Why exactly do negatives entities inevitably need to switch polarities?

[ANGEL]

I think the answer is much simpler than all of these things. That's not to say they aren't part of the equation too.

Bottom line is simple... they get very very lonely. Noone wants to be with or spend time with someone intending to and enjoying to cause you intense pain or literally take your inferior life. Lol This path thinks your love and loving nature is a weakness to exploit and then to destroy you with. They are God and if you do not see it , and show it with appreciation outwardly, they will gleefully remind you and you will suffer.

You are there to serve them and are an object. Objects do not have wishes and desires to consider... you take them out of your pocket and use it.

The definition of Love is far different for each path as well.

Ra said those on that path do not have the green ray energy center activated. They do not love the self either ..its an illusion, especially to themselves.They protect it to the death. Service of self does not mean loving the self. It appears that way indeed.

Noone likes to be totally controlled and used, berated, devalued, deceived and abused. Those higher entities are alone and empty.

My thoughts can easily be dismissed if they do not resonate with you.

[ANGEL]

I think the answer is much simpler than  all of these things. That's not to say they aren't part of the equation too.

Bottom line is simple... they get very very lonely.  Noone wants to be with or spend time with someone intending to and enjoying to cause you  intense pain or literally take your inferior  life. Lol  This path thinks your love and loving nature is a weakness to exploit and then to destroy you with.  They are God and if you  do not see it , and show it with appreciation outwardly,   they will  gleefully remind you and you will suffer.

You are there to serve them and are an object. Objects do not have wishes and desires to consider... you take them out of your pocket  and use it.  

The definition of Love  is far different for each path as well.

Ra said those on that path do not have the green ray energy center activated.  They do not love the self either ..its an illusion, especially to themselves.They protect it to the death. Service of self does not mean loving the self. It appears that way indeed tis true.

Noone likes to be totally controlled and used, berated, devalued, deceived and abused. Those higher entities are alone and empty.   They are us and my heart cries and bleeds and yearns to merge into the one. Ughhhh and ouch.

In an instant when one realizes we need each other , the path is changed. I'm sure their learning and moving will be accelerated. Just like it was in the Grinch. I mean No offense to anyone by the that statement.

My thoughts can easily be dismissed if they do not resonate with you.

[Navaratna]

As much as we don't like to accept it, you don't need to be morally perfect to grow spiritually.

[dexter101]

at mid-6th density polarity ceases to exist. its of no use trying to explain this to us third density humans. ra said it is impossible to even beginn to describe fourth density let alone the ones above it. the Ra material is intended to help people with harvest not help them debate about the philosophy of it all. you can think all you want in the end actions matter. let the mystery remain a mystery.

[SP1]

When a STS entity want to change polarity, do they have to redo 3rd density and start over or can they switch within the density they are currently in.

[Patrick]

When a STS entity want to change polarity, do they have to redo 3rd density and start over or can they switch within the density they are currently in.

Excellent question !

Ra seems to say that they have to redo the work, but it's not clear if that means they must start from 3D again.

Questioner: Then did they continue striving to polarize negatively for a fifth-density negative harvest or did they do something else?

Ra: I am Ra. They worked with the fourth-density negative for some period until, within this framework, the previously learned patterns of the self had been recaptured and the polarity was, with great effort, reversed. There was a great deal of fourth-density positive work then to be retraced.

But here they say that the switch is instantaneous, but that does not mean that the accumulated Karma is instantaneously released.  There might be work to do.

Questioner: Well, then let’s say that when Himmler, for instance, reaches sixth-density negative at the beginnings of sixth-density negative, at this time would it be [the] case that an entity would realize that his higher self is sixth-density positively oriented and for that reason make the jump from negative to positive orientation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution.

Questioner: I assume that an entity on either path can decide to choose paths at any time and possibly retrace steps, the path-changing being more difficult the farther along is gone. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.
Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.

[Aion]

As far as I understand you would only "lose a density" if you did it very shortly after 'graduating'. So if an entity just moved in to fourth-density negative, somehow suddenly decides it changes its mind I don't think it can go "further" in to fourth density to do that work but would have to do a great deal of third density work to make that switch because that's the only option really.

Alternatively, it's possible that such an entity might end up stuck on the 'lower fourth' levels and have to spend a great deal of time there in order to move on. In which case incarnation may actually be the 'faster' option. I think this scenario is preeetty unlikely or uncommon because I think the amount of effort put in to reach fourth density on either path is such a commitment that it would be kind of strange to just scrap that work, but I'm sure there are occurrences.

[flofrog]

Am i wrong or Ra seemed to speak mostly on negatives in 6th density who would have to switch to positive to pursue their growth ? Of course it doesn’t prevent negatives to switch before...

[Diana]

On an energetic level it becomes impossible to exist by shutting out other entities' thoughts, emotions, and their very being. The spiritual nature of 6d energy and on, carry connectivity inside them. Its inevitable. Therefore the negative entity must oblige by the nature of the vibration of the levels ahead it, and must accept all.

I think this is exactly what happens when a person's heart opens up enough to include (and consider just as important) other life forms and not just human life. And I hope this will happen in the transition to 4D.

[J.W.]

If negative don't switch, it will be alone... thus, going backward from the "original" intention of the infinite creator/universe.

If negative regress to the "origin" of the universe, this makes the negative energy/entity entire existence "pointless."

The initial "bang" and divergent of all "things" and "existence" is to figure out what "one" is. Negative polarity is a byproduct of this process, so in a way, it's own existence is to serve the purpose of understanding "oneness" and "unity."

This is why it is inevitable for it to switch to positive.

Negative polarity are basically "OPFOR" and sometimes, they play "OPFOR" a little too seriously and forgot that they are actually Coalition troops.

It's comedy really,

In the Creator's eyes, they see Positive and Negative Polarities as children playing "war games" in the snow, and when it's time to go inside, the children still throwing snowballs at each others and mocking one another... But... nobody stays outside.

[dexter101]

When a STS entity want to change polarity, do they have to redo 3rd density and start over or can they switch within the density they are currently in.

Excellent question !

Ra seems to say that they have to redo the work, but it's not clear if that means they must start from 3D again.

Questioner: Then did they continue striving to polarize negatively for a fifth-density negative harvest or did they do something else?

Ra: I am Ra. They worked with the fourth-density negative for some period until, within this framework, the previously learned patterns of the self had been recaptured and the polarity was, with great effort, reversed. There was a great deal of fourth-density positive work then to be retraced.

But here they say that the switch is instantaneous, but that does not mean that the accumulated Karma is instantaneously released.  There might be work to do.

Questioner: Well, then let’s say that when Himmler, for instance, reaches sixth-density negative at the beginnings of sixth-density negative, at this time would it be [the] case that an entity would realize that his higher self is sixth-density positively oriented and for that reason make the jump from negative to positive orientation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution.

Questioner: I assume that an entity on either path can decide to choose paths at any time and possibly retrace steps, the path-changing being more difficult the farther along is gone. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The further an entity has, what you would call, polarized, the more easily this entity may change polarity, for the more power and awareness the entity will have.
Those truly helpless are those who have not consciously chosen but who repeat patterns without knowledge of the repetition or the meaning of the pattern.

I think saying that after mid 6th density the negative has to switch to sto is a bit misleading. there is no polarity after 6th density. i think what Ra is trying to say is that the further down the path one is the easier it is to switch. someone who just switches from 4d sts to 4d sto has to relearn everything but someone from 6th sts has so much willpower they dont have to go trough it all again.

if you look at it objectively in the eyes of the creator both paths are exactly the same. it is simply the chosing of bias that occurs in 3rd density and goes on in the higher densities until the realization occurs that everything was just a big illusion and a false duality. in reality all is one.

i think trying to understand this in 3rd density is pointless. our brains alone in their physical form cant even handle the dimension of time.

[ANGEL]

I'm aware that the negative being begins to experience more and more amounts of "spiritual entropy" while trying to ascend in the sixth density, but I'm wondering why that is exactly. One assumption that I have is that, in order to value the Self over the Other, one must be able to distinguish between the Self and the Other, and that this perceived separation requires a veil of sorts and, in order to spiritually ascend higher and higher, all veils must eventually be abandoned.

Please see the following...: : I am Ra. This is incorrect. The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution.

Ra also said ( though I can't find the session number dang it) that the negative polarity must take its energy FROM creation itself. While the positive path draws its energy from source. Love is the creative principle in all things. The negative path rejects love and therefore source energy.

Therefore the answer is clear... at the higher level he looks around and can see the chaos and destruction, the emptiness we feel without love. Spiritually speaking he can finally grasp the truth that he can not continue taking from creation without destroying himself too.. Anyone who has ever known experience with this path would agree the words chaos and destruction are in the top 5 words to describe the affect they have had on other and all lives in and around them. We start on that path and when we, by the grace of the love of God, find the courage and strength to see ourselves in the light of truth, accept and forgive ourselves and others, can we allow the source inside to heal us and love ourselves. Only then will we be capable of loving anyone else. Let alone withstand the light eminating from a love like that. With out the experiences of what is not the love of source, we cannot appreciate the profound gift of love and imagine unity.
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This negative path is not. Please don't assume it is part of the creator just because he has created the possibility and place for it to exist. On this part I am speaking from myself which may be wrong and comes only from a place of knowing inside me. I think we all need to understand what is not, before we can know , understand and value ...what is! Perhaps this one point is why we have not found our way to the source yet... though I'm uncertain there too. I do not feel that balancing energies within ourselves means we are at the core capable of horrendous acts unless we choose what we are not. Unless we have chosen to be against our own creation and deny source love. In this way we therefore are not one, not until a choice to accept love has been made. Omg an epiphany ... I sound like a Christian kind of, in the salvation message! Which by the way , Jesus and love are exactly one. Lol who would have thunk?

Sorry lol rabbit chase...
Anywho , these are my thoughts and except for the last intrusion of thought paragraph, the answer given per Ra. Be blessed and be thinking...reflect and consider.

Ok , one more point I need to make very clear too.... the path is part of us all and I am convinced, since we are one, that the illusion of that path is a chosen way of serving the positive polarity as well as the negative, in the ways of profound and painful experience. A distortion chosen to serve us in learning how to love and understand what we are not. We are Responsible for how we choose to love. Its not easy that lesson, and not easy for them to wear the illusion distortions either. How we respond to the catalyst in the end is quite literally who we really are. I gotta say, a God may not be what I want to be, even though I am, but I can say, my creator is so deep and so smart , the thought of being close to him one day is starting to turn me very on!!! Lol laters baby!! Purring as I go.

[jafar]

Ra also said ( though I can't find the session number dang it) that the negative polarity must take its energy FROM creation itself. While the positive path draws its energy from source. Love is the creative principle in all things. The negative path rejects love and therefore source energy.

This I can concur based on my own personal experience.
It will be interesting to know what Ra said about the matter.

The only explanation that I found is the concept of "Loosh" as initially stated by Robert Monroe.
https://loosh.co.uk/spiritual-energy/

Although other tradition has other names for similar concept, Prana, Chi etc..
The negs are "Prana suckers",  and the Prana need to be in 'matching' frequency for their consumption.
They're not capable of consuming Green dominated Prana, or mid-boosted Prana frequency.
They love Red dominated Prana or low-boosted Prana frequency, they love the bass frequency.

I remember reading Ra's material that the negs choose to skip the Green chakra in order to activate the higher chakras.
Perhaps that's the reason.

That's also the reason why the negs usually 'do things' (put on a Halloween costume, make weird sounds etc..) to boost the fear emotion of their "Loosh / Prana source".

Anyone who has ever known experience with this path would agree the words chaos and destruction are in the top 5 words to describe the affect they have had on other  and all lives in and around them.

Yes I usually uses the metaphor of Call of Duty (COD) game to describe this.
What they want to experience are danger, fear, anger, victory, revenge etc...

Just like in COD where there MUST be at least two groups trying to shoot each other head so does the negative entities. They will always fractalize / regroup within themselves to form at least two competing groups trying to destroy each others. Because enemy must exist.

This negative path is not. Please don't assume it is part of the creator just because he has created the possibility and place for it to exist. On this part I am speaking from myself which may be wrong and comes only from a place of knowing inside me.

It's part of the creator as there's nothing that cannot be part of the creator.
And there is nothing that can serve something else than the creator.

In similitude, I don't understand why people love playing COD games so much.
But that doesn't mean that those people who love COD games are not part of our own self and/or should be forbidden and/or punished for playing COD.

But here's the plot twist..

It seems 6th density is the 'unification point' between pos (STO) and neg (STS) path.
Thus if Christian's conception of "The Devil" does exist, he is somehow trapped in 5th density and do not proceed further, don't know until when.

Beyond 6th density, it is actually the 'path of unlearning and destruction'.
What is being destroyed is the border that define the separation between the identity of "my / our own self" and "other self".

Because that is the only way to be unified with the infinite.

Thus all 'soul' or identity construct are actually temporary, in the end they will be destroyed in order to unite the consciousness inside the soul / identity construct to the infinite consciousness.

I think we all need to understand what is not,  before we can know , understand and value ...what is!

Yes we need the contrast to recognize a 'thing', in order to define the border of the 'thing' that separate the 'thing' with 'not the thing'. Through such process we 'know'.

That's the reason why beyond 6th it will start the process of 'unknowing', where the borders are being destroyed one by one in order to unite with the infinite. Back to initial state.

[Ymarsakar]

Jafar, you hit the mark again.

:The only explanation that I found is the concept of "Loosh" as initially stated by Robert Monroe.
https://loosh.co.uk/spiritual-energy/

Although other tradition has other names for similar concept, Prana, Chi etc..
The negs are "Prana suckers", and the Prana need to be in 'matching' frequency for their consumption.
They're not capable of consuming Green dominated Prana, or mid-boosted Prana frequency.
They love Red dominated Prana or low-boosted Prana frequency, they love the bass frequency.

I remember reading Ra's material that the negs choose to skip the Green chakra in order to activate the higher chakras.
Perhaps that's the reason.

That's also the reason why the negs usually 'do things' (put on a Halloween costume, make weird sounds etc..) to boost the fear emotion of their "Loosh / Prana source".:

At early sixth stage, the heart chakra is sealed or forbidden. Because opening up the heart activates the organic signal and the organic signal can take over and overcome the AI signal of sixth density intelligence/divinity. They have to constantly suppress the heart chakra in order to be negative and to maintain negative polarity. This is part of the self discipline. It is also why they do things like offer weird dilemmas "kill yourself, or kill the other person in the room". They are often stuck on stupid so to speask. Their choice is "farm other lower density civs for loosch or lower chakra energies, or open the heart and be taken over by the Borg Organic signal" as they often tell themselves. A very fear based motivation.

The reason why life force energy and the heart energy depolarizes the negative is two parts.

1. It prevents the negatives from controlling and repressing the heart chakra, thus opening them to the Organic Divinity signal, which transmutes them and raises their consciousness. The slave is now freed.

2. They have to exert a level of Divine power to counter the heart energy, thus they are losing Divine power with no way to regain it other than through vampiricism. That is actually what real vampiricism is about.

The way the Dark Divine works vs the Light Divine path is that the Dark Divine recirculates all pfrill and prana inside of themselves. They take in energy from others, but they never leak it out or radiate it or give it out. So they are a 100% hermetically sealed container, except for infusions of often stolen prana.

The Discipline and Willpower needed to maintain this state, is not something lesser minds can sustain for long. No human that has their name know, has ever been able to accomplish even a small fraction of it.

I recall reading parts of what I wrote on this thread before, although I have unlocked a lot more information on this subject since.

[jafar]

At early sixth stage, the heart chakra is sealed or forbidden. Because opening up the heart activates the organic signal and the organic signal can take over and overcome the AI signal of sixth density intelligence/divinity. They have to constantly suppress the heart chakra in order to be negative and to maintain negative polarity. This is part of the self discipline. It is also why they do things like offer weird dilemmas "kill yourself, or kill the other person in the room". They are often stuck on stupid so to speask. Their choice is "farm other lower density civs for loosch or lower chakra energies, or open the heart and be taken over by the Borg Organic signal" as they often tell themselves. A very fear based motivation.

The reason why life force energy and the heart energy depolarizes the negative is two parts.

1. It prevents the negatives from controlling and repressing the heart chakra, thus opening them to the Organic Divinity signal, which transmutes them and raises their consciousness. The slave is now freed.

2. They have to exert a level of Divine power to counter the heart energy, thus they are losing Divine power with no way to regain it other than through vampiricism. That is actually what real vampiricism is about.

Thanks Ymarsakar

Your description answered my curiosity on the 'why' the negs are behaving as such.

Based on my observation,
They do form a kind of group, I don't know whether it can be categorized as "Social Memory Complex" as well, because the structure of their group is more of hierarchical. Master-SubMaster(SubSlave)-Bottom Slave and every slave is bonded by fear of their upward master. Every Slave both hate and fear their Master, and if opportunity arises to overthrow the master, the slaves will definitely took that chance.

Regarding "Loosh" / "Life Energy", do they share 'gathered' Loosh upward as well?
From slave to master and the master to their upward master and beyond?

I never actually watch / experienced this but I got the sense such mechanism exist within their group.

Because it seems the master prefer to put the 'lower ranking slave' up front first to gather the "Loosh". As they can tolerate more of "Green frequency prana" more than the higher ranking master. The lower ranking slave can then act as "Filtration / Processing Engine" to refine the gathered loosh/prana towards purer lower / red frequency loosh / prana for their consumption. The way to ignite the filtration / purification process of the loosh/prana is to torture the slave, thus igniting fear / anger emotion within the slave.

The way the Dark Divine works vs the Light Divine path is that the Dark Divine recirculates all pfrill and prana inside of themselves. They take in energy from others, but they never leak it out or radiate it or give it out. So they are a 100% hermetically sealed container, except for infusions of often stolen prana.

By themselves here you mean within their group or social memory complex?
As mentioned above?

The Discipline and Willpower needed to maintain this state, is not something lesser minds can sustain for long. No human that has their name know, has ever been able to accomplish even a small fraction of it.

Yes it must be very hard to continuously suppressed the green chakra...

[Ymarsakar]

The hierarchy you witness is lower 4th negative to 5th negative. They tend to have a slave plantation system. Oversees. Massas.

Some slaves have preferred status.

At the higher limits of dark divine, the chakras refine the energy independently. And even heart compassion can be leeched via a simple 5th chakra trick. Pretend to be a charity.


A lot of the entities that look or sound like demons, are extremely low on the hierarchy.

This topic should not make people afraid, but people are afraid ofnthe unknown. They give away their power. And thus they are enslaved by these fears.

Certain testimonies of earth s secret dark ops talk aboit loosh and dracos offering tribute to their gods. 80% of it goes up.

Higher negs use lower negs for safety. Because it prevents certain factions, like me, from lockijg unto their energy signature and paying them a visit.

You can remotely prank people via a drone. Easier not to get retaliated.

By themselves i mean one entity s chakra systems.

Only weaker civs need this complicated farm business.

The difficulty is generally not allowing any energy to leak out. 100% recycle.

I know of a video clip that is a good image.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBDD0A7C944F2AD64

I cannot find the fight clip. It is in episode 1 where the black nodos giant pulls in the force energies of all enemies and uses it to power up a blast. Maybe it was ep2. Cannot remember. A good series about metaphysical psionics too.

[jafar]

The hierarchy you witness is lower 4th negative to 5th negative. They tend to have a slave plantation system. Oversees. Massas.

Some slaves have preferred status.

A lot of the entities that look or sound like demons, are extremely low on the hierarchy.

This topic should not make people afraid, but people are afraid ofnthe unknown. They give away their power. And thus they are enslaved by these fears.

Higher negs use lower negs for safety. Because it prevents certain factions, like me, from lockijg unto their energy signature and paying them a visit.

Thanks YMarsakar

This is what I've experienced in one of my AP session.

I encountered a ghostly figure, looks like a girl, but her make out is quite hazy, white linen with transparent appearance, the emotion that I sense from her are fear, doubt and sadness but no anger at all.

She instantly bite the tips of my fingers, I then saw that my hands and my entire body is all glowing white light, for me it doesn't hurt, it was more of ticklish feelings, and I saw that my white glowing fingers are cut off. But not for long, all of sudden it grew back to the full state.

I then approached her,
Me: You bite me?
Her: Yes.. I'm sorry. (I can sense more fear and sadness emotion from her)
Me: I'm your favorite food?
Her: No... My favorite food was actually fried noodles, but that was before this, now I ate human.
Me: You were human once? When did you die?
(Somehow I actually can sense this already from the beginning, that's why I'm not angry at all at her)
Her: 2012, again I'm sorry, I don't like to do this, I was told to do this by my master.
Me: Your master? Where is he? Take me to him!

< The scenery instantly change, there I saw another odd figure, black fur all around, fangs here and there, with red big eyes. I actually start to be pissed off at this stage, not at her, but at her master. And look like the master is surprised and not pleased to see me as well >

Master: You stupid slave! Why are you bringing him here!
Her: He said he wanted to see you!
Master: You are so stupid! I will kill you for this!

I can sense more fear from the slave, she's now starting to cry and scream.

Me: Killing her? What are you talking about? She's dead already!

Now I can sense comfort and more like 'eureka' emotions coming from the slave, the thought inside of her is something like "Yeah, he's right! I'm already dead!"

The master become more angry, now he focus his attention at me.
I can sense that a fight with the master is inevitable.
I imagined a sword, and viola, a sword appear on my right hand, white glowing sword just like my body.
The master start to attack and with one stroke it's all over.

The scenery changes again in an instant and I return back to conscious state.

On future occasions, 'the slave' came to me again, but she appear in much better state, beautiful in white glowing body, she 'came' to me just to say thank you. I advise her to 'move up' to a better plane, but I can sense that she's already in better plane as the scenery this time is more beautiful than our previous meeting and her appearance is radically much better this time.

As for me the experience doesn't stop there as it seems that her 'master' is escalating the events upward of his hierarchy. I was 'visited' by more odd figures, on every occasion the same thing happened, fight, I imagined something as a weapon, the weapon appears, I struck them and it's over.

Basically everything that I imagined just instantly appear, the weapon being imagined actually doesn't matter, I imagined a lolly pop and strike them using lolly pop and it's also effective. I imagined a bright shining light to fill the scenery, it also instantly appear and the fight is over.

I share this story thus the readers will not feel afraid of any negs, regardless of their hierarchy / density.
Heart chakra indeed contain creation energy.
What the negs trying to do is make you feel afraid / fear, if you don't succumb to your own fear there's nothing that they can do to you. Use the fear as catalyst for you to find courage.

Certain testimonies of earth s secret dark ops talk aboit loosh and dracos offering tribute to their gods. 80% of it goes up.

So indeed it is a kind of 'tributary structure', 80% tax rate what a crook.
Well they're hierarchy of crooks anyway..
And who are this 'gods' of the dracos?

At the higher limits of dark divine, the chakras refine the energy independently. And even heart compassion can be leeched via a simple 5th chakra trick. Pretend to be a charity.

This is interesting, maybe you can kindly explain more on this?

Only weaker civs need this complicated farm business.
The difficulty is generally not allowing any energy to leak out. 100% recycle.

By weaker civs you mean 'weaker neg civs'?
And how does the stronger civs get their supply of 'loosh' / 'life energy'?

I know of a video clip that is a good image.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBDD0A7C944F2AD64

I cannot find the fight clip. It is in episode 1 where the black nodos giant pulls in the force energies of all enemies and uses it to power up a blast. Maybe it was ep2. Cannot remember. A good series about metaphysical psionics too.

I tried to access the link but it's unavailable now.
Maybe you have other links?

[Ymarsakar]

Imagine me popping up next time. Every time yoi tell thisbstory it is hilariously fun

You can watch heroic age on amazon prime, funimation free and maybe crunchrolly free

Yes weaker neg civs and individuals like most stuff humans talk about. Black magic.

Higher density gets it without a fight. Like a contract. Or they extract it out of their own lower chakra fight and suffering.

Imagine a crusader that thinks they are on the right side. Faith sustains them.

Due to the law of confusion, i cannot or will not explain more about dark divine chakra cultivation. I can explain the light side version.

[jafar]

Imagine me popping up next time. Every time yoi tell thisbstory it is hilariously fun

Sure, thank you, always love to have you putting in your thought on any topic..

Yes weaker neg civs and individuals like most stuff humans talk about. Black magic.

By weaker neg civs, you mean including the ladies and gentlemen being listed here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_de...Ars_Goetia

Higher density gets it without a fight. Like a contract. Or they extract it out of their own lower chakra fight and suffering.

Imagine a crusader that thinks they are on the right side. Faith sustains them.

By 'higher neg density' you mean the 5th in Ra's definition of density?

Not yet sure, but I got the 'sense' that Mr Ra mapped out "Prana Body" / "Astral Body" as 4th density. I might be mistaken though.

As mentioned, any layering of bodies / identity construct is not eternal, as such that Prana Body / Astral Body is not eternal either. That's the reason why Yogic tradition always put the label "Maya" (Virtual) on their naming of layering of bodies.

When then consciousness has 'let go' of their Prana Body Sheathing they might no longer need for supply of Prana / Life energy to sustain their body.

Some people call this layer of body after letting go of the Prana / Astral body as "Mental Body", not yet sure whether this mapped out to Ra's 5th density body.

Due to the law of confusion, i cannot or will not explain more about dark divine chakra cultivation. I can explain the light side version.

Be happy to hear your thought about light side chakra cultivation as well.

[Ymarsakar]

"By weaker neg civs, you mean including the ladies and gentlemen being listed here?"

Those aren't even civilizations, even lower. Like AI programs.

What is your question about cultivation?

:By 'higher neg density' you mean the 5th in Ra's definition of density?"

Late 5th to early 6th.

[Black Dragon]

Some of what you'd consider demons are 4d SMC's, 5d beings, etc. Many are not even that, but lower astral thought form entities. Tulpa, Djinn, etc. So yes, in other words very much like AI programs. These lower entities try to mimic other forms to elicit certain responses. They can appear as an angel, a reptilian, and ET, ghost of a person, etc.

[Ymarsakar]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)

Computer programmers were sometimes called wizards or wizzes.

This is not a coincidence.

The greek socratic daemon was spirit guides

To give an idea of the scale difference between early and middle density.

Telos is middle 4.4.4 density civ. United states or first world nation with welfare, is 4.2.3 or 4.3.2 density civ if internet and spiritual practice is added for heart compassion. Early 4th.

Do you see the gap between early 4th and mid 4th? Hence late 4th and late 5th is seperated not by 1 density ornplane but several stages and realms.

[jafar]

Some of what you'd consider demons are 4d SMC's, 5d beings, etc. Many are not even that, but lower astral thought form entities. Tulpa, Djinn, etc. So yes, in other words very much like AI programs. These lower entities try to mimic other forms to elicit certain responses. They can appear as an angel, a reptilian, and ET, ghost of a person, etc.

There are also 'a type' of being, who seems to be un-intelligent and kind of trap in a 'repeated loop'.
Usually this relate to a 'trauma' that once experienced by a fully conscious being. (suicide, accident, murder, mass murder).
My understanding of "AI Program" related to the above type of being or should I say 'remnant of pranic energy'.
And it will also decay.. not eternal...

Can you elaborate more on "astral thought form entities"?
Are they fully conscious?
Do they still maintain a 'link' with the one who 'thought it out' initially?
What is their 'life cycle'?

As for "Ghost of a person", a human once physical body become dysfunctional, will shift it's consciousness focus towards the Astral / Pranic body / identity.
When it has no attachment to anything it will not linger for a long time, it will then 'move up' and evolve further (life review session etc..)

When it sill has an 'attachment' it might linger around in the 'lower astral' trying to keep it's 'identity' and might fell into a 'trap' set by other astral entities (ie negative entities). The human's astral body is fully conscious, and not an empty shell or AI. It might lost it's 'discernment capability' provided by the physical brain but it's definitely not an AI.

This explanation provided by Sadhguru correlate well with my personal experience of interacting with such 'human astral identity'.

[Ymarsakar]

"And who are this 'gods' of the dracos?"

5th density entities likely.

[jafar]

"And who are this 'gods' of the dracos?"

5th density entities likely.

Does this material resonate with you?


I have no comment on this, never met any dracos.

[Ymarsakar]

I have heard about warlocks and shamans "riding dragons" and using black dragons to transmute the darkness.

I myself don't any personal experience on this.

In my research, shapeshifting dragons were the Eastern serpent flyer, breathing fire. Which was once called a seraphim in bible. Elohim vs seraphim.

Looking at the legends of humanity, there is indeed some type of "dragon flyer", but these are not the humanoid draconians or Ciakar. These may be the lizards wiped out by that asteroid created by negative factions.

[Black Dragon]

"And who are this 'gods' of the dracos?"

5th density entities likely.

I'm thinking one or more 5th density "Grey" groups and/or Aldebaran Nordics, also other 5d+ negative reptilian races.

[Black Dragon]

Some of what you'd consider demons are 4d SMC's, 5d beings, etc. Many are not even that, but lower astral thought form entities. Tulpa, Djinn, etc. So yes, in other words very much like AI programs. These lower entities try to mimic other forms to elicit certain responses. They can appear as an angel, a reptilian, and ET, ghost of a person, etc.

There are also 'a type' of being, who seems to be un-intelligent and kind of trap in a 'repeated loop'.
Usually this relate to a 'trauma' that once experienced by a fully conscious being. (suicide, accident, murder, mass murder).
My understanding of "AI Program" related to the above type of being or should I say 'remnant of pranic energy'.
And it will also decay.. not eternal...

Can you elaborate more on "astral thought form entities"?
Are they fully conscious?
Do they still maintain a 'link' with the one who 'thought it out' initially?
What is their 'life cycle'?

As for "Ghost of a person", a human once physical body become dysfunctional, will shift it's consciousness focus towards the Astral / Pranic body / identity.
When it has no attachment to anything it will not linger for a long time, it will then 'move up' and evolve further (life review session etc..)

When it sill has an 'attachment' it might linger around in the 'lower astral' trying to keep it's 'identity' and might fell into a 'trap' set by other astral entities (ie negative entities). The human's astral body is fully conscious, and not an empty shell or AI. It might lost it's 'discernment capability' provided by the physical brain but it's definitely not an AI.

This explanation provided by Sadhguru correlate well with my personal experience of interacting with such 'human astral identity'.

I do not know what some more in the know in occult fields would about technical aspects of thought forms. My intuition doubts that they are fully conscious, but like AI programs. I don't know what their life cycle is. They will always be saved in Akashic memory but it does not mean they are actually conscious in the way that enspirited beings are conscious. I think a good modern day correlation besides AI is what people often call poltergeists. Perhaps the thought form is actually like an astral body or shell and it can be used or "incarnated" into by an actual spirit on some occasions. Who knows.

[Black Dragon]

"And who are this 'gods' of the dracos?"

5th density entities likely.

Does this material resonate with you?


I have no comment on this, never met any dracos.

It does resonate. I'm getting more a consciousness of very angelic beings that aren't completely tied to this particular octave, rather than humanoid dragon races. These angelic ones would have devic forms that look like actual mythological dragons. I believe that the reptilian races in our galaxy have a link to these dragons but part of them became corrupted(like everyone else in this free will illusion really). There are also some benevolent humanoid reptilian races. I know some about Earth being the birthplace of ancient humanoid reptilians that are probably the ancestors of these Draco troublemakers. I can post what I know and theorize about all that here or in PM. It's quite a bit.

[jafar]

I do not know what some more in the know in occult fields would about technical aspects of thought forms. My intuition doubts that they are fully conscious, but like AI programs. I don't know what their life cycle is.

Found this from Sadhguru as well, it seems 'creation of thought forms being' is among the 'feature' of Green Chakra (Sanksrit: Annahata)

I think a good modern day correlation besides AI is what people often call poltergeists. Perhaps the thought form is actually like an astral body or shell and it can be used or "incarnated" into by an actual spirit on some occasions. Who knows.

Poltergeist, The Prana/Chi/Life energy is well known to also be used to move physical object, when channeled and focused properly.


Negative astral entities (Demons et. al) has been reported to perform similar effects with their (low frequency) prana energy, thus the term 'Poltergeist' usually refer to moving physical object through Prana energy performed only by negative astral entities. Usually with objective to instill fear towards the spectator of such phenomenon. And when the 'source' is in fear, their Prana energy will become suitable for consumption.

But they have a big handicap to perform such act, due to the fact that they're "Prana / Loosh sucker" and moving physical objects using Prana requires tremendous amount of energy. One act of "Poltergeising" might resulted in spending big amount of of Low Frequency Prana that has been leeched for a long time and they might become 'weak' after performing such act.