Socialism of 4D, Capitalism, Is Money STS?

[3DMonkey]

Does anyone else notice how much threads connect Uniquely on a daily basis as much as I notice?

This thread is tied with the idea of expressing will without expectations of outcome. I'd say this is the energy theme for the day.

[Confused]

Does anyone else notice how much threads connect Uniquely on a daily basis as much as I notice?

transiten too said something like that yesterday.

[Monica]

I would add to it that it is also useful to release the feeling of wanting to receive gratitude from the others for whom we feel worry.

If we start feeling entitled to gratitude from the others for the concern that we experience for them, we might be left disillusioned as they suddenly seem to move away oblivious to our feelings for them. In many cases, we might even end up feeling used. As Ra said, do your work and relinquish desire for any particular outcome.

Agreed! At the same time, some 'New Age' teachers take this idea too far (in my opinion) almost to the point of not caring about others at all. I heard 1 famous guru say that if you see someone in need of help, to walk away, so as to not interfere with their karma. And a lot of 'New Age' self-help gurus teach mememememememe philosophy. If you tell them your problems, they say, "Oh those are your issues" instead of showing any compassion. Bleh! How cold! Same with mega-church pastors..."Name it claim it! If you aren't rich you're not praying hard enough!"

[Confused]

I heard 1 famous guru say that if you see someone in need of help, to walk away, so as to not interfere with their karma.

I know what you mean there. In fact, I get to see that a lot among 'my' own community in my country.

[thefool]

It is when we let others and their suffering affect us in a negative way. We try to carry their burdens for them rather than let them sort their lives out., the entanglement ensues---

This might be helpful here in this discussion about others-
"Because others cannot vibrate in your experience, they cannot affect the outcome of your experience. They can hold their opinions, but unless their opinion affects your opinion, their opinion matters not at all. A million people could be pushing against you and it would not negatively affect you unless you push back. That million people pushing against you are affecting their millions of vibrations. They are affecting what happens in their experience. They are affecting their point of attraction, but it does not affect you unless you push against them.

--- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Orlando, FL on Saturday, February 21st, 1998 # 72"

[3DMonkey]

I heard 1 famous guru say that if you see someone in need of help, to walk away, so as to not interfere with their karma.

I know what you mean there. In fact, I get to see that a lot among 'my' own community in my country.

Response or no response. Both are valid.

42.1 Questioner: I am going to make a statement and ask you to comment on its degree of accuracy. I am assuming that the balanced entity would not be swayed either towards positive or negative emotions by any situation which he might confront. By remaining unemotional in any situation, the balanced entity may clearly discern the appropriate and necessary responses in harmony with the Law of One for each situation. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is an incorrect application of the balancing which we have discussed. The exercise of first experiencing feelings and then consciously discovering their antitheses within the being has as its objective not the smooth flow of feelings both positive and negative while remaining unswayed but rather the objective of becoming unswayed. This is a simpler result and takes much practice, shall we say.

The catalyst of experience works in order for the learn/teachings of this density to occur. However, if there is seen in the being a response, even if it is simply observed, the entity is still using the catalyst for learn/teaching. The end result is that the catalyst is no longer needed. Thus this density is no longer needed. This is not indifference or objectivity but a finely tuned compassion and love which sees all things as love. This seeing elicits no response due to catalytic reactions. Thus the entity is now able to become co-Creator of experiential occurrences. This is the truer balance.

Although, NOT even a guru can make that decision for another.
It is the orientation of the Self that will decide what is best suitable.

33.8 Questioner: Thank you. From this I would extrapolate to the conjecture that the orientation in mind of the entity is the only thing that is of any consequence at all. The physical catalyst that he experiences, regardless of what is happening about him, will be a function strictly of his orientation in mind. I will use as an example (example deleted) this being a statement of the orientation in mind governing the catalyst. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. We prefer not to use any well-known examples, sayings, or adages in our communications to you due to the tremendous amount of distortion which any well-known saying has undergone. Therefore, we may answer the first part of your query asking that you delete the example. It is completely true to the best of our knowledge that the orientation or polarization of the mind/body/spirit complex is the cause of the perceptions generated by each entity. Thus a scene may be observed in your grocery store. The entity ahead of self may be without sufficient funds. One entity may then take this opportunity to steal. Another may take this opportunity to feel itself a failure. Another may unconcernedly remove the least necessary items, pay for what it can, and go about its business. The one behind the self, observing, may feel compassion, may feel an insult because of standing next to a poverty-stricken person, may feel generosity, may feel indifference.

Do you now see the analogies in a more appropriate manner?

[Monica]

Response or no response. Both are valid.
...
Although, NOT even a guru can make that decision for another.
It is the orientation of the Self that will decide what is best suitable.

I think validity and appropriateness are 2 different things. All paths are valid. All choices are valid. But a choice that is appropriate for an entity wishing to polarize STS, might not be appropriate for an entity wishing to polarize STS.

[3DMonkey]

Response or no response. Both are valid.
...
Although, NOT even a guru can make that decision for another.
It is the orientation of the Self that will decide what is best suitable.

I think validity and appropriateness are 2 different things. All paths are valid. All choices are valid. But a choice that is appropriate for an entity wishing to polarize STS, might not be appropriate for an entity wishing to polarize STS.

The orientation of the entity will decide what is appropriate.

Seeing all things as love initiates no response to observation. When we see all things as love, even what we would deem horrific now, we have reached a new level, a positive level. A level where "we don't need that."

[Monica]

Seeing all things as love initiates no response to observation. When we see all things as love, even what we would deem horrific now, we have reached a new level, a positive level. A level where "we don't need that."

We've already covered this ground, and I see no point in covering it again. I respectfully but emphatically disagree with your 'non-action' views.

Thanks for sharing but I hope you understand if I decline further comment.

[3DMonkey]

It's Ra's, not mine.

[Monica]

It's Ra's, not mine.

No, none of us can say that a view is Ra's. All of us can only interpret Ra's views, and we don't all agree on that interpretation. I could just as easily say that my view "is Ra's" but it isn't. It's my interpretation of Ra's words, just as your view is your interpretation of Ra's words.

[vbaba]

In carrie's thread "Do you expect your country to continue to exist in 4D," unity100 vigorously suggested for us to look at human socialism as a model for the spiritual harmony, cooperation, and shared rules we can expect in 4D+. Others including myself just as vigorously suggested that different interpretations of politics and private property may be more appropriate.

I started this thread so we can split off that discussion, which has a lot of deep possibilities but isn't much related to carrie's original question.

This one sees no private ownership of land, no Socialism, no politicians, and no Money System to enslave us on the new Fourth Density Earth. This one sees a general tendency towards many holding the distortion that earth and her inhabitants will get to keep the 3D materialistic manifestations and lifestyles, while consciousness automatically shifts to a higher frequency - the earth simply becomes Fourth Density, and the Harvest and Transition take place without any inconvenience to the earth or her inhabitants. That there is a general tendency for entities to not grasp the full impact of what an Age Change, a Root Race Change and a Density Change happening simultaneously to a planet really means.

3rd Density has perverted earth's resources, raped her forests, polluted her waters and systematically destroyed the surface of this innocent planet. There is no way to fix what has been done. Karma is involved in the Transition. The planet is always cleansed after a Root Race Change, and there have been 5 in this 75,000 year cycle. The Atlantean Root Race was inundated 11,600 years ago. This Aryan Root Race will be no exception.

After a period of time, after the Transition, after the plants and animals return, the Harvestables are seen choosing to either return to the new Springtime Earth or to another 4th Density planet to begin their 30 million year adventure in Fourth Density.

On the new 4th Density Earth, telepathy is dominant. Cell Phones are not required! 4D MAN is fully aware of the thoughts and vibrations of his other selves. The physical body of 4D MAN is denser then men, yet much lighter in weight. Food is provided through manifested thought forms. This one sees the ways of the Red Race returning as a way of life for the beginnings of the Aquarian Root Race. Tribes will form but 4D MAN stands alone, independent to roam the planet and explore using Levitation, Teleportation, and Light, to create physical manifestations unknown to earthlings at this time. No creations will pray upon one another. Survival of the fittest will be a thing of the past. Competition will be no more. Love will replaced Fear and we will be able to trust one another again, which will take some getting used to.

Clinging to this 3rd Density physical illusion may provide a form of comfort and security for the moment, but stifles evolution. 3D Unharvestables will be shipped to another 3D planet to begin another 75,000 year 3D cycle in which to Harvest themselves out of 3rd Density. Only 4th Density MAN will be allowed upon the new 4th Density Earth. Why would we want it any other way?

[3DMonkey]

We won't have a choice in fourth density. Literally.