The debilitating effect of manipulation and black magic, and how to heal...

[aWanderer91]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, recieving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

[flofrog]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, recieving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

Thank you for this offer, aWanderer91, that is very generous and I feel you must have gathered a lot of courage to step out of such a grid.

I never had a psychic greeting in this incarnation ( perhaps I was too dense to feel it, lol)
Physically,  I just met a few rather somber entities and it was an interesting matter to do so.

[aWanderer91]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, recieving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

Thank you for this offer, aWanderer91, that is very generous and I feel you must have gathered a lot of courage to step out of such a grid.

I never had a psychic greeting in this incarnation ( perhaps I was too dense to feel it, lol)
Physically,  I just met a few rather somber entities and it was an interesting matter to do so.

You are welcome flofrog!

It did take a lot of courage, and an important point you mention that you was too dense to feel it...the effects of psychic manipulation can be unseen for a long time which is what I found. It was quite the shock when I finally woke up

I think it came down to what Ra mentioned when they say that a wanderer is less likely to notice the negative intentions of others compared to a native 3rd density being. I'm a lot wiser for it, I must say.

And hey, if you haven't up to now then I hope you never encounter such things <3

[IndigoSalvia]

I second flofrog, yours is a splendid offering. Thank you for opening up this discussion. 

I don't know if I've ever been psychically greeted by higher-density STS being(s). (To the extent that we are all One, certainly.) I have experienced ups and downs in this 3D physical world.

I got tangled up with STS beings for many years. It continues to be, in retrospect, a catalyst-rich experience as I sift through the memories that no doubt created blockages to be cleared. During all of this, though, I was heart-broken and utterly lost; I stumbled and fumbled my way in the darkness. I fell ... a lot.  

Afterward (and during), I had to recover, it felt like spiritual detoxing. Over the years, I found a wonderful group and we did shamanic journeys. I called upon my spirit guides for aid, especially creating light protection about me. I studied Buddhism. I carried protection stones with me. I saged when my spaces got heavy. 

Mind you, while I was discovering these aids, I had no plan, no idea what I was doing: I just reached out in the darkness again and again for help, not knowing what I was even looking for, and found these aids. All of it helped, but a lot of the time, I was lost and hurting. And, for me, that was the point: to continually be faced with a choice in the midst of darkness. 

Like our journeys and paths are totally unique, how we navigate through them, and the aids which we find/seek (resonate with) may also be as unique. 

With this difficult time in my rearview mirror, I read Ra and hold their advice (re encountering STS) close to my heart: send L&L, gratefully acknowledge the STS service, reject the service as not being useful to my journey at this time, and bid them well on their journeys. (Alas, I didn't have this knowledge during the challenging time, and so, the STS service was useful to me.)

[Fool]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, recieving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

I have had quite a past in falsity. I give a large amount of gratitude to the entities who never let me go. Who held on to me no matter how deep I descended. Who rather expertly stepped in when best. To talk of the tactics of sts in too much detail I feel is fruitless but I could be wrong. It’s like one of the great tricks. By convincing a STO entity to speak and believe it is serving others by teaching STS ideas. I think it may be helpful for an STO entity to gleam some general things from the STS path in order to avoid it. The devil is quite literally in the details.

To those who read my statement here always seek love. Always choose love, peace, and harmony. Even in the darkest of places, you can find your way out. Seek faith and you will have it, seek hope and you will have it, be charitable and it will be returned to you. In the darkness your light can be great! And delightfully annoying.

Doing all that is easier said than done. I will share a dream of mine that an STS entity gave me so that it could feed and also how I came away from it and foiled it. There was this maze it was a indoor basketball court that had a set of stairs in the middle of it that went down and came out of the sky of an old English town that descended into the crypts of the town with these three corny ass vampires that you passed by and they went “bleh” in a very unsurprising way haha. And that went down to another basketball court and this went on forever. Well I went on and on and eventually I saw three other coming back up and they said you need to turn around! This is the way. Up. So I turned around and nothing was happing and eventually I said no! I won’t have it! This is dumb! I command to be released! This black face with a voice like Voldemort in the first Harry Potter move when he was on the back of that dudes head said “DIE!!”. I woke up right after that with pins and needles all over me like I just got tased.

Moral of the story to those that find themselves in dark places, however you got there. If you seek unity and peace, say I’ve had enough! Say I don’t want this! Say I am the infinite creator!

I love you all! Good post wanderer.

[aWanderer91]

I second flofrog, yours is a splendid offering. Thank you for opening up this discussion. 

I don't know if I've ever been psychically greeted by higher-density STS being(s). (To the extent that we are all One, certainly.) I have experienced ups and downs in this 3D physical world.

I got tangled up with STS beings for many years. It continues to be, in retrospect, a catalyst-rich experience as I sift through the memories that no doubt created blockages to be cleared. During all of this, though, I was heart-broken and utterly lost; I stumbled and fumbled my way in the darkness. I fell ... a lot.  

Afterward (and during), I had to recover, it felt like spiritual detoxing. Over the years, I found a wonderful group and we did shamanic journeys. I called upon my spirit guides for aid, especially creating light protection about me. I studied Buddhism. I carried protection stones with me. I saged when my spaces got heavy. 

Mind you, while I was discovering these aids, I had no plan, no idea what I was doing: I just reached out in the darkness again and again for help, not knowing what I was even looking for, and found these aids. All of it helped, but a lot of the time, I was lost and hurting. And, for me, that was the point: to continually be faced with a choice in the midst of darkness. 

Like our journeys and paths are totally unique, how we navigate through them, and the aids which we find/seek (resonate with) may also be as unique. 

With this difficult time in my rearview mirror, I read Ra and hold their advice (re encountering STS) close to my heart: send L&L, gratefully acknowledge the STS service, reject the service as not being useful to my journey at this time, and bid them well on their journeys. (Alas, I didn't have this knowledge during the challenging time, and so, the STS service was useful to me.)

Thank you for sharing your story IndigoSalvia. I could relate quite a lot in terms of guessing my way threw it while operating in darkness. It's amazing how well we do when faced with no other choice but to find a way out, I think we both deserve a pat on the back for our guessing wisdom!

These times are useful in terms of us finding our real inner strength and using them to become wiser and more loving beings.

[Quincunx]

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[aWanderer91]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, recieving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

I have had quite a past in falsity. I give a large amount of gratitude to the entities who never let me go. Who held on to me no matter how deep I descended. Who rather expertly stepped in when best. To talk of the tactics of sts in too much detail I feel is fruitless but I could be wrong. It’s like one of the great tricks. By convincing a STO entity to speak and believe it is serving others by teaching STS ideas. I think it may be helpful for an STO entity to gleam some general things from the STS path in order to avoid it. The devil is quite literally in the details.

To those who read my statement here always seek love. Always choose love, peace, and harmony. Even in the darkest of places, you can find your way out. Seek faith and you will have it, seek hope and you will have it, be charitable and it will be returned to you. In the darkness your light can be great! And delightfully annoying.

Doing all that is easier said than done. I will share a dream of mine that an STS entity gave me so that it could feed and also how I came away from it and foiled it. There was this maze it was a indoor basketball court that had a set of stairs in the middle of it that went down and came out of the sky of an old English town that descended into the crypts of the town with these three corny ass vampires that you passed by and they went “bleh” in a very unsurprising way haha. And that went down to another basketball court and this went on forever. Well I went on and on and eventually I saw three other coming back up and they said you need to turn around! This is the way. Up. So I turned around and nothing was happing and eventually I said no! I won’t have it! This is dumb! I command to be released! This black face with a voice like Voldemort in the first Harry Potter move when he was on the back of that dudes head said “DIE!!”. I woke up right after that with pins and needles all over me like I just got tased.

Moral of the story to those that find themselves in dark places, however you got there. If you seek unity and peace, say I’ve had enough! Say I don’t want this! Say I am the infinite creator!

I love you all! Good post wanderer.

Hi Fool,


"Always choose love, peace and harmony", these are such appropriate words for someone dealing with any service to self entity, as the most likely act most humans would take is to panic and act in defence with fear or delusion. To seek love and unity during these times keeps the vibration high and our discernment as clear as possible.

Thank you for sharing the story of your dream too! I had a dream that was actually a rather lucid one during my recovery, I was still being attacked around this time. I found myself in a nightclub. There was other service to self beings in there and a woman I had been talking to pulled me into the center of the dancefloor when what I can only describe as three "men in black" appearing. I stepped back away from this woman as these men began tapping me all over my body, mainly at the sides and I could feel myself leaving my physical body (in bed) when something suddenly jolted me awake and I heard a voice over and over repeat "wake up, wake up, wake up". I felt so tired and rather than feeling drowsy, it was like I was under anesthetic. It was so hard to stay awake but this voice persisted. I believe this was a opportunity for the service to self beings to get me to leave my yellow ray physical body. I'm grateful for whatever woke me up

[Fool]

I will share a dream of mine that an STS entity gave me so that it could feed and also how I came away from it and foiled it. There was this maze it was a indoor basketball court that had a set of stairs in the middle of it that went down and came out of the sky of an old English town that descended into the crypts of the town with these three corny ass vampires that you passed by and they went “bleh” in a very unsurprising way haha. And that went down to another basketball court and this went on forever. Well I went on and on and eventually I saw three other coming back up and they said you need to turn around! This is the way. Up. So I turned around and nothing was happing and eventually I said no! I won’t have it! This is dumb! I command to be released! This black face with a voice like Voldemort in the first Harry Potter move when he was on the back of that dudes head said “DIE!!”. I woke up right after that with pins and needles all over me like I just got tased.

Read this https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...?tid=19599

And then reflect on that dream again. It's your choice to believe what ever you would like.

Very informative Quincunx! I had considered the possibility as it is my understanding that in 5th and 6th density the relationship between STS and STO is very close in a way. Every dark cloud has a silver lining type of thinking. Could the dream of been from a positive entity? Certainly I say! I know I have had other nightmares given to me by positive entities. Challenge the entity in a way like Carla did and the fruit it bears will be made clear to you. Thank you my friend!

[Fool]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, recieving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

I have had quite a past in falsity. I give a large amount of gratitude to the entities who never let me go. Who held on to me no matter how deep I descended. Who rather expertly stepped in when best. To talk of the tactics of sts in too much detail I feel is fruitless but I could be wrong. It’s like one of the great tricks. By convincing a STO entity to speak and believe it is serving others by teaching STS ideas. I think it may be helpful for an STO entity to gleam some general things from the STS path in order to avoid it. The devil is quite literally in the details.

To those who read my statement here always seek love. Always choose love, peace, and harmony. Even in the darkest of places, you can find your way out. Seek faith and you will have it, seek hope and you will have it, be charitable and it will be returned to you. In the darkness your light can be great! And delightfully annoying.

Doing all that is easier said than done. I will share a dream of mine that an STS entity gave me so that it could feed and also how I came away from it and foiled it. There was this maze it was a indoor basketball court that had a set of stairs in the middle of it that went down and came out of the sky of an old English town that descended into the crypts of the town with these three corny ass vampires that you passed by and they went “bleh” in a very unsurprising way haha. And that went down to another basketball court and this went on forever. Well I went on and on and eventually I saw three other coming back up and they said you need to turn around! This is the way. Up. So I turned around and nothing was happing and eventually I said no! I won’t have it! This is dumb! I command to be released! This black face with a voice like Voldemort in the first Harry Potter move when he was on the back of that dudes head said “DIE!!”. I woke up right after that with pins and needles all over me like I just got tased.

Moral of the story to those that find themselves in dark places, however you got there. If you seek unity and peace, say I’ve had enough! Say I don’t want this! Say I am the infinite creator!

I love you all! Good post wanderer.

Hi Fool,


"Always choose love, peace and harmony", these are such appropriate words for someone dealing with any service to self entity, as the most likely act most humans would take is to panic and act in defence with fear or delusion. To seek love and unity during these times keeps the vibration high and our discernment as clear as possible.

Thank you for sharing the story of your dream too! I had a dream that was actually a rather lucid one during my recovery, I was still being attacked around this time. I found myself in a nightclub. There was other service to self beings in there and a woman I had been talking to pulled me into the center of the dancefloor when what I can only describe as three "men in black" appearing. I stepped back away from this woman as these men began tapping me all over my body, mainly at the sides and I could feel myself leaving my physical body (in bed) when something suddenly jolted me awake and I heard a voice over and over repeat "wake up, wake up, wake up". I felt so tired and rather than feeling drowsy, it was like I was under anesthetic. It was so hard to stay awake but this voice persisted. I believe this was a opportunity for the service to self beings to get me to leave my yellow ray physical body. I'm grateful for whatever woke me up

Very intense! Ive had similar ones to that. I won’t go into them so as to not derail your post here!

[Quincunx]

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[Vestige]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, receiving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

Hello to you, aWanderer91, from close to one month into the future. 
Little more than one hour ago now, I experienced a psychic greeting!  I wanted to reflect, share, and anchor my experience with my (other!) friends, after my greeter friend had taken leave of me.  

Here is what I wrote immediately following the greeting, in one of my journals:

12:35pm – clear psychic greeting.  Sensation of presence – not quite a puff of air or noise or any particular sensation, except for the clear sensation of ‘violation,’ which produced an instinctual recoil.  Accompanied by long, clear tone in right ear, too.  Felt reassured from the right-ear tone – thought of cats around me and safety in the immanent present of the Creator.  As I began recording the experience, right-ear tone sounded again.  I paused to clasp my hands near my solar plexus and heart and thank the greeter, express my genuine opinion that they are fascinating, and to wish them love and comfort. 

This is not the first psychic greeting I have received, though I have, up until this incident, classified the majority of my greetings as originating from my subconscious:  I have been struggling with prolonged musculoskeletal discomfort for the past few years.  During the day the discomfort is manageable, though I am prone to fidgeting and compulsive stretching.  During the night the discomfort seems to become magnified, and so I am prone to insomnia.  

Intermittently, I do receive the left ear tones described by Ra as negative signals arriving from "senders of images and light."  For me, the tones have always been brief and mild.  The greeting I received today was still localized to my left ear but manifested as something beyond sound.  As I wrote in my journal, the signal was quite shocking - in fact, I would say my response was near-identical to receiving an electric discharge from an exposed outlet or wire.  I whipped my head to 'face' the signal, having felt decisively violated.  I struggle to explicate what exactly I mean by a violation.  Let's just say that, certainly, I felt like I was played--like a violin--plucked upon so that I might become disturbed or demoralized.
 
I rarely receive right ear tones, yet one followed the left ear tone with a seeming urgency (or, perhaps, prescience).  Immediately, I felt consoled.  When I began to record the event in my journal, I was counseled (to send in return the gratitude, admiration, and warm goodbye).        

All previous left ear tones, I have been interpreting as "glances" or "checking in on me."  This most recent signal strikes me as more purposive, though I think, to the sender's possible chagrin, the overall effect on me has been one of encouragement and wonder.  I feel, in a way, honored by this new visitor.  I feel equally grateful for my protector - I will not forget their great act of service, their intercession on my behalf.

[aWanderer91]

Hi all,

So I was hoping we could maybe create a post together, where we can share our own stories of psychic greetings and any other uses of black magic and how we healed from it. By sharing how we healed, we allow others to follow a similar path if they ever encounter or have encountered such things.

I encountered two service to self beings on earth who were practicing black magic. I went through the Orion tactics of over activation of the heart and blockage to the indigo ray and I'm still healing from this now. 

Keeping an open heart, living simply, receiving crystal healing, not over indulging in drugs and alcohol, fasting and meditation with no technique (just sitting) has helped me the most in terms of healing. I found opening up to others who are not aware of these things to be of no avail, if anything it left me feeling extremely lonely so I had to use my initiative and develop my own methods as I navigated through this.

I'm more than happy to help any others who are going through this manipulation and confusion is not to be underestimated I feel. 

Love and light to you all <3

Hello to you, aWanderer91, from close to one month into the future. 
Little more than one hour ago now, I experienced a psychic greeting!  I wanted to reflect, share, and anchor my experience with my (other!) friends, after my greeter friend had taken leave of me.  

Here is what I wrote immediately following the greeting, in one of my journals:

12:35pm – clear psychic greeting.  Sensation of presence – not quite a puff of air or noise or any particular sensation, except for the clear sensation of ‘violation,’ which produced an instinctual recoil.  Accompanied by long, clear tone in right ear, too.  Felt reassured from the right-ear tone – thought of cats around me and safety in the immanent present of the Creator.  As I began recording the experience, right-ear tone sounded again.  I paused to clasp my hands near my solar plexus and heart and thank the greeter, express my genuine opinion that they are fascinating, and to wish them love and comfort. 

This is not the first psychic greeting I have received, though I have, up until this incident, classified the majority of my greetings as originating from my subconscious:  I have been struggling with prolonged musculoskeletal discomfort for the past few years.  During the day the discomfort is manageable, though I am prone to fidgeting and compulsive stretching.  During the night the discomfort seems to become magnified, and so I am prone to insomnia.  

Intermittently, I do receive the left ear tones described by Ra as negative signals arriving from "senders of images and light."  For me, the tones have always been brief and mild.  The greeting I received today was still localized to my left ear but manifested as something beyond sound.  As I wrote in my journal, the signal was quite shocking - in fact, I would say my response was near-identical to receiving an electric discharge from an exposed outlet or wire.  I whipped my head to 'face' the signal, having felt decisively violated.  I struggle to explicate what exactly I mean by a violation.  Let's just say that, certainly, I felt like I was played--like a violin--plucked upon so that I might become disturbed or demoralized.
 
I rarely receive right ear tones, yet one followed the left ear tone with a seeming urgency (or, perhaps, prescience).  Immediately, I felt consoled.  When I began to record the event in my journal, I was counseled (to send in return the gratitude, admiration, and warm goodbye).        

All previous left ear tones, I have been interpreting as "glances" or "checking in on me."  This most recent signal strikes me as more purposive, though I think, to the sender's possible chagrin, the overall effect on me has been one of encouragement and wonder.  I feel, in a way, honored by this new visitor.  I feel equally grateful for my protector - I will not forget their great act of service, their intercession on my behalf.

Hi Vestige,

Thank you for sharing your story, it's very informative and honourable of you!

I resonate so deeply with your feeling of being "violated", I had this feeling for many months during a pyschic greeting and it was truly horrible. I just wanted the energies and feelings off of me, gone forever, I felt quite smothered in some aspects.

I admire the way you went about this, with a balanced attitude and with love/understanding

[aWanderer91]

P.s I think it's amazing how open everyone has been here. It shows we have each other, and I'm sure our sharing's help strengthen us with more protection of love and light. And I have a feeling our positive "unseen friends" are listening (reading) too.

[tadeus]

"Always choose love, peace and harmony", these are such appropriate words for someone dealing with any service to self entity, as the most likely act most humans would take is to panic and act in defence with fear or delusion. To seek love and unity during these times keeps the vibration high and our discernment as clear as possible.

Yes - that's the best 'standard answer'.

But when you are attacked with malice, it is very difficult to respond with love.

However, there is the possibility to ward off these negative attacks and thoughts by reflecting them mentally.
So do not answer with hatred and force, but imagine a loving shield on which all this negativity is thrown back.
This builds up a protection and the attacker only harms himself.

Another possibility is to ask for help from the spirits that stand by one's side.

[flofrog]

Best wishes to you both Vestige and aWanderer91.


Vestige thank you ever so much for copying Spaced post which was truly wonderful…

[Vestige]

Best wishes to you both Vestige and aWanderer91.


Vestige thank you ever so much for copying Spaced post which was truly wonderful…

flofrog, best wishes to you too! 

I do not see where I copied Spaced's post, so if you can link it again I would be grateful.  It is always wonderful to see where minds meet!

[flofrog]

Whoa Vestige, I am so sorry … I seem to have followed an alternative life line…. Let me research

[flofrog]

Vestige I found it, it was not this thread at all but this one where you included Spaced and made such a great post…. Thank you again

https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...#pid308643