Covid vaccine and personal experiences

[Relax]

one person's vaccine side effects, with picture
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=102...6676572779

this person was (in her own words) previously

"working in a nursing home unvaccinated..."

that is COMPLETELY selfish and uncaring.

Get a different job rather than putting elderly people at risk of death from Covid!  :@

speechless with anger at this point with the selfishness of antivax disinfo.

NB: it's now 2 weeks since my first Pfizer vaccination and I FEEL FINE.

ffs

[David_1]

   With kindness toward Relax . . .
   Your comments are based on the assumption that the purpose of the shots is to benefit humanity.
   I hope you continue to feel fine.

[Patrick]

Your comments are based on the assumption that the purpose of the shots is to benefit humanity.

That seems obvious to me. I think anyone who has anything good to say about vaccination believes they are a good manifestation for humanity.

At least I think we all agree that the virus is the work of the negatives and is not a benefit to humanity.

[LeiwoUnion]

What are the physical, physiological, economical, political and metaphysical differences between the mRNA vaccine, adenovirus vector vaccine and inactivated pathogen vaccine?
What is the difference between innate and adaptive immune systems? How do they interact with each other?
Which came first, the egg or the hen?
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

[flofrog]

I have not posted much on this subject because I feel there is so much information already, and also I happen to be sort of neutral, I got the vaccine early when it was available because my children were so worried to see me possibly dying in hospital without them around.

I do feel this is a personal choice and that no one should force anyone to decide one way or the other.
I cannot put my head into a dark project to reduce humanity, but I respect that one would believe so. It's just not my feeling.
I am much more for what Ra says in 34.6 and 7, which has been posted before by others members,

Ra: I am Ra. We observed your interest in the catalyst of pain. This experience is most common among your entities. The pain may be of the physical complex. More often it is of the mental and emotional complex. In some few cases the pain is spiritual in complex-nature. This creates a potential for learning. The lessons to be learned vary. Almost always these lessons include patience, tolerance, and the ability for the light touch.  (...)

34.7 Questioner: Do what we call contagious diseases play any part in this process with respect to the unmanifested self?
Ra: I am Ra. These so-called contagious diseases are those entities of second density which offer an opportunity for this type of catalyst

I am writing this post because I came in the last two days on two things. Phil Valentine, a conservative talk show host, just passed away from Covid and in subsequent messages from hospital, he apologized for having encouraged people to not take the vaccine. He was obvisouly in pain about this, the article made me feel so much sadness for him and so much compassion. Again I am not criticizing any action he took, I just feel so sad for someone to pass away with this weight.

The other thing I came upon was yesterday. I read often the message from retired journalist Dan Rather. He writes on Substack, a daily message on all kind of subjects, he is old like me and he is a compassionate man who probably will pass away soon. He was writing yesterday a beautiful piece to thank all the ER staff everywhere for their ongoing devoted work. His message was quite beautiful and there was a comment by a nurse.

I am copying it because I am fine, if I die soon I am old, but while I live fine on my side, there is this too,

Monica A 22 hr ago Liked by Elliot Kirschner, Steady Team

I’m an Anesthesiologist, and I LOVE my job and I love putting my patients at ease in the few minutes I have with them before they trust me with their lives. When I ask my patients if they are vaccinated and they reply yes, I thank them, and I breathe a bit easier knowing that not only is my risk now lower, but so is everyone in that operating room. There is so much aerosolization during extubation (and intubation) that I worry about the different staff that are in the room. Anesthethesia techs, moving help, circulator. I take steps to decrease the amount of particles in the air regardless of vaccine status, but not all patients extubate the same. Some are still sleepy and some can cough from the stimulation of removing the tube. When I come across the unvaccinated patient, it really pisses me off because now it’s not just me but increased risk to OR staff, preop staff, post op recovery staff and on and on. I’m kind in my responses and urge them to vaccinate, but inside I’m upset because it’s people like this that will drag this pandemic on.

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Now don't flame me yet. This is just one opinion from a nurse. I personally think we have all planned how we end our lives, so in some ways, whether we choose the vaccine or not, whether the vaccine is detrimental or beneficial, I think our lives will end the way we planned it. I dont know if the pandemic will stop because of vaccination, or will drag because of detrimental vaccine. But I think we should have gratitude for all medical staff, and its' funny because I dont take any medicine, I am really interested only into alternative medicine, so the standard medical world is not my thing, but the lives of these people, they are our brothers and sisters, so it's just a thought, it's just a thought.

[unity100]

Again I am not criticizing any action he took,

There seems to be the problem isnt it. If even actions which are damaging towards entire humanity are not criticized and those who irresponsibly take those actions are immune from any social repercussions for their actions, that will just foster and empower those who are irresponsible. Just like how the current economic system encourages and enables the greedy.

...

This Delta variant was cooked in India, by a neoliberal/capitalist right wing government prioritizing 'the economy', aided by similar people who played down or outright denied the pandemic. Now entire humanity is suffering from their actions.

[Patrick]

This is a poignant account that I felt like sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx30E9Bi-C8

[flofrog]

Heartbreaking Patrick
I have two friends who are nurses, my third friend nurse passed away nearly a year ago and she was 38.
I couldn’t live their life. Most of the patients they intubate will die of asphyxia with the code blue beep going until it’s finished.. It’s just, I mean there’s no word

[Relax]

“Do your research!!!”

Here’s the thing.

Research is a learned skill; it is hard, it is nuanced and complex, and it is true that the majority of people would not even know where to begin or even HOW to do [their own] research.

Research is NOT:

Googling, scrolling your FB newsfeed, or watching YouTube or 4Chan to search for the results you are hoping to find to be “true.”

These are called confirmation biases, and are quickly and easily ruled out when doing actual research.

A post credited to Linda Gamble Spadaro, a licensed mental health counselor in Florida, sums this up quite well:

“Please stop saying you researched it.
You didn’t research anything and it is highly probable you don’t know how to do so.
Did you compile a literature review and write abstracts on each article? Or better yet, did you collect a random sample of sources and perform independent probability statistics on the reported results? No?
Did you at least take each article one by one and look into the source (that would be the author, publisher and funder), then critique the writing for logical fallacies, cognitive distortions and plain inaccuracies?

Did you ask yourself why this source might publish these particular results?
Did you follow the trail of references and apply the same source of scrutiny to them?

No? Then you didn’t research anything.

You read or watched a video, most likely with little or no objectivity.

You came across something in your algorithm manipulated feed, something that jived with your implicit biases and served your confirmation bias, and subconsciously applied your emotional filters and called it proof.”

This doesn’t even go into institutional review boards (IRB’s), also known as independent ethics committees, ethical review boards, or touch on peer-review, or meta-analyses.

To sum it up, a healthy dose of skepticism is/can be a good thing…as long as we are also applying it to those things we wish/think to be true, and not just those things we choose to be skeptical towards, or in denial of.

Most importantly, though, is to apply our best critical thinking skills to ensure we are doing our best to suss out the facts from the fiction, the myths, and outright BS in pseudoscience and politics.

Misinformation is being used as a tool of war and to undermine our public health, and it is up to each of us to fight against it.

To add my personal commentary to this - I want to say that in the absence of having a University degree in science, medicine, history or politics (but I do have a degree in 'Media/Communication') probably the single most important thing that I 'believe' is we need to keep our minds as open as possible - read as much (from EXPERTS) as possible... and then... read even more. Yes, go with your personal inner guidance - but don't expect that to align with others...that's-infringement

Encourage yourself to feel comfortable with being 'unsure' - 'still figuring things out'.

Why do I say this?

Because the most expert, learned persons across a range of relevant specialities nearly always have an awareness of how much more there is to discover - to consider, to investigate. It's the nature of an intelligent, enquiring, rigorous thinking process.

STOP - please, with any agenda pro or anti - you are doing people a massive disservice. Particularly when you use fear and *disempowerment narratives. Again - you're infringing on people.

The only caveat to that* is sharing feedback from those right at the 'coal face'... ie: the distressed feelings of disempowerment of the medical staff/nurses who have to endure struggling to help people live but eventually seeing people needlessly die from disinfo.

[Dtris]

Want to share since I recently was sick and it was the rona. I haven't had the vaccine, but this seems like the right place to share.

The way the virus progresses raises the qi into the chest. This would be a qi deviation in Traditional Chinese Medicine. This is why shortness of breath is common and persists for weeks or months afterward. If you want to get rid of this, deep abdominal breathing will bring the qi back down to the lower dantien and re-establish a healthy breathing pattern. The shortness of breath will go away once this pattern of abdominal breathing is established or re-established. There may be a period where you have some phlegm which is in the lungs and needs expelled. Once the breathing is fixed then doing exercise that induces heavy breathing will help expel anything which needs expelled.

Stay Healthy everyone.

[confusedseeker]

Want to share since I recently was sick and it was the rona. I haven't had the vaccine, but this seems like the right place to share.

The way the virus progresses raises the qi into the chest. This would be a qi deviation in Traditional Chinese Medicine. This is why shortness of breath is common and persists for weeks or months afterward. If you want to get rid of this, deep abdominal breathing will bring the qi back down to the lower dantien and re-establish a healthy breathing pattern. The shortness of breath will go away once this pattern of abdominal breathing is established or re-established. There may be a period where you have some phlegm which is in the lungs and needs expelled. Once the breathing is fixed then doing exercise that induces heavy breathing will help expel anything which needs expelled.

Stay Healthy everyone.

How was your experience with it? What is your age and how long did it take to get over it?

[ScottK]

How was your experience with it? What is your age and how long did it take to get over it?

I'm not the poster you were addressing, but I believe I just had it like a month ago. My 14 year old boy kindly brought it home with his friends. He got better in 3 days. It took me and my gal about two and a half weeks. We are mid-fifties age. I had pounded it pretty well with CDS, so it didn't get that bad, but it still did develop.

I had a lot of mucous in the lungs, lost my taste (pretty much back now) and I was really tired. The losing my taste was kind of bizarre - for the guy that cooks in the family, it pretty much shut down the cooking. Fruit punch tasted like an apple cider cinnamon drink, which was kind of tasty, but coffee was awful tasting. I could only mow the front yard or the back yard at one time, when I normally do both without a problem.

I would call it annoying, but not a big deal for me. An interesting experience to be sure.

[Dtris]

Want to share since I recently was sick and it was the rona. I haven't had the vaccine, but this seems like the right place to share.

The way the virus progresses raises the qi into the chest. This would be a qi deviation in Traditional Chinese Medicine. This is why shortness of breath is common and persists for weeks or months afterward. If you want to get rid of this, deep abdominal breathing will bring the qi back down to the lower dantien and re-establish a healthy breathing pattern. The shortness of breath will go away once this pattern of abdominal breathing is established or re-established. There may be a period where you have some phlegm which is in the lungs and needs expelled. Once the breathing is fixed then doing exercise that induces heavy breathing will help expel anything which needs expelled.

Stay Healthy everyone.

How was your experience with it? What is your age and how long did it take to get over it?

Upper 30s, fever 10 days, some minor throat soreness and congestion. After the fever went away still had some shortness of breath. Never lost taste or smell but taste changed. Overall it sucked, but wasn't that bad.

[Nikki]

How was your experience with it? What is your age and how long did it take to get over it?

I'm not the poster you were addressing, but I believe I just had it like a month ago.  My 14 year old boy kindly brought it home with his friends.  He got better in 3 days.  It took me and my gal about two and a half weeks.  We are mid-fifties age.  I had pounded it pretty well with CDS, so it didn't get that bad, but it still did develop.

I had a lot of mucous in the lungs, lost my taste (pretty much back now) and I was really tired.  The losing my taste was kind of bizarre - for the guy that cooks in the family, it pretty much shut down the cooking.  Fruit punch tasted like an apple cider cinnamon drink, which was kind of tasty, but coffee was awful tasting.  I could only mow the front yard or the back yard at one time, when I normally do both without a problem.

I would call it annoying, but not a big deal for me.  An interesting experience to be sure.

Thank you for sharing your experience with covid. Wondering if you and your gal were vaccinated or not?

[tadeus]

Last weekend a friend told me the following (wordly translation):

Peter already knows the first vaccinated. 2 weeks after the vaccination he fell over and the doctors did not know why and a week later he fell over again then he was dead.
He was 34 years old and in good health. He went running, cycling, he was in top shape.

[ScottK]

Thank you for sharing your experience with covid.  Wondering if you and your gal were vaccinated or not?

We have both decided to pass on Graphene Oxide, nanobots, Luciferase, and whatever animal dna is in there.

[Nikki]

Last weekend a friend told me the following (wordly translation):

Peter already knows the first vaccinated. 2 weeks after the vaccination he fell over and the doctors did not know why and a week later he fell over again then he was dead.
He was 34 years old and in good health. He went running, cycling, he was in top shape.

Where was that quoted from?

[tadeus]

Where was that quoted from?

From a private chat with this friend and quoted as translation here.

[Nikki]

Where was that quoted from?

From a private chat with this friend and quoted as translation here.

Thank you, may your friend and all others involved be blessed with all they need in these difficult times. In love

[jafar]

I took the Sinovac vaccine, 2 shots..
As a side effect: I become fluent in Mandarin Chinese.

Kidding... although my Mandarin is not too bad.
No complaint, no side effects, everything is fine.

I wish the side effect above is true, serves as a valid reason to also took the Russian vaccine.

[LeiwoUnion]

I took the Sinovac vaccine, 2 shots..
As a side effect: I become fluent in Mandarin Chinese.

Kidding... although my Mandarin is not too bad.
No complaint, no side effects, everything is fine.

I wish the side effect above is true, serves as a valid reason to also took the Russian vaccine.

Note that the more known sputnik V is not like sinovac.

[confusedseeker]

I took the Sinovac vaccine, 2 shots..
As a side effect: I become fluent in Mandarin Chinese.

Kidding... although my Mandarin is not too bad.
No complaint, no side effects, everything is fine.

I wish the side effect above is true, serves as a valid reason to also took the Russian vaccine.

from what I've heard, Sinovac is the safest one

[the]

I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well.

Hi Patrick,
I think you asked me if there's any cure for the vaccine in one post, or something like that. but unfortunately i can't find the original post.

i just came across this video, can't say this is true. so just to share it here, in case somebody want to do more research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHrmmmoX30

did a little more research, seems this medicine suramin, although it's a century old medicine and listed as the WHO essential medicine. it's hard to get in US and Canada.

however, it is derived from pine needle, so can easily make one from natural material.
this is the article.
https://thefreedomarticles.com/covid-vac...plication/

just saw a new video, it says 'pine needle tea' and 'suramin' are two different things, can't use 'pine needle teal' to replace suaramin, also many other useful information, e.g. for a healthy, un-vaccined  people,no need to worry about other people's 'vaccine spike protein shedding' , get infected, immune system can fight them successfully, and it's good for unvaccined people's health.

3) Stew Peters - Dr Judy Mikovits - Talks Shedding Jab Recovery And Defeating The 'Virus'
https://rumble.com/vm2oj1-3-stew-peters-...Roc9N5arug

[the]

All Vaxxinated People Must Quarantine Over the Winter Months or Risk Serious Illness!! https://www.covidglobalnews.live/health/...s-illness/

[the]

I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well.

Hi Patrick,
I think you asked me if there's any cure for the vaccine in one post, or something like that. but unfortunately i can't find the original post.

i just came across this video, can't say this is true. so just to share it here, in case somebody want to do more research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHrmmmoX30

did a little more research, seems this medicine suramin, although it's a century old medicine and listed as the WHO essential medicine. it's hard to get in US and Canada.

however, it is derived from pine needle, so can easily make one from natural material.
this is the article.
https://thefreedomarticles.com/covid-vac...plication/

just saw a new video, it says 'pine needle tea' and 'suramin' are two different things, can't use 'pine needle teal' to replace suaramin, also many other useful information, e.g. for a healthy, un-vaccined  people,no need to worry about other people's 'vaccine spike protein shedding' , get infected, immune system can fight them successfully, and it's good for unvaccined people's health.

3) Stew Peters - Dr Judy Mikovits - Talks Shedding Jab Recovery And Defeating The 'Virus'
https://rumble.com/vm2oj1-3-stew-peters-...Roc9N5arug

this video describes ways to treat vaccine side effect
The Cabal Has Played Their Last Card, & We Win ~ Gene Decode



https://rumble.com/vmnd7b-the-cabal-has-...ecode.html

[the]

I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well.

Hi Patrick,
I think you asked me if there's any cure for the vaccine in one post, or something like that. but unfortunately i can't find the original post.

i just came across this video, can't say this is true. so just to share it here, in case somebody want to do more research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHrmmmoX30

did a little more research, seems this medicine suramin, although it's a century old medicine and listed as the WHO essential medicine. it's hard to get in US and Canada.

however, it is derived from pine needle, so can easily make one from natural material.
this is the article.
https://thefreedomarticles.com/covid-vac...plication/

just saw a new video, it says 'pine needle tea' and 'suramin' are two different things, can't use 'pine needle teal' to replace suaramin, also many other useful information, e.g. for a healthy, un-vaccined  people,no need to worry about other people's 'vaccine spike protein shedding' , get infected, immune system can fight them successfully, and it's good for unvaccined people's health.

3) Stew Peters - Dr Judy Mikovits - Talks Shedding Jab Recovery And Defeating The 'Virus'
https://rumble.com/vm2oj1-3-stew-peters-...Roc9N5arug

this video describes ways to treat vaccine side effect
The Cabal Has Played Their Last Card, & We Win ~ Gene Decode



https://rumble.com/vmnd7b-the-cabal-has-...ecode.html

reduce 'graphene oxide' harm in vaccine：vit c, glutathione and n acetyl cysteine.

[the]

I received my first dose of AstraZeneca. So far all is well.

Hi Patrick,
I think you asked me if there's any cure for the vaccine in one post, or something like that. but unfortunately i can't find the original post.

i just came across this video, can't say this is true. so just to share it here, in case somebody want to do more research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYHrmmmoX30

did a little more research, seems this medicine suramin, although it's a century old medicine and listed as the WHO essential medicine. it's hard to get in US and Canada.

however, it is derived from pine needle, so can easily make one from natural material.
this is the article.
https://thefreedomarticles.com/covid-vac...plication/

this video explained very clearly, once people took the vaccine, there's no way to clean it ( in 3D).  Vaccines, Covid, Viruses - Information Mix - Anéeka of Temmer https://odysee.com/@CosmicAgency:c/505mb:e

so all those 'vaccine cure' is just to reduce the symptom.

[tadeus]

Yesterday there was a burdensome conversation about COVID with a younger female being, who is (with her boyfriend) actually quite undeceived about what is going on and has actively refused vaccination for these reasons (so far).

Now she is completely disrupted inside about getting vaccinated and having serious side effects such as severe pain in her arm.
This happened, because she could no longer stand the pressure from her (vaccinated) work colleagues and she feared being thrown out for no reason during the probationary period of her training, as well as not being able to get her driver's license, which was financed by the employment office and having to reimburse the previous costs for it, when it cannot be completed.

So here an obligatory vaccination was indirectly successfully implemented against the explicit free will.
It was extremely difficult to find any comforting words, it was only possible to express the compassion.

[Margan]

I feel so sorry for those who are subject to so much pressure, and threatend with losing their livelihoods if they do not comply.
Thank you, it is good you were there for her and offered compassion, what else is there to do?
Am curious how the case of Joshua Kimmich is going to end.
Kimmich is a famous soccer player here in Germany who does not want to get the vaxxine because he fears long time negative effects on his health.. Politicians are collectively condemning him for that. (that aside, he is a healthy twenty-something - what would he have to fear from the covid anyways)
And now he is quarantine because one of his fully vaxxed team colleagues was tested positive.
And still the pressure continues.
You really cannot make this up. And of course the double jabbed player who is corona positive is not mentioned, or only very briefly, but they are jumping on Kimmich again for unjabbed.