11/11/11 - What will occur? What DID occur?

[native]

Eschatology is one of my favorite words =)

[AnthroHeart]

Does Eschatology relate to the Law of One? Just wondering, since the definition of it speaks of judgment and the final place of souls.

[Tenet Nosce]

11/11/11: Is Date Tied to the Mayan Apocalypse?
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/1...pocalypse/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/1...pocalypse/

I just love how Fox News does things like put "Apocalypse" in the title for effect, then the first sentence says:

it's a spiritual signal linked to 2012 Mayan prophecies of both doom and spiritual renewal.

Hmm. What about the renewal part? Why does the media just zoom in on the "doom and gloom" aspects? (I mean other than ratings. At one time journalism was a respectable vocation in this country.)

I'd be willing to bet over 95% of writers and reporters at Fox News don't know the meaning of the word eschatology, much less that there are multiple kinds of eschatology. Yet they style themselves qualified to report on it. Just can't seem to see past their own Abrahamic bias... :idea:

Fair and balanced my hiney!! Tell you one thing, so long as Rupert Murdoch is still incarnated, I will take it as a sign that the New Age has not yet begun. (Barring a complete 180 flip in his attitude toward others... unlikely but ever possible.)

"The Draw of Doomsday: Why People Look Forward to the End"
http://www.livescience.com/14179-doomsda...lypse.html

LiveScience, on the other hand, fails to mention ANYTHING but "doom and gloom" in their article. See- this is exactly what is wrong with science. It mocks what it doesn't understand until what it doesn't understand makes a mockery of it.

I could provide a lengthy list of breakthrough discoveries that have occurred within the last year in the fields of biology, physics, and geology. More textbook-rewriting-type discoveries than ever before in human history.

But, of course, this is all "coincidence" kind of like the lengthy list of simultaneous discoveries that have occurred in science. All pure coincidence. Nothing to do with a group mind. Really it is quite laughable...

Oh and by the way, the same author- Stephanie Pappas- wrote both of these articles. Just in case it was meant to appear as two sources corroborating one another.

Does Eschatology relate to the Law of One? Just wondering, since the definition of it speaks of judgment and the final place of souls.

At some time in the future, then, something that the Confederation has called the harvest will take place. This concept of the Judgment Day differs from the eschatological one in that the one who judges us is not a God apart from us but the God within us. As a result of this harvest some will go on to a new age of love and light and will learn new lessons in a very positive and beautiful density, as the Confederation calls it. Others will have to repeat this particular grade of lessons and relearn the lessons of love.

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I don't know, Tenet Nosce, fire and the wheel were pretty significant breakthrough technologies - relatively speaking.

True. Although at the time there were no textbooks, nor science. Especially no cabal of pharisees... oops I mean scientists... who took it upon themselves to dictate to others what to believe, or what is possible.

[Richard]

Tenet wrote:

True. Although at the time there were no textbooks, nor science. Especially no cabal of pharisees... oops I mean scientists... who took it upon themselves to dictate to others what to believe, or what is possible.

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Tenet,

There has "always" been someone (or someones) that have taken it upon themselves (or attempted to) to tell others what to believe and how to believe. Its the nature of the human experience.

Its always been up to the individual what to take to heart and what not. Though in early cultures, non-belief could have cost you dearly...if it even occurred to you in the first place.

Raf

[unity100]

11/11/11: Is Date Tied to the Mayan Apocalypse?
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/1...pocalypse/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/1...pocalypse/

"The Draw of Doomsday: Why People Look Forward to the End"
http://www.livescience.com/14179-doomsda...lypse.html

yes. harvest will not happen. or at least, it will happen in a way that nothing will disturbed the academic career you worked hard for, and it will not inconvenience your life at any rate that is noticeable, so you can comfortably keep doing what you have been doing without getting disturbed ............... why really ? why and how so convenient ?

[Richard]

11/11/11: Is Date Tied to the Mayan Apocalypse?
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/1...pocalypse/

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/11/1...pocalypse/

"The Draw of Doomsday: Why People Look Forward to the End"
http://www.livescience.com/14179-doomsda...lypse.html

yes. harvest will not happen. or at least, it will happen in a way that nothing will disturbed the academic career you worked hard for, and it will not inconvenience your life at any rate that is noticeable, so you can comfortably keep doing what you have been doing without getting disturbed ............... why really ? why and how so convenient ?

A Brief History of the Apocalypse

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

Doomsday is big business. Always has been. Fascinating site, btw.

Harvest is now. Its a dynamic process that starts the minute a person is born. Every person. We fill in the interstice between birth and death with life and catalyst in order to harvest...or not.

Richard

[3DMonkey]

Tenet wrote:

True. Although at the time there were no textbooks, nor science. Especially no cabal of pharisees... oops I mean scientists... who took it upon themselves to dictate to others what to believe, or what is possible.

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Tenet,

There has "always" been someone (or someones) that have taken it upon themselves (or attempted to) to tell others what to believe and how to believe. Its the nature of the human experience.

Its always been up to the individual what to take to heart and what not. Though in early cultures, non-belief could have cost you dearly...if it even occurred to you in the first place.

Raf

That's what I was thinking too.

And then add to that community a newly discovered technological, biological, or chemical science. The desire to keep it secret and use it to a sociological advantage. Think about the base societal dynamics that would follow.

[unity100]

A Brief History of the Apocalypse

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

Doomsday is big business. Always has been. Fascinating site, By the way.

Harvest is now. Its a dynamic process that starts the minute a person is born. Every person. We fill in the interstice between birth and death with life and catalyst in order to harvest...or not.

Richard

negative parties exaggerating - actually warning against - the cataclysmic events to happen on the planet for their own ends, does not mean harvests are events that happen so conveniently and comfortably without disturbing anything on a 3d world. no such information as to convenience of harvests were given in the material we are studying.

and from another standpoint, there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings, someone who has been confirmed by Ra to be reading akashic records of this planet's future. so, even if those cataclysms are comfortably avoided in the particular path we are walking thanks to the mass incarnations of wanderers in the last half of the century, those cataclysms happened in another path.

a planet turning upside down due to mere difference in between the orange retardation in the society on a 3d planet and the incoming 4d vibrations, means that leave aside a harvest, the advent of 4d vibrations is not something that is so comfortable, convenient and forgiving in the first place.

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http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...&ss=1&sc=1

14.31 Questioner: Who spoke through Edgar Cayce?

Ra: I am Ra. No entity spoke through Edgar Cayce.

Category: People: Edgar Cayce

14.32 Questioner: Where did the information come from that Edgar Cayce channeled?

Ra: I am Ra. We have explained before that the intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy from eighth density or octave. The one sound vibratory complex called Edgar used this gateway to view the present, which is not the continuum you experience but the potential social memory complex of this planetary sphere. The term your peoples have used for this is the “Akashic Record” or the “Hall of Records.” This is the last question which you may now ask.

Category: People: Edgar Cayce

[Tenet Nosce]

Its the nature of the human experience.

Respectfully, I perceive this to be one of the core lies humanity has subscribed to about who they are and what their purpose is. Along with all the garbage about the "law of the jungle" and how it is "human nature" to compete with, and murder, one another.

Its always been up to the individual what to take to heart and what not.

Actually, I don't believe where Science (with the Capital "S") is concerned that theories are put forth as theories. They are put forth as facts. Students are taught to believe that what is true is simply what the majority of scientists believe to be true- whether it has actually been proven or not- or whether alternative theories have been put forth- or whether said alternative theories have evidence to support them. There is no true "choice" if all the options are not presented, and some are censored out "for your own good".

And if you are a Fox News reporter, you put theories forth not only as facts, but in such a way as to insinuate that anybody who believes differently is an ignoramus, a moron, or both. Then you label yourself "Fair and Balanced" and call it a wrap.

[unity100]

Its the nature of the human experience.

Respectfully, I perceive this to be one of the core lies humanity has subscribed to about who they are and what their purpose is. Along with all the garbage about the "law of the jungle" and how it is "human nature" to compete with, and murder, one another.

not to mention the irony of believing and defending these, while living in an environment that is specifically crafted to be the opposite of a jungle.

[Tenet Nosce]

Its the nature of the human experience.

Respectfully, I perceive this to be one of the core lies humanity has subscribed to about who they are and what their purpose is. Along with all the garbage about the "law of the jungle" and how it is "human nature" to compete with, and murder, one another.

not to mention the irony of believing and defending these, while living in an environment that is specifically crafted to be the opposite of a jungle.

Or the irony of believing and defending these, while portraying oneself to be a faithful student of the Law of One.

[native]

no such information as to convenience of harvests were given in the material we are studying.

Actually, most of the Earth changing inconveniences should be over by now, according to 6.16/17.

there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings

They were possibilities, among many. Considering the amount of damage prophesied, they were probably worst case scenarios.

[Tenet Nosce]

no such information as to convenience of harvests were given in the material we are studying.

Actually, most of the Earth changing inconveniences should be over by now, according to 6.16/17.

there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings

They were possibilities, among many. Considering the amount of damage prophesied, they were probably worst case scenarios.

I believe the intended reading is that the magnitude of said "inconveniences" would be inversely proportional to the degree of positive polarization by humanity. In which respect, let us envision that the last jolt in Turkey was officially the "worst" of it.

[unity100]

no such information as to convenience of harvests were given in the material we are studying.

Actually, most of the Earth changing inconveniences should be over by now, according to 6.16/17.

what ?

you are actually believing a date in Ra material ? you ? how come ?

there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings

They were possibilities, among many. Considering the amount of damage prophesied, they were probably worst case scenarios.

there werent 'many' possibilities. there were most likely possibilities. meaning that, there isnt an endless array of possibilities that can happen. the possibility word, carries the likelihood of happenstance in its own meaning. so, 'possibilities' is a term that is a limited subset.

little different from the paths an individual soul can take on its journey at any given time.

[Tenet Nosce]

[native]

I believe the intended reading is that the magnitude of said "inconveniences" would be inversely proportional to the degree of positive polarization by humanity. In which respect, let us envision that the last jolt in Turkey was officially the "worst" of it.

I'd agree with the inverse relationship.

[3DMonkey]

Its the nature of the human experience.

Respectfully, I perceive this to be one of the core lies humanity has subscribed to about who they are and what their purpose is. Along with all the garbage about the "law of the jungle" and how it is "human nature" to compete with, and murder, one another.

not to mention the irony of believing and defending these, while living in an environment that is specifically crafted to be the opposite of a jungle.

Or the irony of believing and defending these, while portraying oneself to be a faithful student of the Law of One.

monkeys beating their chest

[Richard]

A Brief History of the Apocalypse

http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm

Doomsday is big business. Always has been. Fascinating site, By the way.

Harvest is now. Its a dynamic process that starts the minute a person is born. Every person. We fill in the interstice between birth and death with life and catalyst in order to harvest...or not.

Richard

negative parties exaggerating - actually warning against - the cataclysmic events to happen on the planet for their own ends, does not mean harvests are events that happen so conveniently and comfortably without disturbing anything on a 3d world. no such information as to convenience of harvests were given in the material we are studying.

and from another standpoint, there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings, someone who has been confirmed by Ra to be reading akashic records of this planet's future. so, even if those cataclysms are comfortably avoided in the particular path we are walking thanks to the mass incarnations of wanderers in the last half of the century, those cataclysms happened in another path.

a planet turning upside down due to mere difference in between the orange retardation in the society on a 3d planet and the incoming 4d vibrations, means that leave aside a harvest, the advent of 4d vibrations is not something that is so comfortable, convenient and forgiving in the first place.

---

http://lawofone.info/results.php?search_...&ss=1&sc=1

14.31 Questioner: Who spoke through Edgar Cayce?

Ra: I am Ra. No entity spoke through Edgar Cayce.

Category: People: Edgar Cayce

14.32 Questioner: Where did the information come from that Edgar Cayce channeled?

Ra: I am Ra. We have explained before that the intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy from eighth density or octave. The one sound vibratory complex called Edgar used this gateway to view the present, which is not the continuum you experience but the potential social memory complex of this planetary sphere. The term your peoples have used for this is the “Akashic Record” or the “Hall of Records.” This is the last question which you may now ask.

Category: People: Edgar Cayce

Until something happens to "prove" Ra's predictions? Ra should be filed into the same file that Nostrodamus and Cayce inhabit. Interesting reading with no proof otherwise.

Don't get me wrong. I love the elegance of the Ra material. Its unsurpassed in matter of the heart and application of those tenets to real life.

But as far as predictions go? And actual dates? Their batting avg is right up there with all the others on that site. Unproven bushwah.

Sorry to disappoint you Unity that billions don't have to die to prove your theories of disaster.

Richard (rummages around...where'd my damn bananas get to??)

[native]

you are actually believing a date in Ra material ? you ? how come ?

I believe that we shouldn't be giving others the impression that there are definitely cataclysms to come, or that Ra didn't comment on said inconveniences.

there werent 'many' possibilities. there were most likely possibilities. meaning that, there isnt an endless array of possibilities that can happen. the possibility word, carries the likelihood of happenstance in its own meaning. so, 'possibilities' is a term that is a limited subset.

little different from the paths an individual soul can take on its journey at any given time.

Though small in strength, there are an infinite amount of possibilities. That's not to imply that at any moment, any ridiculous event may happen, but that we have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of decisions. Yes, Ra spoke of those with the strongest vortices.

[Whitefeather]

Check this one: http://www.historyorb.com/date/1111/november/11

Nothing happens just you, just us, who we are, what we feel and how we think and ... the manifestation of it!

We are what is happening!
We have co-created it!

Happy 11/11/11 to all!

[3DMonkey]

Happy day

[Tenet Nosce]

there werent 'many' possibilities. there were most likely possibilities. meaning that, there isnt an endless array of possibilities that can happen. the possibility word, carries the likelihood of happenstance in its own meaning. so, 'possibilities' is a term that is a limited subset.

If I may, I see it somewhat of a matrix consisting of all possible choice points, arranged in a narrower array of sequenced timelines, further grouped into subsets of windows or doorways of consciousness, which are accesed by entities each with a unique key.

That is actually the least mumbo-jumbo way I could think of saying it.

There was some kind of research done with guided progression where partipants were asked to describe the future as they perceived it. I'm sorry, I don't recall the actual reference or the specific time they used at this moment.

Point being, the descriptions offered fell into four very neat categories.

One was a post-apocalyptic world with a few straggling survivors trying to rebuild with little to no technology.

The second was very technocratic where humans merged with machines and were governed by them.

The third was spiritual renewal where technology become modeled after nature and used to make reparations to earth.

The fourth where expanded consciousness replaces technology and humanity becomes intergalactic in scope and function.

So, in my opinion, is anything possible? Well, sure. But as we approach "The Choice" time/space becomes increasingly condensed down to a singularity. Meanwhile, space/time expands out to infinity.

What this means is that, while the potential for free will becomes maximized, nevertheless the inertia of repetitive choices throughout the continuum makes the likelihood of suddenly changing direction ever less probable.

Thus when The Choice finally presents itself fully in The Moment, for all practical purposes, it is already a done deal.

We're all here to do what we're all here to do.

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monkeys beating their chest

I have a hunch that once we find out how many different species' DNA actually constitute a human being, it will look quite absurd in retrospect to have placed so much attention on the part that came from monkeys, and to have created a global civilization based upon the imitation of monkey behaviors.

I mean this over and above the already established scientific fact that much of what we consider to be human is actually a symbiosis of human cells with bacteria, fungi, parasites, and viruses.

[Richard]

Its the nature of the human experience.

Respectfully, I perceive this to be one of the core lies humanity has subscribed to about who they are and what their purpose is. Along with all the garbage about the "law of the jungle" and how it is "human nature" to compete with, and murder, one another.

I think you took that statement out of context, Tenet. I was speaking in historical sense. So, perhaps I should re-phrase...."To date, it has been the nature of the human experience"

Only in the last 50 yrs or so has humanity started seriously questioning the status quo.

Its always been up to the individual what to take to heart and what not.

Actually, I don't believe where Science (with the Capital "S") is concerned that theories are put forth as theories. They are put forth as facts. Students are taught to believe that what is true is simply what the majority of scientists believe to be true- whether it has actually been proven or not- or whether alternative theories have been put forth- or whether said alternative theories have evidence to support them. There is no true "choice" if all the options are not presented, and some are censored out "for your own good".

And if you are a Fox News reporter, you put theories forth not only as facts, but in such a way as to insinuate that anybody who believes differently is an ignoramus, a moron, or both. Then you label yourself "Fair and Balanced" and call it a wrap.

I disagree. There are many unproven theories. We simply lack the ability to verify the existence of some of the basic tenets (no pun intented, lol) of some of them. Beyond mathematics.

Superstring theory...perhaps...though no one has ever seen a superstring.

If the students of competing theories had adhered to the values stated in your educational example..wouldn't they all be positing the same theory? There is still a wealth of original thought out there.

Richard

[Monica]

and from another standpoint, there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings, someone who has been confirmed by Ra to be reading akashic records of this planet's future.

1. Cayce predicted many things with precise dates, that didn't happen (at least not in this timeline).
2. Cayce's negative predictions occurred during a time when he was very angry and resentful, so it stands to reason that he was detuned during that time. Many think his readings deteriorated during certain time periods, which coincided with negative predictions.
3. Ra didn't say Cayce read the Akashic records of this planet's future; rather, Ra said Cayce read the Akashic records of this planet's present. This makes a huge difference. At any present point in time, various potentials exist. At the time Cayce made those predictions, they were accurate probable futures, from that point. We are no longer at that point.
4. Ra is with us in all of our times. Therefore, if Ra cannot offer a specific future scenario, it's because multiple possibilities/probabilities exist. The only explanation for this is that there are multiple timelines.

14.31 Questioner: Who spoke through Edgar Cayce?
Ra: I am Ra. No entity spoke through Edgar Cayce.

14.32 Questioner: Where did the information come from that Edgar Cayce channeled?
Ra: I am Ra. We have explained before that the intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy from eighth density or octave. The one sound vibratory complex called Edgar used this gateway to view the present, which is not the continuum you experience but the potential social memory complex of this planetary sphere. The term your peoples have used for this is the “Akashic Record” or the “Hall of Records.” This is the last question which you may now ask.

65.9 Questioner: We would seem to have dual catalysts operating, and the question is which one is going to act first. The prophecies, I will call them, made by Edgar Cayce indicated many Earth changes and I am wondering about the mechanics describing the future. Ra, it has been stated, is not a part of time and yet we concern ourselves with possibility/probability vortices. It is very difficult for me to understand how the mechanism of prophecy operates. What is the value of such a prophecy such as Cayce made with respect to Earth changes and all of these scenarios?
Ra: I am Ra. Consider the shopper entering the store to purchase food with which to furnish the table for the time period you call a week. Some stores have some items, others a variant set of offerings. We speak of these possibility/probability vortices when asked with the understanding that such are as a can, jar, or portion of goods in your store.

It is unknown to us as we scan your time/space whether your peoples will shop hither or yon. We can only name some of the items available for the choosing. The, shall we say, record which the one you call Edgar read from is useful in that same manner. There is less knowledge in this material of other possibility/probability vortices and more attention paid to the strongest vortex. We see the same vortex but also see many others. Edgar’s material could be likened unto one hundred boxes of your cold cereal, another vortex likened unto three, or six, or fifty of another product which is eaten by your peoples for breakfast. That you will breakfast is close to certain. The menu is your own choosing.

The value of prophecy must be realized to be only that of expressing possibilities. Moreover, it must be, in our humble opinion, carefully taken into consideration that any time/space viewing, whether by one of your time/space or by one such as we who view the time/space from a dimension, shall we say, exterior to it will have a quite difficult time expressing time measurement values. Thus prophecy given in specific terms is more interesting for the content or type of possibility predicted than for the space/time nexus of its supposed occurrence.

so, even if those cataclysms are comfortably avoided in the particular path we are walking thanks to the mass incarnations of wanderers in the last half of the century, those cataclysms happened in another path.

By another path do you mean an alternate timeline?

I had gotten the impression from you that you didn't believe in alternate timelines. If you do in fact believe in them, then what are the rules for traversing timelines? Many people claim to quantum jump. There's no reason to think that individuals can't choose different timelines.

a planet turning upside down due to mere difference in between the orange retardation in the society on a 3d planet and the incoming 4d vibrations, means that leave aside a harvest, the advent of 4d vibrations is not something that is so comfortable, convenient and forgiving in the first place.

Maybe. We've already been experiencing inconveniences. They might decrease or increase, depending on our collective free will. But I wouldn't say it's a given that the transition be severe or violent.

[unity100]

Until something happens to "prove" Ra's predictions? Ra should be filed into the same file that Nostrodamus and Cayce inhabit. Interesting reading with no proof otherwise.

Don't get me wrong. I love the elegance of the Ra material. Its unsurpassed in matter of the heart and application of those tenets to real life.

so, its just another philosophy book with pretty wordage and 'inspiring' speech for you.

have you actually tried doing anything it was describing ? a pyramid, chakra manipulation, anything ? or, observing and experimenting with what it describes about them, in your environment and social circle ?

what proves the reliability of a whole of information, is, their applicability. therefore :

But as far as predictions go? And actual dates? Their batting avg is right up there with all the others on that site. Unproven bushwah.

Sorry to disappoint you Unity that billions don't have to die to prove your theories of disaster.

sorry is the one who is wasting time in pursuit of information s/he do not trust enough to actually practice to see.

also, sorry is someone who wastes others' time in such a manner. you havent actually practiced the material you are supposedly pursuing to see its actual usability and gauge its reliability, therefore, you dont trust/believe it, call it 'bushwah', but, spend time on a forum dedicated to its discussion and study.

so, youre just here for kicks. just another someone on some internet forum to which s/he has found his/her way through some way.

give me one good reason why i should spare any effort and waste my time taking any of your communication seriously, and responding to it from this point on. the question is not rhetorical. i will arrange my behavior accordingly.

That's not to imply that at any moment, any ridiculous event may happen,

.................

but that we have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of decisions.

those two sentences contradict.

if you dont have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of choices, it would provide for ridiculous events at any moment.

if ridiculous events at any moment can not happen, then it means you dont have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of choices, and only the choices which are possible at a given point in time, are likely and therefore possible.

there werent 'many' possibilities. there were most likely possibilities. meaning that, there isnt an endless array of possibilities that can happen. the possibility word, carries the likelihood of happenstance in its own meaning. so, 'possibilities' is a term that is a limited subset.

If I may, I see it somewhat of a matrix consisting of all possible choice points, arranged in a narrower array of sequenced timelines, further grouped into subsets of windows or doorways of consciousness, which are accesed by entities each with a unique key.

That is actually the least mumbo-jumbo way I could think of saying it.

There was some kind of research done with guided progression where partipants were asked to describe the future as they perceived it. I'm sorry, I don't recall the actual reference or the specific time they used at this moment.

i say you are overly complicating it. think it in simple spiritual terms :

imagine the entity is a surfer in the totality of itself, and eventually in the greater subset, the universe that is the current one.

the likely choices and possibilities of the entity, will be the ones from its particular point forward towards totality. and at that point, the directions it can take, has to be compatible with its current state at that point. it can not surf into a much bigger wave than its current surfboard can handle, or it cannot surf into a wave that is too small to carry it.

tho the example is too simplified, it basically portrays the overall violet balance of the entity, its greater cosmic karma, and the role these have in shaping its choices.

the entity cannot take any kind of route that its violet balance will not be able to provide for it - ie, it cannot take paths that its violet balance will not shoulder the conditions of existence to the extent that wont be able to function as a functioning entity, or it will not be able to take paths that will not provide any acceptable degree of experience/interaction to its own violet balance due to the weakness of the interactions within that path. same goes for its greater cosmic karma and factors acting on it.

[Richard]

Until something happens to "prove" Ra's predictions? Ra should be filed into the same file that Nostrodamus and Cayce inhabit. Interesting reading with no proof otherwise.

Don't get me wrong. I love the elegance of the Ra material. Its unsurpassed in matter of the heart and application of those tenets to real life.

so, its just another philosophy book with pretty wordage and 'inspiring' speech for you.

have you actually tried doing anything it was describing ? a pyramid, chakra manipulation, anything ? or, observing and experimenting with what it describes about them, in your environment and social circle ?

what proves the reliability of a whole of information, is, their applicability. therefore :

But as far as predictions go? And actual dates? Their batting avg is right up there with all the others on that site. Unproven bushwah.

Sorry to disappoint you Unity that billions don't have to die to prove your theories of disaster.

sorry is the one who is wasting time in pursuit of information s/he do not trust enough to actually practice to see.

also, sorry is someone who wastes others' time in such a manner. you havent actually practiced the material you are supposedly pursuing to see its actual usability and gauge its reliability, therefore, you dont trust/believe it, call it 'bushwah', but, spend time on a forum dedicated to its discussion and study.

so, youre just here for kicks. just another someone on some internet forum to which s/he has found his/her way through some way.

give me one good reason why i should spare any effort and waste my time taking any of your communication seriously, and responding to it from this point on. the question is not rhetorical. i will arrange my behavior accordingly.

That's not to imply that at any moment, any ridiculous event may happen,

.................

but that we have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of decisions.

those two sentences contradict.

if you dont have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of choices, it would provide for ridiculous events at any moment.

if ridiculous events at any moment can not happen, then it means you dont have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of choices, and only the choices which are possible at a given point in time, are likely and therefore possible.

there werent 'many' possibilities. there were most likely possibilities. meaning that, there isnt an endless array of possibilities that can happen. the possibility word, carries the likelihood of happenstance in its own meaning. so, 'possibilities' is a term that is a limited subset.

If I may, I see it somewhat of a matrix consisting of all possible choice points, arranged in a narrower array of sequenced timelines, further grouped into subsets of windows or doorways of consciousness, which are accesed by entities each with a unique key.

That is actually the least mumbo-jumbo way I could think of saying it.

There was some kind of research done with guided progression where partipants were asked to describe the future as they perceived it. I'm sorry, I don't recall the actual reference or the specific time they used at this moment.

i say you are overly complicating it. think it in simple spiritual terms :

imagine the entity is a surfer in the totality of itself, and eventually in the greater subset, the universe that is the current one.

the likely choices and possibilities of the entity, will be the ones from its particular point forward towards totality. and at that point, the directions it can take, has to be compatible with its current state at that point. it can not surf into a much bigger wave than its current surfboard can handle, or it cannot surf into a wave that is too small to carry it.

tho the example is too simplified, it basically portrays the overall violet balance of the entity, its greater cosmic karma, and the role these have in shaping its choices.

the entity cannot take any kind of route that its violet balance will not be able to provide for it - ie, it cannot take paths that its violet balance will not shoulder the conditions of existence to the extent that wont be able to function as a functioning entity, or it will not be able to take paths that will not provide any acceptable degree of experience/interaction to its own violet balance due to the weakness of the interactions within that path. same goes for its greater cosmic karma and factors acting on it.

Ra is channelled material. And should, subsequently, be viewed as possibly flawed. Not that its not useful...or even beautiful. If you want Ra to be your unquestioned Bible of thought, then that is your choice.

I choose to believe otherwise. Much like Quo' cautions us to take what resonates and leave the rest behind.

Richard

[unity100]

and from another standpoint, there were actually cataclysms of grand proportions to happen according to cayce's readings, someone who has been confirmed by Ra to be reading akashic records of this planet's future.

1. Cayce predicted many things with precise dates, that didn't happen (at least not in this timeline).
2. Cayce's negative predictions occurred during a time when he was very angry and resentful, so it stands to reason that he was detuned during that time. Many think his readings deteriorated during certain time periods, which coincided with negative predictions.

i think you are taking the the source cayce channeled way too lightly. it is not a 5d entity, it is not a 6d entity, the source channeled was at the point where intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy, at octave level. which, is also the level where guardians guard this planet from incursions.

a point way past the point where positive and negative integrates. if there is any 'detunation', there would be a reason for it.

3. Ra didn't say Cayce read the Akashic records of this planet's future; rather, Ra said Cayce read the Akashic records of this planet's present. This makes a huge difference. At any present point in time, various potentials exist. At the time Cayce made those predictions, they were accurate probable futures, from that point. We are no longer at that point.

yes. and at what point are we ? the point at which everything happens without disturbing anyone who is immersed in the societal biases of contemporary times ?

4. Ra is with us in all of our times. Therefore, if Ra cannot offer a specific future scenario, it's because multiple possibilities/probabilities exist. The only explanation for this is that there are multiple timelines.

i dont even know what this means. i think you are proposing the possibility of infinite scenarios, which is incorrect. else, it would be states as such. instead, ra spoke of the most likely possibilities. meaning, others are not likely, whether that may be inconvenient for some or not.

By another path do you mean an alternate timeline?

I had gotten the impression from you that you didn't believe in alternate timelines. If you do in fact believe in them, then what are the rules for traversing timelines? Many people claim to quantum jump. There's no reason to think that individuals can't choose different timelines.

at no point i have expressed anything as such.

what i have always argued against, was the naivete that believed 'infinite possibilities' existed at any given time, leading to the false belief that 'anything may happen'.

as for the rules for choosing different 'timelines', i have already expressed the main factor that would determine it. i also expressed it in response to tenet nosce just in this post.

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Ra is channelled material. And should, subsequently, be viewed as possibly flawed. Not that its not useful...or even beautiful. If you want Ra to be your unquestioned Bible of thought, then that is your choice.

I choose to believe otherwise. Much like Quo' cautions us to take what resonates and leave the rest behind.

that is escapism. a material which is reliable for most of the time, cannot be unreliable just at the point where you find it inconvenient.

your response basically tells me that you have not actually attempted to put what is bespoken in the material you speak of into practice at any considerable length. someone who actually did that, would not be speaking the perspective you are talking from, based on my own experience.

therefore i dont see the point of discussing anything on Ra material with you. im not interested in proving/disproving the reliability of a material to a random persona on the internet, but discussing its applications and uses with people who actually tried, tested it and found it workable. i will refrain from discussing you from this point on, based on that. i thank you for your discussions up to this point, and hope that you find what you looking for, wherever it is.

[native]

if you dont have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of choices, it would provide for ridiculous events at any moment.

I was implying that, say for instance, I live in the deep forest surrounded by trees. It's not possible for a car to come crashing into my house.

What are your thoughts on this statement?

"We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong, moment of inspiration? Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever possible."

[unity100]

if you dont have the creative potential to make an infinite amount of choices, it would provide for ridiculous events at any moment.

I was implying that, say for instance, I live in the deep forest surrounded by trees. It's not possible for a car to come crashing into my house.

What are your thoughts on this statement?

yes. also, a truck wont come crashing into your house. also, a trailer or a train wont come crashing into your house. it is very unlikely that, any plane will come crashing into your house.

it is much more likely that you will encounter bears, deer and a lot of insects. a life without bugs, insects or forest animals, will be basically out of the question.

it is very likely that your house or its extensions and tools, and even your means of heat will be of wood.

basically, you will live in a forest. in forest style.

as much as the possibility of living totally in city style without bears and insects will be known to you, it wont be likely at any given point as long as you are in that forest.

"We may note at this point while you ponder the possibility/probability vortices that although you have many, many items which cause distress and thus offer seeking and service opportunities, there is always one container in that store of peace, love, light, and joy. This vortex may be very small, but to turn one’s back upon it is to forget the infinite possibilities of the present moment. Could your planet polarize towards harmony in one fine, strong, moment of inspiration? Yes, my friends. It is not probable; but it is ever possible."

the answer to this lies in the meanings of 'probable' and 'possible'. something that is 0.000000001 percent possible is possible. but, its improbable.

[3DMonkey]

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