Don's Source About Intense Meditation And Metal Bending

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50.10 QUESTIONER I know of people who have been recently trained in meditation who, after a very short period of intense meditation, a couple of days or so, are able to cause the action at a distance effect on metal, bending it.

Does anyone here have any idea where Don got this information or have you ever heard of something like it? Thank you!

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[DougD]

I believe The Monroe Institute ran a seminar that taught it some time back. I find it incredible, I’d be interested to see it myself.

[DougD]

If I may post this, here you go

https://www.monroeinstituteuk.org/spoon-...out-force/

[sunnysideup]

Perhaps Don got this information from Henry Puharich and his research on Uri Geller and the like.

[Ming the Merciful]

About this excerpt:

50.10 QUESTIONER I know of people who have been recently trained in meditation who, after a very short period of intense meditation, a couple of days or so, are able to cause the action at a distance effect on metal, bending it.

Does anyone here have any idea where Don got this information or have you ever heard of something like it? Thank you!

Without wanting to put a "Damper on Things", what is the point? I came from the School of Zen, and such practises are considered pointless. Meditation development is to achieve Spiritual Awakening and Self-Development, and eventually Liberation. Spoon bending achieves nothing. Are you seeking to become "Awake" with "Party Tricks", or in it for the "Real Thing". I consider such practises and something that is holding you back, and not taking you forward. It is like the story in Zen, where a student spent ten years in Meditation on the bank of a river, seeking to cross the river by Levitation. The Spiritual Master passed, and said use the bridge. It would be easier to bend a spoon with a hammer, than wasting time in Meditation.

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Without wanting to put a "Damper on Things", what is the point? I came from the School of Zen, and such practises are considered pointless. Meditation development is to achieve Spiritual Awakening and Self-Development, and eventually Liberation. Spoon bending achieves nothing. Are you seeking to become "Awake" with "Party Tricks", or in it for the "Real Thing". I consider such practises and something that is holding you back, and not taking you forward. It is like the story in Zen, where a student spent ten years in Meditation on the bank of a river, seeking to cross the river by Levitation. The Spiritual Master passed, and said use the bridge. It would be easier to bend a spoon with a hammer, than wasting time in Meditation.

My interest is more in what exactly this "intense meditation" would be. What kind of technique does this consist of.

[Ming the Merciful]

Without wanting to put a "Damper on Things", what is the point? I came from the School of Zen, and such practises are considered pointless. Meditation development is to achieve Spiritual Awakening and Self-Development, and eventually Liberation. Spoon bending achieves nothing. Are you seeking to become "Awake" with "Party Tricks", or in it for the "Real Thing". I consider such practises and something that is holding you back, and not taking you forward. It is like the story in Zen, where a student spent ten years in Meditation on the bank of a river, seeking to cross the river by Levitation. The Spiritual Master passed, and said use the bridge. It would be easier to bend a spoon with a hammer, than wasting time in Meditation.

My interest is more in what exactly this "intense meditation" would be. What kind of technique does this consist of.

My favourite technique is Still Mind Meditation. Simply, stop thinking. At the beginning you stop thinking for a few seconds. Then as you advance, increase the time. It is an easy technique at the beginning, and then after you have extended it to twenty or thirty seconds, the Mind demands to regain control. Do you control your Mind, or does your Mind control you? I am the Master of my Mind. Intense Meditation begins when you remain in constant control. Only you will know when that happens. It is different for each individual, and no two people are alike. Bending spoons are for magicians and illusionists. I even question the validity of Uri Geller? He has a sordid past with the CIA and the Israeli Secret Service.

[tadeus]

Without wanting to put a "Damper on Things", what is the point? I came from the School of Zen, and such practises are considered pointless. Meditation development is to achieve Spiritual Awakening and Self-Development, and eventually Liberation. Spoon bending achieves nothing. Are you seeking to become "Awake" with "Party Tricks", or in it for the "Real Thing". I consider such practises and something that is holding you back, and not taking you forward. It is like the story in Zen, where a student spent ten years in Meditation on the bank of a river, seeking to cross the river by Levitation. The Spiritual Master passed, and said use the bridge. It would be easier to bend a spoon with a hammer, than wasting time in Meditation.

I agree that such things are only a 'material' proof for the possibility of 'paranormal activity'.
This might be sensational for much people, but does not really point into an direction of spiritual progress.
It's on the 'edge' of metaphysical work similar to magic work, where it is not clear if the goal can be seen as positive work.

[Ming the Merciful]

Without wanting to put a "Damper on Things", what is the point? I came from the School of Zen, and such practises are considered pointless. Meditation development is to achieve Spiritual Awakening and Self-Development, and eventually Liberation. Spoon bending achieves nothing. Are you seeking to become "Awake" with "Party Tricks", or in it for the "Real Thing". I consider such practises and something that is holding you back, and not taking you forward. It is like the story in Zen, where a student spent ten years in Meditation on the bank of a river, seeking to cross the river by Levitation. The Spiritual Master passed, and said use the bridge. It would be easier to bend a spoon with a hammer, than wasting time in Meditation.

I agree that such things are only a 'material' proof for the possibility of 'paranormal activity'.
This might be sensational for much people, but does not really point into an direction of spiritual progress.
It's on the 'edge' of metaphysical work similar to magic work, where it is not clear if the goal can be seen as positive work.

What I was taught coming from Zen. Magic are only the side-effects of Spiritual Development. The "Magic", (or "Party Tricks"), manifests itself as we develop Spiritually. It is more important to concentrate on the action of Spiritual Development, and not the Party Tricks. As we grow Spiritually, Materialism and the Artificial World subsides and become meaningless. What was once considered important, such as physical possessions or a status in society become of no importance as we develop and attuned to the Universal Nature. My answer to your question is, allow yourself to find your way Spiritually, and if the "Party Tricks" happen, let them happen, but do not put all your effort on the Party Tricks. Do you want to grow Spiritually, or are you in it just for the Party Tricks?

[Patrick]

I would also mention that many wanderers has put a solid block on those "Party Tricks".

If that is the case for you, then nothing you try will ever work. This is by design in this case.

65.19 Questioner: Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvestable did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory?

Ra: I am Ra. The reason is twofold. First, the genetic properties of the connection between the mind/body/spirit complex and the cellular structure of the body is different for third density than for third/fourth density.

Secondly, the free will of third-density entities needs be preserved. Thus Wanderers volunteer for third-density genetic or DNA connections to the mind/body/spirit complex. The forgetting process can be penetrated to the extent of the Wanderer remembering what it is and why it is upon the planetary sphere. However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve.

The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory. There are always a few exceptions, and we ask your forgiveness for constant barrages of over-generalization.

I know that this is the case for me. Any and all demonstrable paranormal phenomenon are totally blocked from my experience.

I only have access to the ones that I could never use as proof for others. Like Ear Tones and feeling my chakras, stuff like that.

Even then, these "proof" only came to me after I no longer needed any proofs at all. Before that there was nothing paranormal within my experience.

"The new fourth-density entities which are becoming able to demonstrate various newer abilities are doing so as a result of the present experience, not as a result of memory."

So those able to do that stuff are just learning these new tricks right now for the first time. This pretty much exclude all higher density wanderers.

[tadeus]

I have found some other questions on this "material manipulation":

Why is bending metal so popular?
I think the reason is only this guy Uri Geller, who did it on television in the 70's.

Why it seems that such thinks are 'easier' than going over the water or manifesting food or other needful material?

I know that this is the case for me. Any and all demonstrable paranormal phenomenon are totally blocked from my experience.

I only have access to the ones that I could never use as proof for others. Like Ear Tones and feeling my chakras, stuff like that.

Even then, these "proof" only came to me after I no longer needed any proofs at all. Before that there was nothing paranormal within my experience.

It's the same for me.
Except some little interesting experiences in young years that i issued as maybe delusion.

[Black Dragon]

Such party tricks are boring anyways. Why bend a spoon when you can bend space and time to live your highest excitement and greatest destiny? Why throw a useless ball of fire when you can ignite the fire of the green ray center?

Here are some actual manifestations/phenomena that are potentially worth training: Telepathy/psionics/empathic abilities(to connect with guides and ET allies), lucid dreaming, astral travel, remote viewing, bilocation, timeline manifestations of deep shadow work, Akashic records access, energy healing, structuring water. There are likely more that I'm missing. All of these abilities have productive uses.