Spaceship Moon

[Sagittarius]

have you seen Moon with Sam Rockwell?

No, I haven't. But after reading the synopsis on wikipedia, I'd like to. It sounds good. Did you know David Bowie's son, Duncan, directed it? How cool is that...? The Man Who Fell To Earth....

Sam Rockwell and Duncan Bowie

It's quite good, I like Sam Rockwell a lot great actor imo.

Man David Bowie sure was one interesting character, I think the fact he is a starseed is quite obvious, I mean his ex-wife did accuse him of being an alien lol.

[Oceania]

i love Sam Rockwell.

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Astrophysicists: Phobos is a giant spaceship orbiting Mars

Phobos is spaceship says famous scientist, Astrophysicist Dr. Iosif Samuilovich Shklovsky

Shklovsky calculated the orbital motion of Martian satellite Phobos and came to the jaw-dropping conclusion that the moon is artificial, hollow, and basically a titanic spaceship. But Shklovsky was not the first one to believe this. First to put forward his ideas that the Martian moon Phobos, generally accepted as a celestial body, actually may be an artificial satellite launched long ago by an advanced Martian race, was Dr. S. Fred Singer, special advisor to President Eisenhower on space developments. No mention was made of the other Mars moon, Deimos.

Now Shklovsky say that for the atmosphere to be responsible, Phobos would have to be hollow, like an Easter Egg. If the moon were solid rock, the atmosphere would have little effect. A hollow moon would be susceptible because it contained so much less mass. But if the moon were hollow, it could not be a natural object. It therefore it must be artificial made! In 1963, Raymond H. Wilson Jr., Chief of Applied Mathematics at NASA, joined Shklovsky and Dr. Singer in their Martian conclusions. He stated that “Phobos might be a colossal base orbiting Mars.” He also stated that NASA itself was considering the possibility, and was planning for special probes that would answer the question. ESA ( Eternal Secrecy Applied )hmm also say, Its origin is debated. It appears to share many surface characteristics with the class of ‘carbonaceous C-type’ asteroids, which suggests it might have been captured from this population. However, it is difficult to explain either the capture mechanism or the subsequent evolution of the orbit into the equatorial plane of Mars.

The scientist is world-renown for penning the classic science book, “Intelligent Life in the Universe” with famous Cornell University professor, the late Carl Sagan of PBS and Voyager space probe fame. Mars’ two moons, Phobos and Deimos, translate into “fear” and “horror.” As Mars is named after the god of war, the names seem appropriate. Both satellites were discovered in 1877 by U.S. astronomer Asaph Hall who never guessed they were artificial. Both moons are extremely odd, especially the tumbling moon of fear: Phobos.

Shklovsky puzzled over them. First, both moons are too small. No other planet in the solar system has moons as tiny as the Martian moons. They’re unique. Second, their origin bothered him. Were they captured asteroids as others assumed? No, they could not be! Their orbital plane was all wrong. And they’re too close to Mars. Much too close. Even more amazing–Phobos changes its speed from time to time. Impossible, yet true!

read more: http://reinep.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/a...iting-mars

[Ashim]

Just watched 'moon'. Pretty good film, nice work from Duncan Jones.
I sort of knew in advance what was happening so that sort of spoilt it - but anyways a good flick with a great actor.

[Sagittarius]

Just watched 'moon'. Pretty good film, nice work from Duncan Jones.
I sort of knew in advance what was happening so that sort of spoilt it - but anyways a good flick with a great actor.

It's funny how lately every movie I see I can pretty much tell what will happen, even watching older movies I have seen before I see the symbolism.

Funny how when your awake everything seams to be telling the same story just in different ways. Kind of frustrating when it's so easy to see for us yet the blinded see nothing consciously. Oh well at least they will get the picture in there sub-conscious the useless bastards.

[indolering]

Here's a video which discusses the hollow earth theory, which begins with the hollow moon theory...it won't be much longer before even mainstream scientists will have to admit the truth of hollow planets and planetoids. It's possible that all planets are formed relatively hollow.




Hollow Planets by Jan Lamprecht

[Parsons]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but, I have lost interest in knowing precisely what role Luna will play Soon™ in consensus reality. I asked the GW_V source a couple of questions about Luna, and got the "infringement firewall" (as I like to think of it):

Also, if it doesn't eat up too much of your time for other's questions: How long has Luna been in orbit around our sphere? And what is the significance of the moon appearing in the sky nearly precisely the same size as the sun and rotating in time with the sun so we never see the dark side? Q'uo was asked this, but did not seem to be able to come up with an answer about it, but did mention it had some significance (but they simply did not know what it was).

Information on the nature of the lunar satellite orbiting this planet cannot be fully divulged although it suffices to say that it did not originate alongside this planet, its means of construction were both natural and artificial, and its existence serves the purpose of creating a set and overarching display of polarity in plain view of this planet's inhabitants.

So, making an assumption on this, I am going to suppose this has a really good reason for not being able to get an answer on this. This, to me, tells me that it is going to play such a major role in the near future that it would be like spoiling a cosmic-scale movie plot ending.

So, holding no attachment to what exactly will happen with this, I can safely grab the popcorn and sit back and wait. Just having the naked eye observations of the moon plus the simple comparison of diameter and mass of the moon to Terra, is enough to raise a permanent eyebrow towards the satellite.

[indolering]

It's fascinating to me, the whole scientific and conspiratorial nature of this conundrum, the artificial moon. I mean, for thousands of years men have gazed up at the moon and wondered...but few have suspected that it was actually a vessel placed in orbit to monitor and influence the planet. We are the first 3D beings who have uncovered the true nature of this mysterious orb.
I guess it takes an interest in astronomy and metaphysics to resonate with this information. David Icke and others (like Barbara Marciniak) have speculated that the moon is being used as a beacon to beam a false reality to Earth which actually originates on Saturn. This is done to further entrain human thought and emotion into negative channels, facilitating the manufacture of a slave race.

This also tells us that the primary motivation for the takeover of planet Earth emanates from off-world ETs who use the Illuminati to do their bidding.

[Ashim]

The moon is the Creator going "nudge nudge, wink wink."

[indolering]

The moon is the Creator going "nudge nudge, wink wink."

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Rense – Proof Of Life On Mars with Rivers, Lakes, Waterfalls And Forests

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David Icke talks about the moon and its origin. He supports, as do I, the soviet theory that the moon is a hollowed out planetoid brought here to manipulate the Earth....

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Thanks for removing the spam....

[Parsons]

Lololol, coicidence spammer goes nuts on the forums while we are all busy at homecoming? :p

[Patrick]

I notified our friends at homecoming via SMS and as soon as a computer is available they'll kill the spam bot.

In the meantime, we'll have to tough it out.

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[indolering]

I'm posting this to stimulate thought and interest, not because I think it's entirely accurate. It accentuates the fact, however, that the space program is intentionally stalled to prevent the public from realizing the extent to which the secret space program has already penetrated out into the solar system. The controllers know exactly who and what is on the moon and also on Mars, which I'm convinced has been successfully colonized in a limited fashion. This should surprise no one who has researched the illuminati bloodlines...they horde secrets galore and space travel is one of them. The Apollo missions cannot be completely trusted because of all the lies, but I have to believe the secret space program is alive and well - as Ben Rich, former Director of Lockheed Skunk Works, stated before he died:

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out in the open."

[BrownEye]

[Parsons]

Hmm, I wonder how this plays into the spaceship moon theory:

"GRAIL Maps the Moon's Gravity"
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130319.html

[AnthroHeart]

I wonder if they've mapped Earth's gravity. I don't know what that moon gravity mapping means? Does it show artificial gravity?

[Parsons]

It shows how intense gravity is in different areas.

[Marc]

Has anybody read the Daniel paper on this subject? It makes a ton of sense to me.
http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/...nology.pdf

[Ashim]

Has anybody read the Daniel paper on this subject? It makes a ton of sense to me.
http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/...nology.pdf

Yes. Great stuff.
Has been discussed here already.
Here are 2 threads.

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...ght=daniel
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...ght=daniel

[indolering]

Has anybody read the Daniel paper on this subject? It makes a ton of sense to me.
http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/...nology.pdf

Thanks, Marc, I've not seen this before. Looks interesting. I'll read through it tonight or tomorrow.

Has anybody read the Daniel paper on this subject? It makes a ton of sense to me.
http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/...nology.pdf

Yes. Great stuff.
Has been discussed here already.
Here are 2 threads.

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...ght=daniel
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...ght=daniel

I haven't seen these threads before. Thanks for the links.

[Ashim]

Here, keep in mind that your Moon is really a vast artificial orb that was created, originally, to be the protector of the planet you call 'Maldek'. Today, Maldek is just an asteroid belt that exists between Mars and Jupiter. In former times, it was an Earth-like world nearly 29,000 miles (46,690 kilometers) in diameter, which, for over one million years, served as the "Dark" Anchara Alliance's Headquarters. Galactic Federation forces later destroyed this Planet, in order to re-colonize your Solar System. Much later, forces loyal to Atlantis put your Moon in its present position in order to attack and destroy Lemuria. The Moon has a number of important capabilities. First, it can control your global weather patterns, as well as your Planet's electrical and magnetic grids. Second, it can control the rate of movement of Earth's tectonic plates, as well as the degree of up-welling of the mantle's molten materials. In short, it is a device that can easily manipulate your environment. Third, the Moon can regulate the amount of life-giving energies that travel from the Sun to the Earth.

Source: http://www.thenewearth.org/GalacticFeder...chive.html

[Parsons]

Yep, every single thing (so far) that has the name "Galactic Federation" attached to it has been extremely dubious in nature.

[Ashim]

Yep, every single thing (so far) that has the name "Galactic Federation" attached to it has been extremely dubious in nature.

So you read and considered 'every single thing' claiming to be from the Federation? That's a hell of a lot of work for a self proclaimed 'amatuer'.
This may be news to you but there IS a Galactic Federation - sure psy-ops have been in operation to discredit and generally taint the Federation with a bum fluff 'new age' stigma - but just read between the lines and take what resonates. As a stated before on the forum I have used Federation teleport technology - it and the Federation are VERY real.

[Parsons]

The quote you posted claiming the 'Galactic Federation' blew up Maldek directly conflicts with what the Ra material says happened to Maldek... No I have not read and considered everything from the GF, but every single I've seen from them doesn't resonate/seems dubious.

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That quote also conflicts with what the Ra material said about Lemuria...

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I enjoyed this short article and thought it would be appropriate here...
(edit: I intended to post this in the Silver & Gold thread. Sorry.)

Where Will You Be When The Music Stops?

by Zen Gardner

Where will you be? Where will I be? We all know it’s coming. To ignore it is tantamount to insanity. At this point we’re playing musical chairs and everyone knows that clear underlying truth somewhere in their being.
When the music stops is where you will be. Period.
Anyone the least bit aware knows the seriousness of our pending manipulated world situation and has food, water and other supplies and contingency plans. If they don’t they’re asleep and dangerous. The decidedly unprepared are the ones who will freak out and mooch off the first succulent neighbor they can find. Just another symptom of the selfish, parasitic driven reality we live in.
Me first, and what’s yours is mine in a pinch. But there’s a way to avoid that scenario.

Being Ready – Are You Asleep or Awake?

Good question. I think location, where Universe wants you and has been steering you is the key. Naturally, Universe is wherever we are. But there are always decisions to be made. And thankfully wherever we are is where we are.
If you can fully grok that.
Except perhaps, if we’re too dumb or insensitive to get to this better place we’ve been shown, at least any thinking person should at least prepare for where they are. What is the excuse for humanity to be hiding its head in the sand in the light of such globalist attacks as we’re sustaining and know they’re planning?

Is intentional government induced dependency the solution? No wonder they’ve created that paradigm. So FEMA the reamer will save you? Doctor Doolittle and his doodlers? C’mon folks! Will the “authorities” who’ve taken away all of your civil and personal rights as they militarize your streets help you?
Think about this.
And this is just the culmination of an increasingly fascistic society. It’s been going on for years and has now metastasized to a monster control system. And one of their central signals is to tell you “all is well”. Sorry, it’s far from well, and is about to shut down any minute.

Musical Chairs

I’ve lived in countries experiencing revolutions, martial law and uprisings. It’s no joke. Americans are about to be woken up so horrifically I personally do not want to be here to witness it first hand. Americans are so sheltered and spoiled they will freak out to such a degree that the rest of the world is going to stand back in absolute shock and awe.
The “great whore is fallen”…and she will fall hard.
It’s estimated there are between 3 and 5 days of food on the currently available supply circuit in the US at any given time. That’s down from 6 months of food from only a few decades ago. Mega cities where the sheep have been deliberately corralled will be decimated if the system shuts down. If that isn’t Orwellian enough, those who “hoard” more than 6 days of food are now suspected terrorists.
Anyone seeing a pattern here?

Where Will You Be?

Getting the picture? Where will you be? Is your current situation endurable for you and your family and loved ones? Do you have community to help pull together during such a shut down for whatever reason?
That’s the key.
Conscious community. Loving empathetic cooperation in times of stress. But without grasping the drastic nature of what is about to befall us is foolishness, denial, the worst form of sticking our heads in the sand while the whirlwind blows our butts to high heaven.

Real Survival

It’s consciousness; conscious awakened awareness. All else follows. We’re in a spiritual warfare first and foremost. When that’s won, everything else follows….and happily.
If that isn’t clear then keep pursuing and figure it out. But prepare. The shitstorm is coming….very soon.

The loving, conscious thing is to be ready.

Much love, Zen

http://www.zengardner.com/where-will-you...sic-stops/

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A little music for my friends here on the forum....
From my favourite Police album...

[indolering]

How did water from Earth end up on the moon? Scientist's analysis of lunar rocks find moisture is identical to our own

Lunar rocks brought home by US astronauts contain droplets of water chemically identical to those on Earth
Research may change our understanding of the Moon's formation

By SAM WEBB
10 May 2013

Water inside the Moon’s mantle came from primitive meteorites - the same source thought to have supplied most of the water on Earth, according to new research.
The findings, from an analysis of lunar rocks brought back by US astronauts, raise new questions about the process that formed the Moon.
The Moon is thought to have formed from a disc of debris left when a giant object hit the Earth 4.5 billion years ago, very early in Earth’s history.
Imported water: Scientists believe water found on the Moon is the same as here on Earth

LUNAR ROCKS
The latest results come from studies samples returned from the moon, including green-tinged stone collected by Apollo 15 in 1971, and orange material gathered by Apollo 17 in 1972.
The surprise discovery of the green rock, by Commander Dave Scott and lunar module pilot Jim Irwin, sparked a lengthy debate among the astronauts about the boulder's true colour while Nasa controllers listened in.
Scientists have long assumed that the heat from an impact of that size would cause hydrogen and other volatile elements to boil off into space, meaning the Moon must have started off completely dry.

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But recently, NASA spacecraft and new research on samples from the Apollo missions have shown that the Moon actually has water, both on its surface and beneath.
By showing that water on the Moon and on Earth came from the same source, this new study offers yet more evidence that the Moon’s water has been there all along.
'The simplest explanation for what we found is that there was water on the proto-Earth at the time of the giant impact,' said Alberto Saal, associate professor of Geological Sciences at Brown University and the study’s lead author.
'Some of that water survived the impact, and that’s what we see in the Moon.'
To find the origin of the Moon’s water, Saal and his colleagues looked at melt inclusions found in samples brought back from the Apollo missions.

HOW WAS THE MOON FORMED?
Debate still rages over exactly how the moon was formed.
According to the leading theory, the moon was formed about 4.5bn years ago, from a hot cloud of debris that was knocked into space when a planet the size of Mars slammed into Earth.
Astronomers have carried out numerous simulations of the impact event, and many believe it to be the most likely explanation.
The latest findings suggest the Earth was already damp at the time the moon was created.
'The simplest explanation for what we found is that there was water on the proto-Earth at the time of the giant impact,' said Alberto Saal, associate professor of Geological Sciences at Brown University and the study’s lead author.
'Some of that water survived the impact, and that’s what we see in the Moon.
Melt inclusions are tiny dots of volcanic glass trapped within crystals called olivine.
The crystals prevent water escaping during an eruption and enable researchers to get an idea of what the inside of the Moon is like.
Research from 2011 found that the melt inclusions have plenty of water — as much water in fact as lavas forming on the Earth’s ocean floor.
This study aimed to find the origin of that water.
Comets, like meteorites, are known to carry water and other volatiles, but most comets formed in the far reaches of the solar system in a formation called the Oort Cloud.
Because they formed so far from the sun, they tend to have high deuterium/hydrogen ratios — much higher ratios than in the Moon’s interior, where the samples in this study came from.
'The measurements themselves were very difficult,' Hauri said, 'but the new data provide the best evidence yet that the carbon-bearing chondrites were a common source for the volatiles in the Earth and Moon, and perhaps the entire inner solar system.'
Recent research, Saal said, has found that as much as 98 percent of the water on Earth also comes from primitive meteorites, suggesting a common source for water on Earth and water on Moon.
The easiest way to explain that, Saal says, is that the water was already present on the early Earth and was transferred to the Moon.
The finding is not necessarily inconsistent with the idea that the Moon was formed by a giant impact with the early Earth, but presents a problem.
If the Moon is made from material that came from the Earth, it makes sense that the water in both would share a common source.
However, the team say there is still the question of how that water was able to survive such a violent collision.
'The impact somehow didn’t cause all the water to be lost,' Saal said. 'But we don’t know what that process would be.'
It suggests, the researchers say, that there are some important processes we don’t yet understand about how planets and satellites are formed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...-ours.html

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From previous article:

HOW WAS THE MOON FORMED?
Debate still rages over exactly how the moon was formed.
According to the leading theory, the moon was formed about 4.5bn years ago, from a hot cloud of debris that was knocked into space when a planet the size of Mars slammed into Earth.
Astronomers have carried out numerous simulations of the impact event, and many believe it to be the most likely explanation.
The latest findings suggest the Earth was already damp at the time the moon was created.
'The simplest explanation for what we found is that there was water on the proto-Earth at the time of the giant impact,' said Alberto Saal, associate professor of Geological Sciences at Brown University and the study’s lead author.
'Some of that water survived the impact, and that’s what we see in the Moon.

Wild speculation which does not accord with the evidence of the age of moon rocks nor their composition.