Plants

[Sirius]

I was going to mention the mana, i didn't incase i was off the mark.

I came to understand them as monatomic elements. I have some right here actually...Some seabed mineral, Etherium Gold™ It's not the same as White powder gold or anything as biblicly extreme but it follows the same principle.

I've done my own research about it a while ago, and i used to take a little daily but i stopped, don't know why. but i did see the minor improvment it brought me.

I have given it a TINY sprinke around the base, i guess i was right to do so

At the rate I'm watching this plant grow, it must be getting fed alot haha

It's grown about an inch today, totally unbelievable haha

I put a clear quart opposite the green aventurine in the pot, im not any feng shui expext, but i felt this was the best place ment for the 2 gems.

Love and Light,

[Sirius]

After watching what the bleep do we know, I was gently reminded about how we can change water.

Putting the labe of love onto a bottle filled with water would change the water a bit, so it looks snowflakey.

I've got 4 bottles right now, Abundance, Health, Love and Big leaves

Has anybody else run into this water business? I only know the absolute basics about it and would love to know more about it!

The way I figure is not every single message on a bottle will work, ie, Big leaves or Lots of leaves does not have a certain 'snowflake' to it's design. Maybe however the universe knows what we are stabbing at and will match it to it's closest meaning snowflake?

Hopefully I have not confused you all!

[pluralone]

Not a bit confused, Sirius --

This has been my personal practice for many years now, 'charging' my water so it will do the most possible good for my body, for my plants, for my animal companions. I keep a filter pitcher on the counter (I don't like really cold water). Several years ago I started putting healing stones in the bottom of the pitcher - usually three stones, which I change periodically according to what my intuition tells me would be most beneficial - and I noticed the pitcher no longer gets slimy like it did after a few days without the stones. (I do still clean it regularly, though!) I also put healing stones that are more specific to my personal needs in the water bottle I carry.

Lastly, I place an additional 'charge' in my water by blessing it (a personal process). When I use disposable bottles, if there's a pen handy, I'll draw healing symbols on the outside. I don't do this with my day-to-day bottle because the ink won't stick to it.

I have no idea how this might manifest under a microscope, nor could I say I've felt a noticeable difference in how blessed/charged water affects my body, but I can say my body more readily informs me when I neglect to drink enough water in any given day -- and I believe this is a direct result, at a minimum, of the mindfulness with which I approach water consumption; I also believe the stones provide extra benefit but this belief is based on intuitive/energetic information rather than physical changes.

Looking forward to hearing others' thoughts on this!
plur

[Sirius]

Hers some pics for you

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&...a=N&tab=wi

Masuru Emoto is the man who discovered this, or at least published a book about it.

Time to get my research goggles on haha.

I have on and off for the last few years 'charged' water before I drink it, i did this by picturing water in my cupped hands as pure white, or blue sometimes, but I always felt that the action of drinking from my cupped hands had a part in it. Probably helped the energy transferance I guessed. apart from this I have no experience ^^

I shyed away from putting 'Perfect' onto a bottle though as so far as I understand perfection is not of this planet and therefore wouldent know what to expect for giving it too the plant.

Love and Light

[pluralone]

I think it depends on how one defines perfection, Sirius.

My intent is generally "balance". That seems to work pretty well for me, and it's a general enough intent that I think it's safe to apply to energetic support for others as well.

I've seen Emoto's water images, but thanks for the link - it's a pleasure to review them!

Keep us posted as you explore..?
plur

[Sirius]

My hands stink of copper now hahaha silly 2p's. I'll try it again later, what I thought I felt was the flat coins being 'cold' and the charged one being warm. Something as simple as this could cetainly catch the attention of a "non-beleiver" to word it bluntly hehe

I guess balance would be a type of perfection. What you said actually had me thinking. I think it was just ACIM and it's definition of perfection I was using, without really thinking about it.

I've just made a label 'Balance' ^_^

Unfortunately for her, my girlfriend suffers a lot of headaches, not too sure why, but she has taken a liking to the 'Health' water, she said it actually helps her headaches go away in a matter of minutes. I know some of you would think dehydration, as I would and do tell her sometimes, but she only takes a minor sip from the bottle so if it is dehydration she isn't drinking enough of it to fix it. I guess it works well as it is putting both hers and my intents together, for her health.

It is fairly funny as I was saying to Leigh yesterday, making magic potions is actually prety easy, all you have to do is make the bottle

The power of intent is truely underestimated, as intent does dictate the vast majority/all of what we do! It only makes sence that intent would serve the same purposes when you start using non-mainstream ideas such as these. Most of my energy work when I do it, is through the power of intent, I don't know brilliant ammounts about the energetic body so it is intent that I have to fall back on.

As for the plant, it is suffereing a little, the ends of the leaves are dying, but I think this is just me overwatering! Saying that, the damage to the leaves is spreading incredably slowly, I guess this would be some effect from the water(s) I have been giving it.

Love and Light everybody, and my plant!
Time to get rid of this copper smell

[Sirius]

I do understand what you mean about some 'healers' thinking it is the courses they take that give them thier power. Unfortunately from my experience people who have qualifications in healing have a tendancy to look down thier noses at 'unqualified' people.

Personally I find strict processes to be limiting, if you experement with your own ideas, you are much less likey to let something you learn stop you from learning more things. ie a qualified reiki healer would stick to what they where taught. This is generally speaking of course from my expereince of having met healers. When somebody calls themself a grand master I find it almost a joke.

This isn't directed at you or any other healers here, i think i've just been unfortunate to find some very close minded people.

Thank you for the offer, I will see what Leigh says. I think it could be useful becuase as you say scrubbing eachothers backs, she gets headaches and I get constant backache. So it would deffinately serve a purpose :p

[fairyfarmgirl]

I am a self taught herbalist and shaman. It is best done this way--- we are all gifted with gifts. Use your gifts to find your own answers.

fairyfarmgirl

[pluralone]

Sorry for keeping the thread off-topic, but I prefer to respond here briefly than to open a new thread.

a qualified reiki healer would stick to what they where taught

Not necessarily. My Reiki training was extensive, and I teach Reiki now. There are HUGE differences between what my teacher taught and what I teach (beyond the bare basics); additionally, the energetic healing work I personally do has not been "Reiki" for a long time, and I let my students know this, because my goal as a teacher is to help them find their own ways of working with healing energy. I would say qualified Reiki healers are more apt to have adapted what was learned in training, making the practice their own, and if they teach, I would say qualified Reiki masters are the ones who will encourage this in their students.

Unfortunately, unqualified Reiki "masters" are more abundant than those who are truly qualified. (imo)

An aside: I would not presume to judge the qualifications of a teacher solely on the basis of whether they charge for their services or not.

I am a self taught herbalist and shaman. It is best done this way--- we are all gifted with gifts. Use your gifts to find your own answers.

This was the best path for you, fairyfarmgirl, but I value my training. It led me to a place in myself where I could find my own answers. Not everyone is born with awareness of their gifts. Some people are bound to do better with some sort of support, if not direct training.

My training as an herbalist, however, was completely unstructured. My apprenticeship involved learning things on my own, with the benefit of having a knowledgeable master herbalist at hand to support my learning when I needed help (which was rare). I could have trained as an herbalist entirely on my own, but - again - I value the access I had to the knowledge and support of a master herbalist. It enhanced the experience for me.

As for shamanism, I completely agree; it's a personal process of spiritual awakening that can't really be "taught". Still, if one feel the need for support in the process..? Why not? I don't think there truly is a "right" or "wrong" way to walk one's spiritual path.
plur

[Monica]

I find the best teachers are those who let go of what they've learned in order to move beyond set systems and into new levels of experience and understanding.

My husband teaches Chinese Kung Fu, and told me of an ancient adage: "Enter by form, exit by form" which means that the Kung Fu student must first learn the structure of the art and execute the movements impeccably, but ultimately will transcend that structure and make the art his own. Only then could he be considered a Kung Fu master.

The twist would be that some of us might remember having learned the structure in past lives, or might even be gifted in learning an art or skill in some other way. Surely, as we approach 4D, we will begin learning by osmosis, psychic transference, etc. The rules are changing (or maybe disappearing)!

There are always purist in ever tradition, whether it's martial arts, homeopathy, herbalism, Reiki, whatever; who say that it must be done a certain way only and never deviate from the established protocol. But the art/science/technique only grows because of the innovators who are unwilling to limit themselves to the knowledge of those who came before them.

[fairyfarmgirl]

I find the best teachers are those who let go of what they've learned in order to move beyond set systems and into new levels of experience and understanding.

My husband teaches Chinese Kung Fu, and told me of an ancient adage: "Enter by form, exit by form" which means that the Kung Fu student must first learn the structure of the art and execute the movements impeccably, but ultimately will transcend that structure and make the art his own. Only then could he be considered a Kung Fu master.

The twist would be that some of us might remember having learned the structure in past lives, or might even be gifted in learning an art or skill in some other way. Surely, as we approach 4D, we will begin learning by osmosis, psychic transference, etc. The rules are changing (or maybe disappearing)!

Agreed! Agreed heartily!

fairyfarmgirl

There are always purist in ever tradition, whether it's martial arts, homeopathy, herbalism, Reiki, whatever; who say that it must be done a certain way only and never deviate from the established protocol. But the art/science/technique only grows because of the innovators who are unwilling to limit themselves to the knowledge of those who came before them.
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[sylverone]

Concerning the original discussion, thank you to everyone! I have been thinking and wondering about the spiritual existence of plants and animals for a while, and this thread has helped my perspective on both.

I was half-thinking along these lines recently when I saw a little bonzai-type tree/plant in a store. My mom bought it. It's cute!

It is a small tree, with bark, maybe 7 inches tall, with 2 inch almond-shaped leaves.

The talk about plant souls made me thing about cross-species splicing. I believe a pear tree branch can be spliced into some types of apple trees and vice versa; withe the concept of a plant as a group identity this leads to interesting thoughts for me.

Thank you