we already know from the Law of One that contacting governments is not the style of ET's? Not the positive ET's, anyway. But what about the negatives?

This is going to go far out, even for conspiracy nuts... But...

What if there are no negative aliens? What if there is bluebook?

I don't really see disclosure happening any time soon, but then, a lot could happen in the next couple of years! I could see it being a very positive thing or a very negative thing. Depends on how they do it. I suspect that there is a struggle going on right now amongst the powers that be, as to how this disclosure will be presented, if at all.

At a certain point it becomes smarter to evacuate your position than to try to defend it until the bitter end. I'm not sure if this point is achieved. But there's a good chance they will try to negotiate some personal immunity for those involved in the projects. A lot of their structures are falling apart.

[Monica]

I love your optimism I doubt the most confirmed skeptics will want to have anything to do with balanced or well written

Sadly, so true.

Well that military mind was apparently the case in the early days. But logically: If it travels lightyears in seconds, if it can materialize in thin air, if it has the power to disable your nukes from orbit. And if it's hostile... Shouldn't we be in some advanced stage of death by now?

Heh, good point! They seem to miss that.

Unless of course: the good aliens put up a blockade to protect us. In which case also we cannot expect to meet the negative guys on first contact.

What an interesting idea! Seems I've heard that somewhere before...

The third case, bluebook: pretending that real aliens are landing is a fully internal affair. Aliens may intervene, or they may not.

Is it bluebook or bluebeam? Bluebook was the investigation a few decades ago...has it been revived, or is it now called bluebeam? Does bluebeam refer to the theory that they will stage a mock alien attack? I need to get my terminology right. I need to get educated. I'll look it up before I say too much more in this discussion.

What if there are no negative aliens?

Well, we know from the Law of One that there are indeed negative aliens. But they have been prohibited from doing much, by the quarantine.

What if there is bluebook?

Do you mean what if the power elite stages a mock alien attack?

At a certain point it becomes smarter to evacuate your position than to try to defend it until the bitter end. I'm not sure if this point is achieved. But there's a good chance they will try to negotiate some personal immunity for those involved in the projects. A lot of their structures are falling apart.

You mean the power elite? Seems they're already doing that...trying to position themselves above the fray. I can think of one infamous former 'president' (oops, officially, vp) who is doing that very thing...

Yeah, their structures are indeed falling apart.

On a positive note, I see this as a good thing. I find it very exciting! For the past couple of decades, I sometimes wondered if anything really would happen, and now I look around and think, Something's going down! It really is happening! This planet is changing!

I'm really grateful to Ra/Q'uo for the inside scoop they've given us on the negative entities (whether alien or human, doesn't really matter). We know they're in their last throes. The idea of a widespread alien attack is preposterous, in light of what we know from the Law of One. This knowing will help us during the times of uncertainty, if they really do try to pull off such a stunt.

[Ali Quadir]

I love your optimism I doubt the most confirmed skeptics will want to have anything to do with balanced or well written

Sadly, so true.

It's the law of free will isn't it ? Every positive has a negative hidden somewhere and versa vice.

The third case, bluebook: pretending that real aliens are landing is a fully internal affair. Aliens may intervene, or they may not.

Is it bluebook or bluebeam? Bluebook was the investigation a few decades ago...has it been revived, or is it now called bluebeam? Does bluebeam refer to the theory that they will stage a mock alien attack? I need to get my terminology right. I need to get educated. I'll look it up before I say too much more in this discussion.

I'm sorry we should interrogate Lorna about this, she recently saw a documentary on the subject, I dig in very long term memory and that's not always working so well. It's Bluebeam most likely if you think so. I'm very likely to mix these names up.

What if there are no negative aliens?

Well, we know from the Law of One that there are indeed negative aliens. But they have been prohibited from doing much, by the quarantine.

What if there is bluebook?

Do you mean what if the power elite stages a mock alien attack?

That's what I mean. This Greer guy says there is absolutely no indication of aliens with hostile intent in the evidence he found. Which is of course explained by the quarantine. His evidence extends to the earth in a short period of time all the while the quarantine was supposedly active. So his words can be correct and still not the whole truth.

But locally, are we strong enough to see negative aliens and conclude bluebeam?

On a positive note, I see this as a good thing. I find it very exciting! For the past couple of decades, I sometimes wondered if anything really would happen, and now I look around and think, Something's going down! It really is happening! This planet is changing!

I'm really grateful to Ra/Q'uo for the inside scoop they've given us on the negative entities (whether alien or human, doesn't really matter). We know they're in their last throes. The idea of a widespread alien attack is preposterous, in light of what we know from the Law of One. This knowing will help us during the times of uncertainty, if they really do try to pull off such a stunt.

I hope so.. But today I can't really talk to my colleagues because, well they don't believe in aliens. Tomorrow I may not be able to talk to them because, well they don't believe in friendly aliens. The tune changes but the monotony remains

[Lorna]

bluebeam info
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociop...beam01.htm

[Lavazza]

Another source I listen to has predicted Dec 2011 for a ET contact date. In fact he's predicted that steadily since about 1990. We'll see!

[Ali Quadir]

Is it a public source Lavazza? I'm always interested in hearing what they have to say

A contact date is not necessarily a big thing. First contact was over 50 years ago according to most educated sources.

[Monica]

A contact date is not necessarily a big thing. First contact was over 50 years ago according to most educated sources.

Eh, good point. I think they are implying a public contact. I tend to not take very seriously predictions with dates. That's only one possibility in the possiblity/probability vortex.

[Lavazza]

Is it a public source Lavazza? I'm always interested in hearing what they have to say

It is a public source, but it's not well circulated since the material is not published on the internet. The channel is Chris Powell out of Kansas City, and he's been channeling a dis-incarnate American Indian by the name of Dagendaweda for roughly 20 years. He channels in trance. The material is brought forth during events hosted by PSI (Pyschic studies institute) which operates from the same city.

The bulk of his material is transient information and spiritual commentary as it relates. My in-laws go to these events and sign up to receive transcripts (done by a volunteer on a typewriter- heh), else I would not have been privy to any of it.

Last month I got the urge to review all of my transcripts from the last ten years and fact check all the information given. So far it has come out to roughly 50% correct, 50% not-correct, and the rest either unverifiable or were predicted for a time not come yet. In fact, for those interested, you can see my spreadsheet here: http://tiny.cc/0nHAx If you look at the top right corner you'll see a percentage for correct predictions and correct dates. I haven't yet thought up a way to calculate weight to a prediction, e.g. if it is predicted multiple times or of emphasis is placed on the information. So far no predictions that have been made multiple times have been off.

By the way, Ali, thank you for your lengthy first response to my request for more info.

Eh, good point. I think they are implying a public contact. I tend to not take very seriously predictions with dates. That's only one possibility in the possiblity/probability vortex.

I agree it is unwise to take them too seriously. I suppose it's more for entertainment than anything else. It sure is exciting when predictions come true! Even more exciting when it relates to something big like public ET appearances, etc. Oh and yes- I did mean to say the 2011 date is for mass public exposure, not just secret meetings.

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By the way Ali, do you still read Blossom's channeling? I've been following them and finding much resonance, still. Despite the no-show prediction I deem them to be of pure intent. And the similarities between 'The Federation of Light' and 'The Confederation of Planets' seems a bit too close to overlook.

And Monica, might I ask your guidance here? I am aware that we are not to discuss other channeled material on this forum (other than L/L material) as a general rule. Is this flexible at all, and/or how strict is this rule? I have long thought of starting a thread along the lines of 'What are your other sources of wisdom?' or something on that order. There are many, many channels out there these days. Some are stinkers (IMHO!) but some are really valuable and we might all benefit by the shared knowledge.

[Ali Quadir]

Lorna Thank you for the information on bluebeam. I haven't had the time to do more than scan the page, but I added it to my todo links. I definitely need a refresher course

Lavazza, it was my pleasure to share what I know. (You know me :-P ) I don't follow blossoms channeling. I read it around august last year for some reason but I couldn't find much more than a few feel good vibes. She's a nice person. I had the impression of her being in it for the money, but after checking all the facts I had to take that back. I think she believed it as well. I believe she's a good person. So I mostly feel compassion for her. I'm not so sure about her sources. To do this to her is pretty nasty. The claim that they could not predict the human response in advance seems to me rather naive because I certainly could.

As for your spreadsheet, I'm formally trained in statistics and methodology, if there's anything you want to do with the information I'll be more than willing to lend a hand. However I'm a little worried that since all the predictions are different in probability we can't really do more than describe the figures. (Some predictions are more likely than others) But the exact date matches seem impossible enough to just speak for themselves. Also I've seen comparisons like this before, and over 50% accuracy is impressive even among good psychics. I mean it's a shame he's not on the web Maybe you should drag him here by his ears Maybe not. But it's a nice thought

[fairyfarmgirl]

Good Greetings:

I believe Blossom was a target for Black Opps remote viewers who were somehow able to connect with her and kick off the STO beings she was working with... In short they corrupted her connections in order to create chaos and disbelief that there are Beings "out there" and to negatively impact the Lightworkers everywhere.

It did not work. The Shift is happening irregardless of their interference. I am sorry that it happened to Blossom she is a beautiful soul with the greatest intentions of Peace for All. It could happen to anyone that is a channeler... always always be very very introspective about any information being recieved... especially if it seems to violate the Law of One or Freewill.. these violations can be tricky to spot...

A mass landing is not in the best interest of humanity at this time. There are still a large percentage of humans who are asleep at the wheel. A mass landing will not wake them up like some noise strip on the highway... it will only serve to move them further into sleep (fear). The heart must be opened ever so slowly until the human is aware enough to actively seek awakening.

I agree it was a particularly nasty thing to do to Blossom. I prayed for a good outcome for her when it happened. Luckily she is intact and hopefully has gained some insight from her experience of being hijacked.

There is no doubt that the Galactic Federation is here now in our Airspace... THEY are indeed HERE! All one has to do is look at the clouds... some are looking very interesting... such as clouds that look like airbrushed eagle clouds spanning miles in length and girth... cyclindrical clouds etc. They are assisting with love, light, insight, and in some cases with their technology (ie nuclear disasters etc.). But to land here and get out of their ships... Come on now... we all know that the greater masses are not ready for this. LOL

--fairyfarmgirl

[Ali Quadir]

I'm not exactly talking about mass landings Lorna. Just disclosure. Meaning the government admitting yes we have had contact with E.T.s. Explaining the how what and where situations. This is not the same as mass landings. It's a whole different situation when the news starts talking about something really weird or that weirdness comes up to you to shake hands ask about the kids and invite you for a barbecue over at Proxima Centauri next weekend.

I'm sure I'll personally be able to handle a face to face encounter. And most of you will be able to do the same I have no doubt. But I'm not ready. No one can be ready for something like that the first time can they? I'm sure I will be shocked to the core. I was shocked to the core when meeting a telepath for the first time. I've been shocked to the core a few times before so I think it will be an appropriate response to meeting an E.T. It's just going to have to deal with me calling it the most incredible thing I've seen in my life or something equally silly.

It sounds fair to me that to get from the point where the masses are as you accurately say not ready. To the point where they are requires a certain degree of disclosure. And I'm only suggesting that we are seeing suggestions that this might be starting to happen. I hope you agree that I'm being careful

These negative interventions like supposedly happened to Blossom do happen. And it's from my perspective not likely black ops. Though it could be. The creature didn't even have to be evil, there are creatures who will tell you whatever you like to hear to keep your attention and your life force focused on them. They don't know what's real, they just know what they see of you and your light. This is why discernment is so vital. She wasn't exactly forced to do what she was told. She just got a few messages whispered in her ear and decided to go public with them. How was she supposed to know not everything astral is accurate or a higher entity of love? If I blame her for that I'd have to blame a lot of people dear to me for the same thing. Including myself. Sometimes it just happens. I think she dealt with the disappointment admirably. I'm all for Forgiving and forgetting. She did us a favor by demonstrating to us the value of being more critical of what we believe.

I came to the ufo question from an esoteric occult point of view. From that perspective I can assure you that picking up messages isn't hard and it's certainly not restricted to the higher planes or e.t.'s or black ops. Even though I've actively tried to avoid those kinds of contacts I still ran into them. I don't think they're evil, or even always real entities in my opinion most of it is psychic human remains but they can be treacherous and Blossom is not the first to fall for their suggestions. I also hold her no ill will. Like you I'm certain that this is a good woman. I think she's seeing something that is real. There is a force of love out there embracing earth. And she's probably accurate in a lot of ways. I can only state she apparently wasn't in this one.

Also I'm sorry, the whole federation with it's commanders sub commanders fleets and hierarchy or elaborate command structures and codes sounds confused. Why would a group of people with one mind need a command structure or codes? I do understand however tremendously and from personal mistakes that our human minds think like this and will translate what it sees into this type of imagery. It tries to give us images we can work with, wrong images if there are no right ones we can understand.

It doesn't mean the connection is false just that it is hard to understand because it's wrapped in inappropriate imagery.

[Lavazza]

Lavazza, it was my pleasure to share what I know. (You know me :-P ) I don't follow blossoms channeling. I read it around august last year for some reason but I couldn't find much more than a few feel good vibes. She's a nice person. I had the impression of her being in it for the money, but after checking all the facts I had to take that back. I think she believed it as well. I believe she's a good person. So I mostly feel compassion for her. I'm not so sure about her sources. To do this to her is pretty nasty. The claim that they could not predict the human response in advance seems to me rather naive because I certainly could.

I agree, it is a terribly nasty thing that she went through. I wonder to what degree that event was pre-incarnation programming?

As for your spreadsheet, I'm formally trained in statistics and methodology, if there's anything you want to do with the information I'll be more than willing to lend a hand. However I'm a little worried that since all the predictions are different in probability we can't really do more than describe the figures. (Some predictions are more likely than others) But the exact date matches seem impossible enough to just speak for themselves. Also I've seen comparisons like this before, and over 50% accuracy is impressive even among good psychics. I mean it's a shame he's not on the web Maybe you should drag him here by his ears Maybe not. But it's a nice thought

You do have a point, 50% for reading the future ain't bad at all. Some of the predictions have been very accurate too. And of course some have been way off. Just enough right and wrong perhaps to prevent anyone from using the material as a guide (could be intentional?)

If you have the time and interest, you are more than welcome to attempt to shuffle the information around in a more sensible configuration, especially if you think it could be evaluated better or more accurately.

I was thinking earlier that it would be worthwhile to compile ALL predictions that are channeled on the internet in to a huge database to see what is predicted the most, and then see if those are more likely to come true. But of course that is also a huge undertaking, probably requiring the time of someone 40+ hours a week. I'd attempt it but I would also be laid off from my real job!

[Ali Quadir]

I agree, it is a terribly nasty thing that she went through. I wonder to what degree that event was pre-incarnation programming?

Maybe these things just happen. Nothing is without a reason in the end. But to what extend can we really divine the reason?

You do have a point, 50% for reading the future ain't bad at all. Some of the predictions have been very accurate too.

33 accurate dates is insane. If you look at it as if it were weather prediction then we can usually say with some accuracy that some rain is coming but we can't predict the time very accurately. Because so many variables push the event forward or backwards. The fact that he gets the dates right means he sees clearly. The fact that it only comes true 50% of the time means that he sees clearly in the wrong timeline half the time.

And of course some have been way off. Just enough right and wrong perhaps to prevent anyone from using the material as a guide (could be intentional?)

In my opinion this is an artefact of the timelines not being fixed. We live in space time and probability, most psychics can only look forward in time and they see what would happen if we move forward on this timeline. But stepping from one timeline to another occurs in a relevant manner (If we look at the numbers here) about 50% of the time.

Anyway, that's just my interpretation.

If you have the time and interest, you are more than welcome to attempt to shuffle the information around in a more sensible configuration, especially if you think it could be evaluated better or more accurately.

You put it down nicely. But I don't see any specific thing to let the statistics loose on. You can only describe and you pretty much did that. Statistics used to test something is usually comparing against something. There's nothing to compare to here.

I was thinking earlier that it would be worthwhile to compile ALL predictions that are channeled on the internet in to a huge database to see what is predicted the most, and then see if those are more likely to come true. But of course that is also a huge undertaking, probably requiring the time of someone 40+ hours a week. I'd attempt it but I would also be laid off from my real job!

Heh You might be interested in webbot though, it's not exactly a compilation of all predictions in a central database. But it's a compilation of all subjects publicly available on the internet. Basically what they do is crawl websites to see if some topics change frequency. If this happens without outside cause then it's often a predictor for something about to happen that people consciously or subconsciously see coming.

[Monica]

I believe Blossom was a target for Black Opps remote viewers who were somehow able to connect with her and kick off the STO beings she was working with... In short they corrupted her connections in order to create chaos and disbelief that there are Beings "out there" and to negatively impact the Lightworkers everywhere.

It did not work. The Shift is happening irregardless of their interference. I am sorry that it happened to Blossom she is a beautiful soul with the greatest intentions of Peace for All. It could happen to anyone that is a channeler... always always be very very introspective about any information being recieved... especially if it seems to violate the Law of One or Freewill.. these violations can be tricky to spot...

Yes, this is very common.

A mass landing is not in the best interest of humanity at this time. There are still a large percentage of humans who are asleep at the wheel. A mass landing will not wake them up like some noise strip on the highway... it will only serve to move them further into sleep (fear). The heart must be opened ever so slowly until the human is aware enough to actively seek awakening.

Agreed!

There is no doubt that the Galactic Federation is here now in our Airspace... THEY are indeed HERE! All one has to do is look at the clouds... some are looking very interesting... such as clouds that look like airbrushed eagle clouds spanning miles in length and girth... cyclindrical clouds etc.

You see them in the clouds??? Please tell me more! When I first read the Law of One, and had just left dogmatic religion, I was questioning whether it was real and asked for guidance...well that day on the way to work I saw the HUGE UFO shape in the clouds...a perfect shape! Not like "Oh that looks like a bunny" which is always a stretch, but absolutely perfect! Nor was it an actual UFO, no lights (it was in daylight), but the clouds themselves that formed that shape! It was so perfect that I knew without a doubt that it was a sign, just for me!

Then, a couple of years later, I was at an astrologically significant event at the stone circle Callanish in Scotland. I'd been connecting with dragons throughout the trip, even walking the Dragon Path at Glastonbury...Anyway, at the moment when the Moon 'walked across the land' and fit into the notch in the stones, an even that occurs only once every 17 years, I saw a perfect dragon in the clouds! It spread out across most of the sky, absolutely HUGE! Again, not one of those things where you can use your imagination, but a perfect shape! It lasted just a couple of minutes and then was gone, and no-one else saw it.

So, I am particularly interested in what you've been seeing the clouds.

They are assisting with love, light, insight, and in some cases with their technology (ie nuclear disasters etc.). But to land here and get out of their ships... Come on now... we all know that the greater masses are not ready for this.

I agree! It would cause widespread panic. Not gonna happen, imho.

[Ali Quadir]

Today I saw a project camelot video where it is claimed that Obama would anounce the contact with 6 ET races at the 27th of November.

Now.... This is Camelot. They are not an independent source, more a sounding board. So this doesn't add to my convictions. But it does mean they also picked up on the vectors. And something like this is supposed to happen around this time.

That's really all I am saying. I'm not talking about mass landings, just about the pieces for disclosure falling into place. There's talk from various independent sources, even Nostradamus and the Hopi have this prediction in their list, and it's picking up speed. It's suggested by various independent sources today as far as I can see. I'm not betting my bum on it but I am watching it intently.

Soon it's going to be difficult to see who said what first because as usually happens the Internet is likely to go into a crescendo of people picking it up and announcing the same thing and adding their own thoughts causing the usual Babylonian confusions. That happened when Blossom made her announcement last year so whether disclosure truly happens or not this crescendo thing is probably a safe bet.

If I was certain I'd be playing a joke on my coworkers, I'd ask them what it would take for them to believe in aliens, if a statement by the president would do. They'll consider that impossible so they'll probably say yes, and I'd tell em I'll ask him to prepare a statement But I'm not betting my good name on this one, it's low enough as it is

[fairyfarmgirl]

Today I saw a project camelot video where it is claimed that Obama would anounce the contact with 6 ET races at the 27th of November.

Now.... This is Camelot. They are not an independent source, more a sounding board. So this doesn't add to my convictions. But it does mean they also picked up on the vectors. And something like this is supposed to happen around this time.

That's really all I am saying. I'm not talking about mass landings, just about the pieces for disclosure falling into place. There's talk from various independent sources, even Nostradamus and the Hopi have this prediction in their list, and it's picking up speed. It's suggested by various independent sources today as far as I can see. I'm not betting my bum on it but I am watching it intently.

Soon it's going to be difficult to see who said what first because as usually happens the Internet is likely to go into a crescendo of people picking it up and announcing the same thing and adding their own thoughts causing the usual Babylonian confusions. That happened when Blossom made her announcement last year so whether disclosure truly happens or not this crescendo thing is probably a safe bet.

If I was certain I'd be playing a joke on my coworkers, I'd ask them what it would take for them to believe in aliens, if a statement by the president would do. They'll consider that impossible so they'll probably say yes, and I'd tell em I'll ask him to prepare a statement But I'm not betting my good name on this one, it's low enough as it is

Dearest Ali Quadir:

Just remember Blossom--- and also the man who was told his wife had died and he had to come home immediately.

It was his birthday!

And he was so upset that his wife was dead! So when he walked through his front door... Turns on the lights and all of a sudden everyone yells: "Surprise!"
On his birthday...

The man drops down dead of a heart attack!" So much for the birthday party!

Practical jokes can be tricky especially when a reality is being shifted! But I do hear you when you say it would be a good joke if you were to know it were to really and truly be happening.

I look forward to the 27th of November... A 9 day... Imagine that...

--fairyfarmgirl

[Lavazza]

Today I saw a project camelot video where it is claimed that Obama would anounce the contact with 6 ET races at the 27th of November.

Boy, I really hope that's right. But I just can't see that happening for political and economic reasons right now. I don't know how well any here follow political news, (and if you live in the united states it's hard not to hear about it at least), but the Obama administration is pushing hard for health care reform right now. Not just that but our crappy economy is just now showing a pulse again. To disclose that sort of information in just a few months would not be a wise thing to do. The markets would sink again since they are so sensitive to fear, and it would be a major distraction for passing the health reform.

Maybe something is afoot for November. Possibly a large disclosure from the UN? Or some other group? Or maybe more mass sightings? Who knows, but I doubt highly it will be revelations from US authorities. (of course, I could be wrong!)

[Monica]

...it is claimed that Obama would anounce the contact with 6 ET races at the 27th of November.

I just don't see it happening. Obama is having a hard enough time just with 'healthcare' reform! Unless he is, as DW and some others have suggested, a Wanderer who volunteered for this important job during this important time.

Hmmm....

(edit) Ah, Lavazza, I just now read your post saying the same thing!

[Ali Quadir]

Just remember Blossom--- and also the man who was told his wife had died and he had to come home immediately.

I will not forget FairyFarmGirl.. Thank you for your concern for me.

Let me assure you I'm not selling my house to run naked in the woods yet. I don't rely on this information. And I will not scare the hell out of my colleagues just for the fun of it. I would never do that. Even if the idea is funny there is a difference between entertaining yourself with a funny idea and entertaining yourself with the pain of others.

I'm not worried that they'll believe me though. They rarely ever believe me in mundane matters. The pig flu was scary until I pointed out actual figures. From that point on they started downplaying it. Before it they were intimidated by it. But if I didn't have the figures released by important organizations they would not have believed me. In fact they didn't believe me, they believed the organizations I pointed them to. I'm the Hippie with the crazy ideas.

Also if disclosure gives them a heart attack then it's going to happen either way maybe if I warned them in advance they would maybe be more protected. At any rate these guys are young and healthy, they won't have heart attacks, they'll just make jokes about the world going crazy. That's how they deal with things.

I'm more worried about the false flag. If I don't let on knowing about this before it happens. How much chance do I have for them to believe me when it does happens and I recognize it as a false flag and I really need them to know it too? Also on the other hand if disclosure happens a lot of people are going to want to talk and it'd be good for them to know someone.

This is the silly part of the whole thing. From many angles it seems humanity is going through enormous changes. Most people don't even realize this and there's little we can do to change this. Free will right?

Boy, I really hope that's right. But I just can't see that happening for political and economic reasons right now. I don't know how well any here follow political news, (and if you live in the united states it's hard not to hear about it at least), but the Obama administration is pushing hard for health care reform right now.

I know your politics better than my own. In fact... You define the politics in my country... I stopped looking at local politics a long time ago. (With an exception to the xenophobia pointed at muslims, that's an issue that annoys me too much to let go) So I'm informed, I saw Obama's speeches and the issues with the health care.. I regularly inform myself of his speeches and actions. It's much more important and influential than the politics in my country. They're a bit weak to say it bluntly.

Maybe one of you guys can explain to me the American definition of a socialist. In my understanding it means someone who cares for his fellow man. A social attitude. Americans in the news often consider it the root of all evil or so it seems.

Not just that but our crappy economy is just now showing a pulse again. To disclose that sort of information in just a few months would not be a wise thing to do. The markets would sink again since they are so sensitive to fear, and it would be a major distraction for passing the health reform.

Actually. If the health reform is getting sabotaged. Distracting everyone with disclosure is going to make a huge difference, not only can Obama play the hero, knight in shining armor, good guy and overall rebel card a few more times.. A role he loves and is good at. He shines when he plays the avatar role. He's likely to be able to push health reform through while the people are looking up and worshiping him at the same time. Also attitudes are going to change a lot when this new awareness kicks in. Which will make a more social "together" attitude more likely to work.

And this is Obama's push from the start, he realizes the economy isn't saved. It just stopped being in a free fall, people are still going bankrupt and the damage will take years if not decades to overcome. US debt is huge per person it's more debt than anyone can hope to repay his share of in a lifetime. People are going to have to come together like Europeans did after the second world war. It made a huge difference and had an enormous impact on the thinking in these regions. It was almost literally imposed as a mantra here especially in our elderly generations. The attitude that you're working for everyone, not just your own family. The younger generations lost touch with this but it's still a strong influence.

But look at germany, after the second world war they were in total ruins and on the brink of financial collapse. They now are one of the major economies in the world and certainly strong for a country of their size. I work with germans, and you just don't make jokes or talk about the second world war. Even if this is the third generation after it. Point is they made it because they changed their mentality around it, it's there, deal with it. They could not afford the nintendo generation like we can today.

The US is in for the same period of rebuilding but they have a much stronger economy now, a great position in the world, and their infrastructure is intact. I don't see any reason why this titan won't get back up. You've got a great country. My opinion moved around a lot in the past 20 years, but it's a great country.

Maybe something is afoot for November. Possibly a large disclosure from the UN? Or some other group? Or maybe more mass sightings? Who knows, but I doubt highly it will be revelations from US authorities. (of course, I could be wrong!)

And I could be too... Fact is for now the vectors seem to be pointing to the US government. A lot of governments already performed disclosure. France and mexico from the top of my head disclosed all files, but these guys didn't do much more than document lights in the sky. And their disclosures have not done more than pave the way.

[Ali Quadir]

Just noted Wilcock is also reporting potential disclosure before the end of the year.

Told you Soon the internet is going to be bursting with these reports to the point where the "less strict" mainstream media is going to report on it.

[Lavazza]

Just noted Wilcock is also reporting potential disclosure before the end of the year.

Told you Soon the internet is going to be bursting with these reports to the point where the "less strict" mainstream media is going to report on it.

The video with Steven Greer towards the bottom of Wilcock's page was pretty amazing. Sounds like a lot is in the works.

[3D Sunset]

Maybe one of you guys can explain to me the American definition of a socialist. In my understanding it means someone who cares for his fellow man. A social attitude. Americans in the news often consider it the root of all evil or so it seems.

Hi Ali,

I just noticed that this request had been left unanswered, so I thought I'd take a stab at it. Let me start by saying, that there is no single "American definition of the word". It means several things in different regions and socio-economic classes. That said, there is probably a "feeling" to the word that is relatively familiar, shall we say, across these regions and classes. I'll try to enunciate it below.

The main issue with the word is all the baggage it brings with it. Ever since the rise of Socialism in the former USSR, the term has been used in America to mean "unlike us". So the "Socialists" were not just different from the "Capitalists", but they were actually felt to be "un-American" (hence the House Un-American Activities Committee in Congress during the McCarthy years). Note also that most Americans could not tell you the difference between "Socialism" and "Communism".

Aside from that, the term has also become synonymous with the concept of taking what is "mine" to give it to someone else whom I have no input in choosing (just seems un-American, don't it!). Thus, the idea that taxes are inherently "socialistic" even thought they are necessary, but raising taxes is especially "socialistic" - if not down right Communistic (seems they do see a difference in that Communism is clearly worse than Socialism... but they're both bad, and probably associated with un-Godliness if not out right Devil worship, so you really should keep your dogs and children away from them too). What's really funny is that most Americans would say they like the stories and approve of the behavior of Robin Hood, even though he is a determinedly "socialist" character. Of course, most Americans don't consider themselves rich either (aside from how even our below-median incomes would rank most Americans toward the top of a world-wide income list). I guess the difference is that the "rich" are always someone else, not "me", so it's okay to take from "them".

There are certainly those Americans that are ready and willing to help others in whatever way they can (even financially). The problem with "Socialism" though is that people view helping others in that way is inherently less efficient since you're trusting a "bunch of bureaucrats" to decide how best to deploy "your" money. Just another side-effect of not trusting the government at all anymore.

I could go on for a few more pages, but I think you've got basic the picture. In short, in America calling some "Socialist" is generally considered an insult... but then again, so is calling them a "capitalist" in a lot of places.

Ultimately, for the vast majority of sleeping Americans, these arguments just become more excuses to ignite their orange and yellow rays to protect themselves and their pack at the exclusion of others.

Excuse me now, I need to take a shower, I'm feeling kinda dirty all of a sudden.

3D Sunset

[Lavazza]

Ultimately, for the vast majority of sleeping Americans, these arguments just become more excuses to ignite their orange and yellow rays to protect themselves and their pack at the exclusion of others.

Excuse me now, I need to take a shower, I'm feeling kinda dirty all of a sudden.

Haha! Well written explanation 3D. I would only echo that the term 'Socialist' has been tossed around so much lately that it has taken just about every negative definition possible and undoubtedly many who uses the term in a fear based context has no idea what it really means. The now infamous town hall meetings that are getting so much coverage (thanks to our terrific media) only illustrate these fears. Rest assured that they are as ridiculous looking to the majority of Americans as they are to the rest of the world.

Oddly enough, some of the most passionate protesters against health care reform (and "socialist" agendas...) would stand to benefit the most from heath care reform. Here's to sending them love, and especially light.