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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Purpose of Polarity

    Thread: Purpose of Polarity


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    05-03-2011, 12:25 AM
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    05-03-2011, 12:35 AM
    (05-03-2011, 12:25 AM)Azrael Wrote:
    Quote:The purpose of polarity is to develop the potential to do work. This is the great characteristic of those, shall we say, experiments which have evolved since the concept of The Choice was appreciated. Work is done far more efficiently and with greater purity, intensity, and variety by the voluntary searching of mind/body/spirit complexes for the lessons of third and fourth densities. The action of fifth density is viewed in space/time the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action.

    Session 78

    What do you think is meant by "work"? It seems like it can have many connotations. I know work as that which energy enables, so naturally developing potential to do work means gathering energy together to gain intensity and focus. Thoughts?

    Also, I like this little bit:

    "You may see the air and fire of that which is chaos as literally illuminating and forming the formless, for earth and water were, in the timeless state, unformed. As the active principles of fire and air blow and burn incandescently about that which nurtures that which is to come, the water learns to become sea, lake, and river offering the opportunity for viable life. The earth learns to be shaped, thus offering the opportunity for viable life."

    No idea what the answers are, but the questions are indeed very good.

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    05-03-2011, 01:53 PM
    "The action of fifth density is viewed in space/time the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action."
    What do they mean by that ?
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    05-03-2011, 02:16 PM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2011, 02:33 PM by Aaron.)
    (05-03-2011, 01:53 PM)drifting pages Wrote: "The action of fifth density is viewed in space/time the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action."
    What do they mean by that ?

    I believe that means that to a space/time observer like us, a 5th density entity of either polarity taking action to learn/teach would simply look like it sitting/standing/floating there in a state of meditation, because in 5th density, nearly all action is done within, and the objective is to learn wisdom, not to polarize.

    But I can't really interpret the second sentence... I'm not sure what the voluntary nature is or means.
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    05-03-2011, 02:31 PM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2011, 02:33 PM by drifting pages.)
    Where do you read more is given to STO ?

    The voluntary part is valid for either polarity. in the sense both are freely chosen.

    Unless you gather this from some other quote ?
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    05-03-2011, 02:47 PM
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    05-03-2011, 02:54 PM
    blue ray and 5th density are quite free densities. and their main focus is expression of self and learning of how the 'dance' (of existence, including everything) works.

    so they are same when you look from space/time.
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    05-03-2011, 03:14 PM
    (05-03-2011, 02:54 PM)unity100 Wrote: blue ray and 5th density are quite free densities. and their main focus is expression of self and learning of how the 'dance' (of existence, including everything) works.

    so they are same when you look from space/time.

    5th Density Negative is a place of empty solitude. Sounds nice. I think I'd like to make it to 5D positive and then flip.
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    05-03-2011, 03:57 PM
    We seek within.
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    05-03-2011, 04:49 PM
    Important?
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    05-03-2011, 04:54 PM
    Well if it has to be done, it must be important, no?
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    05-03-2011, 05:31 PM
    I think when you put it the way you did, it isn't important at all. It just "is."
    We are like the oxygen you just inhaled, useful for life. Of course, if you personally want to live, that oxygen becomes important.
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    05-03-2011, 06:38 PM (This post was last modified: 05-03-2011, 07:11 PM by drifting pages.)
    Ra mentioned not many orion entities are 5 th density or 6 th density because in 5 th density negative you don't need other then self anymore you can be just the self for the "perceived self" separate from everything else.

    When they talk about 5 th density entities controlling all other selfs they mentioned it to be early 5 D negative.

    Am i wrong in saying this ? That is how i understood after reading all the passages relating to 5D.

    I noticed that Don focused a great deal asking about orion social memory complexes and distortions they have. Most of orion is 4 D negative with a few 5D negative.

    I really wish he asked a bit more about mid to late 5D negative in general.

    As i understand they are able to simply be as they wish in negative sense with less and less need from others, other then the data to advance further in the path of "absolute" power and wisdom.

    I prefer 5 D positive because honestly we can share love and joy around in all our reflections ! Such fun !
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    05-03-2011, 07:04 PM
    Depends what kind of life you mean, I don't believe death is the end of life.
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    05-03-2011, 09:45 PM
    (05-03-2011, 07:04 PM)Azrael Wrote: Depends what kind of life you mean, I don't believe death is the end of life.

    yeah yeah yeah. It's an analogy Tongue

    "abstract", as turtledude23 has shown me that I am
    Quote:87.7 Questioner: What is the environmental situation of this particular fifth-density entity, and how does he work with fourth-density negative entities in order to establish power and control; what is his particular philosophy with respect to himself as Creator and with respect to the use of the first distortion and the extension of the first distortion to the fourth-density negative? I hope that this isn’t too complex a question.
    Ra: I am Ra. The environment of your companion is that of the rock, the cave, the place of barrenness, for this is the density of wisdom and that which is needed may be thought and received. To this entity very little is necessary upon the physical, if you will, or space/time complex of distortions.

    Such an entity spends its consciousness within the realms of time/space in an attempt to learn the ways of wisdom through the utmost use of the powers and resources of the self. Since the self is the Creator, the wisdom density provides many informative and fascinating experiences for the negatively polarized entity. In some respects one may see a more lucid early attachment to wisdom from those of negative polarity as the nexus of positions of consciousness upon which wisdom is laid is simpler.

    The relationship of such an entity to fourth-density negative entities is one of the more powerful and the less powerful. The negative path posits slavery of the less powerful as a means of learning the desire to serve the self to the extent that the will is brought to bear. It is in this way that polarity is increased in the negative sense. Thus fourth-density entities are willing slaves of such a fifth-density entity, there being no doubt whatsoever of the relative power of each.

    I used to have a hunch that the "frog man" I visited was enjoying this place of complete barrenness. I dunno.

    Maybe he lives vicariously through me and you are all his created illusions :exclamation:Tongue
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    Of course, I suppose importance is really just a subjective idea, do we agree with what is important to our logos?
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    05-12-2011, 03:02 AM
    (05-03-2011, 12:25 AM)Azrael Wrote: What do you think is meant by "work"? It seems like it can have many connotations. I know work as that which energy enables, so naturally developing potential to do work means gathering energy together to gain intensity and focus. Thoughts?

    the concept "work" was introduced in session 20

    Quote:20.9 Questioner: Yesterday we were talking about the split that occurs when an entity either consciously or unconsciously chooses the path that leads to either service to others or service to self. The philosophical question of why such a split even exists came up. It was my impression that just as it is in electricity, if we have no polarity in electricity we have no electricity; we have no action. Therefore, I am assuming that it is the same in consciousness. If we have no polarity in consciousness we also have no action or experience. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. You may use the general term “work.”

    20.10 Questioner: Then the concept of service to self and service to others is mandatory if we wish to have work, whether it be work in consciousness or work of a mechanical nature in the Newtonian concept in the physical. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct with one addendum. The coil, as you may understand this term, is wound, is potential, is ready. The thing that is missing without polarizing is the charge.

    20.11 Questioner: Then the charge is provided by individualized consciousness. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. The charge is provided by the individualized entity using the in-pourings and in-streamings of energy by the choices of free will.
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    05-12-2011, 10:45 AM
    So spero's post 18, the last line, answers the question posed by Azrael starting this thread. 18 posts aren't bad for this crowd. WinkBlushTongue
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    05-12-2011, 11:11 AM
    (05-03-2011, 01:53 PM)drifting pages Wrote: "The action of fifth density is viewed in space/time the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action."
    What do they mean by that ?

    I think the following exchange answers your query to a large extent, dp --

    Quote:48.5 Questioner: Thank you. That clears up that point very well. Can you tell me how positive and negative polarizations in fourth and fifth density are used to cause working in consciousness?

    Ra: I am Ra. There is very little work in consciousness in fourth and in fifth densities compared to the work done in third density. The work that is accomplished in positive fourth is that work whereby the positive social memory complex, having, through slow stages, harmoniously integrated itself, goes forth to aid those of less positive orientation which seek their aid. Thus their service is their work and through this dynamic between the societal self and the other-self, which is the object of love, greater and greater intensities of understanding or compassion are attained. This intensity continues until the appropriate intensity of the light may be welcomed. This is fourth-density harvest.

    Within fourth-density positive there are minor amounts of catalyst of a spiritual and mental complex distortion. This occurs during the process of harmonizing to the extent of forming the social memory complex. This causes some small catalyst and work to occur, but the great work of fourth density lies in the contact betwixt the societal self and less polarized other-self.

    In fourth-density negative much work is accomplished during the fighting for position which precedes the period of the social memory complex. There are opportunities to polarize negatively by control of other-selves. During the social memory complex period of fourth-density negative the situation is the same. The work takes place through the societal reaching out to less polarized otherself in order to aid in negative polarization.

    In fifth-density positive and negative the concept of work done through a potential difference is not particularly helpful as fifth-density entities are, again, intensifying rather than potentiating.

    In positive, the fifth-density complex uses sixth-density teach/learners to study the more illuminated understandings of unity thus becoming more and more wise. Fifth-density positive social memory complexes will choose to divide their service to others in two ways: first, the beaming of light to creation; second, the sending of groups to be of aid as instruments of light such as those whom you are familiar with through channels.

    In fifth-density negative, service to self has become extremely intense and the self has shrunk or compacted so that the dialogues with the teach/learners are used exclusively in order to intensify wisdom. There are very, very few fifth-density negative Wanderers for they fear the forgetting. There are very, very few fifth-density Orion members for they do not any longer perceive any virtue in other-selves.

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    05-12-2011, 11:36 AM
    Intensify: make denser in order to produce stronger contrast between light and dark.

    I note this because it makes the further reading pop. The wisdom of fifth is a very dense knowing- wisdom.

    Potentiate: one thing working with another thing to produce an increased effect.
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    06-05-2011, 12:40 AM
    (05-03-2011, 12:25 AM)Azrael Wrote:
    Quote:The purpose of polarity is to develop the potential to do work. This is the great characteristic of those, shall we say, experiments which have evolved since the concept of The Choice was appreciated. Work is done far more efficiently and with greater purity, intensity, and variety by the voluntary searching of mind/body/spirit complexes for the lessons of third and fourth densities. The action of fifth density is viewed in space/time the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action.

    Session 78

    What do you think is meant by "work"? It seems like it can have many connotations. I know work as that which energy enables, so naturally developing potential to do work means gathering energy together to gain intensity and focus. Thoughts?

    Also, I like this little bit:

    "You may see the air and fire of that which is chaos as literally illuminating and forming the formless, for earth and water were, in the timeless state, unformed. As the active principles of fire and air blow and burn incandescently about that which nurtures that which is to come, the water learns to become sea, lake, and river offering the opportunity for viable life. The earth learns to be shaped, thus offering the opportunity for viable life."

    This one sees the purpose of polarity in 3rd Density as the Soul's chosen Destiny - when the Soul/Spirit Complex decides if it will be polarized Positive, Service to Others, or Negative, Service to Self. The Personality is sent by its soul to experience experience, and the potential for work is found in a variety of personalities, regardless of the Polarity which it is experiencing and expressing during an incarnation. Work is energy applied to achieve a result. Desire is that which motives energy.

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