What's the difference between a social memory complex and The Borg?

[godwide_void]

Why the unsettling emoticon, my brother? What meaning does 6:06 have to you?

[Ashim]

Sorry, im typing in the dark here.
606 is imo the number of satan.
Lucifer -666, Satan 606

[Ali Quadir]

Make sure you don't type the wrong number. They get terribly cross if you accidentally call the wrong one... :/

[Ashim]

I've had them both on the line already - and have lived to tell the tale.
Satan had bad breath.

[native]

Privacy only exists because those we imagine ourselves to be private towards believe in the separation as much as we do. This separation is illusory but still real enough.

Going along with that..

The cross formed by the living limbs of the image signifies that which is the nature of mind/body/spirit complexes in manifestation within your illusion. There is no experience which is not purchased by effort of some kind, no act of service to self or others which does not bear a price, to the entity manifesting, commensurate with its purity. All things in manifestation may be seen in one way or another to be offering themselves in order that transformations may take place upon the level appropriate to the action.

So we're already a complex in which action has consequence, we're just veiled from feeling the feedback immediately within us at the moment. We experience catalyst "out there".

[Tango]

This is my suggestion to you dear Lulu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Wx230gYJw

OMG Ashim! I love you. You just made my day with your link ... now one of my permanent tools ... PERFECT for me ... thank you.

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Lulu my friend, my statement has nothing to do with 3d.

Social memory complexes begins in 4d. And there is nothing like what you described in 4d positive.

thank you for letting me know...

Sorry for my crankiness, it's just f*cking disturbing how much I can feel others. I am so disgusted and angry about having to feel the sickness (anxiety, stress, projections) of others that I am about to become the meanest negative entity on the planet --if that is possible. Just so it will have to be solved and they will be held accountable to how they are effecting others. If blissing out and loving them worked, believe me, I would have been more then happy to have kept on doing that, but it doesn't. It actually causes ME to be MORE sensitive and helpless in the environment of others.

I have the choice to abandon ship. Which always sounds heavenly but rather cruel to a few that I do care about, who do try to be accountable. OR become a hermit again and ever ONLY be around people who do not affect me in a negative way (nearly impossible). OR find a way to call in other beings to assist in this issue no matter what is the outcome or detriment of the others, solely to serve myself as the creator, as one. (white lights and all those shield techniques are completely useless, I've tried them all. I'm about to call in Satan and his legions to do their work).

I will feel refreshed and happy until I am in the presence of others, then get so sick around some people that I sometimes almost throw up. Then I come take it all out on you guys ;-) and start feeling stuff from you. By the way these are normal healthy people, some that eat perfect vegan diets some that are seekers etc...

Anyways --if I vanish it's because I might need to take a break.

LuLu, I sincerely hope you don't "vanish" because I find inspirational beauty and courage in your unveiled honesty....experiences that I too can relate and thus feel less isolated ... all because of your example ... to be exactly who you are ... at any given moment...regardless how you might be perceived or judged by others! In other words .... you deeply inspire me to find my own courage to be authentic; without regard!!! Many hugs and much love!

[Ali Quadir]

So we're already a complex in which action has consequence, we're just veiled from feeling the feedback immediately within us at the moment. We experience catalyst "out there".

I think that's a very sound conclusion. Not all the feedback is out there, but I expect that the initial feedback usually will be...

[native]

I think that's a very sound conclusion. Not all the feedback is out there, but I expect that the initial feedback usually will be...

This is related to the initiation of the body.

[3DMonkey]

I think a true social memory complex would be a sphere rather than a cube.

[Diana]

I think a true social memory complex would be a sphere rather than a cube.

It was metaphorical. A hypercube is easier to imagine and think upon than a hypershere (3-sphere).

[kycahi]

The Borg was a great invention by the Star Trek writers, giving their viewers a lot to ponder. They likely were plugged into some partial "greater truth" than mere fiction.

Human nature is brilliantly adaptable. Some people, for one reason or another, tend to be shunned by society. They might feel bad about that for awhile, but then they move out to a wilderness and find some kind of contentment living away from others. They even will say that they prefer being alone. We live in the 3D with no possibility of being in (or, for now, returning to) a SMC. So we might say that we like our own self identity and prefer that to being part of a group of loving and sharing like-minded selves. When the time comes, though, to (re)join a SMC, I think we will feel a huge relief from pathetic loneliness and embrace the large and wondrous body of close friends.

[ZenDunk]

In the Star Trek stories do the borg characters have a queen/king of their "hive"? Or any hierarchy/ranks?

(I only watched the older star treks, I did see the Borg in commercials advertising the next gen show, never did get into the new ones though)


May the 4th be with you!

[Patrick]

Yes. There is a queen.

[Steppingfeet]

Social memory complexes share all thoughts, have no privacy, and all "units" in the complex do the will of the complex. Unity100 once claimed it is impossible to disagree with the social memory complex when you are within it.

Isn't this identical to the borg?

The borg assimilates your biological and cultural material into its own structure, tears down the walls of individuality and creates a collective with a hive mind.

What role will personality and personal choice have in a social memory complex?

What will happen if your personal choice differs from the choice of the majority of the complex, or someone else in the complex, or are you even capable of making a choice that is different from the complex?

The statement "All is One" is Borg-like. Are social memory complexes compatible with individualism? Are they a kind of herd mind like the mind of a bunch of water buffalos for instance that moves as a herd and everyone is careful to follow the herd?

How does a social memory complex reconcile itself with individualism?

Regarding whether individuality is maintained within a social memory complex, Ra says:

16.50: That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.

Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thoughts of other-selves; it is a plane where one is aware of vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.

My take on the question of the role of the individual, and whether the entity is an "individual" in the social memory complex is this:

The individual entity in a social memory complex is perhaps something akin to a musical note in a symphony.

The note is distinct and its own, but the note (as with all other notes) is simultaneously aware of the entire movement and overall melody or song. The individual musical note cannot but play its part and vibrate its frequency in harmony with the whole.

The individual note, like all notes, works together in perfect proportion and relationship to form a whole larger than the constituent parts. Being fully aware of the entire symphony, it cannot act otherwise; it cannot be out of sync with the musical score. It willingly, gladly, joyfully plays its part, while not surrendering the identity that makes it the distinct note that it is.

A possible clarifying analogy. My musical note in this discussion. GLB