The mysterious nature of time

[zenmaster]

As one individuates, it's possible to have relationships that are not wholly based on an expectation of such lower ego-satisfying demands (the personal unconscious has been integrated sufficiently to move one into 'green').

You really think so? Sounds ego-satisfying to me. Where does the projection stop and the circle flatten out into a line?

Is your ego somehow satisfied by the idea? Individuation is an ongoing process, there is no stop because any misunderstanding must first find a form in projection. Something gets extended away from the dark, into a more desirable light in some form suitable for processing. What we do when presented with the reflection of the unconscious changes or transforms as supporting contents are integrated and more readily recognized. More of 'you' is eventually available to meet it.

The circle was never a circle, it was a spiral upwards - that's the dynamic. Psychologically, the circle is feminine - so may be something worth investigating given its attention.

Statically, or symbolically, the circle and the line are the same thing - like yin and yang.

Ilexa Yardley's work on the subject: http://www.circular-theory.com/circular-theory/

[Confused]

Thank you, Ruth

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Carl Jung - Approaching the Unconscious Part 4 of 15

[3DMonkey]

As one individuates, it's possible to have relationships that are not wholly based on an expectation of such lower ego-satisfying demands (the personal unconscious has been integrated sufficiently to move one into 'green').

You really think so? Sounds ego-satisfying to me. Where does the projection stop and the circle flatten out into a line?

Is your ego somehow satisfied by the idea? Individuation is an ongoing process, there is no stop because any misunderstanding must first find a form in projection. Something gets extended away from the dark, into a more desirable light in some form suitable for processing. What we do when presented with the reflection of the unconscious changes or transforms as supporting contents are integrated and more readily recognized. More of 'you' is eventually available to meet it.

The circle was never a circle, it was a spiral upwards - that's the dynamic. Psychologically, the circle is feminine - so may be something worth investigating given its attention.

Statically, or symbolically, the circle and the line are the same thing - like yin and yang.

Ilexa Yardley's work on the subject: http://www.circular-theory.com/circular-theory/

I don't think that is the circle I'm talking about. I'm talking about individuation (catchword) is an ego-satisfying demand of itself. Round and round we go, rolling along our human being.

[AnthroHeart]

This now provides me greatest catalyst.

Catalyst can be like burning laser intense, and just as precise.


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[zenmaster]

As one individuates, it's possible to have relationships that are not wholly based on an expectation of such lower ego-satisfying demands (the personal unconscious has been integrated sufficiently to move one into 'green').

You really think so? Sounds ego-satisfying to me. Where does the projection stop and the circle flatten out into a line?

Is your ego somehow satisfied by the idea? Individuation is an ongoing process, there is no stop because any misunderstanding must first find a form in projection. Something gets extended away from the dark, into a more desirable light in some form suitable for processing. What we do when presented with the reflection of the unconscious changes or transforms as supporting contents are integrated and more readily recognized. More of 'you' is eventually available to meet it.

The circle was never a circle, it was a spiral upwards - that's the dynamic. Psychologically, the circle is feminine - so may be something worth investigating given its attention.

Statically, or symbolically, the circle and the line are the same thing - like yin and yang.

Ilexa Yardley's work on the subject: http://www.circular-theory.com/circular-theory/

I don't think that is the circle I'm talking about. I'm talking about individuation (catchword) is an ego-satisfying demand of itself. Round and round we go, rolling along our human being.

Individuation is an observation, like the 'sun is hot'. So it could be ego-satisfying, but not inherently.

[3DMonkey]

Individuation is a mental concept created to give the ego of those who created it a platform suggesting that one becomes a truer person over time based on methods of development they would advocate. This is a simple example of the operations of the human mind. They are equal to a child enjoying bubble gum.

We aren't getting any "truer". We are always true.

[AnthroHeart]

I posted this in another thread, but thought it fitting here.

Subdensity I have found is also tied to how expansive the possibilities for experiencing are. You can get somewhat of an idea of where you are by what emotions you tend to have the most. If they are expansive emotions like longing or wonder, chances are you're further along than if you were set in anger or such. More expansive tends to have less attachment. Currently, my main emotion is a detached curiosity. It's somewhere between longing and wonder.

[Confused]

I posted this in another thread, but thought it fitting here.

Subdensity I have found is also tied to how expansive the possibilities for experiencing are. You can get somewhat of an idea of where you are by what emotions you tend to have the most. If they are expansive emotions like longing or wonder, chances are you're further along than if you were set in anger or such. More expansive tends to have less attachment. Currently, my main emotion is a detached curiosity. It's somewhere between longing and wonder.

How did you get there, GW?

[AnthroHeart]

I got here through intense self-discovery. It just becomes natural the more you let go and allow.

But emotions can go both ways. Despair is also an expansive emotion, very expansive. That's why people can get pulled into it. They don't have the will to fight and tighten it down to move back toward positive emotions, so they let it take them. The emotion continuum as I see it now expands on both ends. Perhaps that's why I could find solace in despair at this level, because of how expansive it is. Negative expansion though has tendency to suck one in. Positive expansion empowers our free will choice. Negative expansion reduces free will choice. This is because confusion increases through negative expansion, clarity through positive expansion.

[Confused]

Thanks, GW. This video in honor of you

Quantum physics everything you know destroyed

[AnthroHeart]

Thanks for the vid Confused.

Just want to introduce you to my own archetypal mind.

To me, this is perfection at my current density.


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[zenmaster]

Individuation is a mental concept created to give the ego of those who created it a platform suggesting that one becomes a truer person over time based on methods of development they would advocate. This is a simple example of the operations of the human mind. They are equal to a child enjoying bubble gum.

We aren't getting any "truer". We are always true.

Could be. But who just made up the projection of "truer"? Odd right?

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I posted this in another thread, but thought it fitting here.

Subdensity I have found is also tied to how expansive the possibilities for experiencing are. You can get somewhat of an idea of where you are by what emotions you tend to have the most. If they are expansive emotions like longing or wonder, chances are you're further along than if you were set in anger or such. More expansive tends to have less attachment. Currently, my main emotion is a detached curiosity. It's somewhere between longing and wonder.

The subdensity we can relate to now is a level of vibration in 3rd density. The individuation process does move one through the subdensities.

Only the last level of the octave is capable of recognizing all of the levels as necessary. Before that we don't recognize levels at all, just modes of being which are not desirable.

Emotions are basically where the mind starts involving the body.

More expansive is less attachment but the crucial point of awareness is back to the less expansive, less attachment. That is, the circumstantial in-your-face involvement and its call.

[Confused]

The creature looks so content, happy and serene!

Thanks for the vid Confused.

Just want to introduce you to my own archetypal mind.

To me, this is perfection at my current density.

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Carl Jung - Approaching the Unconscious Part 5 of 15

[AnthroHeart]

How about weightless, a sense of deep wonder in his eyes, naked to the truth, resting in zen as intelligent infinity approaches (the whiteness behind)?

[Confused]

Don't forget weightless, a sense of deep wonder in his eyes, naked to the truth, resting in zen and between approaching intelligent infinity (the whiteness behind).

So it has lot of symbolic value. Right, what do the other two creatures in the background, holding hands, signify? Did you create the cartoon, by the way?

[AnthroHeart]

I'm not sure what they signify (distraction maybe?), hadn't thought of that. The artist is named Zen. http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zen

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That symbolism I mentioned is seeing the image through the eyes of a high subdensity (bringing out the timelessness of it). Read some of the comments on his FA page to see low subdensity views of the image. I'm not knocking that either, as I was there, believe me.

[3DMonkey]

Individuation is a mental concept created to give the ego of those who created it a platform suggesting that one becomes a truer person over time based on methods of development they would advocate. This is a simple example of the operations of the human mind. They are equal to a child enjoying bubble gum.

We aren't getting any "truer". We are always true.

Could be. But who just made up the projection of "truer"? Odd right?

Divergence.

It is not a projection. It is from the wikipedia information on individuation. Individuation is a catchword for people who consider themselves educated in psychology.

If you want to think I haven't integrated what you are with who I am, and that your are more whole than me because you have reached a higher level of individuation, that is your prerogative.

This is not my projection. It is a logical conclusion based on you incessant use of the divergence "your projection". "That's your lack of individuation. I'm innocent. I'm not touching you, I'm just holding my finger two inches from you face, I'm not touching you, that's your problem."

[Confused]

This is confusing but thought-provoking

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[zenmaster]

Individuation is a mental concept created to give the ego of those who created it a platform suggesting that one becomes a truer person over time based on methods of development they would advocate. This is a simple example of the operations of the human mind. They are equal to a child enjoying bubble gum.

We aren't getting any "truer". We are always true.

Could be. But who just made up the projection of "truer"? Odd right?

Divergence.

It is not a projection. It is from the wikipedia information on individuation. Individuation is a catchword for people who consider themselves educated in psychology.

If you want to think I haven't integrated what you are with who I am, and that your are more whole than me because you have reached a higher level of individuation, that is your prerogative.

This is not my projection. It is a logical conclusion based on you incessant use of the divergence "your projection". "That's your lack of individuation. I'm innocent. I'm not touching you, I'm just holding my finger two inches from you face, I'm not touching you, that's your problem."

As I said before, it's not a 'ladder'. It's not "truer", because truth is circumstantial or subjective here. And just because it can be seen as heirarchial does not give it some inherent perogative of marginalization. I'm not talking 'down to' some perceived condition because some perceived state is 'better'. It's not about an evaluation in that sense. That's why I come back to projection, because there is an attribution of these properties to these processes of development which simply do not exist. The implication of development is not one of separation, unless and until that is what we project onto it - which is continually occurring as the very objection in this discussion. The system itself is completely outside of such valuing or even implicated meaning. It's simply an observation.

"...each entity contains within it all of the densities and sub-densities of the octave so that in each entity, no matter whither its choices lead it, its great internal blueprint is one with all others. Thusly its experiences will fall into the patterns of the journey back to the original Logos. This is done through free will but the materials from which choices can be made are one blueprint."

Yet, "Each enters that sub-density which vibrates in accordance with the entity’s understanding."

"The nature of the vibratory range peculiar to each quantum of the octave is such that the characteristics of it may be described with the same certainty with which you perceive a color with your optical apparatus if it is functioning properly."

Such is the discernment of the developmental process which is observed, through honesty and self reflection.

"However, they were not able to be harvested either and so, beginning at the very highest, shall we say, of the sub-octaves of third density, repeated this density."

There are "vibrational" levels, or stages of development which resonate in accordance to a core acceptance which has been actualized.

"distortions" are balanced and reduced from more to less, in identifiable stages.

Ra is describing part of the process of individuation here:
"an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves."

"The more complex a being is, so our Scale of Complexity tells us, the more it is centered upon itself and therefore the more aware does it become. In other words, the higher the degree of complexity in a living creature, the higher its consciousness; and vice versa. The two properties vary in parallel and simultaneously. If we depict them in diagrammatic form, they are equivalent and interchangeable."
--Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, The Future of Man, p.111
"For its reflective and inventive forward spring it is in some sort necessary that Life, duplicating its evolutionary motive center, should henceforth be sustained by two centers of action, separate and conjoined, one of consciousness and the other of complexity.... In hominised evolution the Physical and the Psychic, the Without and the Within, Matter and Consciousness, are all found to be functionally linked in one tangible process."
--Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, The Future of Man, p.209
I think you may, possibly, be confusing the noble valuing judgements provided by an egalitarianism view with some perceived, inherent antithesis in the description of developmental stages.

Also what these 'vibrations' may or may not provide as far as access to certain aspects of the human condition is also being contrived as being indicative of some moral judgement or stance. Such is the imposition that you seem to be making. Since it, of course, has nothing to do with differences in values, and you continually impose these differences in values, I say that is "projection" - the attribution or depiction of something in a manner which is not inherently so.

The observation is one of the stage or condition itself, it is not about assigning value to how the actors on that stage may or may not treat others. This is the idea that you are continually "projecting".

It is not about marginalization, but about identification. And that identification is not about separation in the sense of distancing, but in the sense of discernment. As Ra aptly said, the "internal blueprint is one with all others".

"These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience."\

"The one known as Franklin developed very quickly up through red, orange, yellow, and green and began to work in the blue ray energy center at a tender age, as you would say. This rapid growth was due, firstly, to previous achievements in the activation of the rays, secondly, to the relative comfort and leisure of its early existence, thirdly, due to the strong desire upon the part of the entity to progress."


It is possible to know more and more about the self, and therefore more and more about the condition of others. For some reason, you are continually imposing moral evaluations to such observations which are, indeed, unequivocally irrelevant to that growing ability to know. They are not bound to that development and never were. Moral behavior is simply another topic which you have taken this opportunity to introduce, for some reason.

Very simply, "The man with a neurosis who knows that he is neurotic is more individuated than the man without this consciousness... If a man is contradicted by himself and does not know it, he is an illusionist, but if he knows that he contradicts himself, he is individuated." - Jung

[3DMonkey]

That's why I come back to projection, because there is an attribution of these properties to these processes of development which simply do not exist. The implication of development is not one of separation, unless and until that is what we project onto it - which is continually occurring as the very objection in this discussion.

Objection is entirely your projection. I am making the observation that the implication of development is not one of separation if and when we project wholeness unto it. (round and round and round we go)

The system itself is completely outside of such valuing or even implicated meaning. It's simply an observation.

The circle I see is also an observation.

"...each entity contains within it all of the densities and sub-densities of the octave so that in each entity, no matter whither its choices lead it, its great internal blueprint is one with all others. Thusly its experiences will fall into the patterns of the journey back to the original Logos. This is done through free will but the materials from which choices can be made are one blueprint."

Yet, "Each enters that sub-density which vibrates in accordance with the entity’s understanding."

"The nature of the vibratory range peculiar to each quantum of the octave is such that the characteristics of it may be described with the same certainty with which you perceive a color with your optical apparatus if it is functioning properly."

Such is the discernment of the developmental process which is observed, through honesty and self reflection.

"However, they were not able to be harvested either and so, beginning at the very highest, shall we say, of the sub-octaves of third density, repeated this density."

There are "vibrational" levels, or stages of development which resonate in accordance to a core acceptance which has been actualized.

"distortions" are balanced and reduced from more to less, in identifiable stages.

Ra is describing part of the process of individuation here:
"an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves."

"The more complex a being is, so our Scale of Complexity tells us, the more it is centered upon itself and therefore the more aware does it become. In other words, the higher the degree of complexity in a living creature, the higher its consciousness; and vice versa. The two properties vary in parallel and simultaneously. If we depict them in diagrammatic form, they are equivalent and interchangeable."
--Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, The Future of Man, p.111
"For its reflective and inventive forward spring it is in some sort necessary that Life, duplicating its evolutionary motive center, should henceforth be sustained by two centers of action, separate and conjoined, one of consciousness and the other of complexity.... In hominised evolution the Physical and the Psychic, the Without and the Within, Matter and Consciousness, are all found to be functionally linked in one tangible process."
--Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, The Future of Man, p.209
I think you may, possibly, be confusing the noble valuing judgements provided by an egalitarianism view with some perceived, inherent antithesis in the description of developmental stages.

Not really. I see all of the above as a system derived from the human mind within its archetypal structure which is impossible to step away from the circle I see.

Also what these 'vibrations' may or may not provide as far as access to certain aspects of the human condition is also being contrived as being indicative of some moral judgement or stance. Such is the imposition that you seem to be making. Since it, of course, has nothing to do with differences in values, and you continually impose these differences in values, I say that is "projection" - the attribution or depiction of something in a manner which is not inherently so.

I don't know about all that. I do know that the aspects are inescapable, and the idea of vibrations is created with the same form that they try to define which causes them to lack integrity as a definitive idea. Just when you think you've found it, it flip flops on you, ad infinitum.

The observation is one of the stage or condition itself, it is not about assigning value to how the actors on that stage may or may not treat others. This is the idea that you are continually "projecting".

No, I think you have perceived me wrong here. It is how one views self that I am projecting. Does the buck stop here for "you"? Does "your" theory apply to itself? ("you" in quotes means not you specifically)

It is not about marginalization, but about identification. And that identification is not about separation in the sense of distancing, but in the sense of discernment. As Ra aptly said, the "internal blueprint is one with all others".

"These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience."\

"The one known as Franklin developed very quickly up through red, orange, yellow, and green and began to work in the blue ray energy center at a tender age, as you would say. This rapid growth was due, firstly, to previous achievements in the activation of the rays, secondly, to the relative comfort and leisure of its early existence, thirdly, due to the strong desire upon the part of the entity to progress."


It is possible to know more and more about the self, and therefore more and more about the condition of others. For some reason, you are continually imposing moral evaluations to such observations which are, indeed, unequivocally irrelevant to that growing ability to know. They are not bound to that development and never were. Moral behavior is simply another topic which you have taken this opportunity to introduce, for some reason.

This is a misrepresentation of me. You say "truer" is my projection. What is "know more and more about the self"? My observation has nothing to do with my perceived moral evaluation. It's about how the idea that you can know more about yourself is just another idea formulated in the mind to find some sort of perceived value and meaning to one's chosen activity, and because we now find ourselves at the opposite point of the idea, flip flopped, we can see that it is another example [that the one] didn't know that. Then we proceed to create another idea that will indubitably fall short with another rotation of the circle.

Very simply, "The man with a neurosis who knows that he is neurotic is more individuated than the man without this consciousness... If a man is contradicted by himself and does not know it, he is an illusionist, but if he knows that he contradicts himself, he is individuated." - Jung

I know it. That's what I've been saying, Jung. That quote is a great example of the circle I see. After, "he is individuated", he finds himself right back at the start of the quote... until he dies. Round and round we go.

[AnthroHeart]

More expansive is less attachment but the crucial point of awareness is back to the less expansive, less attachment. That is, the circumstantial in-your-face involvement and its call.

So true. I'm finding it to be a series of expansions and contractions, which focus down the energy into awareness.
It's like slowly pumping the energy by relaxing, contracting down, and repeating.

So in your opinion is intelligent infinity reached in a contracted or expanded state?

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How about weightless, a sense of deep wonder in his eyes, naked to the truth, resting in zen as intelligent infinity approaches (the whiteness behind)?

So it has lot of symbolic value. Right, what do the other two creatures in the background, holding hands, signify? Did you create the cartoon, by the way?

There is a lot of symbolic value when I'm in expanded state. I find it necessary to contract back the energy down into current awareness (because the mind can get very spacy). It can feel good to feel the weight of the character again, energetically. So before when I said higher subdensity view, I meant a more expanded view.

[zenmaster]

Very simply, "The man with a neurosis who knows that he is neurotic is more individuated than the man without this consciousness... If a man is contradicted by himself and does not know it, he is an illusionist, but if he knows that he contradicts himself, he is individuated." - Jung

I know it. That's what I've been saying, Jung. That quote is a great example of the circle I see. After, "he is individuated", he finds himself right back at the start of the quote... until he dies. Round and round we go.

But you are again misrepresenting the idea of individuation to suit some circle idea which you have invented.

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More expansive is less attachment but the crucial point of awareness is back to the less expansive, less attachment. That is, the circumstantial in-your-face involvement and its call.

So true. I'm finding it to be a series of expansions and contractions, which focus down the energy into awareness.
It's like slowly pumping the energy by relaxing, contracting down, and repeating.

It's been said to be a process of a step forward, and steps backwards. This is as appropriate for the balancing of distortions which we automatically provide new conditions for. The new nature of catalyst following a 'contraction' addresses that which requires balancing. The prior expansion was only relative to and at the expense of what remained unaccepted. There is an overall expansion as learning takes place. There are circumstantial expansions as faith is acknowledged.

So in your opinion is intelligent infinity reached in a contracted or expanded state?

[/quote] Even contact with intelligent infinity is relative state. As we are learning more about ourselves here, contact with intelligent infinity becomes more and more readily available. 'psychic phenomena', such as seemingly miraculous healing being one manifestation of intelligent-infinity contact.

I'd like to point out that those who are not at the higher stages of evolution are more subject to the random effects of catalyst with regards to their ignored emotional blockages. Not a moral evaluation, of course, just a fact of life.

[3DMonkey]

Very simply, "The man with a neurosis who knows that he is neurotic is more individuated than the man without this consciousness... If a man is contradicted by himself and does not know it, he is an illusionist, but if he knows that he contradicts himself, he is individuated." - Jung

I know it. That's what I've been saying, Jung. That quote is a great example of the circle I see. After, "he is individuated", he finds himself right back at the start of the quote... until he dies. Round and round we go.

But you are again misrepresenting the idea of individuation to suit some circle idea which you have invented.

You are the illusionist.

[zenmaster]

Very simply, "The man with a neurosis who knows that he is neurotic is more individuated than the man without this consciousness... If a man is contradicted by himself and does not know it, he is an illusionist, but if he knows that he contradicts himself, he is individuated." - Jung

I know it. That's what I've been saying, Jung. That quote is a great example of the circle I see. After, "he is individuated", he finds himself right back at the start of the quote... until he dies. Round and round we go.

But you are again misrepresenting the idea of individuation to suit some circle idea which you have invented.

You are the illusionist.

Quite possibly. One day you may want to take a look at the intended meaning of individuation and then you may see how you are misusing it solely to suit your ends. That's an injustice.

[3DMonkey]

lol. or is it simply your projection?

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I ask as your projective protege to explore "quite possibly". The student begs the teacher to explore this.

[zenmaster]

lol. or is it simply your projection?

Individuation is a process, but you were treating it as some example of an end, and through such an idea showing how your circle dynamic worked in such an illusory manner. It's almost as if you are still trying to find excuses to legitimize your circle idea by recontextualizing the process of development to suit that purpose. That's objectionable.

Jung explicitly related the fact that individuation was not an end, and yet you chose to relate it that way. Is that not willful ignorance? We can treat everything we want as we want it to be, that is our right, but there is a different concept entirely than the picture you keep painting.

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"Fear of self-sacrifice lurks deep in every ego, and this fear is often only [of] the precariously controlled demand of the unconscious forces to burst out in full strength. No one who strives for selfhood (individuation) is spared this dangerous passage, for that which is feared also belongs to the wholeness of the self -- the sub-human, or supra-human world of psychic ‘dominants’ (archetypes) from which the ego originally emancipated itself with enormous effort, and then only partially, for the sake of a more or less illusory freedom. This liberation is certainly a very necessary and very heroic undertaking, but it represents nothing final: it is merely the creation of a subject, who, in order to find fulfillment, has still to be confronted by an object. This [object], at first sight, would appear to be the world, which is swelled out with projections for that very purpose. Here we seek and find our difficulties, here we seek and find our enemy, here we seek and find what is dear and precious to us; and it is comforting to know that all evil and all good is to be found out there, in the visible object, where it can be conquered, punished, destroyed, or enjoyed. But nature herself does not allow this paradisal state of innocence to continue for ever. There are, and always have been, those who cannot help but see that the world and its experiences are in the nature of a symbol, and that it really reflects something that lies hidden in the subject himself, in his own trans-subjective reality."

"The process which Jung called "individuation", repeats in a never-ending cycle leading the person to every greater degrees of wholeness"

"A person cannot grow toward wholeness without reconciling the polarities of consciousness and the unconscious"

[3DMonkey]

hmmm, I don't think you are listening to me.

[AnthroHeart]

"A person cannot grow toward wholeness without reconciling the polarities of consciousness and the unconscious"

Awesome, is that your quote?

I've always seen this process as reconciling my taboos.

Is there a limit to the ability of 3D to individuate (I assume this is another word for being who you truly are)?

[3DMonkey]

lol. or is it simply your projection?

Individuation is a process, but you were treating it as some example of an end, and through such an idea showing how your circle dynamic worked in such an illusory manner. It's almost as if you are still trying to find excuses to legitimize your circle idea by recontextualizing the process of development to suit that purpose. That's objectionable.

Okay.

Jung explicitly related the fact that individuation was not an end, and yet you chose to relate it that way. Is that not willful ignorance?

The Jung quote you gave states my perspective clearly. I don't understand what you are objecting, and, until now, I did not know you found me objectionable.
An end? An end to what?
I'm only pointing out that, in the full scheme of things, "individuation" is the exact equivalent to "nah nee nah nee boo boo, stick your head in doo doo". It comes from the same place. It is the same thing. It doesn't diminish the idea, but it also doesn't elevate itself past playground shenanigans. We are just humans, changing our games for our own amusement.

All the "objectionable" stuff is just something you might want to come to terms with. Or not. Free will.

[AnthroHeart]

I find that my ability to shift emotions also extends to shifting the mind.
I can push down on my conscious mind, into the subconscious.
When going into subconscious, mind tends to get a little foggier, more spacy, and denser feeling.
I can shift energy of clarity, and integrate with conscious mind so that I become more aware
as I go deeper, instead of the dissociative feeling.
If I want to change my perception filters of conscious mind that say "that's not possible", I can do that slowly.
It's essentially doing the same thing as before, but a different way.
It's like an energetic form of hypnosis, experiencing in a fully conscious way what
it's like to journey into the subconscious.
It's much more accelerated, though I find that if I start to go too deep, the subconscious becomes too dense to push into.
Still making sure I take my body along with my mind, to the current depth/density that I travel to.

It's a beautiful thing seeing these characters just starting to move ever so slightly.
But if my awareness shifts away just a bit, the image becomes distorted into something that doesn't make sense.
Just found though that by letting go, and letting the images all become bizarre, I'm seeing directly a level below
the conscious. Having direct view of this provides much accelerated catalyst feedback.
It's just like having subconscious TV. Just don't try to make sense of the images.

I was a certified hypnotist some years ago, but this process is stellar compared to the traditional methods.
My field is dense enough now that I can manifest tastes, though it takes focusing some 5-10 mins to get a
new taste.