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    Questioner (Offline)

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    #1
    03-17-2010, 02:22 PM (This post was last modified: 03-17-2010, 02:27 PM by Questioner.)
    I picture this discussion site as a giant picnic at a park. Some people are hanging out by the grill, cooking up veggie burgers for whoever wants one. Both kids and adults take turns on the swings. A few folks, and several dogs, are happily chasing Frisbees.

    Underneath the big canvas tent, people come and go for some earnest conversations around the picnic tables. They wheeled in a chalk board to sketch out some diagrams. Unlike the famous cartoon, "then a miracle happens" is a perfectly acceptable next step in the equations! Animated discussions come from the bunch of folks around the board. Several people come over the hill now and then with news from the UFO's. I keep missing the saucers myself, but the reports of what the pilots had to say are very intriguing.

    Occasionally someone sits off to the side a while, not as talkative as usual. Maybe they're just under the weather for a while.

    While my health has been worse than usual, at the same time I've seen some ways that a long term investment of my time could help me make a career transition. Along with that has been quite a bit of chaos in my shared living situation. With all of that going on, I've been less active on the forum.

    I've been more selective about the threads that happen to have an immediate resonance that makes it easy for me to comment. I'll come back to some of the deeper, more challenging topics I left hanging as I get more time with good mental focus.

    I guess these kinds of ups and downs are just part of the flow of life for all of us.

    I'm happy that the picnic goes on and I hope to be back in the tent soon for another turn with the chalk.

    Meanwhile please save a burger with dijon mustard for me, OK?

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    transiten (Offline)

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    #2
    03-17-2010, 02:46 PM
    Hello Questioner

    My life also has taken a new turn and i don't feel as compelled to express myself in lenghty ways at the moment. I'm lurking around and reading though and now and then i'll pop in and say something since i always wonder myself when someone very active suddenly goes silent without leaving a message behind...

    Still with you all in my thoughts

    transiten a bit ZZzz today

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    Questioner (Offline)

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    #3
    03-17-2010, 03:08 PM
    Thanks T! I guess I'll see you around the picnic now and then. Smile

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    AnthroHeart (Offline)

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    #4
    03-17-2010, 03:20 PM
    This reminds me of a dream I had once. It began as a mild nightmare (feeling of being chased or followed by dark entity). I was somewhat lucid, and told myself to persevere and not wake up. I came to a door at the end of a hall, which had a small window showing a sunny day outside.

    When I went thorugh the door, it was a lovely spring day. It was almost like a hollywood "dream" feeling. Warm, beautiful, and I slid in slow motion through a clear puddle of water in the grass. The view was hazy at the edges as I can recall.

    The most dreamy feeling dream I have ever had. One where I woke up slowly after this.

    Man, has it been 10 years already?

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    βαθμιαίος (Offline)

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    #5
    03-17-2010, 09:33 PM
    Questioner, I know just how you feel. Right now I'm browsing a few threads but not finding much time to participate. The ebb will turn back to flow at some point, I imagine.

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    Lavazza (Offline)

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    #6
    03-18-2010, 11:38 AM
    Hey Q, I love that picture you've created. If you don't mind, I'll have a Boca burger with some yellow mustard and an ear of that delicious roasted corn on the cob that Transiten is cooking up. I'll bring the after lunch coffee. Then a little later I brought a chess board for anyone who feels lucky... BigSmile

    I've also been a bit more sparse on the boards, although I try to read everything or at worst skim. Pace is ramping up at work a bit. Everything has cycles including us. I've got your threads 'subscribed' and will watch for signs of your revival. Smile What career are you considering, by the way?

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    transiten (Offline)

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    03-18-2010, 12:44 PM
    (03-18-2010, 11:38 AM)Lavazza Wrote: Hey Q, I love that picture you've created. If you don't mind, I'll have a Boca burger with some yellow mustard and an ear of that delicious roasted corn on the cob that Transiten is cooking up. I'll bring the after lunch coffee. Then a little later I brought a chess board for anyone who feels lucky... BigSmile

    I've also been a bit more sparse on the boards, although I try to read everything or at worst skim. Pace is ramping up at work a bit. Everything has cycles including us. I've got your threads 'subscribed' and will watch for signs of your revival. Smile What career are you considering, by the way?

    How wonderful if this actually would manifest in real life! Bring your singing voices and instrumentsSmile

    transiten

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    #8
    03-18-2010, 08:06 PM
    Questioner, I love your analogy of the drawing, the reporting, and the conversing around the table, set in a context of a larger picnic where some are playing, some are relaxing, and some are just soaking in the vibes of being in like company of the open-hearted.

    Please know that even if you have to retreat to a secluded spot under the canopy of trees for some time in order to regroup, your presence is felt and appreciated.

    I hope that the catalyst behind your health issues is understood and integrated so that we might enjoy a more whole-feeling Questioner. Which isn't to imply that you are lacking or partial! Only to wish for your increased joy.

    Another great things about large picnics is the aspect of family (provided it's not a company picnic). I think we're all family, each to the other. Like the family reunion picnic, some of us may not have met in this lifetime, some of us may not know each others names, others of us have known each other our whole lives, but we all remain related under the family name Unity, because we are one... and because we love food on the grill, vegetarian or otherwise.

    Love/Light,
    GLB

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi

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    #9
    03-18-2010, 09:41 PM
    Thanks Gary (and everyone)!

    I found a specialist who might be able to help my health situation. Initial consultations are now free. I have one scheduled for a few weeks from now. I still don't know about paying for treatment, but I might at least be able to get an accurate diagnosis at last.

    Not only is my physical health often bad, with pain, exhaustion, and poor coordination as major symptoms, but the symptoms can also escalate to slow or confused thinking. This is definitely the most frustrating aspect because I try to hard to figure out a meaning.

    If I could have one definite spiritual experience, it would be to get a good explanation of why I have these afflictions and what I'm supposed to do about them for my evolution. Is this plan A or plan B? Is there some type of insight that would make me free of these problems? Or is the whole point that they limit what I can do, so I'm required to make a more explicit choice of faith vs. despair as the fundamental precondition of this lifetime? Is there something of karma to be repaid? Or is this a new situation, and if so, will someone else ultimately repay my spirit in this life or another? These are things I wonder about sometimes.

    At the same time, there's yet more excitement at the house. The landlord plans to evict the rock star for months of nonpayment, but the rock star doesn't know that yet. I expect fireworks soon.

    GW, that sounds like a truly happy scene. The audience applauds, sighs and laughs as they happily leave the theater.

    Lavazza, I think in the short term I can do some small business consulting, helping with marketing strategies, sales letters, Web sites and the like. My hope is that this could be an immediate part-time income which funds the health care.

    For the medium term, I have some programming projects that could become lucrative after a few more months of coding.

    For the long term, if I can get health and finances stabilized, there are some writing projects and some musical projects that I want to explore.

    I'm not giving up on the forum by any means, merely snacking off the top of the dessert tray. I'll return to the main course over time. Meanwhile, some nibbles.

    Hey, I just found the hammock! Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh....

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    03-19-2010, 08:46 AM
    (03-18-2010, 09:41 PM)Questioner Wrote: Thanks Gary (and everyone)!

    I found a specialist who might be able to help my health situation. Initial consultations are now free. I have one scheduled for a few weeks from now. I still don't know about paying for treatment, but I might at least be able to get an accurate diagnosis at last.

    Not only is my physical health often bad, with pain, exhaustion, and poor coordination as major symptoms, but the symptoms can also escalate to slow or confused thinking. This is definitely the most frustrating aspect because I try to hard to figure out a meaning.

    If I could have one definite spiritual experience, it would be to get a good explanation of why I have these afflictions and what I'm supposed to do about them for my evolution. Is this plan A or plan B? Is there some type of insight that would make me free of these problems? Or is the whole point that they limit what I can do, so I'm required to make a more explicit choice of faith vs. despair as the fundamental precondition of this lifetime? Is there something of karma to be repaid? Or is this a new situation, and if so, will someone else ultimately repay my spirit in this life or another? These are things I wonder about sometimes.

    At the same time, there's yet more excitement at the house. The landlord plans to evict the rock star for months of nonpayment, but the rock star doesn't know that yet. I expect fireworks soon.

    GW, that sounds like a truly happy scene. The audience applauds, sighs and laughs as they happily leave the theater.

    Lavazza, I think in the short term I can do some small business consulting, helping with marketing strategies, sales letters, Web sites and the like. My hope is that this could be an immediate part-time income which funds the health care.

    For the medium term, I have some programming projects that could become lucrative after a few more months of coding.

    For the long term, if I can get health and finances stabilized, there are some writing projects and some musical projects that I want to explore.

    I'm not giving up on the forum by any means, merely snacking off the top of the dessert tray. I'll return to the main course over time. Meanwhile, some nibbles.

    Hey, I just found the hammock! Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh....

    I wish you well! I bless your HEART!

    fairyfarmgirl

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    03-19-2010, 11:10 AM
    (03-18-2010, 09:41 PM)Questioner Wrote: If I could have one definite spiritual experience, it would be to get a good explanation of why I have these afflictions and what I'm supposed to do about them for my evolution. Is this plan A or plan B? Is there some type of insight that would make me free of these problems? Or is the whole point that they limit what I can do, so I'm required to make a more explicit choice of faith vs. despair as the fundamental precondition of this lifetime? Is there something of karma to be repaid? Or is this a new situation, and if so, will someone else ultimately repay my spirit in this life or another? These are things I wonder about sometimes.

    I completely understand those feelings for I have had them within myself many times. Seeing it reflected back to me in yourself, it becomes clear as at least one observation that it can sometimes be near impossible to understand intellectually why or why not something has or has not happened, what brought about certain things, why things are they way they are. Maybe some deep meditation would cook out an answer, but if not rest in assurance that your higher self knows very well why, and that just possibly having those answers now in your conscious mind might spoil the game. Afterall, this is not the density of understanding.

    Much love and healing to you my friend,
    L

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    03-19-2010, 04:21 PM
    http://www.emergingearthangels.com/latest.html This is speaking about the earth changes that are happening and the influx of energy--- it also speaks to as why we are feeling slow and confused at time and then full of energy and quick... a little piece to the puzzle.
    --fairyfarmgirl

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    Lorna (Offline)

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    #13
    03-19-2010, 05:35 PM
    thanks fairyfarmgirl, that link was very useful to me

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    fairyfarmgirl

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    03-19-2010, 10:24 PM
    (03-19-2010, 05:35 PM)Lorna Wrote: thanks fairyfarmgirl, that link was very useful to me

    BigSmileSure!Angel

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    03-20-2010, 08:57 PM (This post was last modified: 03-20-2010, 09:33 PM by Steppingfeet.)
    (03-18-2010, 09:41 PM)Questioner Wrote: If I could have one definite spiritual experience, it would be to get a good explanation of why I have these afflictions and what I'm supposed to do about them for my evolution. Is this plan A or plan B? Is there some type of insight that would make me free of these problems? Or is the whole point that they limit what I can do, so I'm required to make a more explicit choice of faith vs. despair as the fundamental precondition of this lifetime? Is there something of karma to be repaid? Or is this a new situation, and if so, will someone else ultimately repay my spirit in this life or another? These are things I wonder about sometimes.

    Hi Questioner,

    I would echo Lavazza's thoughts 100%. And add that it is downright absurd how little we can actually know in the incarnational experience. I have beaten my head against the condition of ignorance more times than I can count. Unless you are lucky enough to get a one-on-one with a sixth-density social memory complex (e.g., Ra) who can give you some serious insight into and confirmation of your distortions (as Carla especially received), the "why" question remains always out of reach for 99% of us.

    But while I, like you, roam through darkened corridors looking for the light switch while bumping into the walls of despair, confusion, anger - and a whole host of other intricate knots possible only in the darkness - I do believe that we can make some headway in the self-knowledge department.

    The means to this: silence. One-pointedness. There are answers in the silence, I believe. I second Lavazza's elevation of meditation as an aid to your process. Ra does as well:

    Quote:Session #66
    QUESTIONER: Then an entity who becomes aware of his polarization with respect to service-to-others might find a paradoxical situation in the case where it was unable to fully serve because of distortions chosen to reach the understanding it has reached. At this point it would seem that the entity who was aware of the mechanism might, through meditation, understand the necessary mental configuration for alleviating the physical distortion so that it could be of greater service-to-others. At this particular nexus am I correct in this thinking?

    RA: I am Ra. You are correct although we might note that there are often complex reasons for the programming of a distorted physical complex pattern. In any case, meditation is always an aid to knowing the self.

    Of course you know this already, but some gentle friendly nudging can never hurt, right? ; )

    I hope that you are eventually able to use the catalyst to your benefit. In the meantime, I hope that you are able to approach physical pain in the fashion of Carla Rueckert who finds reason to smile and be thankful within the moment without fail, regardless of the intensity or severity of the pain.

    You also wrote:

    (03-18-2010, 09:41 PM)Questioner Wrote: Not only is my physical health often bad, with pain, exhaustion, and poor coordination as major symptoms, but the symptoms can also escalate to slow or confused thinking. This is definitely the most frustrating aspect because I try to hard to figure out a meaning.


    "Slow or confused thinking"!? What is this craziness? You must exhibit this particular symptom set when you are not participating in the forums. : )

    Love and Light,
    GLB

    Explanation by the tongue makes most things clear, but love unexplained is clearer. - Rumi

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    03-21-2010, 11:17 AM
    I love the picnic image! Right now I'm flat on my back on a blanket, allowing the sun to speak to my body, enjoying the presence and energy of others around me, but also knowing that I need my quiet breaks. This is something I'm slowly learning, and it has had to happen through health issues (fine now, but there was one year when I was in pain most of the time); if I don't take the time to slow down and look inwards, my body will make me.

    No idea of course, if this speaks at all to your situation, Questioner, but the sentence "slow and confused thinking" made me want to suggest to maybe try more of the non-thinking. It has been said before, and it bears repeating, that it's really kind of hard for us humans to reach the state of silent being. Pain may have taught me more about it than anything else I've experienced. If you meditate on the pain it can also allow you to step out next to it, observing it, and getting a bit of a break.

    Also: thanks Fairyfarmgirl for the link! It speaks to a lot of what I'm seeing around me now.

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