Do you think there will be some catastrophic events in 2012?

[hogey11]

And the thoughts that "the majority are ignorant followers lost in the dark" makes this a world of the very same. And so on, and so on.

Look at me. I see the world in a way that everything comes back onto itself and nothing escapes the full circle of itself. A world where you can't have one without the other, and again, and again. You can see it in me and how it surrounds my every interaction, no?

you've lost me, Monkey....

[3DMonkey]

myself too, apparently

Just saying, if our thoughts become things, then our thoughts about what is going on are becoming what is going on.

(I'm not crazy. This is playing as my 16 month old sleeps in my lap this very moment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAioeWL1xaU)

[zack231]

Ra was warning us about technology such as HAARP

How so?

Zen you seem to have a bet very hard time accepting that the government and miltary doesn't always have your best interest at hand... You seem to decline anything you are told about the government and military lying to you... Saying "so what they are" in on it" just makes me laugh that you can believe that no body can be lying to you or working in secret especially the military of all things... You want proof well I did provide a video link which interviews the son of the man who invented the technology saying that it was capable of weather alteration.. And the military who have now taken it over say oh no its just a research facility... Please wake up your government lies face it stop being so arrogant and blantently ignoring peoples answers because they don't "agree" with your distorted perception of government. I mean no disrespect bit you seem to ignore anything that seems like a conspiracy or that your government is lying to you, face it the the whole world is a conspiracy most leaders these days really only care about money and power.. I have given you multiple references to some pretty bad stuff the government is up to yet you turn a blind eye.. Stop being such a sour puss and face the facts.. For someone who follows the Law of One you seem to still be a fairly stubborn and narrow minded person when it comes to the government maybe this video will wake up pleaseexcuse the swearing but it has a very good message)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl2JQfxnnHU

And

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8

And

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3EpDV5zA-c

And just look for yourself take time to research and stop buying into the propganda of your goverenment..Or you will be left behind in this truth movement and the revolution

[Nyu]

I agree with Zack that Ra talked about HAARP when they mentioned weather being used as weaponry. Something that surprised me but was a bit of a lightbulb moment was when Ra talked about unmanned "UFO's" being used as weapons in this way (I can't be bothered finding the exact wording in the material, but it's definitely there. I remember because Don kept questioning it and his reaction to it was almost of disbelief). I only discovered the Ra material a few weeks ago but had read before that about UFO sightings happening around places of natural disasters including the Japanese quake, which I was curious about. So when I read that in the LOO it made sense suddenly that it is all very much connected. I don't believe ALL recent disasters are due to HAARP, but certainly there was some very interesting correlations between a few major quakes (especially the Japanese one), and the flooding and tornadoes of April/May, as well as our flooding that happened in Aus in January. If you look at the HAARP data for these dates it looks quite suspicious to me. Also I just saw an official announcement from scientists today that the ionosphere over Japan was significantly heated the day before and leading up to the quake (which correlates with the data on the HAARP site also). Of course they are calling it a "natural phenomenon" but anyone with half a brain can put two and two together.

Maybe there is nothing we can do about all of this stuff, as the forces that be will do to our planet, and to us, what they will, but I like being aware. That way at least we can be somewhat mentally prepared for the hard times that have already started and will get worse before they get better.

[unity100]

lawofone.info will allow you easy finding of anything you want.

[Raman]

I agree with Zack that Ra talked about HAARP when they mentioned weather being used as weaponry. Something that surprised me but was a bit of a lightbulb moment was when Ra talked about unmanned "UFO's" being used as weapons in this way (I can't be bothered finding the exact wording in the material, but it's definitely there. I remember because Don kept questioning it and his reaction to it was almost of disbelief). I only discovered the Ra material a few weeks ago but had read before that about UFO sightings happening around places of natural disasters including the Japanese quake, which I was curious about. So when I read that in the LOO it made sense suddenly that it is all very much connected. I don't believe ALL recent disasters are due to HAARP, but certainly there was some very interesting correlations between a few major quakes (especially the Japanese one), and the flooding and tornadoes of April/May, as well as our flooding that happened in Aus in January. If you look at the HAARP data for these dates it looks quite suspicious to me. Also I just saw an official announcement from scientists today that the ionosphere over Japan was significantly heated the day before and leading up to the quake (which correlates with the data on the HAARP site also). Of course they are calling it a "natural phenomenon" but anyone with half a brain can put two and two together.

Maybe there is nothing we can do about all of this stuff, as the forces that be will do to our planet, and to us, what they will, but I like being aware. That way at least we can be somewhat mentally prepared for the hard times that have already started and will get worse before they get better.

Hugo Chavez (Venezuelan president and also a military man himself --which probably means that he has good ties with Venezuelan/Cuban intelligence) stated that the Chilean and Haiti earthquakes were caused by HAARP. Also, a particular Northern California earthquake which did not cause any deaths at that time I believe.


Just a quick google search:...

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010...h-a-a-r-p/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QtZkT8OBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzOS9qSBQA

I have to confess that I was present in one of those 3 earthquakes discussed above and it was night time (dark) and I was facing a window and I saw the brightest flash of light in the sky (no storm present). Then moments later earthquake hit...

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PS I have been present in a few earthquakes and I never saw anything like it...

[vbaba]

I have to be honest when I first heard about 2012 I thought it was going to be the end of the world, with the mysterious Myan Calender and all these fear mongorous saying it was the end of the world, namely patrick Geryl who down right believes he doesnt say if he says when and even says that people should take cyanide pills on 21st of december of 2012 because it will be very very tramatic... He supposedly has proof about it.... lol.. Anyway I believe that perhaps was going to be the end of the world but then one day I stumbled upon David Wilcock and he made me realise it wasnt going to be the end and that these people were just fear mongorous, this eventually led to The Law of One the Ra material, which in a way I always felt I knew in some subliminal way and that there had to be much more.. I do not agree with David Wilcock that 2012 will be an instant DNA change I find that highly impossible and Ra stated that the transition would not be instant but a evolution that would eventually lead to a new form of body. What I do agree with David Wilcock is his belief that as we get closer to 2012 events will be more frequent and destructive, after all this is what Ra expalins will happen:

Questioner: Thank you. As we near the end of this master cycle there may be an increasing amount of catalyst for entities. I am wondering if, as the planetary vibrations mismatch somewhat with the fourth-density vibrations and catalyst is increased, if this will create more polarization thereby getting a slightly greater harvest?

Ra: I am Ra. The question must be answered in two parts. Firstly, the planetary catastrophes, as you may call them, are a symptom of the difficult harvest rather than a consciously programmed catalyst for harvest. Thus we do not concern ourselves with it, for it is random in respect to conscious catalyst such as we may make available.

The second portion is this: the results of the random catalyst of what you call the earth changes are also random. Thus we may see probability/possibility vortices going towards positive and negative. However, it will be as it will be. The true opportunities for conscious catalyst are not a function of the earth changes but of the result of the seniority system of incarnations which at the time of the harvest has placed in incarnation those whose chances of using life experiences to become harvestable are the best.

You only have to look at the last 10 years and the amount of catastrophes we have had, we have had more catastrophes in the past centurary then ever before, then to look at how many catastophes we have had this year, with even the Media and almost everyone realising that it is very strange. With the greatest floods in Australias history and then the worst hurricane, extreme weather in America, The new Zealand Earth quake, the Tsanami and earthquake in Japan, the worst tornadoes in Americas history, the earthquake in Rome, and many many other events that are clearly becoming more frequent. I think this quote from Hantonn somes it up pretty well:

"There is a season upon your planet which shall be highly traumatic
within your physical illusion. The physical reasons for this are varied.
Your scientists will spend a great deal of time, while they can, in
attempting to catalog and describe each of the conditions which will
produce disaster on this physical plane of your planet. That which your scientists speak of is quite so, and will be part of the program which has been predicted by all of those holy works which you have upon the face of the Earth.
It is not either permissible or possible for us to tell you precisely what
events will occur, or when they will occur, due to the fact that the
vibration within the mind and heart of the peoples upon your planet is
determining and will determine the precise events. There is within the
planet Earth a great deal of karma which must be adjusted as the cycle changes, and these things will manifest. Precisely when, and how, we cannot say, nor would we wish to, my friends. For the rain, and the wind, and fire, will destroy only those things which are in what you call the third density of vibration. You may value those things because you cannot imagine what a fourth-density existence will be like. We suggest to you that you spend no time concerning yourselves with the effort of maintaining your third density existence after the vibration change to fourth density has been completed.
If, within your spirit, your graduation day has come, those things
necessary for your emergence into fourth density will be done for you. All will be accomplished by helpers which you must be aware that you have. It is extremely possible that damage will occur to those things which you identify with yourself in the third density. If we may speak plainly, you will observe the valley of the shadow of death. These very words,my friends, have been spoken to you before, and yet you cling to that physical body and those physical surroundings as though your spirit were attached quite permanently to them.

May we suggest to you that you can find your spirit neither in your
head, nor in your hands, nor in your chest, nor in your legs, nor in your feet, that nowhere can you find your spirit; nowhere can you operate to remove it, nor to aid it. Your spirit resides within a shell. The shell may be removed, but that is no matter. The spirit does not perish."

So do you you believe thier will be some great catastophes in 2012 mainly in 21st of december. I personally believe there will be alot of of caterstrophic events and perhaps a big one on 21st of december but I do not believe for one second that it will be the end of the world and that everyone will die. Anyway thats my take would like to hear others persepctive.