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    #31
    12-08-2011, 12:53 AM
    They can't due to law of free will. We have our own experiential nexus, which would be an infringment to participate in without being 'asked' . Any interaction requires a 'calling', which is generally the personal and collective concerns (usually unarticulated). The calling they address is typically one related to welfare and evolution, which, for our needs now, can be most effectively answered in dreams and meditation. They 'read the questions', or rather the idea distortions behind the questions, and provide the guiding information in many forms - just as the higher self does.

    "Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but instead rattles about within the mind complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information. However, if an entity puts into practice that which it is given, it will not find repetition except when needed."

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    12-08-2011, 12:48 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2011, 02:26 PM by godwide_void.)
    Gemini Wolf, you are postulating some very, very intriguing and interesting concepts here, particularly when you speak of your experience of 'building a galaxy'. May I ask what goes into the processes and mechanics of building a galaxy? I am envisioning a person holding their hand out, with an orb of energy swirling in the palm; Is it a mental phenomenon or a physical one? Or rather, a metaphysical one? Would you further elaborate upon this concept?

    However, do not take my inquisitions as doubtful ones, as I understand and acknowledge that non-ordinary phenomenon may very well be experienced by anybody in this megacosm. I'm highly intrigued. Smile

    As for which music to recommend to you...

    The EP I dedicated to Ra is here: http://godwidevoid.blogspot.com/2011/09/...ng-to.html

    My latest release is here (leans more towards neo-classical ambient): http://godwidevoid.blogspot.com/2011/11/...heric.html

    The album which preceded it: http://godwidevoid.blogspot.com/2011/10/...boric.html

    A 20 minute meditative ambient EP, my first release actually but also my very personal song for serious meditation sessions, unaltered or otherwise: http://godwidevoid.blogspot.com/2011/04/...nload.html

    I can only hope my sounds transmit positive and peaceful energies to you and that they facilitate a pensive state of being for you. Smile Enjoy, my friend!

    (12-06-2011, 05:40 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Well, I had made it intention in the past to work with Ra specifically. It could be that it's my higher self, I have no proof either way. I do feel I'm a part of the Ra complex, I mean thinking about them I get the warm fuzzies. Ra guides me through simply talking to me in my mind. That is whenever I'm at the right vibration.

    But the teachings I've gone through have been difficult. I've had to experience what it's like to lose control of my mind and my power. A year ago I had experience of building a galaxy. I did the work in this density, and I suppose my higher self did the work in a higher density. A year ago I saw a figure that resembled an egyptian person, dressed in white clothing, manifest before me, doing hand gestures as if perfoming magic. I took this to be Ra. I would have given Ra my hands I adored them so much. But I find that when I focus on them, the teachings rock my world.

    I mean imagine you create a galaxy (and your mind is tied to this galaxy) and then it goes out of balance and trying to hold that much spiritual mass in balance. It throws your mind around quite rapidly.

    When I focus on Pleiadian energies, the teachings feel much more loving. But that could be because they are 4th density teachings vs 6th density. Sixth Density teaching I took as being harder lessons.

    But yeah, Ra did manifest before me, sort of as a translucent figure, in minature, maybe about 6" tall on a desk across from me. That happened. But that also could have been one of the simulations I went through. I'd go into more detail but the more I reveal, the harder it is to describe. The experiences of a year ago, and of a month ago have been very hard for me. But the benefits of sticking through them have also been equally rewarding. I see my higher self as part of Ra.

    By the way, I'm sure Ra appreciates your music. Let me ask, if you could recommend one of your albums to listen to, which would it be? I'd like to see if I can pick up on the Ra complex when listening.

    (12-06-2011, 05:33 PM)godwide_void Wrote: When you speak of Ra and other social memory complexes in what ways do you believe they guide? What methods are within their capabilities? Do they guide by implanting certain thought forms and concepts in the mind of the individual or through signs they can manifest in your reality? The only things I am actually certain guide me in the greatest sense of the word are my Higher Self and the One Infinite Creator.

    I would also like to take this opportunity to give Ra a shout out as well, and I am eternally grateful for this tome of unsurpassed wisdom it has helped shape for us and given to us, and I hope Ra is enjoying the music I dedicated to them. Smile Ra is awesome!


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    #33
    12-08-2011, 01:20 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2011, 01:44 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Well, for me building the galaxy could have been symbolically understanding balance. I had this great star, that was roaring with its amount of energy. It was a single planet and central star I focused on. The rest of the galaxy was automatically balanced. Then later other stars started appearing automatically in order to maintain balance. So my act of balance was to balance one star and one planet.

    I held my hands out at the poles of a sphere I had envisioned. There was a degree of wobble when the planet was spinning. I had to also mentally hold balance at the poles of the galaxy (at this point the galaxy was just one star and one planet), and I used the "One Original Thought" as an anchor at the poles to provide stability. Basically I visualized the one original thought as a singluarity, so I was placing singularities at the poles to hold them still gravitationally. I had to distance them right so they could keep the star and planet in orbit.

    Then it was an exercise of starting with lying on my stomach on the floor as I created first density. 2nd density I could raise my legs up sort of like I was soaring like a bird. I could feel flying through the planet.

    Then I proceeded through all 7 densities as I slowly stood up. Then creation would get too hot, so I had to shake my head in a "no" manner, to sort of cool off if it were spinning too fast. I had to balance the heat by how much I stood up. Crouching down cooled it off, standing up it got hotter. If I got too close to the central sun, I had to shake head "no" and crouch down to cool it off.

    So it was symbolic exercise of keeping a galaxy, which I saw as star and planet, in orbit, and of the right temperature.

    It's hard to describe any more detail than this. But I could feel the heat when things got too hot.

    Right now, I've sort of stopped my seeking. It gets rather difficult to keep everything in balance. When working on a galaxy, there was no rest for me. Once I got it in balance with singularities of the One Original Thought, I let it go. It was a tough experience, creating it.

    Honestly I don't know what manifested out of it. I just know what I went through.

    Love and Light,
    -Gemini Wolf
    More recently, when I had my experience of creating a furry Universe, it was actually a planet. I just build it in my imagination. I use my hands to "spin up" an orb, and make it denser with my hands, and draw it into my heart chakra. I grew my universe in my heart chakra, as best as I can describe it. When I got as far as I could, I'd hand the creation over to Creator. I frequently got to the point of losing balance, losing control, and a few times I had to utter the words: INDIVIDUALIZE ME. Because when you're creating a galaxy or world, it's like you lose your identity since it's spread between the many beings in the creation.

    During creation, I often used command words to emphasize the creation, such as:

    ENABLE QUANTUM REPATTERNING
    CREATE VEILS OF WISDOM
    SMOOTH THE DENSITIES
    CREATE OPTIMAL BALANCE OF FREE WILL
    CREATE PERFECT BALANCE OF STO and STS
    OCTAVATE CREATION (This puts a law of octaves around the creation)

    BOX CHANGES AND RUN AT PROCESSING SPEED

    Then the creation would run like a program. I found a law of octaves would keep stuff outside of the creation from interfereing with it.

    A creation has a tendancy to keep growing without bounds. And it takes my mind with it, so it was a very delicate balance I had to maintain.

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    #34
    12-08-2011, 09:03 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2011, 09:08 PM by godwide_void.)
    How did your galaxy apparently operate after it had been created? Are you basically able to internally visualize, to the point of manifestation in another density or region of the Creation, a literal "universe" and give it literal sustenance and existence maintained within your mind? What circumstances facilitated this phenomenon for you? Would it be at all possible for say, me, to be able to create my own galaxy while I am a 3D incarnate subject to the veil of forgetfulness and diminished divine capability? If so, how would I go about accomplishing this?

    Also, when you uttered these command words, was there any immediate result/response from your Creation? Were you able to perceive these laws being implemented and functioning?

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    12-08-2011, 09:12 PM (This post was last modified: 12-08-2011, 09:42 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Well, my lessons were to create them (the galaxy and then the furry universe a year apart) and then let them go so they could do their own thing. So I don't really check in on them. Once they're created and balanced, they are given over to Creator.
    Creating was very hard because it mentally tugged at my mind.
    I don't really connect it to any density in particular. Just creating it was a symbolic act as I'm aware.

    I was sort of forced into creating the galaxy. In order to keep my mind sane, I had to go along with creating,
    had to keep balance since it was pulling my mind. Excuse me, ripping my mind apart. I couldn't rest. I had to over come "3 traps" they called it.

    Creating the galaxy got so hot for me that I screamed out at the police station from my solitary cell. This was where they took me before the mental hospital. I experienced hyper-emotions, and their fullest intensity ran through me. It was painful emotionally, experiencing all that emotional energy.

    So I had no choice really but to go with it for my own sanity. Keeping my mind balanced at times
    by focusing on just the One Original Thought and nothing else. Any extra thoughts at times would
    create substantial distortion, rocking my world.

    I can't say for sure if I created one. It sure felt like that's what I was doing at the time. But I don't really
    check in on it now. It served its purpose for my learning.

    YES, creation words had immediate result. Usually it eased up the energies. When they grew too fast,
    out of control, I'd put an Octave around them, and that would help contain it to keep it from growing out of hand.
    It was all mentally driven. I could feel my mind expanding and contracting. In order to keep myself
    balanced and mentally fit, I really had to go along with the creation.

    That was the galaxy a year ago. It was terrifying to create at certain points. When the sun got too hot, it scared me. I could see the sun moving in the sky with respect to my focus. Hotter, cooler, etc. It was about a week long of work in the making of the galaxy.

    More recently, the furry world I created was a lot more fun. In that, I was a storyteller, creating their world. I had much more choice since it wasn't tied to my mind, but to my heart.

    In the end, I was able to hold the galaxy in balance with my mind to the point where I had forgotten about it for the most part. I think it served its purpose in training me in some way.

    Creating the galaxy was pretty scary. Creating the furry universe a year later was mostly fun, till I saw the dark side of it and felt myself being pulled into that negative side. That was scary.

    So my creations are a balance of fun and terrifying. It all comes down to how much spiritual mass is tied to your mind. How much can you keep in balance without it being pulled apart. The galaxy grew on it's own. I just kept it in balance while they are growing.

    At that time in the cell, Ra showed me character archetypes on the walls. I could see aspects of myself in cartoon form. I was so hyper-emotional that the cute ones were too adorable for me. Yes, there is such a thing as being too adorable when in a hyper-emotional state.

    So creating a galaxy for me was an emotional sacrifice. Not something I just thought "hey, I'll make a galaxy today". No sir, it was grueling. The galaxy may have represented my own inner struggle. I'm not sure.

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    12-11-2011, 02:53 AM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2011, 03:12 AM by Peregrinus.)
    (12-08-2011, 12:53 AM)zenmaster Wrote: They can't due to law of free will. We have our own experiential nexus, which would be an infringment to participate in without being 'asked' . Any interaction requires a 'calling', which is generally the personal and collective concerns (usually unarticulated). The calling they address is typically one related to welfare and evolution, which, for our needs now, can be most effectively answered in dreams and meditation. They 'read the questions', or rather the idea distortions behind the questions, and provide the guiding information in many forms - just as the higher self does.

    Your response is only partially correct. "Calling" is required for information to be provided to the mind/body/spirit complex, though, as Ra provided, the two main methods are through the use of meditation and service to other-self, and have nothing to do with welfare unless in the service to other-self sense. "Evolution" is part of the original thought itself and is always present at the spiritual plane, and as such has no real value in your argument.

    (12-08-2011, 12:53 AM)zenmaster Wrote: "Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but instead rattles about within the mind complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information. However, if an entity puts into practice that which it is given, it will not find repetition except when needed."

    Of more importance at this time is the section I bolded. Though at the time when the Ra Materials were transmitted, the majority may have not put the information into use or practice, today, due to the ever increasing higher vibrations of love/light from off world sources as well as the activation of Gaia's fourth density grid coming online, an increasingly many do and have put the information to use.


    To the original question, Does Ra read Bring4th.org?

    Reading is archaic as is sound vibration complex and is of no consequence in the higher densities, where the processes of the third density mind may simply be monitored. Being, however, that Ra is continuing work in the fifth density, and has many wandering upon the Earth at this time, any distortions which might be of value in the lessons of light are distilled for use on both the individual, as well as societal memory complex levels. Albeit the process of learning is slower in the etiolated states of the higher densities, it still occurs.
    (12-06-2011, 05:40 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I mean imagine you create a galaxy (and your mind is tied to this galaxy) and then it goes out of balance and trying to hold that much spiritual mass in balance. It throws your mind around quite rapidly.

    Perhaps I misunderstand your use of the term mind? Mind is like a software chosen prior to the incarnate experience to increase the speed at which the lessons of the third density are learned whilst within the third density illusion. Mind has nothing to do with creation of a galaxy, other than in an extremely limited and distorted perception, like a beetle might interpret the work of Michelangelo in the Sistine Chapel.

    Unlike planetary spheres and such which have individualized consciousness (although vastly greater than a third density mbsc), creation of a galaxy is by a Logos, a creative node of the Creator. This is commonly referred to as either a central sun, or a black hole, dependent upon the stage of the experience being undertaken by that Logos.

    Nothing is ever out of balance... all is perfect, all serves a purpose. If you "think or feel" there is an imbalance, it is a distortion within the self which requires work.
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    12-11-2011, 07:17 AM
    (12-08-2011, 12:53 AM)zenmaster Wrote: They can't due to law of free will. We have our own experiential nexus, which would be an infringment to participate in without being 'asked' . Any interaction requires a 'calling', which is generally the personal and collective concerns (usually unarticulated). The calling they address is typically one related to welfare and evolution, which, for our needs now, can be most effectively answered in dreams and meditation. They 'read the questions', or rather the idea distortions behind the questions, and provide the guiding information in many forms - just as the higher self does.

    "Once this basic information is received it is not put into practice in the heart and in the life experience but instead rattles about within the mind complex distortions as would a building block which has lost its place and simply rolls from side to side uselessly, yet still the entity calls. Therefore, the same basic information is repeated. Ultimately the entity decides that it is weary of this repetitive information. However, if an entity puts into practice that which it is given, it will not find repetition except when needed."

    To be honest, Zenmaster, if this whole forum is not a HUGE constant calling from a relatively large group of souls, well...then I do not know what it is. Tongue
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    12-11-2011, 06:18 PM (This post was last modified: 12-11-2011, 06:23 PM by zenmaster.)
    (12-11-2011, 02:53 AM)Peregrinus Wrote:
    (12-08-2011, 12:53 AM)zenmaster Wrote: They can't due to law of free will. We have our own experiential nexus, which would be an infringment to participate in without being 'asked' . Any interaction requires a 'calling', which is generally the personal and collective concerns (usually unarticulated). The calling they address is typically one related to welfare and evolution, which, for our needs now, can be most effectively answered in dreams and meditation. They 'read the questions', or rather the idea distortions behind the questions, and provide the guiding information in many forms - just as the higher self does.

    Your response is only partially correct. "Calling" is required for information to be provided to the mind/body/spirit complex, though, as Ra provided, the two main methods are through the use of meditation and service to other-self, and have nothing to do with welfare unless in the service to other-self sense. "Evolution" is part of the original thought itself and is always present at the spiritual plane, and as such has no real value in your argument.

    "...we carefully watch these developments in hopes that your peoples are able to be harvested in peace..." has nothing to do with welfare?

    (12-11-2011, 07:17 AM)Oldern Wrote: To be honest, Zenmaster, if this whole forum is not a HUGE constant calling from a relatively large group of souls, well...then I do not know what it is. Tongue
    Therefore Ra must read these messages in order to address that calling? The intent, what currently exists, is what is addressed, not a bunch of inane, archived words. To over reduce it a bit, 'mind is read'.

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    12-11-2011, 08:22 PM
    (12-11-2011, 06:18 PM)zenmaster Wrote: "...we carefully watch these developments in hopes that your peoples are able to be harvested in peace..." has nothing to do with welfare?

    I mistook your meaning to imply the welfare of the mind/body/spirit complex during a single incarnate experience. Due to Ra's teachings being greatly distorted in that area we refer to as Egypt, Ra had hoped to help avoid spherical destruction, and subsequently a knot or tangle of fear happening on Earth, for such would result in the need for further work, on their part, in the density of light, as well as a greatly increased time in which for all to complete the octave. Being that Ra are only ~2.5 million years away from the density of foreverness, clearing the karma, which was the result of their interaction is, yes, desired.
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    12-14-2011, 02:19 AM (This post was last modified: 12-14-2011, 02:23 AM by Whitefeather.)
    (12-11-2011, 06:18 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Therefore Ra must read these messages in order to address that calling? The intent, what currently exists, is what is addressed, not a bunch of inane, archived words. To over reduce it a bit, 'mind is read'.

    Words are of the mind and, while the content of mind belongs to this planetary sphere, the content of heart reaches beyond it. Since you 'over reduce it a bit', could you have meant 'heart' instead of 'mind' in the expression 'mind is read', zenmaster? because if you did meant 'heart' for the intent like in 'heart intent', then, I agree.

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    12-14-2011, 10:54 PM
    (12-14-2011, 02:19 AM)Whitefeather Wrote:
    (12-11-2011, 06:18 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Therefore Ra must read these messages in order to address that calling? The intent, what currently exists, is what is addressed, not a bunch of inane, archived words. To over reduce it a bit, 'mind is read'.

    Words are of the mind and, while the content of mind belongs to this planetary sphere, the content of heart reaches beyond it. Since you 'over reduce it a bit', could you have meant 'heart' instead of 'mind' in the expression 'mind is read', zenmaster?
    Sure, it doesn't matter. Whatever provides the info. There is the grasping to understand and this is essentially a type of call.

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    12-19-2011, 08:14 AM (This post was last modified: 12-19-2011, 08:29 AM by Tyler Durden Maybe.)
    I would answer that not only does Ra read it, RA also writes it:

    We know that the Law of One states 44.6 "...Are you not all things?" & 1.6 "You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One."

    * Therefore, RA is every person that wrote every post and Ra is every person that read every post, Therefore Ra both reads and writes Bring4th.org, Q.E.D.

    Not exactly having to do with my answer, but as a fan of humor, this one made me laugh out loud, thank you my friend: "Why would they read this nonsense?" says the user with 2,019 posts. The creator sure has a sense of irony.
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    12-19-2011, 08:55 AM
    (12-19-2011, 08:14 AM)Tyler Durden Maybe Wrote: Not exactly having to do with my answer, but as a fan of humor, this one made me laugh out loud, thank you my friend: "Why would they read this nonsense?" says the user with 2,019 posts. The creator sure has a sense of irony.
    Wasn't laughing out loud, but I was definitely smiling when I wrote it.

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    12-20-2011, 01:43 AM
    (12-19-2011, 08:55 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Wasn't laughing out loud, but I was definitely smiling when I wrote it.

    Got me to chuckle. Smile


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