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    Thread: How to Remove Negative Entities From Our Lives


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    #31
    07-05-2011, 07:00 AM
    (07-04-2011, 08:44 PM)Raman Wrote: That applied to the 5d negative entity lurking around at that time... and Carla then was not only in trance but 5d/6d entities able to use violet chakra entry and really mess things up...including transporting to negative time-space.
    Yes and 3D and 4D entities are also capable of inducing great feelings of joy, positive spiritual feelings, etc. regardless of their service orientation.

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    07-05-2011, 07:04 AM
    (07-05-2011, 06:55 AM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-04-2011, 07:45 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: What benefit is it to know this, in your opinion?
    The benefit, in my opinion, is to apply discernment to experience. We are all one, but know what is you and what is 'not you'. When there is fear, know where it comes from and when there is 'love', know where that originates and how that flows. It's remarkably simple, since nothing is hidden that we don't wish to be hidden. But unless and until we know ourselves, we are subject to the vagaries and imbalance of the unconscious and the free will of others choices.

    Thanks. I didn't receive that from you initially.

    I see merit knowing yourself. So, when experience happens, we are more aware.

    I don't see worrying about negative entity influence as a step to knowing self. I see allowing the experience to play out is a step in knowing self. The more love, even naive love, we practice shapes the self we will come to know after any experience.

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    #33
    07-05-2011, 07:23 AM
    (07-05-2011, 07:04 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't see worrying about negative entity influence as a step to knowing self. I see allowing the experience to play out is a step in knowing self. The more love, even naive love, we practice shapes the self we will come to know after any experience.
    Then don't worry, allow experience to play out, and practice naive love. There is no particular technique suggested or best way to know oneself. I think it's important to realize that because 'all is one', the other can be seen as an aspect of self, but only if the self is known first. And one can only have 'love' for that entity to the extent one has self-acceptance. So truly, that kind of 'love' is not an application of circumstantial emotion that may be thought of as 'loving' in nature - it is the experience of an actualized creator.

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    3DMonkey

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    07-05-2011, 07:40 AM
    Candidly, a PART of my current expressions on the subject is to perceive not that higher density beings are 'more powerful' or 'have an upper hand' in our relationship with them. They don't.
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    #35
    07-05-2011, 07:49 AM
    (07-05-2011, 07:40 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Candidly, a PART of my current expressions on the subject is to perceive not that higher density beings are 'more powerful' or 'have an upper hand' in our relationship with them. They don't.
    Of course they are more powerful. They are capable, now, of actualizing more of the creator. 'power' is not negative it's the potential to do something. But you also say 'have an upper hand' as if they were related. What does it mean to 'have an upper hand'. Does the sun have an 'upper hand' on the photon?

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    07-05-2011, 09:03 AM
    I mean that the average 4D or greater density entity isn't the sure fire winner like Goliath. We tend to speak as though they are Gandolf and 3Ders are mere hobbits. This is something I, personally, am realizing is not the case. Therefore, I'm putting it into my posts.

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    #37
    07-05-2011, 09:34 AM
    i agree Monkey. it seems the upper densities are as clueless about things as we are.

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    07-05-2011, 10:19 AM
    I mean a fifth density entity's best attack is to wedge into a distortion of energy and try to pull our strings to encourage our own thoughts we created. I mean, I've been visited plenty by negative entities when a suicidal thought, just a thought mind you, enters my mind.

    "duh, winning!"

    Powerful?, maybe relatively. Better?, not really.

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    #39
    07-05-2011, 10:25 AM
    3D, is it because of free will that the 5D- can't do more than put in a wedge? Or is it our own 3D power is really that powerful that 5D can't do much to it?

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    07-05-2011, 10:55 AM
    Either way. There is always "physics". I could have an 8 foot wingspan, clearly more capable of tickling your ear before you tickle mine, but in all my "power", I'm prevented from doing that at this moment.

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    Raman

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    07-05-2011, 08:58 PM
    (07-05-2011, 07:00 AM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-04-2011, 08:44 PM)Raman Wrote: That applied to the 5d negative entity lurking around at that time... and Carla then was not only in trance but 5d/6d entities able to use violet chakra entry and really mess things up...including transporting to negative time-space.
    Yes and 3D and 4D entities are also capable of inducing great feelings of joy, positive spiritual feelings, etc. regardless of their service orientation.

    Only for a limited amount of time for pos. Unless the receiver totally blocks green/blue and then is just feeding/giving precisely the interplay of rays that negs use.

    Only 5d and above apparently are able to enter through violet and then it was during a trance state.

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    #42
    07-10-2011, 12:34 AM
    (07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: None of us have ANY WAY of knowing it.
    Incorrect.

    (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
    The obvious advantage is manipulation or confusion by creating an association with what one 'thinks' is desirable and that which is offered as 'truth'.

    (07-05-2011, 06:55 AM)zenmaster Wrote: But unless and until we know ourselves, we are subject to the vagaries and imbalance of the unconscious and the free will of others choices.

    (07-05-2011, 07:23 AM)zenmaster Wrote: There is no particular technique suggested or best way to know oneself. I think it's important to realize that because 'all is one', the other can be seen as an aspect of self, but only if the self is known first. And one can only have 'love' for that entity to the extent one has self-acceptance.

    I agree here. It is a simple query to ask what polarization a being is. I had gotten a neutral for one which confused me at first, then I recalled that polarization only exists to a certain point.


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    07-10-2011, 03:57 AM
    (07-04-2011, 05:36 PM)Nyu Wrote: Anyway LOL at the garlic idea, I'm so totally doing that today haha. And I'm also going to visualise the white light, and oh how I WISH Icaro's suggestion of help could be utilized Tongue

    Thanks again, I'll let you all know what happens. xoxo


    Has the garlic had any effect, Nyu? How are you doing?

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    #44
    07-10-2011, 11:11 AM
    (07-10-2011, 12:34 AM)Pickle Wrote:
    (07-04-2011, 12:50 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
    (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: None of us have ANY WAY of knowing it.
    Incorrect.

    (07-04-2011, 12:40 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Advantage? Your current thoughts are baffling me.
    The obvious advantage is manipulation or confusion by creating an association with what one 'thinks' is desirable and that which is offered as 'truth'.

    (07-05-2011, 06:55 AM)zenmaster Wrote: But unless and until we know ourselves, we are subject to the vagaries and imbalance of the unconscious and the free will of others choices.

    (07-05-2011, 07:23 AM)zenmaster Wrote: There is no particular technique suggested or best way to know oneself. I think it's important to realize that because 'all is one', the other can be seen as an aspect of self, but only if the self is known first. And one can only have 'love' for that entity to the extent one has self-acceptance.

    I agree here. It is a simple query to ask what polarization a being is. I had gotten a neutral for one which confused me at first, then I recalled that polarization only exists to a certain point.
    51% STO is fairly neutral based on my understanding. This is the situation with the beginning 4th density societies, where 'beginning' is like a million years.

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    #45
    07-10-2011, 11:38 AM
    Actually the neutral applied to Bashar the ET being channeled. BigSmile

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    #46
    07-10-2011, 06:31 PM
    Hey Meerie! I have been visualizing light and protection although I don't think the garlic made a difference. The tension has eased but isn't gone. But in good news my bf and I decided to move away from the city early next year so I feel more positive knowing this situation is temporary.

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    #47
    07-28-2011, 06:37 PM
    Hey everyone, I just wanted to update on this because I'm pleasantly stunned - ask and ye really shall receive! As you know this situation was VERY stressful, and I asked and asked for a way to separate from this person, but I had no clue how to do it. It escalated to the point where she tried to get me fired, but our bosses like my work so they told her it wasn't going to happen. Then suddenly this week she just up and left! So now I've been told the office is mine to find someone more compatible with me. It wasn't my intention for it to work out that way, I was just hoping to stick with it long enough to leave myself, but the universe has spoken and its all now such a relief, and I'm SO thankful that it worked, and that this particular "lesson" is over.

    I believe the lesson was that you love everyone, but you can't make them love you, and I chose in the end to love the person that she could someday be (that I saw glimpses of here and there), not the person she is now and I realised that while I needed to be away from her, I didn't "hate" her. If she ever comes to me someday needing help I will give it with a loving heart, and if she someday opened her heart to me I will forgive her, and that's all I can do. So the lesson is done.

    Anyway, the point is that asking the universe really does work! It's amazing and I hope everyone can feel more confident to do this when they need to.

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    #48
    07-28-2011, 09:17 PM
    My two cents, for what it's worth, I don't really follow much LOO philosophy any more, but I think it's fairly right on the money when it comes to accuracy truth-wise... I'm more of a law of attraction student as of late, so probably some of this advice will run along those lines.

    I'd say just focus on yourself and be ok with yourself. If you remain true to your own values beliefs ideas happiness etc, then I don't think that she'll affect you. And really, the only way she can affect you is if you think about her a lot or think that the way she lives her life or what she says or thinks about you affects you in any way. What she thinks believes knows wants etc only affects you if you make it affect you and I think you could fairly easily tune her out. And since it's a situation where you have to be near her often, just let her be herself while you remain yourself. You don't have to agree with her, and maybe you guys won't end up being friends at all. If she says an opinion that you disagree with, you could be easy about disagreeing, but not needing her to see your side or anything...

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    #49
    07-28-2011, 09:22 PM
    That's very good news, Nyu, thanks for passing it along. It's even possible that your higher self and hers met up and decided that you weren't going anywhere, so she should. Whatever! Cool

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    07-28-2011, 11:25 PM
    Josh, with a normal person this would be true but I do not believe this person was/is normal. I tried EVERYTHING, being nice anyway, being comfortable with myself anyway, focusing on work, other friendships around the office and even just saying "ok we are different, let's just put that aside and try and work together anyway" and the more I tried coming up with ways around the situation, the angrier it seemed to make her and the more vindictive she became. I've never come up against someone like that before and it was really hard! When she left even my bosses came to me and told me they saw exactly what was going on and thanked me for my strength and loyalty to get through it, which was really lovely.

    Kycahi, that's probably what happened..

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    07-29-2011, 12:09 AM (This post was last modified: 07-29-2011, 12:18 AM by Tenet Nosce.)
    (07-04-2011, 05:39 AM)Nyu Wrote: I can't just quit my job though, I have a family to support.

    Sure you can! Nyu, you are a being of limitless potential. Perhaps it would not be ideal to simply quit your job and walk away, but contemplation of the fact that you could is worth consideration.

    If you could have any "job" you wanted (and I use that term loosely) what would it be?

    Quote:I've even thought about cursing her somehow, but people say that causes "bad karma", so I simply do not know how to handle this situation. Any suggestions??

    Do you mean "curse" as in a magical ritual intended to bring about harm to another? Or do you mean "curse" as in speaking your mind, and saying how you really feel?

    (07-04-2011, 12:51 PM)Oceania Wrote: if a negative entity is offered love aren't they gonna recoil?
    According to my experience with negative entities, not necessarily.

    (07-28-2011, 06:37 PM)Nyu Wrote: I believe the lesson was that you love everyone, but you can't make them love you, and I chose in the end to love the person that she could someday be (that I saw glimpses of here and there), not the person she is now and I realised that while I needed to be away from her, I didn't "hate" her. If she ever comes to me someday needing help I will give it with a loving heart, and if she someday opened her heart to me I will forgive her, and that's all I can do. So the lesson is done.

    Perhaps I would benefit from reading a whole thread before responding. Still, I would offer that if another seems intent on displaying despicableness, the highest course of action would be to acknowledge their despicability. "Go F^(& Yourself" can be quite the empowering statement, when applied in the appropriate context.
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    07-29-2011, 03:29 AM
    tenet, re curses haha yeah I looked online for "white magic" ones like burning paper or writing their name in lemon juice with mantras about them moving away etc but I decided that was all probably no different to just asking during meditation, so I meditated instead. I didn't want her to be hurt, only for a chance to be away from her.

    and I'm a struggling single mum in a tough job market with high rent. I did not want to leave unless it was absolutely necessary. she is a trophy wife for a rich scientist. let her be the one to go I say.

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    07-29-2011, 03:31 AM
    That is great to hear, Nyu! And even more so to hear that your bosses saw what was going on and thanked you. Awesome.

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    07-29-2011, 03:44 AM
    Thank you darling Meerie. I wish I could work with someone like you guys. that's what I'm asking for next, someone who is of the light. It's exciting now though, the weight is off and there's endless possibilities to make something wonderful happen.

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    I think there are a few more posters from Australia, have you considered doing a meet-up "down under"?
    It is really amazing to connect with like-minded people, I have seen Ankh and transiten in Sweden a couple weeks ago and I was floating on love and light the whole time.
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    07-29-2011, 04:03 AM
    Ive thought about it, though a bit nervous to step out of the anonymity bubble yet haha..

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    07-29-2011, 02:47 PM
    I feel that way a lot of time, Nyu, but you know that the odds are very high that you won't meet up with an awful person. In fact, they are very high that anybody involved with the Material will be a kindred spirit.

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    07-29-2011, 09:16 PM
    I would like to give some practical advice. I would do one or the other:

    1. Start looking for another job, or research higher education, or develop some entrepreneurial business ideas. If you are stuck in an untenable situation, ACTION is a way out, not analyzing too much. Just looking for an alternative will make you feel better.

    2. Stay working there, and just "be of service." Don't be a victim to this woman. Just know that you are being of service and it will help you to be "in this world and not of it."

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    07-30-2011, 03:54 PM (This post was last modified: 07-30-2011, 06:20 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    Yesterday, shortly after my post on the Raw food and oral allergy syndrome which has since been moved to In regards to eating meat (post at 1:12 pm) I experienced what could have been a 5D attack. I am hesitant to say for sure, because the nature of such things are so subjective.

    The "attack" started at my crown chakra, and progressed its way down over the next several hours. Each point along the way had its own set of symptoms. It started with a tingling sensation on the top of my head, spreading to my temples and forehead, then a dull throb along my occipital ridge, passing to difficulty breathing and speaking, numbness and tingling in my extremities then increased heart rate and palpitations, finally culminating in nausea, vomiting, and some loose bowel movements.

    Concomitant with this, I perceived my mind to be flooded with information from all directions. I was getting overwhelming psychic impressions from every person I came into contact with, I was also flooded with impressions that an automobile accident was imminent and that my life was in danger.

    Rather than attempt to engage the purported entity directly, I got myself home and promptly sat in my yard, back and head up against a tree, and with my hands and bare feet touching the earth. Instead of trying to control or direct the seeming confrontation, I put my trust in my body to know how to handle itself, and simply tried to focus on physical sensations. Feeling the tree on my back, and the earth under my feet. Looking at the clouds, listening to the wind and the birds, etc.

    I started to feel better, and went back inside. The symptoms immediately returned. So I went outside again and laid down in the grass, alternating between my front side and my back side being in contact with the earth. After a short while longer, I began to heave and vomit.

    Just as this moment arrived, I recalled having been given a "protective" spirit called an arcana by a Peruvian shaman during an initiatory ayahuasca ceremony. I had long since cut off ties with the shaman after he lied to me and would not stop begging me for money, even after I had given him a very generous "tip".

    During the heaving and vomiting episode, I ordered this spirit out of my body and into the earth. After this occurrence, the symptoms subsided quite a bit, although it still took a while to recover. I felt mostly "back to normal" at 7:42 pm yesterday, July 29, 2011, exactly 34 years after the moment of my birth. The entire time span of the "attack" lasting 6.5 hours.

    Please note, at no time during this experience did I invoke any sort of "protective" light or appeal to "light beings" or "spirit guides". Nor did I recite any mantras, prayers, or perform any rituals. I did however, envision my own personal light emerging from within my chakras, and filling my body from within, and found the thoughts "I AM ME" and "I TRUST MYSELF" to have an overall soothing and palliative effect.

    After I felt recovered enough to venture back out into public, we went for a late dinner at my favorite Lebanese restaurant. I ordered lamb kebabs, and my girlfriend ordered kibbeh nayyeh, and we shared. This seemed to have a stabilizing effect on my energy. As did tobacco.

    I did also notice that a massive coronal hole opened on the sun yesterday. May or may not be related. Also possibly, or possibly not, related, was the passing of my cousin (by marriage) "Don" after a long battle with dementia, and a brief stint in a mental institution, as well as the landing of tropical storm "Don" in south Texas. My girlfriend reports being given suggestions that I would never return to normal, and have to be placed in a mental institution.

    Of also possibly relevant interest is that I had a friend who some years back succumbed to, what I perceive to be, a 5D attack. The thrust of the manipulation was his unshakable belief that I was spearheading a conspiracy amongst our friends to have him committed to a mental institution. As far as I am aware, he has never fully recovered, and is now under treatment for schizophrenia. See my post in An appreciation of 'Outlier' Don Elkins for reference.

    Other possibly related events include UFO sightings in Texas and Australia, the discovery of a possible UFO on the ocean floor, and the announcement of new technologies capable of remote control via thoughts and invisibility cloaks. Other interesting scientific news from yesterday include some new insights into how modern humans killed off the Neanderthals, and identification of the first trojan asteroid.

    Also, a new crop circle appeared yesterday.

    Here is a good article on Dislodging Negative Entity Attachments, with some additional resources listed at the end.


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    07-30-2011, 10:46 PM
    Whoa, that's really intense, Tenet! Do you have any idea what triggered it? Knowing how they get in the door can offer a clue.

    Your experience sounds kinda like an acid flashback.

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