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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters On being STS as a metaphor for being a programmer.

    Thread: On being STS as a metaphor for being a programmer.


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    #1
    11-14-2018, 07:35 PM
    I feel like I maybe more of an STS entity than a STO entity despite wanting to help others, it feels that the desire to not get immersed in reality and incarnate with it to a next level rather than reincarnate with my own stuff again and make minor adjustements is a strong desire, it feels like it would be the key attribute to being STS, wanting to keep the universe from evolving around you and returning to the same incarnation so you can make minor changes. Rather than picking a new incarnation. This stems from the quote where they say negative entities are highly likely to not want to pass through forgetting, it feels for me that the STS hell seems more like heaven once you remove the religious judgement of their side. That being said I don't know for sure, what do you a'll think, is STS heaven more like a programmers heaven and a STO more like a livers heaven? I feel also when I play computer games that getting immersed in the story then leaving is one of the sadder things because I'd want to live in the story forever, that being said that feels like an STO attribute. Thoughts?
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    11-14-2018, 07:57 PM
    This is relevant only to this specific sphere and third density in particular. The foregetting is a sacrifice one takes to progress much, much faster in spiritual terms. It is not needed or required by any polarity imo. There should be positive third density spheres with no forgetting somewhere in creation, though being aware of the infinite so directly will most likely not give you any seeking to evolve furture. I think that many can relate to what you are feeling. STS is demmed hell because one must manipulate others to progress, that means that they too will be manipulated. So I don't know what kind of universe one could freely create for themselves when they are constantly being manipulated. These are my thoughts on this.
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    #3
    11-14-2018, 08:20 PM
    I feel like I'd want to be a something like a 6.25 density STS working on love lessons while repeating veiled existence.

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    11-14-2018, 08:34 PM (This post was last modified: 11-14-2018, 08:35 PM by Louisabell.)
    I think your determination and focus to work with a fine touch on your personal growth is admirable. Only a few come to realise the great benefit of working behind the third density veil, and therefore fully utilise its potential. Besides, isn't this the thought which makes us so willing to come here in the first place?

    I believe the question to be asked here is what is your motivating factor for working on yourself? If you become more proficient, more powerful, to what ends do you desire to yield that power? I think the answer to that question will give you more insight into whether you are STO or STS polarised or just seeking comfort.

    Over time I am less focused on fourth density graduation as I can't seem to shake the feeling that there is a lot of escapism in the thought of it. It feels like I am not fully honouring the life that is being lived here and now, not accepting humanity for what it is, as oppose to what it may become in a future point of time.

    I think STS space/time is pretty tightly controlled. There are probably grand wizards who run the show, and I'm not convinced that they would do such a poor job of it that their supplicants would be living in squalor. Maybe some negative social complexes would be gritty and brutal, but others may look paradisaical compared to how we live now. All that order and powers of temptation has to create something impressive, right? I also imagine a STS entity would come to willingly oblige being subservient because they respect power, and power differentials are obvious outside veiling. Some people thrive in those environments (think climbing the corporate ladder), others will fall apart. So maybe one persons' hell is another persons' heaven? Who knows?

    But I am curious – why do you think you need to have another incarnation to make certain minor changes? Why not make them now? I'm sure your options of incarnations will dramatically increase outside the veil.
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    11-15-2018, 12:14 AM
    I constantly make changes and change how I view past events but they are still things that have occured and some of them I'd rather not occur in the first place instead of learning to come to terms with them. I am losing so much potential by not being where I wish to be, I make the effort now but it does not feel sufficient and I feel new lives in this setting would be better than living an entirely different life. I feel like I may have wronged people enough to want to apologize and hang around them more.

    I feel most STS places would be like the empire of man from warhammer 40k and not a hellscape, I'll link a video for example:



    Especially if the Tyranids of same mythos is considered the atreides.

    Here tyranids, classically thought of as evil in that context but seem "the good STO from beyond the galaxy" to me.



    And here be atreides, according to its canon the leader of the atreides eventually went to the intergalactic void from where he psychically controls a race of evolved beings, it feels to me they are talking of the same energy that is "anti empire" and as such are like the STO of the real world.



    Sorry for perhaps being out of forum rules, either way, I feel more like STS than STO tho perhaps I am wrong.

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    11-15-2018, 12:18 AM
    I have had various visions where instead of progressing through time, I instead progress through density. Every time refining and improving my responses and expression relative to the density I'm in. An act of infinite acceptance relative to lessons that I initially judged severely. So similar stage (although different stars), I simply get to work on refining my response to the offered catalyst, with the end goal being true fifth density light.

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    11-15-2018, 03:01 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2018, 03:03 AM by Zach.)
    ur positive (IMO)

    :: this world can be confusing
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    11-15-2018, 03:35 AM
    Agreed. I would simply expose a common weakness relative to these polarized or charged expressions. That in the staunch rejection of certain energies or arguments, they strongly validate the opposing view, simply because they are unable to do positive work relative to overly polarized arguments. The truly positive work being the viewing and accepting of all arguments and energies. This being the law of unity. All assertions of "not that" moving one from harmony into disharmony. From unity into disunity.

    So the more you assert that you are good, the more that you have to hide any aspects of the self that you would perceive to be bad. The hiding of the aspect meaning that you would then be unable to do positive work relative to that energy. The repressing and the hiding then assuring the growth in shadow (repressed inside the individual) or the growth in light (the offloading of that energy onto others).

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    11-15-2018, 03:54 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2018, 04:08 AM by Louisabell.)
    (11-15-2018, 12:14 AM)Cyan Wrote: I constantly make changes and change how I view past events but they are still things that have occured and some of them I'd rather not occur in the first place instead of learning to come to terms with them. I am losing so much potential by not being where I wish to be, I make the effort now but it does not feel sufficient and I feel new lives in this setting would be better than living an entirely different life. I feel like I may have wronged people enough to want to apologize and hang around them more.

    I feel most STS places would be like the empire of man from warhammer 40k and not a hellscape, I'll link a video for example:



    Especially if the Tyranids of same mythos is considered the atreides.

    Here tyranids, classically thought of as evil in that context but seem "the good STO from beyond the galaxy" to me.



    And here be atreides, according  to its canon the leader of the atreides eventually went to the intergalactic void from where he psychically controls a race of evolved beings, it feels to me they are talking of the same energy that is "anti empire" and as such are like the STO of the real world.



    Sorry for perhaps being out of forum rules, either way, I feel more like STS than STO tho perhaps I am wrong.

    The 40k universe seems like a hellscape to me, I'd rather not think there is anything resembling real life in it! I played a little with death guard and had to ignore the fact that my bloat drones were powered by entrapped demons … so creepy. However there likely is a lot of crazy technology and genetic engineering going on in negative space/time, so who knows how far it really goes.

    That's kind of interesting to see a STO social complex from the other side as a sort of Borg empire, assimilating every aspiring neophyte they come in contact with, blasting them with the power of universal love. Come here for my hug of assimilating doom! Even if it's totally voluntary to join a positive social complex, maybe a STS empire would see the growing STO numbers as the product of logic-defying all-out-assault psy-op brain-washing.

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    However I'd like to think a STO social complex wouldn't devour worlds, and the bodies they occupy wouldn't be so... hostile and gross looking as the tyranids. I'm hoping for some straight up hippie stuff - flowers, rainbows, long flowing robes, the works. And the metaphysics of maintaining strong individuation while also forming a collective probably cannot be fully understood in 3rd density, so there probably is a lot more freedom of thought and autonomy than a tyranid hive fleet which appear to be acting more second-density in my estimation.

    Are you missing the battle-cry? Are you wanting to move to a location where you can affect more change globally? Could these desires be from human cellular memory or a deeper place? Having said that, Ra does mention that wanderers who come here at this time are going to be more foolhardy and courageous than the norm. So maybe it's just this nature that is coming out instead of anything seriously STS. So are you a warrior of light or a dark lord of mayhem? Keep us posted with what you find out.  Wink

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    11-15-2018, 04:41 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2018, 04:46 AM by Cyan. Edit Reason: Resized pictures and removed mention of pictures being too large, sorry for confusion )
    You need chibi slaanesh and chibi tyranids to see whats really going on, ofcourse the warlike faces would be, well, warlike.

    Let me take you on a quick tour.

    [Image: ve-found-no-surviyors-over-there-no-fran...893772.png]

    That to the futurama one

    I can't find a reference to it now but the tyranid creatures seem to have a rainbow sheen armor whereby when you shoot at them and they avoid the shot, their skin shows all the colors of the rainbow as they evade, very colorful and pretty, or so I read.

    Like this.

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    [Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRv2AmkIOKIQlLPub_IdeA...Mt24kq23jW]

    I'm sure the hive mind back in the intergalactic void at the point of the lowest gravity, from which every point is "downhill" towards more gravity centers, the highest point of the high, makes chibi things for its children away from the warzone to play with, what if once the imperium strikes back and advances into the void after the tyranids they find huge farms of chibi creatures and cuteness as far as the eye can see, I'm sure the imperium would burn it all to the ground, the evil STSssers they are ;D

    While slaanesh on the other hand is practically cute:

    [Image: 760bb72ab7e5af3fccb2999888957cb2.jpg]

    No but really, I've had a hard time with slaanesh lately so she may really be STS, who knows.

    ;

    [Image: 46271401_1908800855923933_72188532687246...e=5C87A125]

    My little slaanesh is so pretty BigSmile

    But true, it does seem the tyranids are a 2nd density being lacking strongly in 3-5 and then lead by a 6.49density STS bent on consuming the entire universe, not a good group to hang around with, They seem to be heading for the light of the astronomican, like plants reaching towards the light so it could very well be a metaphor for what happens when you build a STS lightpost, the very life of the universe starts to mutate and rush towards you at just below the speed of light, they don't want to cross that barrier for some reason it seems.

    On another note, I just got my health check back from the doctor, everything was clean except for a around 20% higher than norm high for leukosytes, the immune system cell fighting against infections, and the c5 to c7 neck vertebra are somewhat misaligned, everything else seems to be aligned properly. There were no growths in the heart or lungs and they are both sized normal. I inquired if I could also get a free brain exam for abnormalities and blood flow irregularities due to being diagnosed as a psychotic I feel I would want to see if my brain has some physical abnormality or blood flow issue to see if that maybe the cause. The doctor said that as she does not feel there is anything wrong with me at all she can't prescribe more tests as it would be unethical to do them out of "plain curiosity" as far as she's concerned, I'm healthy and if I want more tests I should consult my psychiatrist for them as he would be better positioned to make that determination. I felt they were strong words against my psychosis diagnosis but I do not know for sure.

    Anyway, I feel like after the universe is concluded and I sit in the vaccuum of foreverness I'd want to recreate all the people and situations I was in and adjust myself a little and retry the life as it was, instead of accumulating all the things in myself, figuring out the best plan for all life and then rerolling into that one. So I feel I would be selfish and resurrect everyone around me rather than selfless and take all that energy into a new blank creation and start from scratch without "knowing" before hand what is going to happen, in a way.

    I'd like to close with what I consider the best picture of an alien spaceship, and my own spaceship.

    Here is alien spaceship:

    [Image: pilot-clouds-lightning-night-skies-santi...6__880.jpg]

    This is clearly the same spaceship as in:



    [Image: pilot-clouds-lightning-night-skies-santi...00-png.jpg]

    This one is mine, I bought it from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R136a1 R136a1 by selling rights to extra sea water in case the world ocean surface rises and we ever get to actually realizing we could treat the rising sea water as a resource to trade, not a danger to run away from. So after my negotiations concluded I saw a picture of that and immediately thought its a space ship from 136 sent for me as a compensation for offering a star dying from lack of hydrogen some of my own, like offering a dying man a drink in the desert. It made me feel good. So anyway, thats my ship, the other one is clearly the Olympos Mons mothership of X-com fable, quite a nice battleship indeed, and such a nice name of the place where its parked, "tormenta".

    Now if I ever see the palace of chaos and the mothership in the middle it has to be a 3 layered doom cake from Mars sitting at a town called tormenta ferrying souls to comorragh to be consumed by the dark elves, or maybe its hanging around for some earthly chibi cake of slaanesh, who knows.

    Anyway, Rad space ship.
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    11-15-2018, 04:49 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2018, 04:52 AM by Cyan.)
    I don't want to edit my post and create confusion so I'll continue here for short, some musings.

    Rushing towards you at the speed of just below the speed of light from the place of least gravity to me feels like it makes sense why black holes would run away from everything at just the speed of light, reaching a place of serenity the soul turns inwards just to give a giant middle finger to the great devourer, seems fitting.

    Quick edit as post is short and no responses:

    Just so no one gets confused and thinks I'm badmouthing dark elves, here is some dark elf music from a lovestory that rings, *sniffles* so true.

    Stay strong and proud Viconia. *Taps heart*



    And here is the lovestory itself:

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