06-30-2015, 01:42 AM
(06-25-2015, 11:18 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Do you say this from study, experience, or both?
Both, though the subjective nature of this phenomenon is such that my studies necessarily influence my experiences. I suppose there is no wholly true objectivity as one recedes back into the realm of pure subjective energy from which all seeming "objective" realities are predicated upon.
(06-25-2015, 11:18 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: I had bought a series of Monroe Institute hemi-sync cassettes designed to help induce and facilitate out-of-body travel. That was 13 or so years ago. I had no success at the time. Things have changed a lot since then, though.
Indeed. Much as I would like to say I've mastered the discipline, producing the phenomenon at will still eludes me. I'm dependent on awakening into the right "state". I have yet to deliberately produce the experience from a fully awakened state. The best results happen for me by setting my alarm clock for early in the morning (preferably before the sun rises), and then intending strongly to become conscious after my body has gone to sleep.
(06-24-2015, 11:28 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: How this intersects with what Ra describes as the the 7 bodies is not something I've been able to come up with a satisfactory answer for.
(06-25-2015, 11:18 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Don’t you think that model runs somewhat contrary to the Ra Material, though. (Which is not to make the Law of One the final arbiter of truth.)
Ra indicates that the physical vehicle is not the final or first (depending on your perspective) of seven, but rather, identical to the hierarchy of chakras, the third in the line.
This is what I'm always attempting to explain: how Ra's explanation of the bodies matches up with the subtle bodies espoused by the occultists, but I fully understand that many others won't agree with my explanations. Also, if any of the following disagrees with your understanding or sensibilities, please feel free to point out the flaws in my thinking if you see any. I freely accept criticism. I found the following explanation to be somewhat of a revelation when I figured it all out, and wanted to share my understanding, but it is completely understandable if it doesn't jive with someone.
To further make this point, allow me to quote Ra's descriptions of the bodies, interspersed with my interpretations or observations about Ra is saying:
Quote:47.8 Questioner: In our esoteric literature numerous bodies are listed. I have here a list of the physical body, the etheric, the emotional, the astral, and the mental. Can you tell me if this listing is the proper number, and can you tell me the uses and purposes and effects, etc., of each of these or any other bodies that may be in our mind/body/spirit complex?So what am I saying by pointing all this out?
Ra: I am Ra. To answer your query fully would be the work of many sessions such as this one, for the interrelationships of the various bodies and each body’s effects in various situations is an enormous study. However, we shall begin by referring your minds back to the spectrum of true colors and the usage of this understanding in grasping the various densities of your octave.
We have the number seven repeated from the macrocosm to the microcosm in structure and experience. Therefore, it would only be expected that there would be seven basic bodies which we would perhaps be most lucid by stating as red-ray body, etc. However, we are aware that you wish to correspond these bodies mentioned with the color rays. This will be confusing, for various teachers have offered their teach/learning understanding in various terms. Thus one may name a subtle body one thing and another find a different name.
The red-ray body is your chemical body. However, it is not the body which you have as clothing in the physical. It is the unconstructed material of the body, the elemental body without form. This basic unformed material body is important to understand for there are healings which may be carried out by the simple understanding of the elements present in the physical vehicle.
The orange-ray body is the physical body complex. This body complex is still not the body you inhabit but rather the body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters. This body may live without the inhabitation of the mind and spirit complexes. However, it seldom does so.
The yellow-ray body is your physical vehicle which you know of at this time and in which you experience catalyst. This body has the mind/body/spirit characteristics and is equal to the physical illusion, as you have called it.
[please note that the first 3 bodies described are *physical* bodies. And Ra makes no specific point of saying they are done describing physical bodies, and will now here describe nonphysical bodies. No such distinction is made. This is really important. It is my assertion that all the bodies Ra is describing in this section are physical bodies. The reason Ra says it is "equal" to the physical illusion is because it is equal to OUR physical illusion as 3rd density beings. If we were 2nd density beings, the orange ray would then have been equal to our physical illusion. Capish?]
The green-ray body is that body which may be seen in séance when what you call ectoplasm is furnished. This is a lighter body packed more densely with life. You may call this the astral body following some other teachings. Others have called this same body the etheric body. However, this is not correct in the sense that the etheric body is that body of gateway wherein intelligent energy is able to mold the mind/body/spirit complex.
[here, Ra is talking about ectoplasmic manifestations during seances, or spirit contacts where spiritual beings make themselves *physically* visible through the use of ectoplasm. Again, this is a *physical* manifestation Ra is describing. Apparently, the physical matter of fourth density is easier for non corporeal entities to utilize than the matter of 3rd density, for example.]
The light body or blue-ray body may be called the devachanic body. There are many other names for this body especially in your so-called Indian Sutras or writings, for there are those among these peoples which have explored these regions and understand the various types of devachanic bodies. There are many, many types of bodies in each density, much like your own.
[please note how, in this section, Ra states that there are many bodies in other densities much like our own, which, in fact, is a *physical* density (at least, the portion we are currently privy to). Isn't that fascinating? Yet again, there is a strong implication this is referencing physical realities.]
The indigo-ray body which we choose to call the etheric body is, as we have said, the gateway body. In this body form is substance and you may only see this body as that of light as it may mold itself as it desires.
The violet-ray body may perhaps be understood as what you might call the Buddha body or that body which is complete.
Each of these bodies has an effect upon your mind/body/spirit complex in your life beingness. The interrelationships, as we have said, are many and complex.
Basically, I am asserting that the subdensities *reflect* the major densities in composition and form. Or rather, it would be more accurate to say: the densities reflect the essential nature of the RAYS they resonate with most closely. In truth, all densities exist in ALL the rays, but each density is particularly resonant, or identified, with a specific ray.
Each "higher ray" is of a higher vibration than the preceding ray. Just as the color red is of a slower wavelength than the color violet in the scientifically understood electromagnetic spectrum the rays are similarly nuanced by rate of vibration in a metaphysical sense.
What does this mean in practical experience?
The slower the rate of vibration, the more TANGIBLE things will become. And that, my dear friends, is what puts the PHYSICAL in PHYSICALITY. Tangibility is the essence of physical. And conversely, INTANGIBILITY is what puts the nonphysical in nonphysical. The higher the rate of vibration the more the orientation towards the intangible things become.
And this is why, pure space/time is RED RAY. And pure time/space is VIOLET RAY. Each reflects a predominant spatial orientation of the energy or consciousness material towards the physical or the nonphysical. All the rays in between are not purely oriented in either direction and thus they contain varying ratios of the tangible to the intangible or varying ratios of space to time. Whew! That is a mouth full, and a lot to think about, so one could be entirely forgiven for not grokking this right away, but I'm trying, somewhat painfully, to lay the bread crumbs of logic to this key to understanding the bodies, be they physical or otherwise.
So with this understanding of rate of vibration and its relationship to the orientation towards the tangible (space/time) or the intangible (time/space), one can begin to understand its relationship to the subtle bodies and/or physical bodies.
The red ray subdensity of any given density is the overlap, or marriage, between the consciousness of any given ray and the red ray which is the lowest vibratory ray of consciousness, which, as we discussed previously, is the most tangible, or physical, manifestation of any given energy level. Thus, the red ray subdensity of any given density is the physical body of that density -- the physical manifestation that may physically, or most tangibly, house the consciousness resonant with that density.
Thus, the red ray of 1st density (1D:red) is the physical body that houses 1D consciousness, otherwise known as the ELEMENTAL BODY without form.
The red ray of 2nd density (2d:red) is the physical body that houses 2D consciousness, otherwise known as the GENETIC BODY or as Ra calls it, "the body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters."
The red ray body of 3rd density (3D:red) is the physical body that houses 3D consciousness, otherwise known as the HUMAN FORM, or other equivalent 3rd density terran construct with brain capacity enough to support consciousness that is SELF AWARE in nature. Though, it is not properly 3rd density unless a self aware being is in fact inhabiting it.
The red ray body of 4th density (4D:red) is the physical body that is capable of housing 4D consciousness, which, I surmise, is a kind of ectoplasmic form or as Ra elsewhere described the phyical fourth density body: "That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thoughts of other-selves; it is a plane where one is aware of the vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus."
This same analysis applies to the rest of the red ray bodies of all other densities, though the physical forms become progressively more refined to support the consciousness of the given vibratory ray in the physical realm. The physical forms become of a higher and higher energy level. This is why Ra said if they had come among the egyptians without altering their form they would have been "perceived as light". People miss the point that they still "would have been perceived", because they still have a physical form at that level (if they want it). Their PHYSICAL manifestations at their density level has LITERALLY become light (and also why physical light is the generative offspring of 6th density copulation).
Now, back to the SUBTLE bodies.
When one understands how the red ray subdensity is the most tangible manifestation of each density, one can begin to understand the logic of the more subtle bodies of each density, which constitute the remaining rays of any given density. Each one above the red ray is a more subtle manifestation than the last, each succeeding body leaning more and more purely in the direction of the supraluminal velocities of pure time/space. And also, leaning more and more in the direction of the formless mind from which all things arise out of and dissolve back into.
One can begin to understand how the first few vibratory bodies beyond the red ray contain remnants of the tangible, remmants and similarities to the physical world we are familiar with, such as the astral levels, which can seem VERY physical and tangible, and which are more easily understandable from a physical perspective, and gradually rise up into the mental bodies of conceptual architecture and inspiration, and then the spiritual causal bodies, and finally, the buddhic body in time/space at the apex of formless consciousness, and the levels where what we think of as "forms" are both FORGED and DISSOLVED. Where form is seen as a literal SUBSTANCE to be spread about like we might spread butter on toast.
There is power in understanding this metaphysical architecture. I sincerely wish I was better equipped to articulate my understanding in a more palatable way.