What about Dolphins? Comparable intelligence.

[binary]

Do Dolphins throw a wrench in the whole 2nd entity/3rd entity idea? It's my understanding that Dolphins are of comparable intelligence to humans, and they can sense many things that we cannot. I dunno, maybe I'm clueless but I'm just throwing it out there as I"m new and still skeptical. Would Dolphins be the third entity beings of the underwater realm?

[Cyclops]

There is a bit of info on dolphins and their nature in the sessions. They are described as being very intelligent and very similar to that of humans in terms of progression and choosing of polarity.

Here is a whole session on dolphins, whales and cetaceans in general with comparison to humans.
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0120.aspx

Excerpts from the session.
Q'uo Special Meditation January 20, 2009

Just as your species has had its evolution interrupted by genetic manipulation many thousands of your years in the past, so has the evolution of those known to you as dolphins and whales and other cetaceans such as porpoises been interrupted, not by those from elsewhere than your planet but by those on the island-continent you have called Atlantis.

The consciousness of these mammals was enhanced by the genetic manipulation which caused the so-called human and the so-called cetacean [2] to be bonded and blended and unified into that which had every appearance of being a cetacean, yet that which now possessed a spirit complex of third-density level.

Thusly, the natural process of reproduction gradually invested all of these species with third-density consciousness. Consequently, you and the whales and dolphins are indeed brothers, moving through the third-density major cycle of 76,000 or so of your years.

The necessity to engage in a dialogue between humans and dolphins, humans and whales, and humans and porpoises is attractive and compelling to many of your scientists, who grasp the unusual intelligence of these ocean-going mammals. Perhaps we may say that the best way to learn from the cetaceans of your planet is to imagine how you might experience third density if your field of endeavor were limited to those activities which could be accomplished without the use of hands with the opposable thumbs which the one known as T mentioned in his query.

What would it be like to have a long life in which there were no jobs necessary in order to pay bills, where there were no resources to guard or territory to defend?

How would your life be different if you were free to choose what dreams and visions with which you wished to occupy yourself; what meditations in which you wished to encompass yourself; what contemplation you wished to enjoy, not only for an hour or a few minutes but also for all your waking hours for an entire life?

Q'uo Special Meditation January 20, 2009

This is in stark contrast to your brothers and sisters who are able to ride freely through the ever-changing waters where food is plentiful and is found with no discernable effort, where all waters are acceptable in temperature, where there is no money to make and there are no goods to buy. There is nothing to store up against a harsh winter or old age. There is only the air to breathe, the water in which to swim, companionship and the dreams, meditations and contemplations of all the years of life.

What can you learn from the contemplation of these differences, my brother? It was the choice of those Atlanteans who volunteered for the experiments in genetics to choose these beautiful animals. The politics of their home in Atlantis seemed to them to be questionable in polarity [and so it seemed] desirable to them, therefore, to use their technology to embark upon a great adventure.

These, then, who swim the seas of your time, are the descendants of the philosophers and sages who saw a better way to move through the spiritual evolution of third density, choosing not so much service to others as a refusal to live in service to self.

Q'uo Special Meditation January 20, 2009

The potential of intelligence and insight in humans, the descendants of great apes, and in cetaceans, those who originally were land animals but evolved into sea-going animals, is roughly the same, the ratio of brain size to body size being similar. However, the human species has become increasingly distracted from the deeper levels of contemplation, meditation, imagination, insight and dreaming.

The consciousness that is common to both species has been greatly interrupted by the intellect of the human species, which has more and more, as your centuries have rolled by, become involved in making choices, none of which bear upon spiritual questions.

Consequently, the great blessing and resource of the frontal lobes of your brains is not used. There is no concerted effort to develop and learn the use of these frontal lobes. The process of achieving connection with this part of the brain is not that which is widely taught.

Q'uo Special Meditation January 20, 2009

Humans have done a marvelous job of developing the possibilities of intellectual thought while they have left carelessly neglected, and for the most part abandoned, the deeper realms of insight, meditation and contemplation, those activities that connect the frontal lobes with the rest of the brain.

You have not had the choice of those sages from Atlantis. You do not have freedom to choose the environment of land and the opposable thumb or the water that goes on forever with no boundaries and no limits to entrain the mind and shut it down. Therefore, it may well seem that the whales and dolphins have more wisdom than their human counterparts. However, their and your resources are the same. It is the environmental difference that has shaped the way the two species have used third density to make their choice of polarity.

Q'uo Special Meditation January 20, 2009

Jim: “According to information from Q’uo, the fourth density is coming very soon. When Earth enters the fourth density fully, I suppose there will be two kinds of fourth density beings: one looking like humans and the other looking like dolphins or whales. Is this correct?”

We are those of Q’uo and are aware of your query, my brother. My brother, it is certainly correct in terms of the early graduates of third density, for it takes a certain amount of what you call time and experience in fourth density in order to begin to enjoy the freedom that this density offers. We are not those who can probe your future in terms of linear time, for in the linear space/time sense these choices have not yet been made.

But within fourth density there is the capacity of the physical body to make choices as to what form it would wish to use. This opens the choice not only to the human form and the form of the cetaceans but other forms as well.

So we would say, my brother, in early fourth density there certainly shall be found many fourth-density cetaceans and many fourth-density humans, in that their forms continue to resemble those species. As fourth density evolves, so shall the choices of its souls.

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Latwii here offers some insight on dolphins and cetaceans.
Latwii Sunday Meditation November 29, 1981

D: Speaking of the bottom of the ocean, what can you tell me about dolphins?

I am Latwii, and my brother, we can say many things about dolphins. We, of course, do not suppose to give biology lessons, but may remark in passing that the creatures which are known to you as dolphins are much more than animals which swim in the deep, for these creatures have, for many of your years, possessed the prize of the human form which is called the extension of the brain complex known as the frontal lobes, and, therefore, this creature does have the intelligence that exceeds many of your so-called second-density creatures, and is able to communicate with those of its own kind, and other entities as well, on a level which you may describe as telepathic.

Is there any further specific information regarding this creature which you ask about at this time, my brother?

D: What is their evolutionary track? How did they become dolphins?

I am Latwii, and, my brother, in this regard we may say that the creatures known to you as dolphins have progressed upon a path which is in, shall we say, somewhat of a balance or opposition to the path which the humanoid creatures of your kind have traveled. Those of the homo sapien nature have traveled a path that has, for the most part, been a dusty one and one which has remained upon the land. The creatures known to you as dolphins have traveled a path which has been somewhat more moist. This path has included the single-celled creatures of the ocean which have developed over a period of time the nature of the vertebrate, which has included the knobby protrusion at one end known as the brain.

This continuing evolution of complexity of the nervous system has developed additional parts of this brain which have corollaries to your cortex and thinking processes. The continuing development through various forms of what you would call fishes has progressed to the aquatic form of a mammal, which has reached its zenith upon this planet in the ones which you call dolphins and some forms of the creatures which you call whales, in that these creatures have been able to develop an additional portion of the brain organ which we have referred to previously as the frontal lobes, and in this regard have activated an energy center which has allowed them the communication which might be called telepathic.

Is there any further way which we might be of service to you in this regard, my brother?

D: What’s the density of the dolphin?

I am Latwii, and, my brother, we might suggest to you that, as you are aware, many creatures upon your planet now, including the human form, possess the body of the fourth density in activation and this is also the case with the creatures known to you as dolphins.

May we answer you further, my brother?

D: No.

We are most grateful for this opportunity to be of service. Is there another question at this time?

L: Yes. On that same subject of dolphins. Will they go through the same process—of division into the polarized groups—as we will?

I am Latwii. My brother, we might suggest that your assumption is correct to the best of our knowledge.

May we answer you further?

L: Yes. In comparison to our own race’s progress in polarization, how would you compare our progress with that of the dolphins?

I am Latwii, and, my brother, we do not wish to make any present feel lesser in their seeking, but your brothers and sisters of the dolphin family have been much more united and centered in their seeking and choosing of a polarity, for their seeking has resulted in the positive polarity choice to an almost unanimous degree.

May we answer you further, my brother?

L: Yes. Is this also true of the group we refer to as killer whales?

I am Latwii. This is correct, my brother. May we answer you further?

L: No, thank you for your help.

We thank you as well. Is there another question at this time?

Carla: While we’re on dolphins, do dolphin—does the dolphin race precede the humanoid race and have its own individual and particular genetic trail or did those of Atlantis deal genetically with and become part of the dolphin race at one point many thousands of years ago?

I am Latwii, and, my sister, in this regard, we may note that crossover, shall we say, between the races of your third-density beings, this including those known as dolphins and some forms of those called whales, has been very minimal. The genetic progress of the ones known as dolphins has been, for the most part, a progress of a homogeneous nature, dwelling also within the boundaries of the third-density illusion which you experience. Therefore, this trail which has been traveled by the dolphin is a trail which began at the same time the trail of the humanoid form began upon your planet, approximately 75,000 of your years ago.

May we answer you further, my sister?

Carla: Yes. So that those who incarnated as that type of fish reincarnated as that type of fish and so forth, just as we have incarnated many times as what we call humans. Their path has been one that they followed carefully and they are a breed getting ready for harvest, just as we are? Is this correct? Or have they gone through harvest early and are now living in fourth-density activated bodies, or do they have dual-activated bodies?

I am Latwii, and, my sister, upon this query we might say that these entities of which you speak are, for the most part, inhabiting those bodies which you might call doubly activated, and shall continue in that form upon the completion of that which is called the harvest. And we might also note that you are correct in assuming that they have remained with this form for the entire 75,000 years of this third-density cycle, for their experience in that form and in the medium known to you as water has been unique for their race, and to change forms from that of the aquatic to that of the land creature known as the humanoid, would not be of the greatest value in the seeking of the light and the love of the one Creator, for they have their mode, shall we say, and your people have their own.

[thefool]

thanks Cyclops...

[crystl37]

Here is a particularly beautiful video about the Cetaceans and the dolphin matrix.

Meditations for the Oceans

I found out something else interesting by accident. If you play this Clearing the Gulf song file at the same time as this video, the music blends together beautifully-actually better with the video.


This is another video I found very interesting. I would like to know what you guys think about this.

A Message from the Dolphins and Whales (Cetaceans)

I just happened to be exploring the Cetacean connection this weekend myself.

[Ole]

It's interesting to note that Cyclops' quotes contradict each other.

we may note that crossover, shall we say, between the races of your third-density beings, this including those known as dolphins and some forms of those called whales, has been very minimal

That does not match the story of an Atlantean man/dolphin hybrid that was given in a recent channeling (also quoted above).

I don't mention this as criticism, but as a reminder that conscious channeling is more like inspired writing than anything else. The Q'uo channelings are awesome, but they do contain contradictions.

[AnthroHeart]

Interesting, I never really knew Dolphins to be of third density before. I knew they were intelligent, but hadn't realized they are ready for harvest into 4D as well. I should like to experience the collective mind of the cetaceans when in 4D.

The quote you gave Cyclops, I found fascinating: "it is certainly correct in terms of the early graduates of third density, for it takes a certain amount of what you call time and experience in fourth density in order to begin to enjoy the freedom that this density offers."

I should like to know more later about this work in 4D.

[Plenum]

so dolphins are 3d entities? cool!!

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what is the essential ingredient for 3d? the capability for abstract thinking.

[kdsii]

Yeah, I thought so too.
I think the only other 3D group are the little nuke-resistant goblins.
(Book one, not kidding)

:p

so dolphins are 3d entities? cool!!

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what is the essential ingredient for 3d? the capability for abstract thinking.

[Spaced]

It sounds just lovely to be a dolphin. I loved watching them in Blue Planet, though that series also shows that polarity exists under the waves too, I'm thinking in particular of the scene where a group of orcas separate a sperm whale cub from its mother and force it deeper and deeper underwater til it drowns.

[kdsii]

Speaking of dolphins, look at the design of this crop circle...

[Spaced]

That's the dolphin social memory complex' way of saying "so long and thanks for all the fish"

[Cyan]

so dolphins are 3d entities? cool!!

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what is the essential ingredient for 3d? the capability for abstract thinking.

I have a theory about this.

Remind me to tell you if i make it to homecoming.

[Patrick]

...What would it be like to have a long life in which there were no jobs necessary in order to pay bills, where there were no resources to guard or territory to defend?

How would your life be different if you were free to choose what dreams and visions with which you wished to occupy yourself; what meditations in which you wished to encompass yourself; what contemplation you wished to enjoy, not only for an hour or a few minutes but also for all your waking hours for an entire life?...

Nearly crying from wanting this so much! Just another 100 years or so to wait before we do have this.

[BrownEye]

You coming back as a dolphin?

[AnthroHeart]

That would be nice.
Let me rephrase that, very nice, not to have to work.

I want that life too Patrick.

[Patrick]

You coming back as a dolphin?

I wouldn't mind.

But I think we can manage it in our current form.

[caycegal]

That's the dolphin social memory complex' way of saying "so long and thanks for all the fish"

That's one of my favorite quotations!

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That would be nice.
Let me rephrase that, very nice, not to have to work.

I want that life too Patrick.

If you believe what Abraham says, you don't "have to" work, you can choose otherwise.

Also, for some people work is play, and much more fun than sitting around doing nothing that involves interacting with the physical universe.

This is not to disparage the dolphins/whales. I feel deep reverence and affection for them.

[BrownEye]

I had a memory push through as I was browsing the web. I reacted to the memory and asked about it. I was told there is not 3rd density experience in the dolphin body, yet there is 4th density.

This brought me to the memory that came through. The bodies became a form of choice at the time of the flood. In order to keep a flow of incarnations the Lemurians began to incarnate into these bodies as there were not many land based bodies.

A lot of Lemurian memories have been trying to come through lately.

[reeay]

There was this lady in Japan who claimed her family descended from Mu (long line of psychics from the matriarchal line) and she talked about aquatic beings (humanoids) who lived there once, which is consistent with the legends around the Pacific. They also had a crystal ball with fur growing on it that they said lived from the time of Mu.

[Zachary]

This is in stark contrast to your brothers and sisters who are able to ride freely through the ever-changing waters where food is plentiful and is found with no discernable effort, where all waters are acceptable in temperature, where there is no money to make and there are no goods to buy. There is nothing to store up against a harsh winter or old age. There is only the air to breathe, the water in which to swim, companionship and the dreams, meditations and contemplations of all the years of life.

Beautiful.

[BrownEye]

she talked about aquatic beings (humanoids) who lived there once, which is consistent with the legends around the Pacific.

This sounds so cool, but I am unable to connect to any form of bipedal water based life.

I do however find them in alternate realities, just not the particular reality we reside in. All I can find is some sort of dimensional issue, where this information is an alternate history that may not have 'physically' transferred here with the awareness.

The hairball crystal is funny. I can imagine an ancient polished stone that begins to grow and show its natural form, which may have the appearance of 'hairs'. Completely logical.

[reeay]

Not sure if they were bipedal but apparently she and my mother were both in this form in that place. I kind of assumed they are humanoid. But maybe it was land-form and aquatic-form (dual).

Hairy ballz. lol ok that's a bit off. But my skeptic father was impressed by this hairball.

[BrownEye]

I have heard of crystals growing after having sat in storage forever.

I can fully imagine a naturally 'fuzzy' form of quartz polished down to a sphere, later reactivating growth.

[Parsons]

Dolphins are bipedal? o_O

Apologies, I lost the train of conversation at some point.

[BrownEye]

Dolphins are bipedal? o_O

Apologies, I lost the train of conversation at some point.

That made me laugh. But, now that you mention it, in other realities they are LoL!

[caycegal]

I had a memory push through as I was browsing the web. I reacted to the memory and asked about it. I was told there is not 3rd density experience in the dolphin body, yet there is 4th density.

This brought me to the memory that came through. The bodies became a form of choice at the time of the flood. In order to keep a flow of incarnations the Lemurians began to incarnate into these bodies as there were not many land based bodies.

A lot of Lemurian memories have been trying to come through lately.

I don't really completely understand all this, but it syncs with what I've read also.