The Law of Attraction

[Namaste]

NAMASTE :idea: a wonderful Neptune in pisces post! Entered on april 4: Photographing as service and healing Watch the astrology thread for more

I'm intrigued! Can you divulge further?

[Ankh]

Thank you, brother.

To add, people often get confused with TLOA and achieve only an increased dissatisfaction/impatience with their current circumstances.

I agree. It is also intertwined with your previous words that Universe/Creator will give you that you wish to experience, depending on your wish of course. When I had enough of my previous work, I reached out to that Infinite Source and thanked it for everything and completely trusted that it will provide me soon with work where I can be of service, and which would be for the best for others, me and the whole creation. Guess what happened?

[transiten]

Thank you, brother.

To add, people often get confused with TLOA and achieve only an increased dissatisfaction/impatience with their current circumstances.

I agree. It is also intertwined with your previous words that Universe/Creator will give you that you wish to experience, depending on your wish of course. When I had enough of my previous work, I reached out to that Infinite Source and thanked it for everything and completely trusted that it will provide me soon with work where I can be of service, and which would be for the best for others, me and the whole creation. Guess what happened?

Please tell me "The Secret" Ankh i would surely need it...or perhaps some pple choose before reincarnating not to be "successful" no matter what - as a lesson...

Also one may have an unconscious fear of succeeding since with that might come great responasabilities...or evoke jealousy and counteractions from the less successful...

I have consciously tried to be of service in my endavours, i've had some success in my life but also hughe catalysts and a lot of personal issues that might have had another agenda affecting the STOactions...

Maybe i've had negative greetings...i don't know how to tell the difference...

Also what is more important? The action or the intention behind it? Sometimes a good intention will bring about a negative consequence and it may even work the other way around.

"The ways of the Lord are unfathomable" as we say in Sweden (from the bible)

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[Ankh]

Hey! You learned how to quote!

It depends, as I said, on what one is looking for. When you come in touch with that, the Universe/Creator will provide everything for you in order for you to find it. There are superficial needs, and one might enjoy them for a while, and Creator might (or might not) provide it for you too. But after a while, there is an emptiness that makes itself known. For me step one was to come in touch with my Higher Self. Step two was to come in touch with my basic self. And both were equally valuable resources in discovering that true inner voice that is unique for each. With these basics and heights I understood my true desire regarding work. I wished to find a place that was in deep need of me, like the one that we are looking for in the creation, but only in life, here upon Earth, right now. I visualized that this place was calling to me, like a lover, and we just had to find each other. At that place I would be of most service and all my talents, even those I have not discovered yet, would come in blossom. That place would benefit most highly from my presence, as I would benefit from it. But all that was still in shadow, as the highest desire was that I would serve the Creator, in the ways It finds appropriate. And that faith must be strong, there had to be no doubts about it (sometimes they still come, but hey, we are only human). When this door is opened the Infinite Source will provide you with everything in order for you to be able to serve the One.

Känner du till Dénis Lindbohm?

"The ways of the Lord are unfathomable" as we say in Sweden (from the bible)

Kan du säga det på svenska? För jag fattar inte...

[Meerie]

Wow Transiten you managed the quotation! Congratulations!
I am not sure what to think of this whole LoA stuff.
One part of me finds it fascinating, but on the other hand I guess we all have what we need, in a certain way.
If we are hit hard by catalysts then because it is necessary to live thru them and grow.
Where do we draw the line, between suffering from catalysts and wanting to end the suffering, by choosing another job, another boyfriend etc.
When does it make sense to stay in a situation with catalysts and when should we try to get out of it, and to a hopefully better future?
or does none of that matter anyway, because life on Earth was never meant to be one big party (except maybe for Charlie Sheen, and I am not sure he is happy deep down inside either )

[Ankh]

because life on Earth was never meant to be one big party (except maybe for Charlie Sheen, and I am not sure he is happy deep down inside either )

lol!!!!

[Meerie]

I wished to find a place that was in deep need of me, like the one that we are looking for in the creation, but only in life, here upon Earth, right now. I visualized that this place was calling to me, like a lover, and we just had to find each other. At that place I would be of most service and all my talents, even those I have not discovered yet, would come in blossom. That place would benefit most highly from my presence, as I would benefit from it.

That is lovely Ankh! let me make a guess... that place was....
bring4th!

[Ankh]

That is lovely Ankh! let me make a guess... that place was....
bring4th!

lol!!!!!

Bring4th is like a farm where freshly, new chickens are being hatched and then they stay under the warmth and security for a while. So I am not sure whether Bring4th was in need of another chicken, but I sure is in need of it!

[transiten]

Thanyou Ankh! Well this way of quoting i already new, that includes the whole meassage, but the tricky thing was to select just one part of the post, and i haven't figured that out just yet since my computor and telephone are not "mercury retrograde" working properly at the moment..i just get short intervals where i can post...

Well i'm looking for just that, find a place where i can be of greatest service and i've been on Divine Cosmos for several years, on Bring4th for one and before that i was a seeker for a long time..perhaps my wish is not strong enough...

Anyway in swedish Ankh "The ways of the Lord are unfathomable" means "Herrens vägar äro outgrundliga" which may correpond to "This dimension is not for understanding" as Raa puts it.

Det står också i biblen "Ske din vilja och icke min" which would be the same as "To serve the creator in the way "It" finds appropriate.

And what is "It"? It sounds very impersonal to me. I think language is important, to me "The whole" or "Everything there is" or "Everybody" or at least "As many as possible"...The creator is a living entity since We are All The Creator right?

Also Wynn Free who wrote the book "The reincarnation of Edgar Cacey?"
has through Daphne and Terry contact with "The Elohim" also mentioned in the bible. They are of a sublter density than Ra who had more recent incarnations on earth, but they cooperate.

That could refer to "There are many mansions in my fathers house"

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Where did that instrucive info about quoting disappear???
I haven't had time to study it? or was it "mercury retrograde" in another thread? I'm confused...

Don't even remember who helped me wit that now..but THANKYOU anyway..

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[Ocean]

Meerie i think we should try to get out of unpleasant situations, we're not supposed to consciously go out of our way to keep our lives difficult, i'm sure our HS will do that for us. that's my opinion on that.

[Ankh]

perhaps my wish is not strong enough...

What do you wish for then?

Anyway in swedish Ankh "The ways of the Lord are unfathomable" means "Herrens vägar äro outgrundliga" which may correpond to "This dimension is not for understanding" as Raa puts it.

Oh I see. Was ages ago I read Bible, and don't remember that much.

And what is "It"? It sounds very impersonal to me. I think language is important, to me "The whole" or "Everything there is" or "Everybody" or at least "As many as possible"...The creator is a living entity since We are All The Creator right?

For me the Creator is not a He or a She, it is IT! You know like in - that's it! But you may use whatever pronouns that resonates for you.

Also Wynn Free who wrote the book "The reincarnation of Edgar Cacey?"
has through Daphne and Terry contact with "The Elohim" also mentioned in the bible. They are of a sublter density than Ra who had more recent incarnations on earth, but they cooperate.

Who are they? Like angels or what?

Where did that instrucive info about quoting disappear???
I haven't had time to study it? or was it "mercury retrograde" in another thread? I'm confused...

Don't even remember who helped me wit that now..but THANKYOU anyway..

That would be brother Derek and you find this thread in the below link:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...370&page=4

You and your mercury! lol!!!

[transiten]

Hello Ankh!

Well exactly what you did just now, to separate the quotations and answer one at a time is what i haven't figured out!

Anyway

I wish for what i said: To be in a place where i can use my talents like singing and teaching others to sing (which is my profession) astrology, spiritual knowledge, live a healthy life, eat ecological grown and produced food, drink KangenWater etc.

Daphne and Terry are living women like Carla. Wynn and Carla have been on the same radioshows. you can check out WynnFree on the internet, just google for him.

I'm not the only one experiencing the effects of mercury retrograde, it's a collective thing reflected in the heavens "as above so below" and it's mirroring our collective actions that also are experienced on the personal level.

Everything in life manifests in cycles, the energies are built up and manifest in different ways depending on our collective and personal maturity and consiousness about out shadowsides that have to be intergrated together with the ones that we are conscious about. The shadowside also contains positive material that we've for some reason (taboo or repression) have not been able to manifest.

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[Ocean]

ohh! if you wanna separate then quote and remove the part of text that you want out and make another quote for another part of text.

[Ankh]

Hello Ankh!

Well exactly what you did just now, to separate the quotations and answer one at a time is what i haven't figured out!

Hello transiten!

Did Derek explained it to you in that thread?

I wish for what i said: To be in a place where i can use my talents like singing and teaching others to sing (which is my profession) astrology, spiritual knowledge, live a healthy life, eat ecological grown and produced food, drink KangenWater etc.

Well, that was loads of stuff to ask! If you wish I can try to help. Just send me a PM and I'll give you my email.

Daphne and Terry are living women like Carla. Wynn and Carla have been on the same radioshows. you can check out WynnFree on the internet, just google for him.

I meant "Elohim" - who are they?

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Ankh from sunny Stockholm

P.S. Känner du till Dénis Lindbohm?

[Ocean]

jag älskar honom! nej, jag är kidding, vem är det? lol i suck at svenska.

[transiten]

Hi Ankh

Elohim is also a social memory complex like Ra but operating at a more subtle vibrational level. Wynn Free sends "message a day" that one can join, where this and a lot of things discussed here are explained.

The "stuff" i'm asking about is mostly what i've been doing for a living only that the hughe karma hit threw me out of balance and out of the level where i could live from it. I just want to come back to that level but that's not an easy thing to do after what i went through even if i am "back" ...

And of course the spiritual aspect was NOT there back then, it was the peace movement and the leftwinged politics. Now i want to include the spiritual perspective into what i'm doing and then you can imagine that it's not easy to make a living from that, so it has to be a compromise..

...if The Law of Attraction would bring me that but it's not something one can ask for or that i want to aim at, we all have our own lessons and our own specific path to learn them.

Dénis Lindbohm...ska googla

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..and time is: 21.12

[Bang Kaew]

I am delighted to read a discussion on the LoA with regards to the Law of One. My question has always been, did I attract events in my life? Did my higher self arrange events? Or, were they pre incarnate choices?

I have some health issues and I just would like to know if it was because I had a low vibration or because I was disconnected with source energy in my early life - as Abraham Hicks say. I sometimes think the LoA is a type of superstition!

[kycahi]

I am delighted to read a discussion on the LoA with regards to the Law of One. My question has always been, did I attract events in my life? Did my higher self arrange events? Or, were they pre incarnate choices?

I have some health issues and I just would like to know if it was because I had a low vibration or because I was disconnected with source energy in my early life - as Abraham Hicks say. I sometimes think the LoA is a type of superstition!

Welcome to your new crowd, BK.

IMHO, you did set up some parameters for this life which made the events likely, although not certain. So they were pre-inc choices, and maybe HS did stuff too.

Those include health issues , unfortunately. We discussed recently whether Wanderers have those things in common, especially ADD and other mental handicaps. I postulated that, because they might not evade some traps in this existence, such as the arrogance of power, Wanderers programmed those issues to keep from being viewed (including by themselves) as perfect.

So thank your HS for the thoughtful gift and don't think that it's something bad within you. You are fine.

[native]

What I found to be quite revealing is how health issues can be symbolic of someone who is overly service to others oriented. This lifetime is then attempting to balance a bias by urging the person to dedicate time to themselves, to have self love, and that it's not necessary to place all burden on their shoulders.

[Bring4th_Austin]

The part about daydreams seems to relate to techniques used by things which talk about the Law of Attraction, like the Secret:

16.48 Questioner: Do things like daydreams become real in other densities?
Ra: I am Ra. This depends upon the nature of the daydream. This is a large subject. Perhaps the simplest thing we can say is, if the daydream, as you call it, is one which attracts to self, this then becomes reality to self. If it is a contemplative general daydream, this may enter the infinity of possibility/probability complexes and occur elsewhere, having no particular attachment to the energy fields of the creator.

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16.50 Questioner: Then if an entity daydreams strongly about battling an entity, would this occur?
Ra: I am Ra. In this case the entity’s fantasy concerns the self and other-self, this binding the thought-form to the possibility/probability complex connected with the self which is the creator of this thought-form. This then would increase the possibility/probability of bringing this into third-density occurrence

Seems to me like daydreams or visualization do help attract to self?

But I personally don't believe we "attract" every single occurrence into our life. We must be offered catalyst to help get past bias, right? We can't be sure to attract the right catalyst for what we have planned for in our incarnation.

[AnthroHeart]

I've found there's much more to the law of attraction than thinking or having emotion toward a goal. Sometimes we are so far out of alignment that there is virtually no attraction. Even if one thinks about their goal a lot.
Being able to tune into the vibration of people and their goals I've been able to feel how dense the energy sometimes is. If the person is way out of line from their goal, their energy is very dense and hard to shift. It's like working with hard clay, except using the indigo ray to sculpt.

Two vibrations can be brought into attractive alignment, and then this can be intensified. For me it's about using indigo ray to press programming onto a person's field to shift it into alignment with their goal.

Then there are times where the person isn't really in line with themselves. Their energy is all over the place, and not really unified (where all pieces work together). Once a person's field is aligned, it can be shifted to be in alignment with their goal.

This really comes down to timelines, or shifting timelines. One presses a certain programming into the field with a certain intent,, and they shift their timeline to one where the goal can happen.

But energy is slow to shift sometimes. I worked last night with someone who was full of anxiety. It took two hours of shifting their field to a place of peace and centeredness. But I'm not changing the person really. I'm shifting my own timeline to one where the person is more peaceful, and where our timelines cross, that is where we end up.

To sum up, sometimes the energy is so dense to shift that it takes a bit more than just thoughts and emotions to shift. I went full force for two hours to shift a person's field. There were many layers to get through.

[Bang Kaew]

IMHO, you did set up some parameters for this life which made the events likely, although not certain. So they were pre-inc choices, and maybe HS did stuff too.

Thanks kycahi. That is actually how I feel. I do think what Abraham Hicks say is true to a certain extent. Just now I watched some AH videos about karma and what I think they are saying is, that one may create events before an incarnation to aleviate some perceived guilt and they do that by feeling guilty. That feeling of guilt is a low vibration which in turn creates events in the incarnation. They then say, I think, that you can create a better future at any time by keeping a high vibration.

I suppose the concept of vibration creating events, which is what AH say the LOA is, is the same as the concept of wanderers having health issues because they find the 3d density vibration difficult. What I do not like about AH is that I feel they baby their answers. I would love to know what Carla thinks!

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What I found to be quite revealing is how health issues can be symbolic of someone who is overly service to others oriented.

Did Ra not say that the STS entity was often the picture of health because they have the discipline or self centeredness to never allow themselves to be harmed, either to body or mind. I suppose that is the same as saying that the STS entity never allows himself to have a feeling of guilt or low vibration. This is actually what Abraham Hicks say, that you should never lower your vibration for any reason. And that if you have to lower your vibration to help someone, then you should not!

[native]

Did Ra not say that the STS entity was often the picture of health because they have the discipline or self centeredness to never allow themselves to be harmed, either to body or mind. I suppose that is the same as saying that the STS entity never allows himself to have a feeling of guilt or low vibration. This is actually what Abraham Hicks say, that you should never lower your vibration for any reason. And that if you have to lower your vibration to help someone, then you should not!

Yeah which was strange at first, because I figured separation would actually create health issues. I imagine it pertains to a more polarized focused negative being.

[Oceania]

lowering your vibration doesn't help the one who's of low vibration, standing firm in high vibration allows the other to be lifted up!

[native]

I've found there's much more to the law of attraction than thinking or having emotion toward a goal. Sometimes we are so far out of alignment that there is virtually no attraction. Even if one thinks about their goal a lot.

Being able to tune into the vibration of people and their goals I've been able to feel how dense the energy sometimes is.

A lot of people aren't sure of what they're really after either, and they're off pursuing more illusory distractions.

[Oceania]

what illusory distractions? i'm tired of people talking vaguely.

[native]

Anything that doesn't nurture the true being of the individual. An unfulfilling but successful job, material distractions etc.

[kycahi]

What I found to be quite revealing is how health issues can be symbolic of someone who is overly service to others oriented.

Did Ra not say that the STS entity was often the picture of health because they have the discipline or self centeredness to never allow themselves to be harmed, either to body or mind. I suppose that is the same as saying that the STS entity never allows himself to have a feeling of guilt or low vibration. This is actually what Abraham Hicks say, that you should never lower your vibration for any reason. And that if you have to lower your vibration to help someone, then you should not!

I try to figure the simplest explanation for something and here, I think about the kind of person who would Choose STS. Let's say he lived many lives on Earth (or elsewhere 3D, doesn't matter) and now is an adult, which means childhood and adolescent experiences still fresh in mind.

Those experiences made him just fall into a life of STS because during those years convincing others to do stuff came easy. That must have been because he had a certain appearance of success: dressing well, a strong bearing, fit, with a confident outlook. So the good health just got "selected," similar to the Darwinist selection of the fittest of a species. Of course, he probably programmed these success features while in time/space because he already wanted to try the STS life.

:idea: This is another argument for Wanderers having programmed some elements opposite of those traits.

As I said in another post, I usually try to avoid gender-specific pronouns or mix them, but here I assume that STSers are mostly male. That may change as women continue to achieve more leadership opportunities. Probably already is changing.

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what illusory distractions? i'm tired of people talking vaguely.

Most people on the planet, although fewer than ever before, we hope, haven't made their Choice yet; they just bumble around pursuing whatever lives strike their fancy. Our job, if we choose to accept it, is to coax them into Choosing STO or STS while they still can.

They don't NEED to make a Choice--they still have forever to do it, but Ra hinted that Wanderers are popping up in droves to kick those bumblers into getting off the proverbial couch. Maybe that's because they/we get points for moving them out of 3D. As the planet should already be 4D, perhaps it's only the 3D dead weight that's slowing it down from manifesting properly. Perhaps the more Choosing that happens, the less the planet has to make big, noisy quakes and floods.

[3DMonkey]

Sts don't rule this world. One doesn't have to be a ruler to be sts. Mothers and seductresses have plenty of leverage to manipulate and control others in sts fashion.

"TPTB" aren't necessarily sts.

[Bang Kaew]

lowering your vibration doesn't help the one who's of low vibration, standing firm in high vibration allows the other to be lifted up!

I agree, but what Abraham is saying I think is, if by caring for someone who is say dying, and you can not help but feel sad and therefore lower your vibration, then you should not care for that person - because it lowers the vibration. Maybe in the grand scheme of things they are right, but I do not think that is STO. Maybe Ra had to lower their vibration in order to channel through Carla?

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Sts don't rule this world. One doesn't have to be a ruler to be sts. Mothers and seductresses have plenty of leverage to manipulate and control others in sts fashion.

"TPTB" aren't necessarily sts.

I am pretty sure Ra said that those in, or had a lust for, power were STS, many of which at the top of the pyramid were in communication with the Orion group. Q'uo also said that the road to STS is normally started with the desire to help. The desire to make things fair, to organise events, all of which requires a degree of power. The problem is that even if those in power start off with good intentions and a desire to serve, they still obstruct others free will.

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Q'uo says,

:Before we leave this topic we would focus once more upon the rich and fertile land of spiritual choice, the dark world within. Each of you gaze within. Do you feel magical? Do you feel powerful? If the answer comes too easily it is likely that there is that within you which would choose the easy way towards power; that is, the path of negativity, for each step upon the negative path seems from within to be positive. One wishes power so that one may help people. The way to help people is to give advice, give teaching, make sure that all is well by controlling various people and circumstances. All these things feel natural and good. Most beginning negative entities have no idea that they are embarking upon the path of negativity. Contrasting with this is the positive path where power is accrued by being the weakest, and true greatness is achieved by being the servant of others, where advice and teaching are given only when requested.