I don't want to cite any post in particular, because of the division this subject matter generates, not only here, but as everyone knows, in the world. I have more questions than anything, so I will try to unravel my thoughts.
I get the idea that the vaccine's efficacy and safety may derive from one's belief system or "faith," or intention to create reality. This is even supported empirically in the placebo effect. So as far as that goes, the decision to take a vaccine being the individual's choice makes perfect sense.
I think it's more complicated than that however.
I can see how some wanderers just come here to love and accept everything, and spread that light. But where this intersects with the vaccine is respect for the chemical body one has while here, and the ramifications of how that spreads to the world one has come here to help. If an individual is an adept and can override any chemical additions to the body if harmful (like Paul and Jessica did in Dune) then if there is a reason to do so, great. If someone here can do that, great. But I don't personally find any good reasons to do so, and please correct me if anyone disagrees.
If a wanderer (I'll just say wanderer rather than a list of seekers and interested members here) takes this vaccine, I think this decision may reflect on the following ideas:
As a visitor here, in lightening the load of planetary distress (paraphrasing Ra), what you do is seen, and whether or not intended to be, is an example of how to behave and respond to catalyst and planetary input, unless you are an absolute hermit. This is not a simple concept. In an attempt however weak to articulate what I am thinking, if you are visiting a kindergarten class as an adult, would you expect the 5-year-olds to understand fractal geometry and how that relates to life in the universe? This would be an analogy to exemplifying the transient nature of 3D, creating your own reality through the mind and intelligent energy, and overriding or creating the effect of a chemical vaccine in the chemical body. So if in being here, you are able to do this—override the physical conditions of a physical existence (not to dismiss the other aspects of mind and spirit, just to include this aspect), my question would be, why—why would you do this in the current environment of a controversial, gain-of-function, lab-created virus, and EU vaccines being pushed before the long-term effects are known or for that matter the immediate effects admitted to?
Some ramifications of doing this may include: sending the wrong message (even if there is no intent to send a a message) to others (because they aren't capable of comprehending what you are doing), and ignoring other aspects of human community here including the right to free thinking and choice (by complying with censorship, coercion, and obvious corruption). We can argue the possible harm and corruption, but some of it is patently obvious (I will cite one nonsensical example, that of using Remdesivir, the hospital protocol for Covid treatment, which was banned from use in Africa because it killed half (approximately) of those it was administered to, and then resurrected for use now—and forced in the hospital setting—even though there are other options).
Complying with the status quo doesn't make sense to me unless that is the platform from which to stand here in 3D. I, like others here, even though I comprehend the ideas of acceptance and creating reality through mind and a bigger picture than just this life, also think what I do here has meaning beyond myself. Even though I accept that others make their own decisions and maybe incarnated into harm's way, into dictatorships and other heavy-handed or corruptly governed countries, I don't see the sense of just going along with it all. This may be because I am not advanced enough to see the efficacy of ignoring physical existence as it is here (not being the same thing as not getting caught up in the maelstrom) in favor of the larger reality which we actually can't know due to the veil. This is where some may say faith comes in, and it is reflected in the Archetypes. But just because we may have faith in the bigger reality, that, to me, does not displace the reality we have chosen to navigate here and now. This reality has a physical aspect, and the body we have is part of our experience here, and as all things, I feel should be honored.
If someone thinks the vaccine is not harmful and is actually helping, that's fine. If someone chooses to believe this, also fine. I think it is difficult for some people to swallow this idea due to so many aspects of the situation. But beyond that, I do wonder how anyone can agree with censorship and mandates. And it seems to me that complying with the vaccines may send a message that the collateral activities—media lies, US president lying, Fauci caught in lies, big pharma raking in billions, no longterm effects compiled, and so on—are acceptable. In referencing what I said above, even though a wanderer may have a higher understanding of mind and reality and the bigger picture of spiritual evolution, I am failing to see the efficacy of complying with the inhibition of free will and the human-3D common sense of an untested vaccine which is as far as I can ascertain a gene therapy experimental medical product whose effects are really unknown. As an analogy, it reminds of a diabetic person eating cookies then taking insulin to deal with the effects—it seems more efficient just not to eat the cookies until cookies that don't affect the glycemic index are created. But the point I am bringing up for input from all of you, is what about the message this sends to the others on this planet? Is it okay just to comply because a wanderer knows the bigger picture, rendering what happens here none of the wanderer's concern? Honoring the free will of others, and not getting caught up in the maelstrom, is not the same as going along with things one doesn't agree with in general. The vaccines have been rolled out to children and will be to babies, and they are in some cases being coerced against the parent's wishes. As Zedro brought up, if we were in 1930-something Germany, what would be a wanderer's response there? Comply with whatever the government was trying to do? Don't take this the wrong way—I am not saying taking the vaccine is like going along with Hitler and genocide. But there is an underlying concept of how far to comply with cultural coercion, and why. And considering the censored narrative, I do not think it a stretch to call it coercion.
I am not suggesting activism. I only want to canvass this from another angle—that of a wanderer, like the explorers in Star Trek, coming to this planet and living in the planetary cultures as a human being. Is compliance in the name of acceptance a valid idea? Is there a responsibility to what message you represent here? Does loving this place and everything in it especially in the name of free will supercede the consequences of one's actions here if those actions appear to agree with inhibiting free will even though that may not be the intention?
This is not meant to criticize anyone. Everyone must stand in their own path and truth. I just wanted to express my own unlear perspective and the thoughts chasing tail in my head. All comments and perspectives are welcome.
I get the idea that the vaccine's efficacy and safety may derive from one's belief system or "faith," or intention to create reality. This is even supported empirically in the placebo effect. So as far as that goes, the decision to take a vaccine being the individual's choice makes perfect sense.
I think it's more complicated than that however.
I can see how some wanderers just come here to love and accept everything, and spread that light. But where this intersects with the vaccine is respect for the chemical body one has while here, and the ramifications of how that spreads to the world one has come here to help. If an individual is an adept and can override any chemical additions to the body if harmful (like Paul and Jessica did in Dune) then if there is a reason to do so, great. If someone here can do that, great. But I don't personally find any good reasons to do so, and please correct me if anyone disagrees.
If a wanderer (I'll just say wanderer rather than a list of seekers and interested members here) takes this vaccine, I think this decision may reflect on the following ideas:
As a visitor here, in lightening the load of planetary distress (paraphrasing Ra), what you do is seen, and whether or not intended to be, is an example of how to behave and respond to catalyst and planetary input, unless you are an absolute hermit. This is not a simple concept. In an attempt however weak to articulate what I am thinking, if you are visiting a kindergarten class as an adult, would you expect the 5-year-olds to understand fractal geometry and how that relates to life in the universe? This would be an analogy to exemplifying the transient nature of 3D, creating your own reality through the mind and intelligent energy, and overriding or creating the effect of a chemical vaccine in the chemical body. So if in being here, you are able to do this—override the physical conditions of a physical existence (not to dismiss the other aspects of mind and spirit, just to include this aspect), my question would be, why—why would you do this in the current environment of a controversial, gain-of-function, lab-created virus, and EU vaccines being pushed before the long-term effects are known or for that matter the immediate effects admitted to?
Some ramifications of doing this may include: sending the wrong message (even if there is no intent to send a a message) to others (because they aren't capable of comprehending what you are doing), and ignoring other aspects of human community here including the right to free thinking and choice (by complying with censorship, coercion, and obvious corruption). We can argue the possible harm and corruption, but some of it is patently obvious (I will cite one nonsensical example, that of using Remdesivir, the hospital protocol for Covid treatment, which was banned from use in Africa because it killed half (approximately) of those it was administered to, and then resurrected for use now—and forced in the hospital setting—even though there are other options).
Complying with the status quo doesn't make sense to me unless that is the platform from which to stand here in 3D. I, like others here, even though I comprehend the ideas of acceptance and creating reality through mind and a bigger picture than just this life, also think what I do here has meaning beyond myself. Even though I accept that others make their own decisions and maybe incarnated into harm's way, into dictatorships and other heavy-handed or corruptly governed countries, I don't see the sense of just going along with it all. This may be because I am not advanced enough to see the efficacy of ignoring physical existence as it is here (not being the same thing as not getting caught up in the maelstrom) in favor of the larger reality which we actually can't know due to the veil. This is where some may say faith comes in, and it is reflected in the Archetypes. But just because we may have faith in the bigger reality, that, to me, does not displace the reality we have chosen to navigate here and now. This reality has a physical aspect, and the body we have is part of our experience here, and as all things, I feel should be honored.
If someone thinks the vaccine is not harmful and is actually helping, that's fine. If someone chooses to believe this, also fine. I think it is difficult for some people to swallow this idea due to so many aspects of the situation. But beyond that, I do wonder how anyone can agree with censorship and mandates. And it seems to me that complying with the vaccines may send a message that the collateral activities—media lies, US president lying, Fauci caught in lies, big pharma raking in billions, no longterm effects compiled, and so on—are acceptable. In referencing what I said above, even though a wanderer may have a higher understanding of mind and reality and the bigger picture of spiritual evolution, I am failing to see the efficacy of complying with the inhibition of free will and the human-3D common sense of an untested vaccine which is as far as I can ascertain a gene therapy experimental medical product whose effects are really unknown. As an analogy, it reminds of a diabetic person eating cookies then taking insulin to deal with the effects—it seems more efficient just not to eat the cookies until cookies that don't affect the glycemic index are created. But the point I am bringing up for input from all of you, is what about the message this sends to the others on this planet? Is it okay just to comply because a wanderer knows the bigger picture, rendering what happens here none of the wanderer's concern? Honoring the free will of others, and not getting caught up in the maelstrom, is not the same as going along with things one doesn't agree with in general. The vaccines have been rolled out to children and will be to babies, and they are in some cases being coerced against the parent's wishes. As Zedro brought up, if we were in 1930-something Germany, what would be a wanderer's response there? Comply with whatever the government was trying to do? Don't take this the wrong way—I am not saying taking the vaccine is like going along with Hitler and genocide. But there is an underlying concept of how far to comply with cultural coercion, and why. And considering the censored narrative, I do not think it a stretch to call it coercion.
I am not suggesting activism. I only want to canvass this from another angle—that of a wanderer, like the explorers in Star Trek, coming to this planet and living in the planetary cultures as a human being. Is compliance in the name of acceptance a valid idea? Is there a responsibility to what message you represent here? Does loving this place and everything in it especially in the name of free will supercede the consequences of one's actions here if those actions appear to agree with inhibiting free will even though that may not be the intention?
This is not meant to criticize anyone. Everyone must stand in their own path and truth. I just wanted to express my own unlear perspective and the thoughts chasing tail in my head. All comments and perspectives are welcome.