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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Second-Density Love

    Thread: Second-Density Love


    Ens Entium (Offline)

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    #1
    02-05-2011, 06:55 PM (This post was last modified: 02-05-2011, 06:57 PM by Ens Entium.)
    This intrigues me

    Quote:43.31 Questioner: I was really trying to get at whether it would be of great importance to construct a better place for our meditations. We have distractions here of the types which I mentioned, and I know that it is a function of our total free will as to whether we construct this or not, but I was trying to get at the principles behind and the relative importance of the Faraday cage. It would be quite a construction and I was wondering if it would be of any real value?

    Ra: I am Ra. Without infringing upon free will we feel it possible to state that the Faraday cage and the isolation tank are gadgets.

    The surrounding of self in a sylvan atmosphere, apart from distractions, in a place of working used for no other purpose, in which you and your associates agree to lay aside all goals but that of the meditative seeking of the Infinite Creator is, shall we say, not gadgetry but the making use of the creation of the Father in second-density love, and in the love and support of otherselves. Are there any brief queries before this working is at an end?

    second-density love..??

    What do you think Ra meant by this?

    Any comments/answers are appreciated.
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    02-05-2011, 07:01 PM
    Hmm..well I looked up what sylvan atmosphere means. It means to be surrounded by trees.

    Perhaps being surrounded by the second density trees which provide a space of comfort and tranquility is what Ra was getting at?
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    02-05-2011, 07:25 PM
    (02-05-2011, 07:01 PM)Derek ~ Wrote: Hmm..well I looked up what sylvan atmosphere means. It means to be surrounded by trees.

    Perhaps being surrounded by the second density trees which provide a space of comfort and tranquility is what Ra was getting at?

    Meaning that the atmosphere that the trees provide is a second density act of love? Could one say acts of service is third density love?

    The thing is that the quote by Ra seems to say that it's the person that is 'doing' the second density 'loving'.

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    02-05-2011, 07:39 PM
    There are three types of second-density entities capable of giving and recieving love.

    Quote:19.2 Questioner: Let’s take the point at which an individualized entity of second density is ready for transition to third. Is this second-density being what we would call animal?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are three types of second-density entities which become, shall we say, enspirited. The first is the animal. This is the most predominant. The second is the vegetable, most especially that which you call, sound vibration complex, “tree.” These entities are capable of giving and receiving enough love to become individualized. The third is mineral. Occasionally a certain location/place, as you may call it, becomes energized to individuality through the love it receives and gives in relationship to a third-density entity which is in relationship to it. This is the least common transition.

    When you love and care for second-density entities, they are aware of this service and return it.

    Quote:95.11 Questioner: I am assuming that the newly chosen place meets the parameters for the best contact with Ra on the exterior of the house and I would like to ask Ra at this time if there are any suggestions with respect to the exterior of the house?

    Ra: I am Ra. The dwelling seems surrounded with the trees and fields of your countryside. This is acceptable. We suggest the general principle of preparing each part of your environment as it best suits each in the group with the beauty which each may feel to be appropriate. There is much of blessing in the gardening and the care of surroundings, for when this is accomplished in love of the creation the second-density flowers, plants, and small animals are aware of this service and return it.

    When the giving and receiving of love has allowed a second-density entity to become individualised and self-aware it becomes third-density harvestable.

    Quote:14.1 Questioner: After going over this morning’s work, I thought it might be helpful to fill in a few things. You said that the second density strives towards the third density which is the density of self-consciousness, or self-awareness. The striving takes place through higher second-density forms being invested by third-density beings. Could you explain what you mean by this?

    Ra: I am Ra. Much as you would put on a vestment, so do your third-density beings invest or clothe some second-density beings with self-awareness. This is often done through the opportunity of what you call pets. It has also been done by various other means of investiture. These include many so-called religious practice complexes which personify and send love to various natural second-density beings in their group form.

    Since its all love and light, the difference between second density or third density love would be in its intensity.
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    02-05-2011, 07:55 PM
    Good quotes Spero. Yes, the atmosphere that they provide being a second density act of service..much like they provide a home for a squirrel or whatever.

    I like to deconstruct sentences: The surrounding of self in a sylvan atmosphere..is..making use of the creation of the Father in second-density love.

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    02-05-2011, 08:31 PM
    you should give much more importance to the trees. nonmoving + moving, tree and the monkey. fruit and the fruit eater. these two seems to be devised as a symbiont system.

    basically a tree, as an entity, is a generator, enabler of all life. it generates the materials that are needed for life, not only for itself, but also for others. this concept is basically similar to being a source.
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    02-11-2011, 04:57 PM
    (02-05-2011, 08:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: basically a tree, as an entity, is a generator, enabler of all life. it generates the materials that are needed for life, not only for itself, but also for others. this concept is basically similar to being a source.

    Supplying with unconditional love, an act much similar to creation itself. Very moving. I'm going to go hug my tree now.BigSmile
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    02-11-2011, 05:58 PM
    Seems to make sense that, if people are among trees and they notice and say how great it feels to be there, the trees would likely feed back to them.

    Nice thread! Heart

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    02-12-2011, 07:17 AM (This post was last modified: 02-12-2011, 07:45 AM by Ens Entium.)
    (02-11-2011, 04:57 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:
    (02-05-2011, 08:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: basically a tree, as an entity, is a generator, enabler of all life. it generates the materials that are needed for life, not only for itself, but also for others. this concept is basically similar to being a source.

    Supplying with unconditional love, an act much similar to creation itself. Very moving. I'm going to go hug my tree now.BigSmile

    (02-11-2011, 05:58 PM)kycahi Wrote: Seems to make sense that, if people are among trees and they notice and say how great it feels to be there, the trees would likely feed back to them.

    Nice thread! Heart

    Thinking about this i notice that there's a certain purity in this second-density. I hope my intended meaning is getting across, i dont mean to say that third density is insincere or impure, i just mean to say that there's a unique quality of authenticity there.
    I guess it's that their very nature is a gesture of love. Smile, it's beautiful i think. Their nature is love; appears to be especially true of the trees.

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    02-12-2011, 08:43 AM
    I posted this thread looking to distinguish more about 2D love, so that i could better understand, by forming a more general concept, what it means to love, to be in love, and to be a being of love. I'm getting some of the way there, so thanks to all. Smile

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    02-12-2011, 11:44 AM
    I apologize for my vague recollection of this. Is it in the Ra Material (any volume)? Don Elkins had the idea that the UFO contactee Charlie Hixson incarnated from a different planet, and on it he was a tree. If I recall more, his purpose on being here was to live as a human animal and later transfer the experience info on what that was like to the UFO.

    Because most plants differ from animals in the fundamental way that they are stuck in one place, I can imagine that they learn to get along or else argue endlessly. This could give them STO tendency. When animals including people happen along, they probably rejoice in the variety and, when possible, exchange with them on some level(s).

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    02-12-2011, 11:53 AM
    (02-12-2011, 11:44 AM)kycahi Wrote: I apologize for my vague recollection of this. Is it in the Ra Material (any volume)? Don Elkins had the idea that the UFO contactee Charlie Hixson incarnated from a different planet, and on it he was a tree. If I recall more, his purpose on being here was to live as a human animal and later transfer the experience info on what that was like to the UFO.

    hixson was not from that planet but the event was arranged pre-incarnation.

    Quote:Because most plants differ from animals in the fundamental way that they are stuck in one place, I can imagine that they learn to get along or else argue endlessly. This could give them STO tendency. When animals including people happen along, they probably rejoice in the variety and, when possible, exchange with them on some level(s).

    entities constantly in meditative state have a higher ability to be able to reach out to existence in thought, and feel and interact with other entities in feeling and thought.

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    02-27-2011, 10:34 AM
    so, what happens to my kitty when he is harvested? as his mommy i feel worried about his upcoming 3d life since it can be hard. should i worry?

    how does my treatment of him affect his future lives? i didn't realize i was affecting a new 3d life! huge responsibility. pets are anyway but this puts a new spin on it. i don't want to spoil him rotten or mess up or something and make his next life miserable.

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    02-27-2011, 11:57 AM (This post was last modified: 02-27-2011, 11:58 AM by Confused.)
    (02-12-2011, 07:17 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: Thinking about this i notice that there's a certain purity in this second-density. I hope my intended meaning is getting across, i dont mean to say that third density is insincere or impure, i just mean to say that there's a unique quality of authenticity there.

    May be related to the nature of evolution in which 'self-consciousness' is cemented in third density.
    (02-27-2011, 10:34 AM)Ocean Wrote: so, what happens to my kitty when he is harvested? as his mommy i feel worried about his upcoming 3d life since it can be hard. should i worry?

    how does my treatment of him affect his future lives? i didn't realize i was affecting a new 3d life! huge responsibility. pets are anyway but this puts a new spin on it. i don't want to spoil him rotten or mess up or something and make his next life miserable.

    Excellent thought.

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    02-27-2011, 12:34 PM
    (02-27-2011, 10:34 AM)Ocean Wrote: so, what happens to my kitty when he is harvested? as his mommy i feel worried about his upcoming 3d life since it can be hard. should i worry?

    how does my treatment of him affect his future lives? i didn't realize i was affecting a new 3d life! huge responsibility. pets are anyway but this puts a new spin on it. i don't want to spoil him rotten or mess up or something and make his next life miserable.

    On behalf of your pet, thank you for your concern. IMHO, worry is not a productive action in any context. Here, you give kitty unconditional love, which can't be a mistake. You set an example for her/him to emulate with other creatures now and to benefit a future existence. You represent the One's unconditional love of all which is because the One is all.

    I think that human behavior with a pet can be improved, whether it's being mean or spoiling rotten. So be a good example of good love and expect kitty to return it as able, but avoid the behavioral conditioning that spoiling rotten implies. And again, no worries. Heart

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    02-27-2011, 06:04 PM
    thanks. i shouldn't worry. and i don't worry that much, i just overthink things.

    i guess it's like any parenting, you make mistakes, you worry, you think i'm just like i said i wouldn't be when i have kids, which is imperfect. but i just gotta do my best, that's all i can do. Smile

    but it is intriguing to think what will become of my pet. today i thought about this and hugged a tree. Tongue hehehe people think i'm crazy.

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    02-27-2011, 06:08 PM
    (02-27-2011, 06:04 PM)Ocean Wrote: thanks. i shouldn't worry. and i don't worry that much, i just overthink things.

    i guess it's like any parenting, you make mistakes, you worry, you think i'm just like i said i wouldn't be when i have kids, which is imperfect. but i just gotta do my best, that's all i can do. Smile

    but it is intriguing to think what will become of my pet. today i thought about this and hugged a tree. Tongue hehehe people think i'm crazy.

    I like your analogy of being equivalent to a parent.

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    02-27-2011, 06:18 PM
    pets are like perpetual kids.

    do you think pets can reincarnate to the same person? am i going off topic? maybe i should start a thread.

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    02-27-2011, 06:52 PM
    (02-27-2011, 06:18 PM)Ocean Wrote: do you think pets can reincarnate to the same person? am i going off topic? maybe i should start a thread.

    Going by the LOO, it is very much within the realms of possibility, but based on the strengthening freewill of the pet (I think). The following exchanges from the LOO may provide evident in that direction -

    Quote:104.10 Questioner: I feel very bad about the condition of the cat and really would like to help it. Can Ra suggest anything that we can do to help out Gandalf?

    Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

    104.11 Questioner: What would that be?

    Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we would suggest that possibility/probability vortices include those in which the entity known as Gandalf has a lengthier incarnation. Secondly, we would suggest that this entity goes to a graduation if it desires. Otherwise, it may choose to reincarnate to be with those companions it has loved. Thirdly, the entity known to you as Betty has the means of making the entity more distorted towards comfort/discomfort.

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    02-27-2011, 07:03 PM
    thanks for the quote.

    that thing about Betty is interesting. as if we can mold these pets toward something.

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    02-27-2011, 11:45 PM
    Everytime I see the title of this discussion I hear "Muskrat Love" in my head. "...And they whirl and they twirl and they tango...". Captain and Tennille, gotta love 'em.

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    02-28-2011, 01:00 AM
    haha! that's hilarious.

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