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    The_Tired_Philosopher (Offline)

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    11-15-2015, 06:09 AM
    I have hard days now and then, where I just get stuck in bad feels wanting to just go away from life and all things.

    But sadly I don't desire to die completely so I have to cope with those feels as they come from the myriad of interactions with myself and others.

    My usual ways actually vary by severity.  At the worst I'll literally go out in public and just wait for all the feels to taper off.  At lighter but still harsh feels I can shut down or if its literally not socially possible I'll start drinking to make the time fly by passing out or glazing drunk over time as it passes not allowing myself to think.

    When depressed I play video games a lot more often.  Eat less or will spend money less cautiously (not recklessly thank god).

    I'm alone.  So, I have friends, but they don't like talking to me when I'm depressed so I can't talk to them.  I literally do not know if I can spend my money with how much s*** has gone wrong lately.  (Not even sure I can afford myself presents this holiday season.)

    So, I'm actually hyped up on lots o' coffee so I'm in a good mood, thought I'd share and ask everyone how they cope with hard feels.

    I typically just seclude myself away from life or distract myself now a days.

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    11-15-2015, 06:20 AM
    when i get in to such state of mind i read this

    "Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe.

    and somehow it remedies me

    remember all is mind .....
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    11-15-2015, 11:01 AM (This post was last modified: 11-15-2015, 11:03 AM by Minyatur.)
    Acceptance of the feelings and a contemplative meditation to find the roots will often unveil that how self feels reflects how self wants to feel. There is a sense of identity in how one feels, a sense of clinging to it.

    Acceptance allows healing to occur and a shift toward a more light/love oriented perspective to happen.

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    11-15-2015, 04:06 PM
    I realize more and more that my negative states of self are repressed emotions I have towards people and the world, so I work to resolve those emotions through contemplation and balancing exercises.
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    11-16-2015, 12:42 AM
    Suffering, pain, loneliness are not true concepts as they lie in the idea something doesn't exist when it very well does. Intuiting this statement can lead to resolution as it lead to mine.

    My personal channeling of whatever source has led to one clear redundant message: "Pain, suffering is not an existing concept. All is truly well."

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    11-16-2015, 03:09 AM (This post was last modified: 11-16-2015, 03:11 AM by The_Tired_Philosopher.)
    LOL

    I'm sorry.

    I just can't!   That's cute.  It denies many and asserts its own truth.

    It doesn't even resonate, just in itself produces more of what it says isn't real.

    I can only laugh, I know you're serious but I'll take it as a joke.

    Because surely you know there's more than one way reality exists despite there only being one way reality exists.

    -Buries face in pillow-
    I just can't.

    I needed that lol

    Afterthought: Make sure to tell the wifey pain isn't real when she's giving birth. That might explain my response well enough.
    3D has pain and suffering, devised by your one and only Infinite Creator.

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    11-16-2015, 03:21 AM (This post was last modified: 11-16-2015, 03:50 AM by Adonai One.)
    The key to leaving the 3rd dimension is a love of all moments so vast that pain can no longer be seen. Edit: The 4th dimension will have difficulties but these are ones that can be subject to immediate readjustment with the gradually increasing wisdom becoming available for full profession. The 5th has been described as reaching absolute power in the negative sense, I believe the intuition can resolve the equivalent yet opposite experience in the positive densities of such a dimension. The 6th can be easily intuited. The 7th is truly beyond words, I would propose. Wink

    Quote:18.10 Questioner: I see. The entity Aleister Crowley wrote “Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law.” He was obviously in understanding, to some extent, of the Law of One. Where is this entity now?

    Ra: I am Ra. This entity is within your inner planes. This entity is in an healing process.

    18.11 Questioner: Did this entity, then, even though he intellectually understood the Law of One, misuse it and therefore have to go through this healing process?

    Ra: I am Ra. This entity became, may we use the vibration sound complex, overstimulated with the true nature of things. This over-stimulation resulted in behavior that was beyond the conscious control of the entity. The entity thus, in many attempts to go through the process of balancing, as we have described the various energy centers beginning with the red ray and moving upwards, became somewhat overly impressed or caught up in this process and became alienated from other-selves. This entity was positive. However, its journey was difficult due to the inability to use, synthesize, and harmonize the understandings of the desires of self so that it might have shared, in full compassion, with other-selves. This entity thus became very unhealthy, as you may call it, in a spiritual complex manner, and it is necessary for those with this type of distortion towards inner pain to be nurtured in the inner planes until such an entity is capable of viewing the experiences again with the lack of distortion towards pain.

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    11-16-2015, 03:24 AM (This post was last modified: 11-16-2015, 03:25 AM by Adonai One.)
    Although mostly irrelevant, my wife and I have come to the same conclusion on this.

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    11-16-2015, 04:09 AM
    May I just  point out a question.

    Why is pain experienceable, but basically said to be nothing, so much its presence in your 'looking back' view is seen as an issue enough to require 'healing'...?

    But pain isn't Real...

    Has anyone ever questioned Ra as to if they feel pain and suffering, or is there experience limited/expanded to only manage the Sorrow in this place?

    It doesn't add up.

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    11-16-2015, 04:52 AM (This post was last modified: 11-16-2015, 04:54 AM by Adonai One.)
    I said pain is not existing. Ra has not made that claim (yet).

    Pain does not exist to me as I have no need for it nor the concept;

    If I perceive myself clinging to pain as far as to say that I absolutely cannot bear something, and that I must avoid such catalyst, I will find myself very silly as I find it much more painless to face the potential and/or present thing, and within it find joy, balance and harmony.

    There are many things of this world and dimension that would seem to bring me suffering but I will do all within my power not to respond to it with fear and avoidance. This fear to me is pain itself and I have no need for it, I have no need to see it as truly existing, as I will face everything within me and "outside of me" upon my path; Non-negotiable.

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    11-16-2015, 06:13 AM
    Semantic sync tiem.

    How does 'not real' and 'not exist'  not mean the same to us? (I think I might see where I skewed your expression with a similar one of my own but just want to make sure)

    Avoidance as pain resonates for me, I'd agree.  I just don't agree that it isn't existent.  I don't see how its basically treated as nonexistent or whichever would be a proper explaining term, but then present enough to be acknowledged.

    I get if it ceases at higher levels.  I don't understand how higher levels grew indifferent/uninvolved with such things.

    Your non-negotiation prospect is exactly like mine, in terms of making catalyst bother me less.  Basically, s-it happens and I look and say, Thanks, leave me alone for a good while again, You'll come back, so just thanks, and be on your way existence.

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    11-16-2015, 06:48 AM
    If pain is avoidance and all will be and is currently faced, then pain is an illusion, a facade.

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    11-16-2015, 07:04 AM
    That is still very present.

    Ilusions are still of themselves, real or existent.

    How do you know your mannerisms of being aren't illusion Just like there's the claim of pain as illusion?

    A facade to something more?

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    11-16-2015, 08:29 AM
    Compare the concept of illusion to the first distortion of free will, compare will and equate it to the concept of pain: You'll get me.

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    11-16-2015, 09:09 AM
    I seclude myself, drink copious amounts of caffeinated beverages, play video-games or keep myself busy with errands. And if it's really bad I stay drunk for 8 years.
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    11-16-2015, 09:30 AM
    (11-16-2015, 04:09 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: May I just  point out a question.

    Why is pain experienceable, but basically said to be nothing, so much its presence in your 'looking back' view is seen as an issue enough to require 'healing'...?

    But pain isn't Real...

    Has anyone ever questioned Ra as to if they feel pain and suffering, or is there experience limited/expanded to only manage the Sorrow in this place?

    It doesn't add up.

    Ra experienced a whole major cycle on harsher physical conditions than our planet in third density, with the veil. I think they have experienced plenty of suffering. However, it seems we have a unique kind of mental suffering on this planet that isn't found elsewhere, but then, I imagine the wanderers of Ra who incarnate on this planet give them plenty of ground experience.

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    11-16-2015, 10:34 AM
    Sounds like all you need is a change in perception. Depression is only cause by ones perception that things are down. They may feel down yet when one changes their perception to appreciate the little things, one finds that life isn't so bad at all

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    11-16-2015, 11:43 AM
    (11-16-2015, 08:29 AM)Adonai One Wrote: Compare the concept of illusion to the first distortion of free will, compare will and equate it to the concept of pain: You'll get me.

    I've been there since April of 2015.

    (11-16-2015, 09:09 AM)Karl Wrote: I seclude myself, drink copious amounts of caffeinated beverages, play video-games or keep myself busy with errands. And if it's really bad I stay drunk for 8 years.

    I did that with Runescape minus the alcohol but x2 the video game time, for 3 years.
    8.  How'd you survive?

    (11-16-2015, 09:30 AM)Aion Wrote:
    (11-16-2015, 04:09 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: May I just  point out a question.

    Why is pain experienceable, but basically said to be nothing, so much its presence in your 'looking back' view is seen as an issue enough to require 'healing'...?

    But pain isn't Real...

    Has anyone ever questioned Ra as to if they feel pain and suffering, or is there experience limited/expanded to only manage the Sorrow in this place?

    It doesn't add up.

    Ra experienced a whole major cycle on harsher physical conditions than our planet in third density, with the veil. I think they have experienced plenty of suffering. However, it seems we have a unique kind of mental suffering on this planet that isn't found elsewhere, but then, I imagine the wanderers of Ra who incarnate on this planet give them plenty of ground experience.

    So why can't they plumb our versions of suffering?  Or is it that ALL of 3D is an illusion basically?  Do tell man, you usually know something.

    (11-16-2015, 10:34 AM)Jeremy Wrote: Sounds like all you need is a change in perception. Depression is only cause by ones perception that things are down. They may feel down yet when one changes their perception to appreciate the little things, one finds that life isn't so bad at all

    I appreciate the little things in my life.  I also do not forget about my reality on Earth, which has just lost...120 souls to further hellish warring atrocities to life as we know it, because...We don't know.  (my theory, they banned GMO's, dun dun dunnn).  Where half the Pacific Ocean, which so you know, I live basically next to, is now irradiated and sending lovely plumbs of the stuff Fallout Style right into my neighborhood.  I love my water, and the radiation and flouride in it.  I love my hot shower, and the leaky pipe underneath it that is leaking into the pantry and my downstairs bathroom, and I can't do anything about it, cause I've not the money or capability.  I love my new tile floor that looks like wood (It is sexy omg, so jazzy).  Love my bed, each pillow, the case of each pillow, the blades on my fan, my furniture, each and every one of my clothes.

    I know little things man, I know they vastly outweigh the typical little-moderate-big things around me in sheer amounts, but I also know if we don't do something about Fukushima I might need to detox my body of radiation in a couple of years.  If we don't stop murdering the planet, I won't have great grand kids possibly.  We're already in the 6th major extinction event, with the pacific eco system going extinct, soon the rest of the chain follows and we'll need to supply our food in different ways.  Japan is screwed in a sense food wise.

    There's much good, I get that, there's about the same amount of bad in those copious amounts and I seem to always be right on the fringe barely dodging crap left and right.  I also have miracles left and right (that help me dodge the crap), so I'm pretty much neutral.  With much anxiety towards feeling more pain of  sorts I can't explain much beyond how I did in my Empath'y thread.

    Depression?  Sometimes I think I deserve to feel horrible, I've done in my mind horrible things to people.  I fail my son every day, there's nothing I can do about that.  I've lost most of my friendships through means that are basically drifting and things gone wrong.  I'm lonely often so I get angry alone much at the many things that come across my mind in my solitude that I think about, which are often things I try to process but just flip out at instead, even when I notice I stop for a bit, and then it just happens again.  So I'm trying my best but sometimes having no one to bounce ideas off of, you start to wonder if anything you think is even plausible, never mind probable.

    So I have to cope.  My life lead here, I did this to myself, and now I need to take responsibility for it, so I look for ways to do what I basically want to do in what everyone calls 'avoidance', and that's 'cope' with 'avoidance'.

    So basically, help me know how to enjoy my vast alone time, what could one possibly do that isn't too expensive, and is useful to someone else or yourself short term and long term?

    Help me 'cope' with my looking at Catalyst and just ignoring it as my method of dealing with it.  Help me cope with the fact my reality is...  Defined partially by a hidden sequence of Pi (my 3 6 9 thread).

    And thank you all who have so far.  Much love, and may you suffer not much at all!  (but enjoy your inevitable conquering by life Wink )

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    11-16-2015, 03:51 PM (This post was last modified: 11-16-2015, 03:52 PM by Aion.)
    Ra can't do that because it would affect too many people's choices I'd think. 'Telling' us what is wrong with us is not letting us learn for ourselves and Ra is all about that. They even said they do not feel they can or should respond to any inquiry beyond philosophy without direct questioning so that's a view of the limitations of the way in which they are choosing to serve. They are serving as much as they are able, many seem to expect boundless service. Ra is still Ra.

    Yes, all of 3D is illusion and in fact the illusion of 3D is one of the elements that makes it what it is. It is supposed to be illusion because it is the window through which an entity looks in order to see itself reflected and through which self-awareness develops in to full awareness of the other. It is supposed to be confusing because it is through confusion that true understanding may be found in its resolution. I admit, I don't know if true understanding is possible here but I don't think the point is to understand, I think it is to accept we don't. Embracing this mystery, we move forth in to love and love, slowly, through the end of 3D and all through 4D we learn the understanding of the nature of Love and the understanding that comes from there. Then we proceed to grow our wisdom in how we direct our own life and love through 5D until we become Love/Light in 6D and get to know its innate beingness through Oneness.

    At least, in the Ra cosmology.

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    11-16-2015, 07:07 PM
    (11-16-2015, 11:43 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: So basically, help me know how to enjoy my vast alone time, what could one possibly do that isn't too expensive, and is useful to someone else or yourself short term and long term?

    We are co-creators, so enjoy others' creations or create.

    I like to read mangas, pretty much one of the only reasons I would not want to die.
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    11-18-2015, 08:13 PM
    (11-16-2015, 11:43 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote:
    (11-16-2015, 09:09 AM)Karl Wrote: I seclude myself, drink copious amounts of caffeinated beverages, play video-games or keep myself busy with errands. And if it's really bad I stay drunk for 8 years.
    I did that with Runescape minus the alcohol but x2 the video game time, for 3 years.
    8.  How'd you survive?
    I don't know. I wonder that myself frequently.

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