The Law of Attraction

[turtledude23]

Did Ra or Q'uo ever say anything that would support or negate the law of attraction? And how does it work? Is it from our spirit or our uncosncious mind?

[Namaste]

Not that I recall.

In my understanding, the LOA is simply an energetic property of the Universe/Cosmos/Source. Our thoughts, words and deeds can be considered as expressions of particular vibrations of energy. These vibrations determine the level of energy which is drawn to us.

From another perspective (Bashar), your current level of energy determines which of the infinite parallel Universes you exist in at any one moment. I.e. there is always a Universe where you attract love, health and fortune, and another which is always experiencing fear and dis-ease (and the infinite variations in between). Your vibration seamlessly shifts you between these realities.

[Ankh]

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?sea...&ss=1&sc=1

The south or negative pole is one which attracts. It pulls unto itself those things magnetized to it. So with the mind/body/spirit complex.

[3DMonkey]

Thank you, Namaste. You reassure me that some people do get it.

I consider the LOA a failure. Many equate it to "if I think really hard that I'll win the lottery then I will". Blah! I know someone who even uses this thinking to make certain plays happens while watching a football game.... Then blame me for not believing enough. LOA= parlor trick.

It's not 'think hard and recieve'. Many people don't recognize their own thoughts, let alone how those thoughts connect to hidden desires.

[transiten]

Thank you, Namaste. You reassure me that some people do get it.

I consider the LOA a failure. Many equate it to "if I think really hard that I'll win the lottery then I will". Blah! I know someone who even uses this thinking to make certain plays happens while watching a football game.... Then blame me for not believing enough. LOA= parlor trick.

It's not 'think hard and recieve'. Many people don't recognize their own thoughts, let alone how those thoughts connect to hidden desires.

LOA is STS in disguise. Read David Wicocks blog "The Deeper Secret", spot on.

[Meerie]

Could you link it, Transiten? I checked Davids blog but could not find it....
Thanks!
Edit: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-...q-part-iii
Is that what you meant? could not find pt 1 and 2, though...
(merc. still retrograde "rolleyes")

[Ankh]

Now I am not sure what attraction you guys are talking about, or if I am following the conversation. One cannot actually not to attract, as one cannot to not serve the Creator.

[Meerie]

Turtle are you referring to the Law of Attraction, as mentioned by Esther and Abraham Hicks?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction
It is about manifesting more money in your life or the perfect mate or whatever... I guess that is why Transiten referred to it as being STS.
There is a thread about Hicks on the "other channeled resources subforum".

[transiten]

Meerie!

The articles are on page 138, 139 and 140 in Davids Blog.

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[native]

Well, the current new age definition of attraction is hokey and a marketable term that needs to be thrown out.

I would say yes, but the definition of attraction itself has to be re-worded. It's about movement. The whole formation of densities revolve around the upward spiraling of light. There is a calling of our spirit complex upwards, and when we vibrate more congruently with higher density thoughts, this pulls ones-self upwards through the light. When one vibrates with love, or in service to others, a more distilled loving reality presents itself. It's not so much that you are attracting anything so to speak, but you are becoming a being that radiates love more and more, being open to feel the love/light in each moment. You are transforming and creating harmony within and around you.

In this way, you are moving towards a distortion of experience that is wholly a function of the will. So it is up to the entity to vibrate in service and in harmony with the One Creator. The path then, is service to others. To be love/light and embody it. Then of course there is the negative path, which is literally an absorbent one that eventually leads to the same destination.

Below we are able to see how the will is important in this process.

28.13 Questioner: Is there any reason for some portions being much more efficient in learning?

Ra: I am Ra. Is there any reason for some to learn more quickly than others? Look, if you wish, to the function of the will … the, shall we say, attraction to the upward spiraling line of light.

We seek love/light. This is truly the heart of the matter.

[Namaste]

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The south or negative pole is one which attracts. It pulls unto itself those things magnetized to it. So with the mind/body/spirit complex.

Great find - thanks.

Thank you, Namaste. You reassure me that some people do get it.

I consider the LOA a failure. Many equate it to "if I think really hard that I'll win the lottery then I will". Blah! I know someone who even uses this thinking to make certain plays happens while watching a football game.... Then blame me for not believing enough. LOA= parlor trick.

It's not 'think hard and recieve'. Many people don't recognize their own thoughts, let alone how those thoughts connect to hidden desires.

Indeed, it's always whirring away, it's a core aspect of the Universe. Most are offering unconscious intentions, which is one of the reasons life can suddenly throw up unexpected set-backs.

LOA is STS in disguise. Read David Wicocks blog "The Deeper Secret", spot on.

I disagree with that notion; the Law of Attraction is as fundamental as The Law of One. It's physics. It's always working with you, regardless of whether you are doing it reactively or proactively.

The key is how people choose to use it. Consciously or unconsciously? For the benefit of themselves, or others?

Try not to tarnish an entire stream of thought/modality purely because some choose to use it in ways that disagree with you. Think of it like The Force (Star Wars), do you use it for dark, or for light? :¬)

I've used it very much with regard to offering a service to others which gives all parties an opportunity to share positive emotion/love. So far it's been incredible. Whenever you meditate and visualise peace, love and harmony in the world, what do you think is happening? You're using TLOA to manifest your experience.

I encourage others to try it (properly), and make their own mind up based on experience, rather than the experience of others.

[Ankh]

The key is how people choose to use it. Consciously or unconsciously? For the benefit of themselves, or others?

I've used it very much with regard to offering a service to others which gives all parties an opportunity to share positive emotion/love. So far it's been incredible.

I encourage others to try it (properly) and make your own mind up :¬)

I guess that we are talking about that book then?

Please, brother, can you give some examples of how you used it in STO purposes? (You know, free will and all that )

[native]

I've used it very much with regard to offering a service to others which gives all parties an opportunity to share positive emotion/love. So far it's been incredible. Whenever you meditate and visualise peace, love and harmony in the world, what do you think is happening? You're using TLOA to manifest your experience.

Yes. What confuses people is the use of the word attraction.

From our frame of reference, it is a movement towards the Creator. From the Creator's reference, we are being attracted to love/light.

[Ocean]

i think LOA is a companion to LOO. i started with LOA and found it lacking, then David Wilcock and Ra helped me deepen that understanding. to me LOA is such that if people don't understand that it is a neutral teaching, they may fall into the trap that it's ok to just manifest loads of crap for yourself without regard for others, because Abraham never judges. Abraham tells you hot to make the universe work, not if you should. Abraham said the woman who made the secret was "in the vortex" meaning her not nice actions worked using LOA.

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Abraham says if you succeed, you are an example. as in a teacher. and of course you can do good when you're successful.

[3DMonkey]

Derek~ and Namaste are on the same track.
Here is how I will consciously choose to receive this thread:
the truths presented by Derek~ and Namaste represent the details of the Law of One.
The "Law of Attraction" is a brand name, marketable in the likes of infomercials. I will wipe away the modern fad sales under the heading of LOA. As far as I'm concerned, LOA is a trademark gimic.
The truth of vibrations and reaching toward the creator taught in LOO are stronger and more reliable.

I do believe the marketed LOA is based on personal gain and egotism, me me me. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Ouch Ocean. Successful? A prerequisite for doing good? What is successful?

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Success is arguable. Service is our purpose. Failing at LOA serves the Creator equally as succeeding.

[native]

Ra speaking about kundalini furthers this..

..49.5 ......The most important concept to grasp about the energy field is that the lower or negative pole will draw the universal energy into itself from the cosmos. Therefrom it will move upward to be met and reacted to by the positive spiraling energy moving downward from within. The measure of an entity’s level of ray activity is the locus wherein the south pole outer energy has been met by the inner spiraling positive energy.

As an entity grows more polarized this locus will move upwards. This phenomenon has been called by your peoples the kundalini. However, it may better be thought of as the meeting place of cosmic and inner, shall we say, vibratory understanding. To attempt to raise the locus of this meeting without realizing the metaphysical principles of magnetism upon which this depends is to invite great imbalance.

So if you are not properly distilling what you seek, all kinds of imbalances show up. In essence, our actions are creating certain experiences.

We have two types of energy. We are attempting then, as entities in any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further and further along or upward along the energy centers. The two methods of approaching this with sensible method are first, the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth.

Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.

It's about moving towards love/light.

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3DM - Basically! The law of attraction brings with it certain connotations that confuse the issue.

[Ocean]

succeeding as in receiving so you can give. i think you're looking at it through your own filter, Monkey. all the wisdom teachings say that we must be at balance. to give we must be able to receive. how can i help others if i myself am lacking? how can i teach if i suck at learning?

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also, don't forget you are one of those others.

[Ankh]

LOA is STS in disguise.

Now I remember it! Don't know if you participated in these discussions though:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/topic.php?uid...&topic=387

[native]

succeeding as in receiving so you can give. i think you're looking at it through your own filter, Monkey. all the wisdom teachings say that we must be at balance. to give we must be able to receive. how can i help others if i myself am lacking? how can i teach if i suck at learning?

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also, don't forget you are one of those others.

In 4d we give so much of ourselves that we neglect the self. In 5d we refine this with wisdom.

So yes, it is about balance. Which is not to be confused with "What can I do to profit in a situation?" Rather it's "What can I do to help others without totally draining myself?"

[3DMonkey]

succeeding as in receiving so you can give. i think you're looking at it through your own filter, Monkey. all the wisdom teachings say that we must be at balance. to give we must be able to receive. how can i help others if i myself am lacking? how can i teach if i suck at learning?

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also, don't forget you are one of those others.

That's what learn/teaching is for. It isn't necessary to be teach/learning.

My lack is an extremely viable option for service. My learning is an extremely viable option for teaching.

Literally, yesterday I was looking for an opportunity to post that I am an excellent learn/teacher and a very mediocre teach/learner.

(LOL, ironic that I just wrote that while bashing LOA? Lol!)

[Ocean]

i think happiness serves the creator. i think everyone deserves to be happy.

[transiten]

I disagree with that notion; the Law of Attraction is as fundamental as The Law of One. It's physics. It's always working with you, regardless of whether you are doing it reactively or proactively.

The key is how people choose to use it. Consciously or unconsciously? For the benefit of themselves, or others?

Namaste

Well I actually meant the message about "The Law of Attraction" as presented in "The Secret".....of course ít's just physics, i agree 100% upon what you said there...

..mercury retrograde again...misunderstandings, missing information, doing things over and over...

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[marielle]

The Law of Attraction or creative visualization works well for me. I've used it for years, although I found it's best to keep my requests simple-health, happiness, and enough money. It's funny but when I really internalized the notion that I could manifest anything, then I didn't want anything. I started feeling really empty and then last year, I looked up at the sky and I asked the Universe to help me remember who I am and to help me remember what this universe is all about. A few weeks later, I found the Ra Material.

Another useful way to use it is when something has you down or depressed. When I'm depressed, my vibration suffers so I ask the universe to help me.

[Ocean]

that's funny, when i tried to manifest a bunch of stuff i found myself oddly meh about it. which is silly cuz i would love a house in Hawaii etc but i started thinking there was something wrong with me i didn't want to be a millionaire badly enough. that's when i found David Wilcock.

[Namaste]

The key is how people choose to use it. Consciously or unconsciously? For the benefit of themselves, or others?

I've used it very much with regard to offering a service to others which gives all parties an opportunity to share positive emotion/love. So far it's been incredible.

I encourage others to try it (properly) and make your own mind up :¬)

I guess that we are talking about that book then?

Please, brother, can you give some examples of how you used it in STO purposes? (You know, free will and all that )

Of course :¬)

One aspect of my life is healing. A service offered from the heart, with nothing expected in return. I use positive intention/visualisation to meet people who will resonate energetically, of whom I can be of humble service to. In this meeting, I understand that I am purely a catalyst/opportunity (or Permission Slip, as Bashar quite aptly puts it) in which to offer the other self to heal themselves. Healing is all about stepping aside and offering unconditional love. The results have been incredible, and continue to surprise me.

My day-by-day profession is a wedding photographer. The core goal of this 'business' (feels more like an adventure to me!) is to provide the couple and family with a service and photographs that invoke love/joy/happiness within them. A means to help raise their vibration (and hence the planet). It's also an opportunity to offer love/acceptance/compassion to each and every person I meet during the day (and that's a lot, I like to mingle and joke with all the guests). I'll shoot for 14 hours straight with unbounded energy and joy as I'm completely tapped into Source. The drive home is tough though! I use positive intention/visualisation to meet with couples of which will find much love from my service. So far, the feedback has been better than I had dreamed. It's such a gift!

I use no intention for money or material gain. I trust that living by my personal truths with integrity, and acting upon the synchronicities offered by the intentions, the universe will support me to continue these roles. So far, that's exactly what's happened :¬)

Marielle - indeed, health and happiness is a fantastic thing to visualise. I do that often also, within the context of planetary peace/evolution :¬)

Edit: To add, people often get confused with TLOA and achieve only an increased dissatisfaction/impatience with their current circumstances. Be grateful for all the things you have. That alone will attract to you more things that make you feel grateful. And if serving others makes you feel grateful to be alive, then guess what - you'll get the opportunity :¬)

That's exactly why I call this life here, the gift of experience. It's a true gift to be here.

[3DMonkey]

I don't disagree with any view of LoA here. In a nutshell, you all seem to know what you are truly attracted to.

I call it infomercial material because most references I hear come from people wanting to be attracted to materialistic value. I guess I shouldn't be negative about that, because we would all agree it doesn't work that way.

I choose not to label it LoA. In my view, it's more about remember your true true nature in existence

[Ocean]

maybe that's what they should call it. that's much cooler.

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also it would attract those who are ready for it.

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but it might start with materialistic gain and then turn into seeking... maybe it is good as it is.

[transiten]

Goodmorning

My dog woke me up too early, i feel depressed and i don't see how TLOA as presented in "The Secret" would help me in any way. The message also was kidnapped and distorted from the original source, don't remember the name just now.

Once more, read David Wilcocks analysis of the TLOA presented in "The Secret" on page 138, 139, 140 in his blog.

Namaste, i like your take on it

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[Ocean]

Abraham is the original source.

thanks Transiten.

[transiten]

Namaste wrote:

One aspect of my life is healing. A service offered from the heart, with nothing expected in return. I use positive intention/visualisation to meet people who will resonate energetically, of whom I can be of humble service to. In this meeting, I understand that I am purely a catalyst/opportunity (or Permission Slip, as Bashar quite aptly puts it) in which to offer the other self to heal themselves. Healing is all about stepping aside and offering unconditional love. The results have been incredible, and continue to surprise me.

My day-by-day profession is a wedding photographer. The core goal of this 'business' (feels more like an adventure to me!) is to provide the couple and family with a service and photographs that invoke love/joy/happiness within them. A means to help raise their vibration (and hence the planet). It's also an opportunity to offer love/acceptance/compassion to each and every person I meet during the day (and that's a lot, I like to mingle and joke with all the guests). I'll shoot for 14 hours straight with unbounded energy and joy as I'm completely tapped into Source. The drive home is tough though! I use positive intention/visualisation to meet with couples of which will find much love from my service. So far, the feedback has been better than I had dreamed. It's such a gift!

I use no intention for money or material gain. I trust that living by my personal truths with integrity, and acting upon the synchronicities offered by the intentions, the universe will support me to continue these roles. So far, that's exactly what's happened :¬)

Edit: To add, people often get confused with TLOA and achieve only an increased dissatisfaction/impatience with their current circumstances. Be grateful for all the things you have. That alone will attract to you more things that make you feel grateful. And if serving others makes you feel grateful to be alive, then guess what - you'll get the opportunity :¬)

That's exactly why I call this life here, the gift of experience. It's a true gift to be here.
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Hello All!

I still don't master the quotation button, the white area with the bold text but here goes:

NAMASTE :idea: a wonderful Neptune in pisces post! Entered on april 4: Photographing as service and healing Watch the astrology thread for more

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