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    thr33tim3 (Offline)

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    05-20-2009, 06:23 PM (This post was last modified: 05-20-2009, 06:29 PM by thr33tim3.)
    Hi folks, I just found this website yesterday while searching to see if there had been any updates at the L/L Research webpage since I'd visited last. I am looking forward to participating in the chat, as I don't have anyone in my "real life" to talk to about any spiritual issues. I thought I would post an intro here, I will try to keep it short but I'm sure I'll ramble.

    I've suffered from deep depression since I was a small kid, and was frequently picked on and bullied in school, such that by my teenage years I was very overweight and dressed in all-black clothing. I was always into things that other people found strange, like art, independent film, all types of music, foreign comics, and although I felt myself to be very open-minded and accepting of others, I found that I was frequently rejected by other kids for not paying attention to mainstream TV shows and popular movies, etc. My parents had some books on buddhism and zen, and the concept of "life is suffering" rang very true to me, so I began a practice of meditation, as well as yoga.

    Gradually, in college, I became exposed to more metaphysical writings and books about psychedelic experience by folks like Tim Leary, John Lilly and Terence Mckenna. I read feverishly about "altered states" and out-of-body experiences, and although I wanted to experiment with some drugs, I didn't have any friends who could get me any, so I mostly just read about it. Over time, this reading led me to Daniel Pinchbeck's online forum in '02, where people discussed topics including psychedelics, but also branching into issues like conspiracy theories, 2012, metaphysics (he was a big fan of Rudolph Steiner). One name I saw discussed several times (and usually ridiculed) was David Icke, so I checked out his "Biggest Secret" book, which really blew my mind and got me thinking about a lot more "far out" issues. I began reading as many of the books he'd reference in his bibliographies as I could find, so I got heavily into conspiracy theories as well as channeling and stuff about UFOs.

    Between '02 and '05 I devoured probably hundreds of books on these subjects, spending a lot of time with The Seth Material, The Ra Material, Cosmic Awareness, Messages From Matthew, Amitakh Stanford's material, Fritz Springmeier's books and lots of research on government mind control, MKULTRA and that sort of thing. I filled my living space with pieces of orgonite and crystals, burned sage, did lots of visualization and affirmation work from the books I was reading, and spent a lot of time doing "information activism" of sharing books and posting info on forums on the web. In a lot of ways, my life became totally different from how it was previously, and I became much less concerned with issues like "social popularity" or "fitting in", when I had realized that our world was in tremendous peril and under the control of Luciferian and Satanic groups being guided by extra-dimensional negative forces. Oi vey!

    I tried my best to share books and information with my friends and people I'd meet, but had pretty depressing experiences with all of it. Most people thought I was nuts for even reading this sort of material, and I ended up getting called a "space cadet" more than once, while most kids my age debated over whether the republican or democratic party was the best choice, etc. I was able to start my first relationship with a woman, which at age 23 I felt like a pretty huge loser for never having had a serious girlfriend, and was hugely relieved when I found I could share my thoughts with her and she was actually open and interested. We ended up doing a tremendous amount of reading and discussing of material together. She also suffered from a lot of depression/bipolar as well, and our relationship gradually became very dysfunctional, with a lot of arguments over nothing. That is getting ahead of myself though.

    After we graduated from college, we lived in the Bay Area for about a year and a half, but had a tremendously difficult time finding work. She got a couple of coffee shop jobs that paid like $8/hr, and I found a part-time job in a dance record warehouse, and later a book warehouse. The commute was insane, the pollution was really bad (air/water/noise, you name it), we had gunfire next door more than once, and the rent for a tiny 1BD apartment was ridiculous. By this time, we had been reading conspiracy theory material for several years, and were genuinely very concerned that MARTIAL LAW was looming on the horizon at any moment, with lots of websites posting predictions that "next month is gonna be a huge event" or "its all going to go down this Fall!" etc etc. Well, obviously the predictions were BS, and in retrospect I can see that people have been predicting martial law regularly since at least the '80s. But at the time, we felt the best thing was to get OUT of the city and look for community. Especially having read George Green's Handbook For The New Paradigm series, which talks specifically about the important of find "like-minded spiritual community" and establishing a new society based on such, this seemed very important to us, as well as the logical "next step".

    So we spent a couple months trying to connect with people setting up intentional communities in central california, but it seemed like everyone we met was just at the IDEA stage of the process, and everyone was waiting for financial backing, or workers to build stuff, and we found the personalities involved to often be a little kooky or dogmatic. We gradually made our way north, and fell in love with Mt. Shasta and Siskiyou County, which many people have written is a spiritual energy center. We also found a house over twice as big as our city apartment, for almost $300/month LESS, so we were very happy to move. Unfortunately the trouble with living in the middle of nowhere is that its even harder to find any work, so it took a while to get stable jobs, but at least our expenses were reduced and we were able to get out in nature all the time.

    This is already going really long, so I'll cut to the chase. The "spiritual people" in Mt. Shasta all seemed to be twice our age and very dogmatic, usually ONLY paying any attention to the Sananda material of the I AM Church, and spending a lot of time praying to ascended masters, which was never anything I was interested in or drawn to. They frequently had literally NO AWARENESS of the conspiracy-type material, and were not open to discussing other channeled sources of information if it wasn't talking about I AM concepts of Ascension and the Violet Flame and all that. My relationship with my gf became more and more toxic as years passed and we were still making very little money, frequently running out of cash before the end of the month, unable to find better jobs. Eventually she met a pathological liar new age guy who convinced her that they were soul-mates, and that the CIA had sterilized him so there was no problem having unprotected sex, and ended up getting her pregnant. They now live together and the few times I've seen her she has shown me bruises from where he beats her.

    SO now I'm living in the middle of nowhere, with only a couple of friends who live about 45 mins drive away, and a part-time job that barely covers my rent, bills and gas each month. I have applied to grad school in Portland OR, which would give me a chance to move to a more populated area and maybe get involved in some music. I have been composing my own music for many years, and FINALLY got a response to a demo CD I mailed out over the winter, and got a two-album deal with an indie label in Chicago! So I'll have my first full-length CD in stores hopefully in the Fall, which I'm really psyched about. I am very confused about my next step though, as I still feel like the big cities are NOT a good place to be, and I really wish I could have found that "like-minded community" I have been searching for for so long...

    Where I'm going with all of this is... after all these years, I am still struggling with depression very strongly every day. I frequently wake up feeling sad. I have sad dreams where I'm crying or arguing with someone. I feel sad to the point of tears I would say several times per week. I am lonely and have no one to talk with about anything less superficial than "what music is cool" or "what movies do you like", which seems to be the main interest of people my age. I'm 28 now, and have been "awake and aware" to these metaphysical issues for about seven years now. I guess I feel very let-down with the amount of effort I've put into my meditation, visualization and affirmation practice, and the results I seem to have gotten (*not freakin' much*). I literally feel as though I've spent hundreds of hours meditating on visualizing light permeating my being, permeating the hearts of all beings, permeating the world, creating a strong connection with the highest levels of consciousness, the Christ consciousness and the will of the Creator. I am constantly affirming my own balance, peace and vibrant health, and my willingness to be of service in whatever way the Creator will move me. But I feel no great peace in my heart. I feel sad most of the time, and confused about what to do with myself, frustrated by how broke I am financially. When I meditate in silence, I feel great calm, but as soon as I'm out of it, its like "well, back to the sh*t pile of my life".

    I am also distressed by all of the contradictions of the material I've read. It sometimes makes me wonder if any of this spiritual material is actually valid, or its all some sort of distortion that we're working through.

    Existentially I feel very unhappy. I frequently wonder WHY I would have chosen to incarnate in such a life. I have done past-life regressions in which I also got in touch with a couple of previous lives, both of which were extremely depressing and lonely as well. This world seems to be full of suffering that is mainly the fault of the higher beings in positions of power forcing their will on beings who are not even aware enough to defend themselves. I wonder what sort of effect I truly intended to have on this earth, as my life has been one of constant disappointment and alienation. I do not write this asking for sympathy, rather I genuinely wonder what I can do about this. I still meditate almost every day, do info activism regularly, do my best to share information with friends and acquaintances. The Ra Material, along with the Cosmic Awareness material, has stayed strong with me throughout these years, while other sources of information have come and gone from my focus. I am happy to find a forum where we can discuss these issues, and I hope I'll have something valuable to input. I wonder why my "soul" would have chosen this experience of intense emotional suffering, on such a distorted, degraded planet. I mainly just desire to leave, to be done with it all, to return to my spiritual source and NEVER have anything to do with the planet Earth again. The suffering has already been so intense, I really wonder how I can ever feel as though it was "worth it". This world seems to be EXTREMELY messed up, which suggests to me that something is very wrong with consciousness in this universe. I especially feel a great deal of compassion and heartache for the victims of satanic ritual abuse and mind control, which most new agers are completely oblivious to, and get upset when I bring it up. I could go on and on but I'll stop.

    Thank you for the space to share my thoughts.

    Tim
    Gosh that ended up being long, I'm embarassed.
    I forgot to mention my websites: http://www.truesoundhealing.com for my meditation music and MFA thesis on The Use Of Sound For Control, Healing and Empowerment
    http://www.tanukidreams.net for my new ambient electronic music, music reviews, etc.
    Tim

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    Lorna (Offline)

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    #2
    05-20-2009, 06:49 PM
    dear tim, welcome and thank you for sharing your story

    i think you've described very well why wanderers are referred to as the brothers and sisters of sorrow

    i quickly wanted to say that for me these low periods, and i've experienced a couple, are tremendously valuable times of learning - heartbreaking and demoralising when you're in the depths of them though. it sounds as if things are starting to come together for you, i hope that is indeed the case.

    the other thing i wanted to say was to remember to be gentle with yourself, life has a funny way of working out, give your path time to reveal itself

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    Yoda1 (Offline)

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    #3
    05-20-2009, 07:18 PM
    (05-20-2009, 06:23 PM)thr33tim3 Wrote: Hi folks, I just found this website yesterday while searching to see if there had been any updates at the L/L Research webpage since I'd visited last. I am looking forward to participating in the chat, as I don't have anyone in my "real life" to talk to about any spiritual issues. I thought I would post an intro here, I will try to keep it short but I'm sure I'll ramble.

    I've suffered from deep depression since I was a small kid, and was frequently picked on and bullied in school, such that by my teenage years I was very overweight and dressed in all-black clothing. I was always into things that other people found strange, like art, independent film, all types of music, foreign comics, and although I felt myself to be very open-minded and accepting of others, I found that I was frequently rejected by other kids for not paying attention to mainstream TV shows and popular movies, etc. My parents had some books on buddhism and zen, and the concept of "life is suffering" rang very true to me, so I began a practice of meditation, as well as yoga.

    Gradually, in college, I became exposed to more metaphysical writings and books about psychedelic experience by folks like Tim Leary, John Lilly and Terence Mckenna. I read feverishly about "altered states" and out-of-body experiences, and although I wanted to experiment with some drugs, I didn't have any friends who could get me any, so I mostly just read about it. Over time, this reading led me to Daniel Pinchbeck's online forum in '02, where people discussed topics including psychedelics, but also branching into issues like conspiracy theories, 2012, metaphysics (he was a big fan of Rudolph Steiner). One name I saw discussed several times (and usually ridiculed) was David Icke, so I checked out his "Biggest Secret" book, which really blew my mind and got me thinking about a lot more "far out" issues. I began reading as many of the books he'd reference in his bibliographies as I could find, so I got heavily into conspiracy theories as well as channeling and stuff about UFOs.

    Between '02 and '05 I devoured probably hundreds of books on these subjects, spending a lot of time with The Seth Material, The Ra Material, Cosmic Awareness, Messages From Matthew, Amitakh Stanford's material, Fritz Springmeier's books and lots of research on government mind control, MKULTRA and that sort of thing. I filled my living space with pieces of orgonite and crystals, burned sage, did lots of visualization and affirmation work from the books I was reading, and spent a lot of time doing "information activism" of sharing books and posting info on forums on the web. In a lot of ways, my life became totally different from how it was previously, and I became much less concerned with issues like "social popularity" or "fitting in", when I had realized that our world was in tremendous peril and under the control of Luciferian and Satanic groups being guided by extra-dimensional negative forces. Oi vey!

    I tried my best to share books and information with my friends and people I'd meet, but had pretty depressing experiences with all of it. Most people thought I was nuts for even reading this sort of material, and I ended up getting called a "space cadet" more than once, while most kids my age debated over whether the republican or democratic party was the best choice, etc. I was able to start my first relationship with a woman, which at age 23 I felt like a pretty huge loser for never having had a serious girlfriend, and was hugely relieved when I found I could share my thoughts with her and she was actually open and interested. We ended up doing a tremendous amount of reading and discussing of material together. She also suffered from a lot of depression/bipolar as well, and our relationship gradually became very dysfunctional, with a lot of arguments over nothing. That is getting ahead of myself though.

    After we graduated from college, we lived in the Bay Area for about a year and a half, but had a tremendously difficult time finding work. She got a couple of coffee shop jobs that paid like $8/hr, and I found a part-time job in a dance record warehouse, and later a book warehouse. The commute was insane, the pollution was really bad (air/water/noise, you name it), we had gunfire next door more than once, and the rent for a tiny 1BD apartment was ridiculous. By this time, we had been reading conspiracy theory material for several years, and were genuinely very concerned that MARTIAL LAW was looming on the horizon at any moment, with lots of websites posting predictions that "next month is gonna be a huge event" or "its all going to go down this Fall!" etc etc. Well, obviously the predictions were BS, and in retrospect I can see that people have been predicting martial law regularly since at least the '80s. But at the time, we felt the best thing was to get OUT of the city and look for community. Especially having read George Green's Handbook For The New Paradigm series, which talks specifically about the important of find "like-minded spiritual community" and establishing a new society based on such, this seemed very important to us, as well as the logical "next step".

    So we spent a couple months trying to connect with people setting up intentional communities in central california, but it seemed like everyone we met was just at the IDEA stage of the process, and everyone was waiting for financial backing, or workers to build stuff, and we found the personalities involved to often be a little kooky or dogmatic. We gradually made our way north, and fell in love with Mt. Shasta and Siskiyou County, which many people have written is a spiritual energy center. We also found a house over twice as big as our city apartment, for almost $300/month LESS, so we were very happy to move. Unfortunately the trouble with living in the middle of nowhere is that its even harder to find any work, so it took a while to get stable jobs, but at least our expenses were reduced and we were able to get out in nature all the time.

    This is already going really long, so I'll cut to the chase. The "spiritual people" in Mt. Shasta all seemed to be twice our age and very dogmatic, usually ONLY paying any attention to the Sananda material of the I AM Church, and spending a lot of time praying to ascended masters, which was never anything I was interested in or drawn to. They frequently had literally NO AWARENESS of the conspiracy-type material, and were not open to discussing other channeled sources of information if it wasn't talking about I AM concepts of Ascension and the Violet Flame and all that. My relationship with my gf became more and more toxic as years passed and we were still making very little money, frequently running out of cash before the end of the month, unable to find better jobs. Eventually she met a pathological liar new age guy who convinced her that they were soul-mates, and that the CIA had sterilized him so there was no problem having unprotected sex, and ended up getting her pregnant. They now live together and the few times I've seen her she has shown me bruises from where he beats her.

    SO now I'm living in the middle of nowhere, with only a couple of friends who live about 45 mins drive away, and a part-time job that barely covers my rent, bills and gas each month. I have applied to grad school in Portland OR, which would give me a chance to move to a more populated area and maybe get involved in some music. I have been composing my own music for many years, and FINALLY got a response to a demo CD I mailed out over the winter, and got a two-album deal with an indie label in Chicago! So I'll have my first full-length CD in stores hopefully in the Fall, which I'm really psyched about. I am very confused about my next step though, as I still feel like the big cities are NOT a good place to be, and I really wish I could have found that "like-minded community" I have been searching for for so long...

    Where I'm going with all of this is... after all these years, I am still struggling with depression very strongly every day. I frequently wake up feeling sad. I have sad dreams where I'm crying or arguing with someone. I feel sad to the point of tears I would say several times per week. I am lonely and have no one to talk with about anything less superficial than "what music is cool" or "what movies do you like", which seems to be the main interest of people my age. I'm 28 now, and have been "awake and aware" to these metaphysical issues for about seven years now. I guess I feel very let-down with the amount of effort I've put into my meditation, visualization and affirmation practice, and the results I seem to have gotten (*not freakin' much*). I literally feel as though I've spent hundreds of hours meditating on visualizing light permeating my being, permeating the hearts of all beings, permeating the world, creating a strong connection with the highest levels of consciousness, the Christ consciousness and the will of the Creator. I am constantly affirming my own balance, peace and vibrant health, and my willingness to be of service in whatever way the Creator will move me. But I feel no great peace in my heart. I feel sad most of the time, and confused about what to do with myself, frustrated by how broke I am financially. When I meditate in silence, I feel great calm, but as soon as I'm out of it, its like "well, back to the sh*t pile of my life".

    I am also distressed by all of the contradictions of the material I've read. It sometimes makes me wonder if any of this spiritual material is actually valid, or its all some sort of distortion that we're working through.

    Existentially I feel very unhappy. I frequently wonder WHY I would have chosen to incarnate in such a life. I have done past-life regressions in which I also got in touch with a couple of previous lives, both of which were extremely depressing and lonely as well. This world seems to be full of suffering that is mainly the fault of the higher beings in positions of power forcing their will on beings who are not even aware enough to defend themselves. I wonder what sort of effect I truly intended to have on this earth, as my life has been one of constant disappointment and alienation. I do not write this asking for sympathy, rather I genuinely wonder what I can do about this. I still meditate almost every day, do info activism regularly, do my best to share information with friends and acquaintances. The Ra Material, along with the Cosmic Awareness material, has stayed strong with me throughout these years, while other sources of information have come and gone from my focus. I am happy to find a forum where we can discuss these issues, and I hope I'll have something valuable to input. I wonder why my "soul" would have chosen this experience of intense emotional suffering, on such a distorted, degraded planet. I mainly just desire to leave, to be done with it all, to return to my spiritual source and NEVER have anything to do with the planet Earth again. The suffering has already been so intense, I really wonder how I can ever feel as though it was "worth it". This world seems to be EXTREMELY messed up, which suggests to me that something is very wrong with consciousness in this universe. I especially feel a great deal of compassion and heartache for the victims of satanic ritual abuse and mind control, which most new agers are completely oblivious to, and get upset when I bring it up. I could go on and on but I'll stop.

    Thank you for the space to share my thoughts.

    Tim
    Gosh that ended up being long, I'm embarassed.
    I forgot to mention my websites: http://www.truesoundhealing.com for my meditation music and MFA thesis on The Use Of Sound For Control, Healing and Empowerment
    http://www.tanukidreams.net for my new ambient electronic music, music reviews, etc.
    Tim

    You are not alone I have been depressed most of my life and hit rock bottom cause it seems there is a point in our life that all the things comes at us all at once and its like needing attention now. Its not fun either but we have to force our selves to get out of the rut we get in and start a new path no matter how tough it is. I think it is why we chose this life for spiritual growth. We are here to help spread light/Love and for our own personal growth and understanding. Thanks for sharing


    Yoda1

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    thr33tim3 (Offline)

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    #4
    05-20-2009, 10:03 PM
    (05-20-2009, 06:49 PM)Lorna Wrote: dear tim, welcome and thank you for sharing your story

    i think you've described very well why wanderers are referred to as the brothers and sisters of sorrow

    i quickly wanted to say that for me these low periods, and i've experienced a couple, are tremendously valuable times of learning - heartbreaking and demoralising when you're in the depths of them though. it sounds as if things are starting to come together for you, i hope that is indeed the case.

    the other thing i wanted to say was to remember to be gentle with yourself, life has a funny way of working out, give your path time to reveal itself

    Hi Lorna, thanks for your response! I have read many of the other wanderers' stories on this forum, and indeed I can see we have a lot of common ground. Does the Ra Material address and further explain the whole "brothers and sisters of sorrow" concept/scenario? I remember the phrase but I guess I should go back and read again and search for it. Smile

    So often I ask WHY? WHY would I choose to be a brother of sorrow for petesake? Why not a "brother of happy parties and fun times"?? Is all this suffering SO necessary? Apparently it is, but I wonder WHY.

    You are right though, I tend to be hard on myself, and have frequently been told I need to be more patient. It does seem as though some things are "coming together" for me, in the sense that I am thinking of moving and going back to school, and releasing my first CD to the public. Still, I mean, I wonder about stuff like "is there any point going back to school? Will the economy/society collapse before I graduate? Should I really be in a city?" But I know that being around more people is probably a good thing, overall, because I am very isolated right now and its a drag.

    Yoda1, thank you for your words as well. I've definitely picked myself up out of a number of ruts in my life, so I will just "keep at it". Smile I've never given up hope, for what its worth.

    Thanks
    Tim

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    05-21-2009, 07:46 AM
    For some reason, I have thought of this article when reading your wanderer story. I used to deal with Depression until I had an awakening and raised my vibration. Then in a short time I shed all that was feeding me to feed themselves. A swift moving stream is transparent full of life and light.

    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/advent.../peru.html The article is called to Hell and Back.

    fairyfarmgirl

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    thr33tim3 (Offline)

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    05-21-2009, 12:44 PM
    Hi fairyfamgirl, thanks for the article. I have been reading about ayahuasca for nearly ten years. I've always wanted to try it, but never met anyone with access to it, and I'm certainly not in a position to take an "entheogen holiday" down to Peru to try it out. Smile It sounds like it has helped a lot of people out.

    I have been doing tons of meditation and visualization excercises over the past few years that are SUPPOSED to "raise your vibrations" and clear out any negative energetic attachments... BUT... I guess I'm just not sure if its working, since I STILL feel depressed and sad after all these years. It feels like I'm taking all the right actions, but not getting the results. I've been told by more than one person that this is because I may have "subconscious blocks" or even "implants" that are preventing me from manifesting my true purpose, but then again I've been trying to get to the root of those blocks for years and really don't feel like I've figured anything out. Hmm.

    Tim

    Tim

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    05-21-2009, 01:47 PM
    (05-21-2009, 12:44 PM)thr33tim3 Wrote: Hi fairyfamgirl, thanks for the article. I have been reading about ayahuasca for nearly ten years. I've always wanted to try it, but never met anyone with access to it, and I'm certainly not in a position to take an "entheogen holiday" down to Peru to try it out. Smile It sounds like it has helped a lot of people out.

    I have been doing tons of meditation and visualization excercises over the past few years that are SUPPOSED to "raise your vibrations" and clear out any negative energetic attachments... BUT... I guess I'm just not sure if its working, since I STILL feel depressed and sad after all these years. It feels like I'm taking all the right actions, but not getting the results. I've been told by more than one person that this is because I may have "subconscious blocks" or even "implants" that are preventing me from manifesting my true purpose, but then again I've been trying to get to the root of those blocks for years and really don't feel like I've figured anything out. Hmm.

    Tim

    Tim

    The is more than one way to shed that which is blocking you... I worked with a talented Energy worker who had advanced abilities in Aromatherapy and energy healing (use of energy spheres to assist you in pushing out the thorns of negativity) and through the use of plant spirit medicine coupled with advanced abilities of working with and healing and teaching me to maintain my energy systems along with the aromatherapy in addition to me re-training my mind and body to ignore the "whispers of inequity" and follow the whisper of my soul... my depression seemed to vanish over the night.

    What stood out in the article was the releasing of that which is thorns of negativity and subverted programming of the mind, body and energy systems.

    One does not necessarily need ayahuasca to do this--- the shamanic practices of soul retrieval are the same with or without the drug. For instance this type of trance that allows for greater healing can be achieved through aromatherapy and plant spirit medicine as well as through sound (drums or crystal bowl). There are those here to help... It is up to the seeker to attract the teacher to assist.

    It is a journey within to face squarely that which is in opposition to our true nature and see it for what it is all the while filling it with love that leads to integration and freedom.

    I wish you well.

    fairyfarmgirl

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    #8
    05-21-2009, 06:42 PM
    Thanks for the info FairyFarmGirl! I have a crystal singing bowl but haven't sat with it in a while, so I will begin doing that again. The aromatherapy work sounds nice. Can you provide some more details about this work?

    Tim

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    05-21-2009, 09:15 PM
    (05-21-2009, 06:42 PM)thr33tim3 Wrote: Thanks for the info FairyFarmGirl! I have a crystal singing bowl but haven't sat with it in a while, so I will begin doing that again. The aromatherapy work sounds nice. Can you provide some more details about this work?

    Tim

    It is based on body chemistry. I would urge you to seek a qualified energy worker who has a working base of knowledge about plant essences and aromatherapy. Plant spirit medicine is a discipline that is very finetuned... Some plant essences you need very very little to have a therapeutic effect.

    For depression-- to gain insight on your behaviors (thoughts, feelings, beliefs, circular logic etc.) you may want to use essential oil of peppermint behind the ears--- one drop for behind both ears is all you need. This will assist you in distancing yourself from your emotions so you can reflect on them. Choose an essential oil that is pure--- organic and steam distilled... never ever use chemically distilled essential oils. You can also purchase the peppermint plant or gather it from the wild and gently rub it between your hands and sniff away... This also has an effect. Peppermint can keep you up at night... so use this when you wish to be awake and aware mentally.

    Do not use peppermint around young infants under the age of 1 year. It is too strong.

    Young Living essential oils are the best in the world. http://www.youngliving.us/ There should be a list of practioners and also resources available.

    Crystal bowls are a vibrational medicine. There are sound shamans that can assist you either through the youtube or in person. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1JlD7hqxfE This is first in a series that are of benefit.

    Also, a flourite point is of great assistance for rapid clearing of energies that do not serve you. Simply place the flourite point on your third eye and take a series of 3 deep breathes. This will assist you in gaining clarity as well. I recommend the book, "Micheal's Gemstone Dictionary" It was of great great assistance to me and my path... leading to agape and unity of Self and with the greater all... an assistance to understanding the Law of One.

    I wish you well.

    fairyfarmgirl

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    05-22-2009, 09:42 PM
    Dear Tim, you live in interesting circumstances. Hang in there.

    I'm also an all black kinda guy, at least I used to be, I pick greens and browns now. It helps people relate to me easier without considering me "A black hole" I've actually been called that..

    Don't take the next bits the wrong way. (Some do) It is my understanding that we are what we send out. And at the same time, we become what we receive. This type of loop easily creates an upward or downward spiral. I assume you're in a self enforced negative feedback loop. It's not easy breaking out of those. Certainly not by doing more of the same.

    Perhaps you should do something radical. All the meditating clearly didn't help you.And in my opinion living with the negativity of the new world order hurt you profoundly. It's not that you're doing it wrong or that you're not worthy or able. That's nonsense. Maybe you should try all other suggestions first if you must. If they succeed you're all done! If those do not succeed. Stop meditating and energy work and stop keeping an eye on the new world order for at least a month. The world isn't going to hell this month. And putting that weight on your shoulders is not a recipe for ascending. So screw the NWO. Let them worry about themselves for a change. I can guarantee they're already terrified for their own continued existence.

    In that time continue with what you need to survive, make the efforts, do the job. But take a vacation from "Raising your energy". It hasn't helped you one bit so far clearly. I'm thinking you might be emitting the "Spiritual guy in survival mode desperately trying to improve his setting but not succeeding" vibe. The universe is giving you this.

    So to answer your question "WHY?" : If it's not what you want. Why do you ask for it?

    I asked the same question once. WHY? I was depressed in a romance that wasn't working. And failing in my then academic setting. I got an answer, crystal clear. Why? Because you love it! That's why! We don't really love our misery but it can be so addictive we keep asking for more. I managed to rectify my situation by stating clearly that I did NOT enjoy this. And I decided to do things I did enjoy.

    By the way I don't know if this is any good to you but: Amazon is working on a record publishing solution. If you want to release your music you pay amazon a number of dollars and send them the music. Amazon then sells your music as a CD from their store. You keep 40% of the profits.. And no more action is required from you. No accounting no taxes no record deal negotiations. (Though I would recommend scheming your way into getting more people to know about it) It apparently takes only 9 sells to break even. I don't know the details or if it's a good idea or whatever you'll have to figure that out yourself. It might be an alternative if the indy label doesn't work out.

    I've heard the music you've so kindly shared. That's definitely good enough, I got really trippy on it. I never did hear the end of it (due to all the snoring). Only you should not call it "Deep relaxation session" call it: "Tokyo autumn rain". Write a little hype filled blurb about what binaural beats can do for a person. Add the glamor of spirituality to your album. People buy more than just bits of music, they buy a fantasy, they want that, and if you give it, then they will be satisfied. (As we say here, lick it till it shines) I'm a bit of a word smith. I'll gladly help if you want me to...

    But take a break from improving your life. And use the time to do something you enjoy! I don't know you well but music might very well do. Also make sure to enjoy the suns warm rays with a beer in your hand at least once. (She IS a power source and we often underestimate her effects)

    IF you manage to do what you enjoy and make enough to survive. THEN do more of the same...

    Namaste

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    05-22-2009, 10:25 PM (This post was last modified: 05-22-2009, 10:32 PM by thr33tim3.)
    (05-22-2009, 09:42 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Dear Tim, you live in interesting circumstances. Hang in there.

    I'm also an all black kinda guy, at least I used to be, I pick greens and browns now. It helps people relate to me easier without considering me "A black hole" I've actually been called that..

    Don't take the next bits the wrong way. (Some do) It is my understanding that we are what we send out. And at the same time, we become what we receive. This type of loop easily creates an upward or downward spiral. I assume you're in a self enforced negative feedback loop. It's not easy breaking out of those. Certainly not by doing more of the same.

    Perhaps you should do something radical. All the meditating clearly didn't help you.And in my opinion living with the negativity of the new world order hurt you profoundly. It's not that you're doing it wrong or that you're not worthy or able. That's nonsense. Maybe you should try all other suggestions first if you must. If they succeed you're all done! If those do not succeed. Stop meditating and energy work and stop keeping an eye on the new world order for at least a month. The world isn't going to hell this month. And putting that weight on your shoulders is not a recipe for ascending. So screw the NWO. Let them worry about themselves for a change. I can guarantee they're already terrified for their own continued existence.

    In that time continue with what you need to survive, make the efforts, do the job. But take a vacation from "Raising your energy". It hasn't helped you one bit so far clearly. I'm thinking you might be emitting the "Spiritual guy in survival mode desperately trying to improve his setting but not succeeding" vibe. The universe is giving you this.

    So to answer your question "WHY?" : If it's not what you want. Why do you ask for it?

    I asked the same question once. WHY? I was depressed in a romance that wasn't working. And failing in my then academic setting. I got an answer, crystal clear. Why? Because you love it! That's why! We don't really love our misery but it can be so addictive we keep asking for more. I managed to rectify my situation by stating clearly that I did NOT enjoy this. And I decided to do things I did enjoy.

    Hi Ali Q, thanks for your thoughtful response, you do have a lot of good ideas in your message. I stopped wearing all-black after highschool, actually after the Columbine thing because I had been wearing a black trench coat for several years and didn't want to start getting called "Columbine Boy" or something, you know? For the last few years I've really enjoyed finding organic and natural fibre clothes like hemp, bamboo and soy, I wear mainly earth tones and cool colors now.

    To be honest I don't really relate to the idea of sending out a vibration that I WANT to be in some sort of survival mode. I don't feel as though I "love" it at all, or feel comfortable in it. My depression feels like a baseline that i always return to, I'm either kinda high or kinda low (or really low). I think you are right about not focusing so much on the energy work, because yeah it frustrates me that I have put so much effort in, and I've read so many other peoples' accounts of "I did *such-and-such* and after that I was never depressed again, it was like magic!" that I wonder what is keeping me from having any sort of "break-through". I focus on the things I enjoy most of the time, but its like when there is a dull moment and I stop to think again, all the sadness is there, especially if I am looking back at my past in any way.

    I am recently trying some new techniques, and particularly focusing on silencing my thoughts... just DROPPING it, not thinking about things, silence.

    You're also right about the negativity of being aware of the NWO apparently hurting me, but again it wasn't like intentional that I became aware of them, I just started reading about it and became fascinated, and by the end of it I had learned so much that it was very overwhelming in terms of my day-to-day perception of the world. In the past couple years I have focused a LOT less on the negative conspiracy theories, but I also think it must have been important in some way for me to have been lead to the information I found.

    Finally, I am actually lucky in that I got a proper record deal with an independant label and signed a contract, so I have two full-length albums guaranteed through them, thus I won't have to be "self-releasing" my full-length albums. The Amazon thing does sound cool, and I will check it out. I enjoy making hand-painted 3" CDR EPs, and have just recently put a new one up for sale on my website.

    Anyway I won't go on too long here. Your post gave me a lot to think about and I appreciate it.

    Tim
    You know what it is? I DON'T feel like I'm asking for this at all! I have honestly felt that all of my efforts and meditation work have been an affirmation and ritualization of my intent and will, stating that I DO NOT want to be in survival mode, that I AM open to abundance and balance, and asking the Creator to guide me there.

    I really don't feel like I've "asked" for this, or "attracted" this situation at all, I just feel like I'm stuck in it. Hmm.

    Tim

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    05-23-2009, 07:21 AM
    Of course Tim, why would anyone invite suffering into their lives? Huh Still, what I claim has been my understanding for a few years now. If you keep pushing left, yet keep moving right. Perhaps pushing right will move you left? Explorative causality Smile You are the captain of your own ship, and that record deal sounds pretty sweet! It's probably much better than amazon Smile I know very little of those things. I wish you all the luck and blessings in this world. (And a few off world ones Smile )

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    Ali Quadir:

    Good Advice! I had to stop participating in viewing the NWO--- I found that it is like a virus that contaminates your mind and paralyzes the heart. I chose to turn away from inequity and found that in doing so they had no power but that which I gave them.

    Ali Quadir and Tim and Good Greetings All:

    The power of the Love and the Heart is immeasurable to that of fear.

    As for wearing all black. I am feeling so much at home here... a wanderers haven.... I used to wear all black. I look marvelous in black and it is a very servicable color... and then I met my husband who paints the world with bold colors and revels in choices... he insisted I wear grey and brown. Cajoled me to try it... And I found that that I was a little cystalized to color. LOL So I devised a sort of schedule based on the old names for the planets and the Sun and our Moon based on the Western Calender day names: Sunday (Sun colors), Monday (Moon colors), Tuesda(Mars colors), Wednesday (Mercury colors), Thursday(Jupiter or colors of abundance), Friday(Venus Colors or colors associated with Love and the ahem you know... ), Saturday (my favorite day! Saturn colors--- all the blacks and their many hues).

    This was my way of overcoming the habit of wearing the same color and style of clothing. My husband thought for such an interesting person I looked so boring. He called me a White headed Crow with Red hair. LOL which when said with all the LOVE in his heart was very funny and shook up things in my little world and all the cajoling led me to consider other ways of doing things. Although I must confess the idea of dressing in the colors of the planets and Sun and Moon of our lovely and ascending Solar System was not mine alone. The wisdom therein came from A Witches Guide to Life, Kala Trobe I lean toward the pagan way of life... in that I do not follow any "Book religions" to the T. I have studied them extensively including the Koran and the Torah... I find all three are more alike than different... An the extremism seen in each religion matches not the words of wisdom found therein the "book" they are supposed to be following. I actually found the Koran to be the most liberal of the 3 books concerning the rights of women... so the disconnect must be from some other factor perhaps tribal traditions and culture and interference from the fallen ones.

    So Aside from my digressions--- I follow a pattern of color and find that the colors bring new ideas and ways of considering and interacting with my world... and when I organize my closet (it always starts out organized and then... well disorder sets in LOL) The clothes form a beautiful array of the many colors and hews of this solar system...

    fairyfarmgirl

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    06-05-2009, 12:05 AM
    Hi Tim,

    I, too, went thru a period of despair and depression over all the conspiracy and "NWO" material out there. What made it worse was not being able to share my thoughts with family and friends for fear of sounding crazy, as well as potentially instilling fears in them too. I had never felt more alone in my entire life.

    But at the same time, I knew there had to be some way of making sense of all this non-sense, and as "luck" would have it I came across the Ra Material. Thru these teachings I realized that my fears and depression were due to my non-acceptance of the fact that such things could exist in this world. So I accepted it, smiled, and then began my journey into faith...

    All before us in this world is illusion, including the "NWO". Your depression and fear is the ultimate gift the Creator has given you. It is there to confound you and challenge you. It will force you to rely on simple faith, faith that there is a reason and a plan to all that is happening. But you cannot fight the "NWO" - you must transcend it. It is a catalyst to propel you to new spiritual heights. And remember, your thoughts can create powerful manifestations, both positive and negative, so always keep love in your heart and your thoughts.

    As far as your troubles with meditation, try not to worry about it - how well you meditate is less important than making the commitment to do it regularly. Your commitment is what creates the true "magic" - the returning to meditation, again and again, despite the obstacles, forges your inner strength.

    And finally, as far as finding your "purpose" in life, the Ra Material talks about the importance of simply "being" - letting the love and light of the Creator flow thru you and out to the world. The trick is getting out of its way. The "purpose" of life then becomes being the clearest channel for that love. For what else is true "success" in life?

    Don't be disheartened, Tim, just keep seeking. All the keys and tools to your spiritual growth are already inside you - just be patient and stay on the path...

    Love and light,

    c_s

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    06-22-2009, 06:52 PM
    Thank you Cheyenne Sky and everyone else for your encouragement and just for giving me a place to express myself. I've been very busy in the past few weeks and realized I hadn't posted here in a while. I have started reading the Ra Material again and nearly finished with the first volume, so I will probably have more to contribute soon. Smile
    T

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    06-22-2009, 07:35 PM
    Interesting thread.

    Have you heard of the Law of Attraction thr33tim3?
    I watched a film called 'The Secret' a few years ago and I found it profound. If you are having trouble relating to creating your own reality, then this should hopefully help.

    For doing all the actions but still feeling down, I have understood the solution to be reverse the problem. As is part of the LoA(law of attraction) if you want to gain improvement in your life, you must first feel better. It is the forcing yourself to think positively that makes these things work.

    A good example is if you feel bad, or negative, you are not in alignment with what you want. If you are happy, positive then you are. You need just carry on down that road a litle further before your fruits appear.

    As you can see I don't think there is any use in prolonged negativity. We can learn from it but when we have learnt enough we must stop. The purpose of feeling down is so we personally can learn from it. Nothing else. Justifying your sadness would be a very damaging thing to do.

    Sorry for stating my thoughts so bluntly, I figure I wouldent be able to fluff it out into gentle words. You can probably take it though :p The above works for me, but of course we are different people so this is just my personal take on the situation.

    I don't mean to take a tone of 'Your doing it wrong' but between the mojority of my friends that ask me to teach them to meditate it is these thoughts they uasually bump into. I can't do it. It's not working. Is it working? As again above, you must first feel it, then do the actions holding onto your feelings.

    I hope I make sence, and I hope I have not offended.

    Love, Light and Luck.

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    07-02-2009, 02:07 AM (This post was last modified: 07-02-2009, 03:01 AM by thr33tim3.)
    Hello Sirius

    Quote:Have you heard of the Law of Attraction thr33tim3?
    I watched a film called 'The Secret' a few years ago and I found it profound. If you are having trouble relating to creating your own reality, then this should hopefully help.

    For doing all the actions but still feeling down, I have understood the solution to be reverse the problem. As is part of the LoA(law of attraction) if you want to gain improvement in your life, you must first feel better. It is the forcing yourself to think positively that makes these things work.

    I've been aware of the Law of Attraction for many years. I have understood the concept of needing to feel as an emotional connection to what you are intending to manifest. In fact, I wrote my masters thesis on using sound for healing, and made many of my own positive affirmation meditation recordings, which I still use today. However, I do not feel as though I've ever been able to force myself to "think positively" as you say. I have dealt with sadness and depression for as long as I can remember, since at least age 8/fourth grade. Even now I find myself in a deep depression that has lasted over a week, and I feel unable to "think" myself out of it. During my meditation time I feel peace and calm, but when I return to "real life", the sadness is there and it permeates me. It is also there when I wake up. I have often tried to force myself to think positively during these times, but it feels essentially ineffective.

    As I said in my original post, I have been meditating semi-regularly for over a decade, and have been practicing "energy healing" techniques since about '02-'03. When I find myself experiencing this deep feeling of depression, in spite of all my efforts over the years, I feel like a failure, and it only compounds my emotional agony.

    Quote:A good example is if you feel bad, or negative, you are not in alignment with what you want. If you are happy, positive then you are. You need just carry on down that road a litle further before your fruits appear.

    As I said, I have felt bad, or negative, since at least age 8. I am now 29. I most definitely do not feel in alignment with what I want, in many aspects of my material life. I have not felt in alignment with what I want since as early as i can recall, beginning with being forced to go to public school where I was constantly picked on.

    Quote:As you can see I don't think there is any use in prolonged negativity. We can learn from it but when we have learnt enough we must stop. The purpose of feeling down is so we personally can learn from it. Nothing else. Justifying your sadness would be a very damaging thing to do.

    I agree, but feel unable to force myself to not feel sad. I honestly feel as though I have reached the end of my efforts, that without some sort of outside assistance, I genuinely don't know what to do with myself. Yet I have no one in my "real life" to talk to, I can only communicate via text on the internet, which honestly has been of questionable assistance.

    Quote:I don't mean to take a tone of 'Your doing it wrong' but between the mojority of my friends that ask me to teach them to meditate it is these thoughts they uasually bump into. I can't do it. It's not working. Is it working? As again above, you must first feel it, then do the actions holding onto your feelings.

    This idea makes sense, but feels entirely alien to my experience. Essentially, every time I have meditated or done energy work over the past six years, I have put myself into a state of mind in which I overcome my emotions, find calm and peace inside myself, and visualize myself being healed, opening to my higher self, infusing with light, balancing my chakras, etc etc etc. I do this whole-heartedly, and without specific expectation. However, as I've described, my feelings of sadness never seem to leave me, and my personal life is basically in a shambles in the sense that I have almost no friends and am stuck in a dead-end, low-paying job in the middle of nowhere.

    I am still working through the Ra material, and while I feel compelled to read it, I find myself feeling very frustrated, as the essential understanding of how to escape this feeling of sorrow continues to elude me. Lately I feel as though all of my energy is being drained away by my sadness, and I worry that I will eventually be unable to work, or succumb to some sort of illness, simply because I have been unable to understand my emotional pain and somehow overcome it.

    I appreciate having this forum to post to, but I feel as though I've written this post over and over on different forums over the years, and here I am again.

    Tim
    This quote from the Ra material struck me earlier and I thought i may as well share it here:

    Quote:Questioner: I am assuming that it is not necessary for an individual to
    understand the Law of One to go from the third to the fourth density. Is
    this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. It is absolutely necessary that an entity consciously realize it
    does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. Understanding is not
    of this density.

    In a way, I can relate very strongly to this, in the sense that I have struggled for so long to "understand", and still feel myself to be deeply confused. Yet I acknowledge and realize that it is only because I do have such deep faith in the truth of what I have learned, that I am able to continue to go forward each day. As I said, I'm able to experience this state of peace, of not needing to understand, during my meditation times. What frustrates me so deeply is the material situations that loom over my head each day, such as having bills and rent to pay and having only barely enough money to cover them. Existentially I feel a peace, I guess I am just feeling very uncomfortable in this 3rd density..
    T

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    07-03-2009, 06:01 PM (This post was last modified: 07-03-2009, 06:02 PM by Sirius.)
    The quote you posted almost takes the pressure off a little doesent it?

    From what I have learn tfrom the Law of One as a whole is that there is only so much we can learn here. This planet is one step from the staircase, and then afterwards when your on the next step you may begin to take your thoughts to higher levels but essentially when you are 'fully enlightened' you are God consciousness, part of the infinate oneness.

    With the way the world works here I personally feel it is cruel to expect one to reach oneness from such a stance here. The way we have to believe in ourselves, and find our faiths. There must be a point where our faiths become more of a reality.

    Our realities must evolve towards oneness, weather it is a progressive curve, or a staircase if you can accept the analogy in terms of graph lines.

    May I be one of many to tell you that your not alone in finding this place far from paradise. Some of us just feel this to different degrees personally.

    Just an odd thought, how about doing energy work in regards to your aura? You say you feel sad as you come out of meditation, maybe you could conciously use your aura to block these feelings. From the perspective that they are coming from outside of yourself and not from within.

    Wandering is certainly a lonely path in a sence. But such a path makes it infinately more valuble when you find somebody else on a similar one to yourself (this forum!).

    I wish you the best,

    Love and Light

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    08-03-2009, 09:02 PM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2009, 09:31 PM by Barbara1.)
    Thr33Tim3

    Quote:So often I ask WHY? WHY would I choose to be a brother of sorrow for petesake? Why not a "brother of happy parties and fun times"?? Is all this suffering SO necessary? Apparently it is, but I wonder WHY.

    No offense Tim, but I actually bust out laughing there because I can certainly relate to that ,as I think that most people can. Maybe the reason you are here is to be YOU.
    And maybe all the meditation in the world won't help you to be you. Maybe accept yourself for the way you are, with the depression, the talent, the funny quirks, the intelligence, and the love in your heart.

    Who else are you going to be?
    You will take the steps forward as they come, as you already are, so let up on yourself a little and appreciate yourself for the way you HAVE reached out, made progress, shared love. But my oh my, you are right, there is a lot of strangenss in the world. People get trapped inside themselves, inside their beliefs and ideas (distortions) and it can be daunting when trying to find like minds/hearts. Truly, maybe you are a stranger in a strange land (wanderer).

    Also consider doing 1 thing you really enjoy each day, and commit to spending that time enjoying yourself and the thing you have planned. You have exposed yourself to very much information (half of which I've read), and most of it (especially the conspiracy NWO stuff) is extremely negative. I myself decided to give that stuff a rest as well-it can be truly addicting and exciting, but also very depressing and , well, I don't know the word- but something like "take the wind out of your sails" .

    Congratulations on your music deal! That is quite an accomplishment, and i mean that!
    I know it sounds funny, Tim, but you are really special, and have touched my heart. I hope this post did not come off as trite, as I certainly do not mean it that way. Bless you Tim, and I sincerely wish you the best.



    Barbara1 Smile

    ETA: Here's how a friend at another forum, who is extremly well versed in the Ra material , puts it- I hope she will not mind me posting this here.

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    We came here to be human, not super human or to live with our mind in the higher realms. We came here to experience life under very difficult situations and to grapple with things we could not grapple with out of the body like infirmities, deformities, old age, being compared to one another, misunderstandings, runaway emotions, appetites, senses, hum drum jobs, doing chores, apathy, aches and pains, broken hearts, separation from God, separation from the knowledge and feeling of oneness, and despite all that, to bring that spark of home to earth within each of us and open our hearts to one another.

    It's all experience.

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    08-03-2009, 10:06 PM
    Hi Barbara,

    I enjoyed your message, thank you! Its funny, about an hour ago I felt compelled to check in on this forum, as I have been very busy with classwork recently so its been a couple weeks. And suddenly there is a response in my thread after a whole month!

    I actually really agree with your sentiments, and basically this is how I feel when I do have the perspective to not be so "hard on myself". Also I'm glad you busted out laughing because that part of my message you quoted really was meant to be light-hearted and sort of comically exasperated.

    Still I find my mood is just UP and DOWN over the past month. For a while I was feeling good, then I got into a really deep funk that I just felt like I couldn't psych myself out of, I kept having sad dreams, waking up sad. Then it sort of cleared up, and I was really productive working on music. Then another funk about two weeks ago, and then for the last week I've been feeling pretty stable and doing a lot of creative work, but I find myself slightly stressing about NWO/conspiracy stuff lately which I hadn't been focusing on much this year. I actually still am doing the meditation (without trying to put pressure on myself to achieve anything), as it is actually a time when I do feel a really deep calm, and am able to still my thoughts. Its a relief! I also have the same experience when I am in the creative flow, so I feel good to work on music, or cook a new recipe, or do some painting. The hard part is when I have some down time, which is pretty frequent to be honest, and suddenly I'll feel DEEPLY bored and restless and sad, etc. It also is obviously connected to my blood sugar levels, and I have started taking some supplements everyday including green superfood powder, maca, sprouted flax seeds, and cod liver oil. If nothing else, it has helped with my appetite levels a lot so I have less tendency to crash.

    I have a sign on my wall that reminds me to FORGIVE whenever I see it, and I also was recently suggested to try adopting the mindset of waking up each day and asking "what miracle will this day bring?" and then watch. While nothing HUGE has happened, I do notice a lot of "tiny miracles" happening at least once a day, so it seems like a nice technique, it was channeled from Cosmic Awareness recently.

    Thanks again for your comments and the quote from your friend
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    12-29-2011, 06:31 PM
    (05-20-2009, 06:23 PM)thr33tim3 Wrote: Gradually, in college, I became exposed to more metaphysical writings and books about psychedelic experience by folks like Tim Leary, John Lilly and Terence Mckenna. I read feverishly about "altered states" and out-of-body experiences, and although I wanted to experiment with some drugs, I didn't have any friends who could get me any, so I mostly just read about it. Over time, this reading led me to Daniel Pinchbeck's online forum in '02, where people discussed topics including psychedelics, but also branching into issues like conspiracy theories, 2012, metaphysics (he was a big fan of Rudolph Steiner). One name I saw discussed several times (and usually ridiculed) was David Icke, so I checked out his "Biggest Secret" book, which really blew my mind and got me thinking about a lot more "far out" issues. I began reading as many of the books he'd reference in his bibliographies as I could find, so I got heavily into conspiracy theories as well as channeling and stuff about UFOs.

    Between '02 and '05 I devoured probably hundreds of books on these subjects, spending a lot of time with The Seth Material, The Ra Material, Cosmic Awareness, Messages From Matthew, Amitakh Stanford's material, Fritz Springmeier's books and lots of research on government mind control, MKULTRA and that sort of thing. I filled my living space with pieces of orgonite and crystals, burned sage, did lots of visualization and affirmation work from the books I was reading, and spent a lot of time doing "information activism" of sharing books and posting info on forums on the web. In a lot of ways, my life became totally different from how it was previously, and I became much less concerned with issues like "social popularity" or "fitting in", when I had realized that our world was in tremendous peril and under the control of Luciferian and Satanic groups being guided by extra-dimensional negative forces. Oi vey!

    I tried my best to share books and information with my friends and people I'd meet, but had pretty depressing experiences with all of it. Most people thought I was nuts for even reading this sort of material, and I ended up getting called a "space cadet" more than once, while most kids my age debated over whether the republican or democratic party was the best choice, etc. I was able to start my first relationship with a woman, which at age 23 I felt like a pretty huge loser for never having had a serious girlfriend, and was hugely relieved when I found I could share my thoughts with her and she was actually open and interested. We ended up doing a tremendous amount of reading and discussing of material together. She also suffered from a lot of depression/bipolar as well, and our relationship gradually became very dysfunctional, with a lot of arguments over nothing. That is getting ahead of myself though.

    After we graduated from college, we lived in the Bay Area for about a year and a half, but had a tremendously difficult time finding work. She got a couple of coffee shop jobs that paid like $8/hr, and I found a part-time job in a dance record warehouse, and later a book warehouse. The commute was insane, the pollution was really bad (air/water/noise, you name it), we had gunfire next door more than once, and the rent for a tiny 1BD apartment was ridiculous. By this time, we had been reading conspiracy theory material for several years, and were genuinely very concerned that MARTIAL LAW was looming on the horizon at any moment, with lots of websites posting predictions that "next month is gonna be a huge event" or "its all going to go down this Fall!" etc etc. Well, obviously the predictions were BS, and in retrospect I can see that people have been predicting martial law regularly since at least the '80s. But at the time, we felt the best thing was to get OUT of the city and look for community. Especially having read George Green's Handbook For The New Paradigm series, which talks specifically about the important of find "like-minded spiritual community" and establishing a new society based on such, this seemed very important to us, as well as the logical "next step".

    Existentially I feel very unhappy. I frequently wonder WHY I would have chosen to incarnate in such a life. I have done past-life regressions in which I also got in touch with a couple of previous lives, both of which were extremely depressing and lonely as well. This world seems to be full of suffering that is mainly the fault of the higher beings in positions of power forcing their will on beings who are not even aware enough to defend themselves. I wonder what sort of effect I truly intended to have on this earth, as my life has been one of constant disappointment and alienation. I do not write this asking for sympathy, rather I genuinely wonder what I can do about this. I still meditate almost every day, do info activism regularly, do my best to share information with friends and acquaintances. The Ra Material, along with the Cosmic Awareness material, has stayed strong with me throughout these years, while other sources of information have come and gone from my focus. I am happy to find a forum where we can discuss these issues, and I hope I'll have something valuable to input. I wonder why my "soul" would have chosen this experience of intense emotional suffering, on such a distorted, degraded planet. I mainly just desire to leave, to be done with it all, to return to my spiritual source and NEVER have anything to do with the planet Earth again. The suffering has already been so intense, I really wonder how I can ever feel as though it was "worth it". This world seems to be EXTREMELY messed up, which suggests to me that something is very wrong with consciousness in this universe. I especially feel a great deal of compassion and heartache for the victims of satanic ritual abuse and mind control, which most new agers are completely oblivious to, and get upset when I bring it up. I could go on and on but I'll stop.

    thanks Tim for sharing your story. Much gratitude for the heart-burning honesty contained within.

    if I can make the observation, and I do so with great care and trepidation, I think most of us here on these forums have passed through the 'outward seeking' phase of our life. It is when we fill ourselves with information about all the topics that are 'non-stream' ... we become aware of nefarious forces in our government and politics, we see the iron boot of the banking system. We 'inform ourselves' of the true working conditions on this planet; not the bowdlerised and edited version that is seen on the evening news.

    the next step then is ...

    ....

    nowhere.

    there is 'nowhere' to step to. We just shift the light of our seeking from the outside world into the inner one; we become aware that we are the inner Creator, and that we have ultimate power in the working sphere of our lives. Every interaction we have with another individual, everytime we speak to our friends or family, everytime we have a thought, there is an opportunity there to create unity and joy.

    The focus shifts from what is 'wrong' and 'broken' to what can be enlivened and quickened.

    I have been where you are (as have most of us I dare say) and its not easy to hear these words.

    best of luck on your journey; these words reach out energetically to you, even though you may not see them in print (Tim's last login was more than a year ago, going by his profile).

    peace


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    12-29-2011, 07:45 PM (This post was last modified: 12-29-2011, 07:46 PM by Diana.)
    Tim, thank you for your honest and open story.

    In many ways my life has been very similar. I have been fortunate enough to keep depression at bay. I completely identify with your questions about why choose this planet, all this suffering on it, etc. In my most vulnerable moments, I spiral down into that pit. Something triggers it such as an injustice: animal cruelty or human starvation, which comes to me inadvertently as I do not watch TV or expose myself to anything which triggers my spiral down.

    I have found no answers but to control my environment and stay focused on my purpose, with a "warrior spirit." Warrior not in the sense of fighting, but in the sense that it takes courage and strength. My purpose changes. But the purpose is STO in some way which I do as a business.

    I echo Plenum's wish that these words reach you energetically. You are not alone in your troubles.

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