Question about thoughts

[Ozziwtf]

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[Dtris]

Hey everyone,
So my problem is the following. After reading through the material several times, and also reading up on the topic from other scriptures and finding many nuggets of information, i came to the conclusion that constant thinking distorts the reality around one. This is all fine and good. But then the real question is this: If I managed to meditate all throughout the day, and simply be present in the now, without reacting to stuff or distorting the energy coming through me by thinking, what am I going to see around me ? Because I notice more and more as I observe my thoughts more carefully that almost everything around me used to be a thought of mine, at some point in time, before I stumbled into it. So, if I managed to stop thinking, what would I see?
Thanks for all the answers in advance for helping me  

There are levels and layers of thought. What is generally meant by "stop thinking" is to silence the inner dialogue which everyone develops as they grow.

Now our thoughts are things and our beliefs literally create reality. We each experience our own reality which is shared by communication between consciousnesses on a level much deeper than even sub conscious thought.

If you could somehow stop thinking, and believing, you may be able to find the void. Or maybe nothing would change since we live in a consensus reality. Perhaps you would immediately transcend space and time and become one with all.

While we can stop the inner dialogue and become more and more present in the moment, I do not think it is possible to stop thought altogether at this stage of our development.

[Spaced]

If you stopped thinking, would that include no longer interpreting sensory inputs? Would it include ignoring bodily sensations such as the need for food?

I think if one were able to completely stop thinking then they would no longer be present in this world and in due time their physical body would pass away. What happens to the non-physical bodies I can't say.

I think it would be very difficult if not completely impossible to cease thinking altogether. Your consciousness is constantly bombarded by sensory information and is interacting with subconscious mind constantly to create mental catalyst (i.e. thoughts and ideas).

Ra points out in the first session of the Ra material that our true nature is thought.

Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought.

Without thought there would be no being.

[Patrick]

When I manage to really silence the flow of thought for long enough what I experience is a vague feeling of something happening just behind my conscious awareness. A kind of frantic flow of concepts that I am barely able to be aware of while in the silence non thought state. I interpret this vague experience as a sort of data download/upload. Like uploading your state to the root of the tree of mind and downloading the new parameters for your next experiences.

Questioner: I would ask about what, in yogic terminology, is referred to as kriyas [1] which I experience as resistance within the body and mind complex to the free flowing of intelligent energy as it was given from the Creator. I am wondering if this is largely due to mental distortions which have their root in the physical body or are they also maybe preexisting physical distortions? And in what way can I work towards clearing my mind/body complex to allow this freer flowing energy?

I am Q’uo. I am aware of your query, my brother. The distorting effects of which you speak are, for most entities, reflections of mental origin which have as their roots the particular bias that has been desired to be experienced as a portion of a lesson or a service within an incarnation. There is the movement through the deeper portions of the tree of mind that is made as one enters into the meditative state and begins to contact those deeper portions of mind. One experiences this contact as an increase in one’s vibratory rate or awareness of this nature of being. One also passes through the area in which the perceptions have been formed and reside, upon a subconscious level, and refracts a portion of this light energy.

These symbolic experiences that, in effect, cause a resistance to the available and increasing energy of intelligence contacted may be seen in their more expansive nature, shall we say, by observing the energy centers affected and the type of expression that occurs within the life pattern in the daily round of activities as a result of this kind of distortion, which is also an opportunity to become more aware of a facet of the being that seeks balance.

Thus, one may observe the daily round of activities in a regularized fashion so that those experiences which register in a polarized form, either toward the positive or the negative, in personal terms, may be noted and used as seed for meditation, so that greater understanding of that facet of the self might be achieved and might be applied to the life experience in a more conscious fashion when similar catalytic circumstances present themselves once again.

This kind of review of the daily experience has the effect of illumination in that the self becomes informed. It has the effect of allowing for balance to occur within the total being as well as the effect of providing the opportunity for forgiveness to be offered to other selves and also the self, which indeed deserves this kind of inner acceptance and requires such in order for the movement from that point to be made.

[meadow-foreigner]

There are levels and layers of thought. What is generally meant by "stop thinking" is to silence the inner dialogue which everyone develops as they grow.

If there's a dialogue, there is more than one participant. Have you ever wondered who you talk to, using your mind?

[Patrick]

There are levels and layers of thought. What is generally meant by "stop thinking" is to silence the inner dialogue which everyone develops as they grow.

If there's a dialogue, there is more than one participant. Have you ever wondered who you talk to, using your mind?

We are that which witnesses that inner dialogue. We are basically using a thought generator to help create catalysts. This thing is not easy to turn off!

[tadeus]

Because I notice more and more as I observe my thoughts more carefully that almost everything around me used to be a thought of mine, at some point in time, before I stumbled into it. So, if I managed to stop thinking, what would I see?

What you see is the sum of the influence / manifestation of all souls.
So when you stop thinking you stop your influence.

Try to differ the level of your possible influence when you are in the society of other souls or when you are alone.
My observation is that i have more influence on my surrounding when i am alone and there is much distance to other souls.
Even the communication to the 2D part is much better.

[meadow-foreigner]

We are that which witnesses that inner dialogue.

Between who and who?

We are basically using a thought generator to help create catalysts. This thing is not easy to turn off!

Isn't it interesting how you termed the Self in plural? Why is that?

[Patrick]

We are that which witnesses that inner dialogue.

Between who and who?

That thought generator just produces that inner dialog. The One and only spirit witnesses this. "You" have your own generator, but what witnesses it is exactly the same One spirit that witnesses "mine". Hence "we" are One.

How that One spirit creates the illusion of a separation in between generators and witnesser (or observed and observer)?  I have no idea and that is exactly how it's supposed to be IMHO.

The important part is realizing "we" are not just that thought generator. Otherwise we get in trouble. Since most people do not realize this, many are in trouble and because of the Law of Squares, we are then ALL in trouble.  

[Ming the Merciful]

The solution is simple. Stop thinking. That is not meant as a negative or sarcastic reply, but a positive reaction and solution. I am an advocate of Still Mind and come from the Zen tradition. Once we have learned to control the Mind, (and thinking), then all your problems will disappear. When there is no reason to think, don't think. The easiest thing is the hardest to find, inner stillness, (to quote the Buddha). Sometime i play such games, (as you are describing), or philosophical arguments with myself, and the whereby and wherefores in order to keep the Mind active. Yet, do I control my Mind, or does it control me. I am my own Master, or the servant to the Master? Self-discussions and self-philosophical discourses are good, (within reason), but they are not and end within themselves.

Skepticism could be considered a form of Spiritual Growth and advancement. Most of my life I have been a skeptic, because it gave me the strength to rebel against everything I was told to believe. In a sense, I have become the greatest skeptic, because in order to grow Spiritually, I denied everything. Even Zen must be destroyed. Perhaps the answer you are looking for is a "Controlled Skepticism". Reach your own conclusions and become a freethinker. Embrace everything and deny everything. As much as you are learning to walk the "Path", don't look back. If on the odd time you do, look back. Then do not be afraid to destroy your past. What has passed, has passed, and if you ever go back, it will never be the same. I know, I tried it. A foreigner in a foreign country.

[tadeus]

That thought generator just produces that inner dialog.

What is the sense of a "thought generator" ?

[tadeus]

The solution is simple. Stop thinking.
...
Once we have learned to control the Mind, (and thinking), then all your problems will disappear.
When there is no reason to think, don't think.

O.K. What is a reason to think?

[meadow-foreigner]

That thought generator just produces that inner dialog. The One and only spirit witnesses this. "You" have your own generator, but what witnesses it is exactly the same One spirit that witnesses "mine". Hence "we" are One.

The way you phrase it, it's as if the origin of thoughts is an artificial creation (i.e. a "generator") when in reality thoughts are creations by themselves.

How that One spirit creates the illusion of a separation in between generators and witnesser (or observed and observer)? I have no idea and that is exactly how it's supposed to be IMHO.

Amusingly enough, there might be more to that question than just rhetorical philosophical reasoning.

The important part is realizing "we" are not just that thought generator. Otherwise we get in trouble. Since most people do not realize this, many are in trouble and because of the Law of Squares, we are then ALL in trouble.  

Here's some food for thought: each and every thinking is a form of communication, just as the spoken verbal word. Whenever there is a dialogue, there's a conversation, just like there is a verbal conversation between two persons; however on a mental basis.

As for the identity of the participants: does it really matter, after all, comparing to the contents of the thoughts entertained? It might be your assigned guides, original SMC, or even pre-incarnative souls that embarked on this life along with you.

[Doomchief]

In my understanding the cessation of the inner dialogue is a tool for non-doing. The process leads to the non-doing of your own personality. While in this state one becomes "transparent" and dips into the eternal present moment where the intelligent infinity awaits the contact.
What would one perceive in this state is dependent upon polarisation, I think. If positive - the manifestation of the free will of others harmonised with the passive radiation of the seeker.
If consider oneself being a part of the Archetypical mind there's an opportunity to perceive the interplay of the Archetypes. For example the dynamics of the Matrix of the body. Of finding your conscious mind within the Devil, may I say

[Patrick]

That thought generator just produces that inner dialog. The One and only spirit witnesses this. "You" have your own generator, but what witnesses it is exactly the same One spirit that witnesses "mine". Hence "we" are One.

The way you phrase it, it's as if the origin of thoughts is an artificial creation (i.e. a "generator") when in reality thoughts are creations by themselves.

Maybe it could be called a thought catcher instead of a though generator. "What thought did you take today?" ~Ra  

How that One spirit creates the illusion of a separation in between generators and witnesser (or observed and observer)? I have no idea and that is exactly how it's supposed to be IMHO.

Amusingly enough, there might be more to that question than just rhetorical philosophical reasoning.

Please do elaborate! That sounds interesting.

The important part is realizing "we" are not just that thought generator. Otherwise we get in trouble. Since most people do not realize this, many are in trouble and because of the Law of Squares, we are then ALL in trouble.  

Here's some food for thought: each and every thinking is a form of communication, just as the spoken verbal word. Whenever there is a dialogue, there's a conversation, just like there is a verbal conversation between two persons; however on a mental basis.

As for the identity of the participants: does it really matter, after all, comparing to the contents of the thoughts entertained? It might be your assigned guides, original SMC, or even pre-incarnative souls that embarked on this life along with you.

I find myself thanking my "team" very often for the thoughts I get. It's obvious to me that "my" thoughts are not mine alone. With all the insights that pops in my head I would think myself very clever if I was not aware that it's not coming from me alone. Instead of seeing it as cleverness I see it as openness.

[Ozziwtf]

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[Patrick]

...This last thought is very interesting. I had several very weird situations where I felt like the other person reacted directly to my thoughts, and not what I actually just said, it was even a bit terrifying. How does this actually work? This would basically mean that a layer of communication is peeled off, and if that's true, then sometimes I'm hurting these people with my thoughts alone, which feels very awkward. Any advice on this matter ?  

This week, I had my very first telepathic communication. I was driving home with my son in the car with me and I was about to ask a question I had been formulating in my mind when he suddenly answered it exactly as if I had spoken the question out load. That was eerie for me, but for him nothing weird happened since he says he heard me asking.

[Ohr Ein Sof]

There are levels and layers of thought. What is generally meant by "stop thinking" is to silence the inner dialogue which everyone develops as they grow.

If there's a dialogue, there is more than one participant. Have you ever wondered who you talk to, using your mind?

We are that which witnesses that inner dialogue. We are basically using a thought generator to help create catalysts. This thing is not easy to turn off!

Who is the witness?

[the]

https://swaruu.org/transcripts/why-do-we...al-contact

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Yazhí: Robert, you ask if ideas are illusions. It also depends on your definition of illusion. I can argue that ideas are the only thing that is real. Because from there everything materializes. It is the basis of all creation. It may be the explanation why the soul seeks expansion. Simply because by nature it is unable to understand itself.
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[Dtris]

Here's some food for thought: each and every thinking is a form of communication, just as the spoken verbal word. Whenever there is a dialogue, there's a conversation, just like there is a verbal conversation between two persons; however on a mental basis.

As for the identity of the participants: does it really matter, after all, comparing to the contents of the thoughts entertained? It might be your assigned guides, original SMC, or even pre-incarnative souls that embarked on this life along with you.

This last thought is very interesting. I had several very weird situations where I felt like the other person reacted directly to my thoughts, and not what I actually just said, it was even a bit terrifying. How does this actually work? This would basically mean that a layer of communication is peeled off, and if that's true, then sometimes I'm hurting these people with my thoughts alone, which feels very awkward. Any advice on this matter ?  

Whenever you think about yourself, or someone else, you are directing energy. If you think good thoughts, you are projecting positive energy. If you think bad thoughts, you are projecting negative energy. Whether people are aware of the energy or thoughts consciously does not matter, we are all affected by the energy. This is partly why it is important to "do unto other as you have them do unto you." Negative thoughts can impede your own spiritual growth, and the negative energy must be countered with an equal amount of positive, before work can begin.

A very real and simple example is a person who has a negative attitude about learning a new skill. We all have witnessed someone who was trying to learn something but they made constant comments about how they were dumb, or unable to this, or will never get it, or they aren't coordinated, or not cut out for this. These thoughts then become reality. What people don't see is this effect on someone else. It can kind of be observed in sporting matches however. It is why there is a home team advantage, outside of the other reasons normally given.

The good news is that a single stray negative thought here or there isn't going to hurt anyone. People have natural protections against such energy as well. It becomes and issue when it is persistent. This is also similar to the buddhist concept of Merit. When you do good deeds, positive thought is directed at you, and it has ineffable effects.

[Patrick]

There are levels and layers of thought. What is generally meant by "stop thinking" is to silence the inner dialogue which everyone develops as they grow.

If there's a dialogue, there is more than one participant. Have you ever wondered who you talk to, using your mind?

We are that which witnesses that inner dialogue. We are basically using a thought generator to help create catalysts. This thing is not easy to turn off!

Who is the witness?

The One Infinite Creator.

[meadow-foreigner]

Amusingly enough, there might be more to that question than just rhetorical philosophical reasoning.

The important part is realizing "we" are not just that thought generator. Otherwise we get in trouble. Since most people do not realize this, many are in trouble and because of the Law of Squares, we are then ALL in trouble.  

Here's some food for thought: each and every thinking is a form of communication, just as the spoken verbal word. Whenever there is a dialogue, there's a conversation, just like there is a verbal conversation between two persons; however on a mental basis.

As for the identity of the participants: does it really matter, after all, comparing to the contents of the thoughts entertained? It might be your assigned guides, original SMC, or even pre-incarnative souls that embarked on this life along with you.

This last thought is very interesting. I had several very weird situations where I felt like the other person reacted directly to my thoughts, and not what I actually just said, it was even a bit terrifying. How does this actually work? This would basically mean that a layer of communication is peeled off, and if that's true, then sometimes I'm hurting these people with my thoughts alone, which feels very awkward. Any advice on this matter ?  

This is one of the signs of the rather unique composition of 3D (and also part 3D/4D) physical vehicles inhabiting a 4D planetary environment, such as Earth is currently. In other words, people live in physical vehicles with 3D hardware, so to speak; which dwell in a 4D planetary sphere.

The Law of One Session 6, January 24, 1981

6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to progression of the cycle at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.

6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately three oh, thirty [30], of your years.

6.18 Questioner: After this thirty-year period I am assuming we will be a fourth-dimension or fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so.

In other words, telepathy is a rather standard means of communication in a 4D environment. Mental communication bypasses language barriers and also spatial distances.

16.50 Questioner: Thank you. Is it possible for you to give a small description of the conditions [in] fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. We ask you to consider as we speak that there are no words for positively describing fourth density. We can only explain what is not and approximate what is. Beyond fourth density our ability grows more limited still until we become without words.

That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way.

Approximations of positive statements: it is a plane of a type of bipedal vehicle which is much denser and more full of life; it is a plane wherein one is aware of the thoughts of other-selves; it is a plane where one is aware of the vibrations of other-selves; it is a plane of compassion and understanding of the sorrows of third density; it is a plane striving towards wisdom or light; it is a plane wherein individual differences are pronounced although automatically harmonized by group consensus.

So, if you are presented with this kind of catalyst, it's a great source of understanding of your Self in relation to other-Selves.

The mechanism of how this works is rather simple: your thinking process is perceivable by other-Selves, not only by your Self. This causes these interaction peculiarities between you and others.

As in for the terrifying part: it is, really. The notion that there is no "privacy" in an ultimate sense and that your truest intentions can be felt — and at times even plainly openly perceived by other individuals — may shatter many preconceived 3D notions.

A piece of advice? Take this as an invitation for your total honesty and sincerity with yourself and with others, as much as you can muster, on a consistent basis. If you do feel your thoughts are hurtful to others, ask yourself why do you think them in the first place, and realize that the same may apply to you, oftentimes without your full awareness of it. Disharmony doesn't breed hurtful thoughts in a balanced environment.

Regardless, keep in mind that you think what you do because of your ontogenesis, which is more related to your development and balancing than to other-Selves that you interact with.

[meadow-foreigner]

That thought generator just produces that inner dialog. The One and only spirit witnesses this. "You" have your own generator, but what witnesses it is exactly the same One spirit that witnesses "mine". Hence "we" are One.

The way you phrase it, it's as if the origin of thoughts is an artificial creation (i.e. a "generator") when in reality thoughts are creations by themselves.

Maybe it could be called a thought catcher instead of a though generator. "What thought did you take today?" ~Ra  

How that One spirit creates the illusion of a separation in between generators and witnesser (or observed and observer)? I have no idea and that is exactly how it's supposed to be IMHO.

Amusingly enough, there might be more to that question than just rhetorical philosophical reasoning.

Please do elaborate! That sounds interesting.

In an ultimate (and rather abstract sense), all is one. All we experience may be framed as The One Infinite Creator experiencing the full extent of The Creation.

However, do note that you do have your uniqueness and your consciousness. And that there are multiple ways of experiencing this uniqueness, especially in a 3D environment, in regards to your relationship with other-Selves.

Thought communication is, in essence, comparable to verbal communication: there is the emitter and the receiver; with due respect to the fact that both are Selves; that is, you don't communicate with an echo chamber through telepathy, you actually send and receive thoughts in the form of linguistic messages, visual imagery, and so on.

To consider that the thoughts that come by your mind are solely perceived by you is naïve, from my current point of understanding. This is why I inquired you about your take on this seeming artificiality of the thinking process: there is much, much that can be learned from it; though one really needs a mind rid of preconceived notions or prejudice in order to truly benefit from it.

For instance: how would you clearly discern, in a practical sense, thoughts that come from you and thoughts that come to you? How would you deal with thoughts that are contrary to your expectations? How would you handle opposition in the daily affairs, in the sphere of your mind? How would you benefit from this new modus of communication? What would you communicate mentally, and what would you assimilate physically?

The topic is vast and can stem lots of really useful points of view, though it depends on the willingness of people to participate in it.

[Ebe]

For instance: how would you clearly discern, in a practical sense, thoughts that come from you and thoughts that come to you?

If I may, there is a way but it comes from solid self-knowledge. After years and years of self-listening and self-cleaning, I'm almost always aware of what is mine, what comes from the outside, figuratively speaking, and what comes from the inside. When in doubt, I always ask myself who is "speaking" and with which aim. If the aim is destructive, I dismiss the thought; if it is constructive, I give it some attention until I'm sure of its value.
I've got an uncommonly acute physical sensitivity, so it's almost a physical feeling but it's difficult to explain. I feel different physical sources/resonance point in my body and I can distinguish between my thoughts and intuitions and gifts offered to me as stepping stones towards a better and deeper inner life. If it's of someone's interest, I may give examples but I'm sure it's very personal.
What is crystal-clear is that couldn't be possible if I didn't work on me so hard. This work is constant and never-ending.

[tadeus]

I've got an uncommonly acute physical sensitivity, so it's almost a physical feeling but it's difficult to explain. I feel different physical sources/resonance point in my body and I can distinguish between my thoughts and intuitions and gifts offered to me as stepping stones towards a better and deeper inner life.

Can this be described like an outstanding observer, that observes the body, ego and mind?

[Ebe]

Can this be described like an outstanding observer, that observes the body, ego and mind?

Yes, in a way it can but there is no sense of division or otherness in it. It's like different me's at different levels.

[Diana]

...keep in mind that you think what you do because of your ontogenesis, which is more related to your development and balancing than to other-Selves that you interact with.

This is reflected in the following Ra quote:

80.11 ▶ Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the possible partial polarization towards service to self because simply the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind or like in the particular density which he inhabits?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

[meadow-foreigner]

...keep in mind that you think what you do because of your ontogenesis, which is more related to your development and balancing than to other-Selves that you interact with.

This is reflected in the following Ra quote:

80.11 ▶ Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the possible partial polarization towards service to self because simply the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind or like in the particular density which he inhabits?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

Yes, though I intended to emphasize more the awareness part than the likely process of dissociation, in the sense that one is aware of the sources of distortions of one's Self to the extent of being able to discern the sources of distortions that come from other-Selves.

Thus, regardless of the oneness that there is between the Self and other-Selves, there are multiple ways that this oneness can be expressed, which include first-hand experiences of all the individualized scintilla of every Self in any given density, which, in turn, occur because of the unique set of incarnational experiences that each Self has had accrued — in each of their own respective unique perspectives — until the present moment.

It is important to keep this discernment in mind for a number of reasons:

• So as to not offer unsolicited service to either the Self and/or to other-Selves;
• To not interfere with the Free Will of other-Selves;
• To improve one's compassion/understanding/love to either the Self and/or to other-Selves;
• To better handle catalysts given by the rather difficult 3D incarnational experiences to either the Self and/or to other-Selves;
• To more easily fully forgive either the Self and/or to other-Selves;
• To more clearly beacon forth the light of the unique wisdom that dwells inside one's within while also more appropriately gaining in knowledge/understanding/wisdom/light from other-Selves' experiences;
• And so on.

[tadeus]

Yes, in a way it can but there is no sense of division or otherness in it. It's like different me's at different levels.

Then we are talking about the same experience.

What you are describing as different levels is for me something like an zoom level, that shows everything either as an outer overview or more close in a detailed way.

[Ming the Merciful]

Hey everyone,
So my problem is the following. After reading through the material several times, and also reading up on the topic from other scriptures and finding many nuggets of information, i came to the conclusion that constant thinking distorts the reality around one. This is all fine and good. But then the real question is this: If I managed to meditate all throughout the day, and simply be present in the now, without reacting to stuff or distorting the energy coming through me by thinking, what am I going to see around me ? Because I notice more and more as I observe my thoughts more carefully that almost everything around me used to be a thought of mine, at some point in time, before I stumbled into it. So, if I managed to stop thinking, what would I see?
Thanks for all the answers in advance for helping me  

The simple answer is, you don't need to spend the whole day in Meditation, or living in the Moment. It is simpler to learn the "Art of Being" (in the Now). In other words, allow yourself to recognize the Inner Stillness, and control how you think. Do you think because the Mind is out of control, and the "Master", or do you think because you want to think? The perfect example. If I have nothing to discuss, (with myself), I don't have the discussion. In other words, controlling how I think. If there is nothing to discuss, stay silent. Allow the "Inner Reality" to decide when something needs to be discussed. Or, allowing Intuitive Mind to take precedence over Intellectual Mind. It sounds simple, although it takes practice. Once you have mastered the "Art of Being", it is the first step to Liberation.