(09-10-2012, 02:10 PM)Cyan Wrote: Edit: I'm working on the theory that most 4th D positives will initially seek to build "the perfect harmonic society" and realise just how pointlessly easy it is and very VERY quickly turn politics into a kind of debate about which method of providing toiletpaper for the hospitals is better for the microseconds of better delivery time that one alternative over another will provide.
Cyan, I think that is pretty insightful. Probably one of the very reasons why the Logos had to thicken the veil so much so as to force 3D entities into making a choice. It is amazing how the most powerful decisions of the guardians and the octave keepers is so much in alignment with just pure and simple commonsense, while we would like to mystify and make it appear extremely complex (just my opinion). In line with your theory, I think the following quote serves as supporting testimony, though in a different context.
Quote:77.17 Questioner: Would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, positive polarity. There was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function of only the positive polarization evolving from the original creation of our sub-Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true-color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.
Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.
Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.
(09-10-2012, 01:48 PM)Ruth Wrote: I think y'all will know what I was trying to respond to, right?
Of course, dear Ruth!