Love as a function of Acceptance

[zenmaster]

The perfectly balanced entity also has free will. It could choose to respond to a situation with something other than love.

Considering there is no 3D lesson a perfectly balanced entity could possibly learn whatsoever in any possible situation, all possible 3D experience would be fully recognized. This means that in no case would it or could it be coming from a place of less than complete balance and awareness, and so of love.

Take it down a notch to something much, much less than complete balance. The, relatively speaking, hugely distorted beings from Sirius which formed a social memory complex while still in 3D. In order to have a positive social memory complex, their center-of-gravity must be one of 'universal love'. Catalyst is not suggesting this struggle to find 'universal love' because it has been used, by then, for thousands of years of evolution perhaps.

The way I see it, in third density the choice is made not once for all time but moment by moment. Each moment we choose anew.

The fool-proof system has the experience of each moment attracted by what needs to be addressed (needs to be balanced) in the particular individual.
"Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience."
If the focus is on 'universal love' then that is what needs balancing in the particular individual. That is the point of 3D and why 'wanderers', and other entities with prior balancing work, quickly move to green without much experience or catalyst at all.

[AnthroHeart]

That is the point of 3D and why 'wanderers', and other entities with prior balancing work, quickly move to green without much experience or catalyst at all.
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This makes sense. Perhaps it takes a few years of work, but green seems natural to me. I recognize catalyst consciously and choose how I will respond to it. So not all responses are automatic. In a situation where I would normally get angry, I can choose to show love. Is this not balanced, or would balancing be if it happened automatically?

[βαθμιαίος]

Considering there is no 3D lesson a perfectly balanced entity could possibly learn whatsoever in any possible situation, all possible 3D experience would be fully recognized. This means that in no case would it or could it be coming from a place of less than complete balance and awareness, and so of love.

Couldn't it? What's to say a perfectly balanced entity couldn't choose a temporary blockage? Consider Jesus, who Ra said could have chosen a more confused path had he ignored the call to go to Jerusalem.

If the focus is on 'universal love' then that is what needs balancing in the particular individual.

This gets back to the question of which love we're talking about. The love in the moment may be love in the sense of the second distortion.

[Confused]

The love in the moment may be love in the sense of the second distortion.

I do not understand this. Is it possible for you to explain, please? Love and second distortion?

[AnthroHeart]

The fact that the Logos is also Love explains, by the way, the common spiritual teaching that you are already enlightened and that there is no need to seek it.

You can only seek what you do not have, but since you are all, your seeking must mean that you do not realize that you already have it. Hence, in finding, you always find what was already there. Enlightenment is really just a joke, but you think it's totally serious until you get there.

What's even worse is I used to think that enlightenment was a requirement for harvest.

[βαθμιαίος]

I do not understand this. Is it possible for you to explain, please? Love and second distortion?

Sure. Ra uses the word "love" to refer both to fourth density and to the Logos (second distortion):

27.13 Questioner: Is Love— is there a manifestation of love that we could call vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom.

[Confused]

Sure. Ra uses the word "love" to refer both to fourth density and to the Logos (second distortion):

27.13 Questioner: Is Love— is there a manifestation of love that we could call vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom.

Ha, I see what you mean. Love as in being the creative principle, like Ra calls it. Thank you

[Bring4th_Austin]

The perfectly balanced entity also has free will. It could choose to respond to a situation with something other than love.

Perhaps it would perceive choice in the same way one would perceive a known illusion.

[AnthroHeart]

I do not understand this. Is it possible for you to explain, please? Love and second distortion?

Sure. Ra uses the word "love" to refer both to fourth density and to the Logos (second distortion):

27.13 Questioner: Is Love— is there a manifestation of love that we could call vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom.

Do you think that we as m/b/s complexes in 4D will automatically have lesser distortion towards love? Is that the nature of 4D? Or do we start 4D exactly where we are when we leave 3D?

My take is that if our choice is sufficient, when we walk the steps of light, it removes distortion, depending on how far we go. So as we're being harvested, distortion is being reduced, and vibration being raised.

[βαθμιαίος]

Perhaps it would perceive choice in the same way one would perceive a known illusion.

Do you see free will as an illusion, because there is only the One?

Do you think that we as m/b/s complexes in 4D will automatically have lesser distortion towards love? Is that the nature of 4D? Or do we start 4D exactly where we are when we leave 3D?

My take is that if our choice is sufficient, when we walk the steps of light, it removes distortion, depending on how far we go. So as we're being harvested, distortion is being reduced, and vibration being raised.

I agree with you. I think we'll start wherever we end up on the steps of light.

[Bring4th_Austin]

Perhaps it would perceive choice in the same way one would perceive a known illusion.

Do you see free will as an illusion, because there is only the One?

I view the separation between myself and the "Creator" as an illusion. If the realization that there is no separation between self and Creator is truly profound, how can that individual's will be other than that of the Creator's? The 3D analog for this being complete removal of distortion, or complete acceptance.

To take the illusion metaphor further.

Say you are presented with this popular optical illusion:


This illusion is presented along with a question: which line is longer, A, B, or neither?

Without knowing that it is an illusion, there is a knee jerk reaction. We do not question our response because we have no clue as to the true nature of the illusion, or even that it is an illusion.

Once you come to the realization that it is an illusion, the choice appears. You question your knee-jerk reaction because you realize that it is an illusion, yet you don't fully realize the true nature of the illusion. You can use tools and knowledge to discern a choice, and make that choice while still not knowing the true nature of the illusion. You truly have choice.

However, once the illusion's true nature is revealed to you, and you understand why this is an illusion, how it is "false," and that it isn't really as it seems, do you still have a choice? Sure, the choice is there...you can pick one or the other, but the true nature of the illusion is revealed to you. The choice is perceived, but there is only one truth. The illusion is gone and the truth from that point on is always available to you, no matter how much you should choose to ignore it.

[Patrick]

Ra used the phrase "...by desire, to seek the keys to unknowing".

[zenmaster]

Ra used the phrase "...by desire, to seek the keys to unknowing".

In which case 'unknowing' was specifically contrasted with 'collecting details'. I believe idea is that polarization and learning are possible without an increase in complexity.

[βαθμιαίος]

So Austin, do you think it's possible to maintain an unveiled state in third density?

[zenmaster]

Do you think that we as m/b/s complexes in 4D will automatically have lesser distortion towards love? Is that the nature of 4D? Or do we start 4D exactly where we are when we leave 3D?

You start of exactly where you were when you left 3D, as far as distortions.

My take is that if our choice is sufficient, when we walk the steps of light, it removes distortion, depending on how far we go.

No it doesn't remove distortion, as distortion is your current development (without its particular embodied expression).

So as we're being harvested, distortion is being reduced, and vibration being raised.

The idea is to ascertain an entity's overall vibration at that space/time by matching it with an ever increasing strength of light which directly corresponds to subdensity levels (steps).

[JustLikeYou]

Do you think that we as m/b/s complexes in 4D will automatically have lesser distortion towards love? Is that the nature of 4D? Or do we start 4D exactly where we are when we leave 3D?

My take is that if our choice is sufficient, when we walk the steps of light, it removes distortion, depending on how far we go. So as we're being harvested, distortion is being reduced, and vibration being raised.

When I was in third grade, I played the clarinet in band class. I practiced so much that I quickly became much better than all the other students in the class. The teacher, when he noticed how well I was doing, asked me to play one of the more difficult songs in the book (which I had nearly finished going through within the first month of class). After I played, he told me to come to the fourth grade band class next week.

When I started going to this class, I noticed that we were playing different kinds of songs. I noticed that the skills I'd taught myself when I was in the other class were helpful, but that there was alot more to playing the clarinet than I realized, and that synchronizing my playing with other people, especially ones who weren't playing clarinet, was difficult. It was something I hadn't done just a couple of months prior. Most importantly, it wasn't nearly as easy to simply take the First Chair position like it was in the last class.

Do we pick up where we left off? Sure. How can we not? But everything changes.

Think of 2D animal. They have moments of self-consciousness. You can see them get embarrassed or have a moment of self-discovery. But when they become 3D, suddenly they have permanent access to this concept of "I". We 3D beings cannot stop being aware of ourselves as selves the way 2D beings can. When we graduate, this will be true of love. We will not be able to just stop loving the way 3D beings can. The act of loving will be built into our 4D bodies the same way the state of self-awareness is built into our 3D bodies.

[Spaced]

Thank you JustLikeYou, I like that description a lot

[AnthroHeart]

Plus, without the veil in 4D we become more aware of our distortions, and can do more work on them. I've pierced the veil for moments, and seen videos on YouTube during those moments I have not seen since. It allows access to Universal truth.

[Bring4th_Austin]

So Austin, do you think it's possible to maintain an unveiled state in third density?

I don't know. I don't know if Ra's "perfectly balanced entity" can exist in 3D either.

Ra says, "Within the adept is the potential for dismantling the veil to a greater or lesser extent that all may be seen again as one." I don't fully understand what adepthood entails, and I don't fully understand what Ra's talking about here with regards to the veil. I don't expect that I will ever be close to complete balance or acceptance, I can't really speculate on the possibilities.

My illusion metaphor wasn't necessarily supposed to be a direct correlation to the veil, but rather to illustrate the "choice" which a perfectly balanced entity might have in a 3D state after acceptance is complete and all that is recognized is love, as I understand it.

[Confused]

Do you see free will as an illusion, because there is only the One?

I do not know whether free will is an illusion or not. However, I think the concept of what we know as free will has a form of flexibility that works in correlation in terms of the distance away from the centers of consciousness, with the great central heart (One Infinite Creator?) being the highest form of the locus.

82.10 Questioner: Why does this partaking in the original thought have a gradient radially outward? That’s the way I understand your statement.

Ra: I am Ra. This is the plan of the One Infinite Creator. The One Original Thought is the harvest of all previous, if you would use this term, experience of the Creator by the Creator. As It decides to know Itself It generates Itself into that plenum, full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space. Each generation of this knowing begets a knowing which has the capacity, through free will, to choose methods of knowing Itself. Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. This is for the purpose of refinement of the one original thought. The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself.

In other words, free will allows refinement.

81.30 Questioner: You stated earlier that toward the center of this galaxy is what, to use a poor term, you could call the older portion where you would find no service-to-self polarization. Am I correct in assuming that this is true with the other galaxies with which Wanderers from Ra have experience? At the center of these galaxies only the service-to-others polarity exists and the experiment started farther out toward the rim of the galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. Various Logoi and sub-Logoi had various methods of arriving at the discovery of the efficiency of free will in intensifying the experience of the Creator by the Creator. However, in each case this has been a pattern.

[Bring4th_Austin]

Do you see free will as an illusion, because there is only the One?

I do not know whether free will is an illusion or not. However, I think the concept of what we know as free will has a form of flexibility that works in correlation in terms of the distance away from the centers of consciousness, with the great central heart (One Infinite Creator?) being the highest form of the locus.

82.10 Questioner: Why does this partaking in the original thought have a gradient radially outward? That’s the way I understand your statement.

Ra: I am Ra. This is the plan of the One Infinite Creator. The One Original Thought is the harvest of all previous, if you would use this term, experience of the Creator by the Creator. As It decides to know Itself It generates Itself into that plenum, full of the glory and the power of the One Infinite Creator which is manifested to your perceptions as space or outer space. Each generation of this knowing begets a knowing which has the capacity, through free will, to choose methods of knowing Itself. Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought. This is for the purpose of refinement of the one original thought. The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself.

In other words, free will allows refinement.

81.30 Questioner: You stated earlier that toward the center of this galaxy is what, to use a poor term, you could call the older portion where you would find no service-to-self polarization. Am I correct in assuming that this is true with the other galaxies with which Wanderers from Ra have experience? At the center of these galaxies only the service-to-others polarity exists and the experiment started farther out toward the rim of the galaxy?

Ra: I am Ra. Various Logoi and sub-Logoi had various methods of arriving at the discovery of the efficiency of free will in intensifying the experience of the Creator by the Creator. However, in each case this has been a pattern.

Thanks for these quotes Confused!

This might help me expound on my previous speculation of the presence of choice, and an automatic response of love not necessarily meaning absence of free will.

"Therefore, gradually, step by step, the Creator becomes that which may know Itself, and the portions of the Creator partake less purely in the power of the original word or thought."

"Various Logoi and sub-Logoi had various methods of arriving at the discovery of the efficiency of free will in intensifying the experience of the Creator by the Creator."

Portions of the Creator become more and more distorted from the original thought, which was a result of (or resulted in?) greater free will. The more distortions, the more choices. However, as distortions are removed, the purity of the Creator is restored, and the choices collapse into a single state of being. That state of being is recognized at our level of progression as the "emotional response of love" with which the perfectly balanced entity responds to his attacker with. Other choices were a result of distortion, which has been removed.

[Confused]

I don't fully understand what adepthood entails...

Thanks for thanking, Austin!

I just ran a search for 'adept' at lawofone.info and found this quote, which may be useful in terms of speculating on what adepthood may entail. I too do not understand the subject

75.23 Questioner: I am sorry for my confusion. Sometimes, as you say, sound vibration complexes are not very adequate.

You made the statement in a previous session that the true adept lives more and more as it is. Will you explain and expand more upon that statement?

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity is the Creator. The entity, as it becomes more and more conscious of its self, gradually comes to the turning point at which it determines to seek either in service to others or in service to self. The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work.

The adept then begins to do less of the preliminary or outer work, having to do with function, and begins to effect the inner work which has to do with being. As the adept becomes a more and more consciously crystallized entity it gradually manifests more and more of that which it always has been since before time; that is, the One Infinite Creator.

[Bring4th_Austin]

"The adept then begins to do less of the preliminary or outer work, having to do with function, and begins to effect the inner work which has to do with being."

Perhaps this discussion is more closely related to adepthood than I realized.

[Patrick]

So Austin, do you think it's possible to maintain an unveiled state in third density?

Jesus seems to have been able to for some stretches of time at a time.

[Vasistha]

So Austin, do you think it's possible to maintain an unveiled state in third density?

Jesus seems to have been able to for some stretches of time at a time.

83.15 Questioner: Is the veil supposed to be what I would call semi-permeable?

Ra: I am Ra. The veil is indeed so.

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Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

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The advantage of time/space is that of the fluidity of the grand overview. The advantage of space/time is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances.

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Category: Before the Veil

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition. Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex. There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

Those are the main reason why the veil is never fully penetrated in 3D, at least on this planet. This is counter-productive.

[Patrick]

So Austin, do you think it's possible to maintain an unveiled state in third density?

Jesus seems to have been able to for some stretches of time at a time.

83.15 Questioner: Is the veil supposed to be what I would call semi-permeable?

Ra: I am Ra. The veil is indeed so.

....

Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

....

The advantage of time/space is that of the fluidity of the grand overview. The advantage of space/time is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances.

....

Category: Before the Veil

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition. Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex. There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

Those are the main reason why the veil is never fully penetrated in 3D, at least on this planet. This is counter-productive.

Indeed and in Jesus' case he had a special authorization from the Guardians to execute his mission on Earth. At least that is what I understood from the Q'uo channelings talking about the subject of Jesus and the veil.

[AnthroHeart]

Indeed and in Jesus' case he had a special authorization from the Guardians to execute his mission on Earth. At least that is what I understood from the Q'uo channelings talking about the subject of Jesus and the veil.

How do you know this? Was it from Q'uo?

[Vasistha]

Indeed and in Jesus' case he had a special authorization from the Guardians to execute his mission on Earth. At least that is what I understood from the Q'uo channelings talking about the subject of Jesus and the veil.

How do you know this? Was it from Q'uo?

Ra talks a little about it.

17.11 Questioner: Yes. What I meant to say was can you tell me if Jesus of Nazareth came from the Confederation before incarnation here?

Ra: I am Ra. The one known to you as Jesus of Nazareth did not have a name. This entity was a member of fourth density of the highest level of that sub-octave. This entity was desirous of entering this planetary sphere in order to share the love vibration in as pure a manner as possible. Thus, this entity received permission to perform this mission. This entity was then a Wanderer of no name, of Confederation origins, of fourth density, representing the fourth-density understanding of the vibration of understanding or love.

[Patrick]

Indeed and in Jesus' case he had a special authorization from the Guardians to execute his mission on Earth. At least that is what I understood from the Q'uo channelings talking about the subject of Jesus and the veil.

How do you know this? Was it from Q'uo?

Yes from a Q'uo channeling. Q'uo was saying that Jesus, for small periods of time, became the Logos experiencing third density directly.

[zenmaster]

Wasn't going to touch the premise that Jesus was 'perfectly balanced' as I believe this would probably not be possible. The concept of perfection itself, however can exist under constraints of choice vs opportunity.