Feminism is about a 5 year old, thought.

[BastionPath]

Clearly defining Feminism is super important I feel.

If it's against men for women, then it's obviously negative.

If it's supporting women in the face of the strength of man, then it's highly positive.

One lowers everyone, while the other complements.

[Merrick]

Clearly defining Feminism is super important I feel.

If it's against men for women, then it's obviously negative.

If it's supporting women in the face of the strength of man, then it's highly positive.

One lowers everyone, while the other complements.

That’s the thing, women are calling for equality. Some (many) men are viewing this as women being against men. We see the same thing with racism in the US. A group comes together to defend the lives of black people who are gunned down by the police, they call themselves Black Lives Matter, and reactionaries are aghast and think that’s some militant call to arms, that only black lives matter, and so come up with the counterslogan “all lives matter”. The elites meanwhile are giddy because people are so easily divided.

If we all stood in solidarity together, instead of fighting for scraps of social status and meager resources, we could make major positive change in this world. Instead we get foolishness like women shouldn’t be cops or feminism is akin to the thinking of a five year old child. Holier than thou defensive condescending men telling women how good they actually have it and it’s men who are the real victims. It’s so predictable that it’s sad.

[Infinite]

Second Q'uo, our society is a patriarchal society:

Within the culture which you now enjoy, for instance, the male qualities of power and wisdom are seen to be, shall we say, more than equal to the more archetypical feminine qualities, and to that extent the society is impoverished by losing the close working or partnership of societal male and female. This may be seen to reflect the archetypical choice of conquering the subconscious by strength, no matter how brutally used, rather than by courtship. In a heavily matriarchal society, however, the same imbalance would exist, but those powers of physical and emotional toughness and intellectual strengths, or logical strengths, may be seen to be forced into a prostituted roughness.

Thusly, neither the matriarchal nor the patriarchal model for societal balance is accurate. The appropriate model for third-density illusion, however, may be seen not to matter in society nearly as much as in the individual, for it is the individual which is now choosing how to express love in relationship to others. The reason this query about balance between male and female is central is that it is in wisely, compassionately using this balance that an entity, whether male or female, may wend its way more and more to the “golden mean,” the middle of the path of truth wherein, by becoming more and more whole within, the path becomes more and more telling and interesting as well as more productive.

I agree with Q'uo and also agree that we don't need a matriarchal society, but a society where both the genres are balanced. Feminism is not about creates a matriarchal society, it's about balance a situation that is unbalanced.

The first point is understand that the society is unbalanced towards the masculine principle. That's true? Looking to story of oppression of the women and that they had to conquest basic rights, I believe there is no doubt about this.

Second, let's think in the very subtle nature of everything: unity. Everything is one. If this is true, nothing can be abomined, the unity is made by a natural and unconditional compassion. The STO path is seek this compassion. So, a STO entity love everything and seek balance. But, to a spiritual seeker, there is two ways of acting: isolate yourself from the society roles and dramas, or engage yourself in a some kind of activism and social justice. Ghandi is one of the best examples of this, as Q'uo said here:

We are aware of the one known as Mahatma Ghandi. He is one who traveled the road of seeking both spiritual enlightenment and social justice. Indeed, few in the history of your planet have traveled this road more successfully. He took on the British Empire, my friends, and he won. India became free. When he would meet with his advisors the night before the day of meeting with social, political, spiritual and community leaders, they would plan the day, and if the day was promising to be a long one, he would simply say, “I must arise earlier to meditate longer.” Do not refuse to use any tool that you have, my friends, as long as you use these tools in love, in light, in consideration of the fact that you deal only with the Creator, no matter what the face may present itself to you.

So, I don't judge the seekers who don't seek social justice at the same time as spiritual enlightenment. Our world is very confused and hard to understand and this produces much catalyst to deal and balance. But, is dangerous become alienated from the society and act unconscious as an "Agent Smith" that reinforces the mechanisms of matrix.

It's hard find balance in a world with so many illusions and distortions, but my brothers and sisters, we don't need engage ourselves in activism or any social movement, but to seek don't feed thinkings, views, perspectives and systems that preach the separation.

I'm really so sorry to say that but is my humble opinion: the vast majority of the right wing politics is derived from a STS perspective. I don't is saying that left wing is perfect but the beliefs and the natural philosophy of the right wing is negative. Why? The basis of right wing is create or maintain elites. The brothers of right wing believe in the law of jungle. That's the same perspective of 4D STS planets. The strongest naturally must go to the top of hierarchy. A STO social memory complex see everyone as one. I really don't understand why this is so hard to spiritualists understand. Even the "liberal" economic politics creates an elite, because without regulation by the State, the most rich become more rich and without help of State the poorest people become more poor. If you don't like of pay taxes and don't like of a society where everyone works to good of all, you don't understood the green-ray energies. The green-ray energy is about unconditional love and free sharing. Otherwise, selfishness and believe in hierarchy and the law of the julgle are manifestations and characteristics of orange and yellow rays, naturally present in a STS social memory complex.

Thus, I just call to think in the role of the women on this planet. Just don't belive in straw man fallacies that try change what feminism means. Feminism don't desire create a matriarchal society. Feminism is a natural try and legimite movement to balance the things. STO entities seek balance. However, I respect the free will of everyone and my words are my humble impressions of my inner (badwriting I know because english isn't my first language). You are free to accept or reject.

[Merrick]

Infinite, I agree with everything you said! An excellent perspective that looks beyond one single feeling or individual moment in space/time.

[speedforce131]

A group comes together to defend the lives of black people who are gunned down by the police, they call themselves Black Lives Matter, and reactionaries are aghast and think that’s some militant call to arms, that only black lives matter, and so come up with the counterslogan “all lives matter”. The elites meanwhile are giddy because people are so easily divided.

Black Lives Matter is funded by the elites that you love so much. If you were so equal and loving, then you'd support Asian activism as well, but because we aren't front and center (the media has a part to do with that), we get atrocities on the level of, or worse than black people, and it goes on ignored. The whole social justice thing is fake. For if it was real social justice, it would be to the benefit of all. Instead, it is another path where the elites use to turn the system upside down, and seek to further divide people.

Instead we get foolishness like women shouldn’t be cops or feminism is akin to the thinking of a five year old child.

Well at least you're not LARPing as a wanderer anymore LMAO! Good to know you accept that you're one of many 3rd density inhabitants. I do recognize that you're on the path to learning and I applaud such efforts. To be behind the veil, to forget your true self, is also to be lost. But in that journey of being lost, you find opportunities for growth.

I'm not saying that women shouldn't be cops. But women in western society, where crime is much more vicious, the men are equally more vicious, women are ill equipped to handle the job at a peak ideal level. You say that what I say is foolishness however say that when a criminal gets away, or say that when the female officer loses her life because people like you told them that they could do it because equality. Your viewpoint is abound in compassion but lacks wisdom. Women are better suited to be cops in the East (Asia), where crime is much more lower, the severity of crime is lower, and where brute force is not necessary because those types of crimes are not perpetuated over there. Everything is okay in it's time and place.

Holier than thou defensive condescending men telling women how good they actually have it and it’s men who are the real victims. It’s so predictable that it’s sad.

Who is more holier than thou? Trying to use social justice against me, to use your position against me to say that you're better than me and that my points don't matter? Give me a break. I've dealt with people like you before. 1000's of times.

[Spaced]

Yikes, what a piece of work

[Merrick]

A group comes together to defend the lives of black people who are gunned down by the police, they call themselves Black Lives Matter, and reactionaries are aghast and think that’s some militant call to arms, that only black lives matter, and so come up with the counterslogan “all lives matter”. The elites meanwhile are giddy because people are so easily divided.

Black Lives Matter is funded by the elites that you love so much. If you were so equal and loving, then you'd support Asian activism as well, but because we aren't front and center (the media has a part to do with that), we get atrocities on the level of, or worse than black people, and it goes on ignored. The whole social justice thing is fake. For if it was real social justice, it would be to the benefit of all. Instead, it is another path where the elites use to turn the system upside down, and seek to further divide people.

Instead we get foolishness like women shouldn’t be cops or feminism is akin to the thinking of a five year old child.

Well at least you're not LARPing as a wanderer anymore LMAO! Good to know you accept that you're one of many 3rd density inhabitants. I do recognize that you're on the path to learning and I applaud such efforts. To be behind the veil, to forget your true self, is also to be lost. But in that journey of being lost, you find opportunities for growth.

I'm not saying that women shouldn't be cops. But women in western society, where crime is much more vicious, the men are equally more vicious, women are ill equipped to handle the job at a peak ideal level. You say that what I say is foolishness however say that when a criminal gets away, or say that when the female officer loses her life because people like you told them that they could do it because equality. Your viewpoint is abound in compassion but lacks wisdom. Women are better suited to be cops in the East (Asia), where crime is much more lower, the severity of crime is lower, and where brute force is not necessary because those types of crimes are not perpetuated over there. Everything is okay in it's time and place.

Holier than thou defensive condescending men telling women how good they actually have it and it’s men who are the real victims. It’s so predictable that it’s sad.

Who is more holier than thou? Trying to use social justice against me, to use your position against me to say that you're better than me and that my points don't matter? Give me a break. I've dealt with people like you before. 1000's of times.

I never said I was a wanderer. There are aspects of myself that coincide with descriptions of wanders and aspects of me that deviate. I think spending inordinate amounts of time wondering whether I’m a wanderer or not is beside the point, my soul needs to evolve regardless and I want to do good for all. One need not be a wanderer for that.

As to the rest, I’m not here to please you. I’m here to learn/teach as best I can. And from your posts I’m currently learning what excessive wisdom over love looks like, or at least attempts at wisdom. It’s an excellent reminder in the need for humility, and gives me an example of what to avoid on my own path. Excessive love over wisdom can also be a problem, and I may very well be exhibiting love over wisdom currently.

So I thank you for what you are imparting, even if I disagree with the majority of the content you’re posting.

[speedforce131]

I agree with Q'uo and also agree that we don't need a matriarchal society, but a society where both the genres are balanced. [u][b]Feminism is not about creates a matriarchal society, it's about balance a situation that is unbalanced.

I agree with you however you are not saying anything that I have not said.

It's hard find balance in a world with so many illusions and distortions, but my brothers and sisters, we don't need engage ourselves in activism or any social movement, but to seek don't feed thinkings, views, perspectives and systems that preach the separation.

Again, I've already repeated this multiple times throughout the thread. I appreciate that you recognize these things and that we are in agreement. I am happy for that, but in this situation, one side will not listen no matter what. There's only a few that did listen and surprise surprise, I can see that the concepts of LOO are not lost on them and I'd be proud to be among other wanderers like them.

I'm really so sorry to say that but is my humble opinion: the vast majority of the right wing politics is derived from a STS perspective.

Okay here's where your comments became weak. This is the same type of polarization that's present in all politics and when you start to take sides, you also become polarized because you are not looking at it in a balanced way. It's not a simple issue.

https://www.diffen.com/difference/Left_W...g#Morality

On Economic Policy, here is what it says for right wing

Lower taxes; less regulation on businesses; reduced government spending; balanced budget.

Is that service to self?

Oppose government-provided universal healthcare and the Affordable Care Act. Favor competition to Medicare from private insurance companies; oppose Medicaid expansion.

Is that service to self? It's not all that it seems because the ACA is socialism and I can tell you from my friends experience that this system is STS. He's a staunch Democrat too. But he knows from experience that he's paying into the ACA, he gets the basic services that he doesn't even need, meanwhile a bigger family, just because they have a family, get premium and better/more services then he does while PAYING THE SAME COST. How is that not service to self? It's government mandated that you HAVE to pay into the system. So these people are forcing people like my friend (who is single and single household) to pay into the system so that other people can benefit off of him.

Now Republicans are in a difficult spot where if they pull the ACA, they are also pulling people who need the system. An action that does not contain compassion. However the system itself also lacks compassion and that is compassion for the individual worker. So to call one system over the other STS or STO is not very accurate. You cannot look at it like that. It is a difficult balance that must be achieved, even if it seems STS.

[Glow]

This has been a wild ride. To put yourself above others is always ego. Not soul. Both valid but let’s be real about who within is pushing which agenda.

Whether talking belittlingly about another’s wanderer status, thinking one is the most learned spiritually or as a remote viewer, or whatever it’s all ego and all pointing towards why this feminism thing is rejected so fully. A clear feeling of superiority. Which again is ego.

So talk is kind of useless about any of this stuff because you see yourself as the one who knows all and has all the answers.

It’s interesting because there is no one answer, creation is infinite and as such the answers are and will be infinite. Invalidating another self seems an odd aspect for a sto wanderer since we know all is one. That’s kind of the entire point of this thread. Not electing to continue down the path of imbalance between the sexes, yet here trying to create imbalance by belittling others wanserer status and spiritual accomplishments.

It is kind of a sad thread.

I’m out. I know you all are doing your best, and I appreciate you guys working together to face some serious biases present in the collective human consciousness. I am not needling to watch any further but love to you on both sides of this discussion. Obviously it is one that really is needed so our shadow can see light.

[speedforce131]

And from your posts I’m currently learning what excessive wisdom over love looks like, or at least attempts at wisdom.

Well I'm glad to be of service in any capacity. It may look like excessive wisdom over love, however what you do not understand is that I also possess excessive love and I express this on a daily basis. That excessive love comes from the unconditional love that God programmed me with. The type of spirit that I am is extremely rare in creation.

[Merrick]

And from your posts I’m currently learning what excessive wisdom over love looks like, or at least attempts at wisdom.

Well I'm glad to be of service in any capacity. It may look like excessive wisdom over love, however what you do not understand is that I also possess excessive love and I express this on a daily basis. That excessive love comes from the unconditional love that God programmed me with. The type of spirit that I am is extremely rare in creation.

I realize we are now wildly off topic, but you believe yourself to be this one person Q’uo refers to?

[speedforce131]

To put yourself above others is always ego.

Hilarious that you say this because each person who argued with me put themselves over me, whereas I put the Confederation and facts above all else.

Whether talking belittlingly about another’s wanderer status, thinking one is the most learned spiritually or as a remote viewer, or whatever it’s all ego and all pointing towards why this feminism thing is rejected so fully. A clear feeling of superiority. Which again is ego.

Hilarious because I see YOUR EGOS all over the place. I may come across as very learned in the spiritual space and I am indeed a remote viewer. This is unique to my experience that I share with you. I only mention these things because you have someone in front of you who knows. Who has the contained knowledge of many things that you may need at this time. Instead of poking and prodding, withdrawing the love and wisdom that I have to offer, you want to stick to your limited belief systems that you've become so enmeshed in.

Let's get some things straight here. I am not the one who said Men are genetically outdated then nodded in agreement. I am not the one who used incel terminology. I am not the one who used Confederation sources to say that men are liars. Before you criticize me you ought to look at yourself in the mirror. You are no saint, no bastion of superiority. You get what you give.

[speedforce131]

I realize we are now wildly off topic, but you believe yourself to be this one person Q’uo refers to?

First of all it's not possible to know for sure. I do not claim any identity other than the identity that I now have. That being said, as we are wanderers, as creation is infinite, it is entirely possible that those of SIMILAR CONGRUENCE can incarnate to Earth in order to be service to others. Q'uo's lesson remains the same. You can see that I have a good grasp of LOO, that I'm trying to teach it and again, the message is misunderstood. I'm not doing this for myself. I only want you to see from a balanced perspective and I can respect the fact that it's difficult. I am truly sorry that I am not better able to relay my thoughts and feelings because it is not my intent to get anyone angry or cause any disharmony.

[Infinite]

I agree with you however you are not saying anything that I have not said.

So, you agree that feminism is a good thing, right? Good.

On Economic Policy, here is what it says for right wing

Lower taxes; less regulation on businesses; reduced government spending; balanced budget.

Is that service to self?

That's a complex discussion because the focus of the thread is feminism. But, I suggest you search the origins of ultra liberalism ( Milton Friedman, Mises, etc.) and on which context these politicians was implemented. A suggestion is watch this documentary:



Ultraliberalism is a try of create a hierachy on the society. They wants  a "minimal state" where the law of jungle is the main law. If the state is removed from your function of wealth redistribution the strongest will stand out and the poor become more poor. That's the problem of that ideology. Without the welfare state, the poorest people will have difficult lives, which will reduce the probability of the activation of the energy centers and the seek of the Law of One.

If you don't want pay taxes, you don't want share something to others. It's not a judgment. I'm just saying as the things are.

The capitalism is a problem in itself. It stimulates selfishness and money accumulation above the quality of life and the environment integrity. It's a system of a orange/yellow manifestation (because green-ray energy is about see everyone as one and free sharing). If you stimulate the people to think in make part of the top of hierarchy, you will push them away from green-ray perspective.

However, on this moment, I defend the social-democracy, a more humanized capitalism. But, if you think the capitalism is beautiful and a STO perspective, I suggest analyse that data:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-35339475

Oppose government-provided universal healthcare and the Affordable Care Act. Favor competition to Medicare from private insurance companies; oppose Medicaid expansion.

Is that service to self? It's not all that it seems because the ACA is socialism and I can tell you from my friends experience that this system is STS. He's a staunch Democrat too. But he knows from experience that he's paying into the ACA, he gets the basic services that he doesn't even need, meanwhile a bigger family, just because they have a family, get premium and better/more services then he does while PAYING THE SAME COST. How is that not service to self? It's government mandated that you HAVE to pay into the system. So these people are forcing people like my friend (who is single and single household) to pay into the system so that other people can benefit off of him.

Well, I'm not from USA so I don't know in details the politics of this country.  But, based in my studies, the USA is the most capitalist country on the world today. Makes no any sense think in socialism on USA. You probably is talking about social-democracy.

See, countries as Norway, Sweden, Finland, etc. are countries that prometes welfare state and the people of these countries live much more happy then the people of others countries on the world.

About healthcare, watching a documetary about the U.S. health care system, even the health care system from my underdeveloped country is better. Perhaps the problem is not the system in itself, but the manner on it is implemented in USA. That's the documentary:



Lastly, just analyze that image and the "values" of both side and realise what side is more close to Orion's ideology:



An unequal society. A racist society. A chauvinistic society. A fascist society. A society where the wealth of richest 1% equal to other 99%. The  Confederation has values close to that society?

[speedforce131]

So, you agree that feminism is a good thing, right? Good.

Yes. I agree. However where we disagree is the version of feminism. I disagree with the MSM version of feminism. We can see that all it's produced in this thread are indoctrinated people with deeply entrenched views. Once you start ignoring natural law that's when you know you're in Orion territory. Do not think that just because it is presented as a "good" movement that corrects "injustice" on the outside, means that it is inherently a good thing. I'll tell you right now that things like these are used to push the populace into activism so that they can introduce more censorship laws and other laws that limit the individual freedom. Service to self negative presents itself as service to others positive.

An unequal society. A racist society. A chauvinistic society. A fascist society. A society where the wealth of richest 1% equal to other 99%. The  Confederation has values close to that society?

You're not from America so you may not know but Liberals are not different from Conservatives in that they are unequal, racist, and chauvinistic. You can see in Hollywood, that they are all Left however a lot of the inequality, chauvinism and racism comes from their sphere of influence. In America, the difference is that who is more OVERT about these things. Liberals are less overt about it and that is why they hate conservatives. They want to keep white supremacy and they know how to do it the smart way. How you can tell is the hypocrisy in what liberals say and how liberals act.

The way I see it, they are both very bad, but that is the system we have to work with. So given that, who can we vote for that will stand up for the right thing? That person can come from either side of the aisle. But if you are hell bent on seeing the other side as the enemy always, then you miss the ideas that they have that can be of benefit to all.

[Minyatur]

I was wondering about female cops, because I see so many of them, but in 2017 (latest statistic I found) there were 32% of cops that are females in my town.

I guess it increased since then, since it seems like ever increasing and expecting a 50% seems unlikely since you can't exactly enforce the desire to become one, nor ignore the required aptitudes just to balance a statistic.

Country wide, the statistic was 21% in 2017 and apparently my province is the one ahead on this.

[Louisabell]

But when I come here, I also feel a responsibility to at least say something when I see the culture of this forum shifting ever more to a polarized place.

I don't see this trend changing, as this polarization does not represent the old anti-feminist systems of thought, but actually a new counterculture of "red-pilled" thought that has permeated nearly all regions of the nether-web and other physical representations of underground thought.

Some people on this thread which would call themselves progressive have now been deemed to be under the influence of outdated "mainstream" thought. Let's talk.

The funny/not-so-funny thing is that I have been able to track this counter-culture's humble beginnings, and some of the first thought-leaders were actually making some very good points, but they had a lot of nuance that (of course) has been completely lost. These thought-leaders identify the trends that are coming to pass (that have mainly to do with technological advancement) and make a call for people to choose their mates carefully. They say that women should bear some of the blame of a dysfunctional society if they continue to choose partners with violent and anti-social tendencies, but that also men need to stop being dazed by women and choose a mate based on her character and not sexual prowess. All of this with the over-arching intention of eliminating all forms of child-abuse, physical and emotional, so that we may truly progess as a society.

The patriarchal or matriarchal system of days gone past (it doesn't really matter which it was because what both these systems are not is a meritocracy) hid some very dysfunctional behaviour patterns and personalities passed down throughout generations. But now the rules of sexual engagement and procreation have changed. The two main game changers are:
1. Sexual revolution and contraception (i.e. people no longer marry to have sex)
2. Life-span has been extended and people spend more time with their spouses without children in the home.

So, marriage has moved away as a biological imperative and moved more into a formal commitment of life-long companionship based on compatibility. These principles are what make up the modern successful marriage. You have to have a base level decent character and also be able to recognise good character in the opposite gender.

Now some people welcome the change, their personalities are well adapted to it, however, what happens to all the people with dysfunctional behaviours and personalities, traits that have been cemented after countless generations of authority based on rank/gender and not merit? Well those people are struggling to adapt and in their confusion and frustration they need a scapegoat... enter feminism.

The truth is feminism did not create the sexual revolution, the pill did. It was inevitable after that point. Feminism did not extend our lifespans or change the economy so that women joining the workforce made sense. These were all incredibly significant evolutionary steps, powerful forces that no one could stop. Feminism could only hope to make the change more comfortable for people.

Feminists on the whole believe there is still so much to do, like on issues on domestic violence, advocating for women in other countries with sexist laws, sexual harassment in the workplace. But a lot of anti-feminists believe feminism has gone way to far, permeated ever area of their lives and taken away their chances of the "happy" family life that their grandfathers and great-grandfathers were entitled to.

I'm of the opinion that feminism has done little compared to what people have claimed that it has done, so feminism is not really the saviour people want it to be, but it's also not the villian others try to make it out. However feminism is still important in its symbolism, and as someone who understands the importance of symbolism in a metaphysical reality, this is not me hand-waving it away.

Red-ray interests are powerful, foundational, nearly unstoppable. Entire groups react to catalyst as a collective. Don't try to see what you want to see, see what the Creator is showing you. When you understand, people begin to make sense.

Also speedforce131, the hypocrisy doesn't escape me when you say it is damaging to acknowledge someone as a different gender to their biological gender because that is how they identify. But then you demand we acknowledge your superior and infallible future-seeing capabilities because this is who you identify yourself to be?

Personal bias makes a hypocrite out of us all.

[speedforce131]

They say that women should bear some of the blame of a dysfunctional society if they continue to choose partners with violent and anti-social tendencies

It's true. And I introduce to you WMAF (white male, Asian female). It is never more apparent and obvious with these types of relationships.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opini...etish.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/...alf_asian/

But that also men need to stop being dazed by women and choose a mate based on her character and not sexual prowess.

I agree. I don't participate in the dating game because I seek character and in the 1000's of people I've come across, I've found that the character is less than desirable even if I do find their physical forms very desirable. The problem is that for the average man, finding a sexual partner is very difficult and so for most men, the easier it is to find women that have sexual prowess, the better. As these women also want a lot of sex. So we come to a problem where our anti-family and pro-sexual freedom society creates the environment where it is less than desirable to live in.

Red-ray interests are powerful, foundational, nearly unstoppable. Entire groups react to catalyst as a collective. Don't try to see what you want to see, see what the Creator is showing you. When you understand, people begin to make sense.

Gotcha. Physical pursuits and interests are that powerful.

Also speedforce131, the hypocrisy doesn't escape me when you say it is damaging to acknowledge someone as a different gender to their biological gender because that is how they identify. But then you demand we acknowledge your superior and infallible future-seeing capabilities because this is who you identify yourself to be?

I don't demand anything. When I see people with no knowledge talk as if they had, especially when I know myself to possess said knowledge, I'm going to call it out. I'm still waiting on the answer of what phase 3 of remote viewing is. If you want, I can simply show you sessions. You see, it is easy to talk the talk, but to walk the walk is not so easy. To not only know, but demonstrate and understand the knowledge. These things cannot be faked.

[Louisabell]

They say that women should bear some of the blame of a dysfunctional society if they continue to choose partners with violent and anti-social tendencies

It's true. And I introduce to you WMAF (white male, Asian female). It is never more apparent and obvious with these types of relationships.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/opini...etish.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/...alf_asian/

But that also men need to stop being dazed by women and choose a mate based on her character and not sexual prowess.

I agree. I don't participate in the dating game because I seek character and in the 1000's of people I've come across, I've found that the character is less than desirable even if I do find their physical forms very desirable. The problem is that for the average man, finding a sexual partner is very difficult and so for most men, the easier it is to find women that have sexual prowess, the better. As these women also want a lot of sex. So we come to a problem where our anti-family and pro-sexual freedom society creates the environment where it is less than desirable to live in.

Red-ray interests are powerful, foundational, nearly unstoppable. Entire groups react to catalyst as a collective. Don't try to see what you want to see, see what the Creator is showing you. When you understand, people begin to make sense.

Gotcha. Physical pursuits and interests are that powerful.

Also speedforce131, the hypocrisy doesn't escape me when you say it is damaging to acknowledge someone as a different gender to their biological gender because that is how they identify. But then you demand we acknowledge your superior and infallible future-seeing capabilities because this is who you identify yourself to be?

I don't demand anything. When I see people with no knowledge talk as if they had, especially when I know myself to possess said knowledge, I'm going to call it out. I'm still waiting on the answer of what phase 3 of remote viewing is. If you want, I can simply show you sessions. You see, it is easy to talk the talk, but to walk the walk is not so easy. To not only know, but demonstrate and understand the knowledge. These things cannot be faked.

Well I didn't really expect you'd agree with so much that I said. It's thrown me a little to be honest. And yes, I agree it will be better if you show your gifts as oppose to relying on claims. I think it would be a leap for people to believe you are as proficient as you say, but I still think people here would be interested and find value in the observations you've made during remote viewing. There is always value in sharing ideas.

I don't know what phase 3 is, or phase 2 or 1 for that matter. I don't practise any divination arts because that is not what I am called to do.

[Glow]

To put yourself above others is always ego.

Hilarious that you say this because each person who argued with me put themselves over me, whereas I put the Confederation and facts above all else.

Whether talking belittlingly about another’s wanderer status, thinking one is the most learned spiritually or as a remote viewer, or whatever it’s all ego and all pointing towards why this feminism thing is rejected so fully. A clear feeling of superiority. Which again is ego.

Hilarious because I see YOUR EGOS all over the place. I may come across as very learned in the spiritual space and I am indeed a remote viewer. This is unique to my experience that I share with you. I only mention these things because you have someone in front of you who knows. Who has the contained knowledge of many things that you may need at this time. Instead of poking and prodding, withdrawing the love and wisdom that I have to offer, you want to stick to your limited belief systems that you've become so enmeshed in.

Let's get some things straight here. I am not the one who said Men are genetically outdated then nodded in agreement. I am not the one who used incel terminology. I am not the one who used Confederation sources to say that men are liars. Before you criticize me you ought to look at yourself in the mirror. You are no saint, no bastion of superiority. You get what you give.

Speedforce look at the posts I never said any of those things or nodded in agreement about them. I agreed with some things, but not those. The liar post called both women and men liars.... though I think that was very much not the point of that quote.

Also I still think you are being manipulated in what you are shown, because one who knows truth doesn’t not also carry such heavy burdens of being “the one”, we are all the one and once we contact the entirety there is no longer a feeling of being “I” or special. The illusion is wrecked at least that self-important part. The alternative is you are clearing some kind of karmic distortions that are very heavy either way I wish you the easiest of paths forward.

As to phase 3 it seems unlikely all paths use the same terminology, also as I said very clearly I didn’t pursue it because it is no use to me. I am not interested in micromanaging creation, transient stuff other than just sharing love in the moment doesn’t matter to me anymore.

This feminism doesn’t really even hold interest to me as I know it’s inevitable we will find balance and unity. That is why I just watched till you started pulling out your feelings of superiority and insinuating others just weren’t as wander-y/LARPing? I suppose none of those you called LARPers really needed me stepping in but it feels like pretty low blows to insult people’s souls. Eeee hard to watch that from this body.

As to the thread I am glad to see a wind of change come in, that brings growth and new directions for us to explore. A movement towards being a more loving inclusive supportive society. That’s all this is. And though I am less inclined personally to have these conversations I am still glad they are happening.

I really didn’t need to check back in as I see there is new blood to take this conversation where it needs to go so I will let it go the way it will.

No hard feelings from this end, all being one, carrying certain experiences for the creator is not easy and I don’t think the one you are carrying looks easy. I thankfully packed most of my worst into early years. I sincerely hope it gets easier for you and you have all the support from the creator you need.

[Infinite]

I disagree with the MSM version of feminism.

What is that?

You're not from America so you may not know but Liberals are not different from Conservatives in that they are unequal, racist, and chauvinistic.

Ok, I'll trust that you is talking the truth. But, we are talking about IDEOLOGIES, not political parties neither individuals. Both sides have corruption and people that don't follow your own discourse. But, the important is the ideology and how this affect the society.

[flofrog]

I thankfully packed most of my worst into early years. I sincerely hope it gets easier for you  and you have all the support from the creator you need.

I love that, Glow !  lol I feel most of us, if not all,  have done that worst too, earlier  !!!    

[speedforce131]

Also I still think you are being manipulated in what you are shown

There is no "shown". You do not "see" anything. You do not interact with anybody but yourself. Remote viewing is actually data, information from the record of all that is. Since you could not adequately answer what phase 3 is, and yes all remote viewing systems use same or similar terminology. The alternative is "stage" as in stage 1, 2, 3, etc. If this does not ring true for you then you are not remote viewing.

I sincerely hope it gets easier for you and you have all the support from the creator you need.

Thanks. You said earlier that I had some karmic distortions. That's true. That came from my past lives. My wife and I were murdered for our beliefs. I suspect that there are things in modern day that are directly linked to that event. Feminism is one of them I feel. Not the real feminism where injustices and inequality go unanswered. But the manufactured type by the MSM that's meant to divide and enslave people for the almighty dollar. Everything that the media pushes either leads to A) enact new laws for more control or B) turn more people into wage slaves for the wheel of industry. I know that I'm supposed to be here to help resolve that but in participating in this thread, I see that my good intent led to toxicity. I always have a choice in how to act despite how others act or say. I acted terribly and I'm sorry for that.

[Relax]

“I draw a line down the middle of a chalkboard, sketching a male symbol on one side and a female symbol on the other. Then I ask just the men: What steps do you guys take, on a daily basis, to prevent yourselves from being sexually assaulted?
At first there is a kind of awkward silence as the men try to figure out if they've been asked a trick question. The silence gives way to a smattering of nervous laughter. Occasionally, a young a guy will raise his hand and say, 'I stay out of prison.' This is typically followed by another moment of laughter, before someone finally raises his hand and soberly states, 'Nothing. I don't think about it.'

Then I ask women the same question. What steps do you take on a daily basis to prevent yourselves from being sexually assaulted?
Women throughout the audience immediately start raising their hands. As the men sit in stunned silence, the women recount safety precautions they take as part of their daily routine. Here are some of their answers: Hold my keys as a potential weapon. Look in the back seat of the car before getting in. Carry a cell phone. Don't go jogging at night. Lock all the windows when I sleep, even on hot summer nights. Be careful not to drink too much. Don't put my drink down and come back to it; make sure I see it being poured. Own a big dog. Carry Mace or pepper spray. Have an unlisted phone number. Have a man's voice on my answering machine. Park in well-lit areas. Don't use parking garages. Don't get on elevators with only one man, or with a group of men. Vary my route home from work. Watch what I wear. Don't use highway rest areas. Use a home alarm system. Don't wear headphones when jogging. Avoid forests or wooded areas, even in the daytime. Don't take a first-floor apartment. Go out in groups. Own a firearm. Meet men on first dates in public places. Make sure to have a car or cab fare. Don't make eye contact with men on the street. Make assertive eye contact with men on the street.”

― Jackson Katz, The Macho Paradox: Why Some Men Hurt Women and How All Men Can Help

I am sickened by this thread.
The 'poor me' - the arrogance, the aggression, the snideness, the lack of respectful reply to carefully considered responses to BS not worth even engaging in.

THIS THREAD ILLUSTRATES THE NEED FOR 'FEMINISM'.

aggressive, self obsessed, whining, defensive, ignorant, misogynistic replies

thank you to every person here - whatever gender - who has made such an effort to try to educate, to listen, to discuss and to help people who are so unable to see things from anywhere other than their own perspectives - they've exhausted us

learn some 'his-story' ffs

GROW THE f*** up and open your eyes!

“Nature intended women to be our slaves... they are our property; we are not theirs. They belong to us, just as a tree that bears fruit belongs to a gardener.... Women are nothing more than machines for producing children." - Napoleon Bonaparte

"The female is a female by virtue of a certain lack of qualities; we should regard the female nature as afflicted with a natural defectiveness.” - Aristotle

“... A female is deficient and unintentionally caused. For the active power of the semen always seeks to produce a thing completely like itself, something male. So if a female is produced, this must be because the semen is weak or because the material [provided by the female parent] is unsuitable, or because of the action of some external factor such as the winds from the south which make the atmosphere humid.” - St Thomas Aquinas

“If it were not for some [divine] power that wanted the feminine sex to exist, the birth of a woman would be just another accident, such as that of other monsters [= a dog with two heads, a calf with five legs, etc.]” - St Thomas Aquinas

"Woman is a violent and uncontrolled animal, and it is useless to let go the reins and then expect her not to kick over the traces. You must keep her on a tight rein.... Women want total freedom or rather — to call things by their names — total licence. If you allow them to achieve complete equality with men, do you think they will be easier to live with? Not at all. Once they have achieved equality, they will be your masters.” - Cato the Elder

“A wife should have no feelings of her own, but share her husband’s seriousness and sport, his anxiety and his laughter.” - Plutarch

"“The whole education of women ought to be relative to men. To please them, to be useful to them, to make themselves loved and honored by them, to educate them when young, to care for them when grown, to council them, to console them, and to make life agreeable and sweet to them — these are the duties of women at all times, and should be taught them from their infancy.” - Jean-Jaques Rousseau

“feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians” - (Televangelist) Pat Robertson

“A proper wife should be as obedient as a slave.” ~ Aristotle

“The male is by nature superior and the female inferior; one rules and the other is ruled.” ~ Aristotle: The Politics, Book I

“Men’s courage is shown in commanding and women’s in obeying.” ~ Aristotle: The Politics, Book I

“Fortune is like a woman; if you wish to master her, you must conquer her by force. Moreover, she is more willing to be conquered by forceful men of ability than by timid cowards.” ~ Niccolo Machiavelli

“Woman in her greatest perfection was made to serve and obey man, not rule and command him.” ~ John Knox

“The husband hath by law power and dominion over his wife, and may keep her by force, within the bounds of duty, and may beat her, but not in a violent or cruel manner.” ~ Sir Francis Bacon

“Love well, whip well.” ~ Benjamin Franklin

“Woman is by nature meant to obey.” ~ Arthur Schopenhauer

“You go to a woman? Do not forget your whip.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

“Thy husband is thy lord, thy life, thy keeper, Thy head, thy sovereign; one that cares for thee, And for thy maintenance commits his body To painful labour both by sea and land, To watch the night in storms, the day in cold, Whilst thou liest warm at home, secure and safe; And craves no other tribute at thy hands But love, fair looks and true obedience; Too little payment for so great a debt. Such duty as the subject owes the prince Even such a woman oweth to her husband; And when she is froward, peevish, sullen, sour, And not obedient to his honest will, What is she but a foul contending rebel And graceless traitor to her loving lord? I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace; Or seek for rule, supremacy and sway, When they are bound to serve, love and obey. Why are our bodies soft and weak and smooth, Unapt to toil and trouble in the world, But that our soft conditions and our hearts Should well agree with our external parts? Then vail your stomachs, for it is no boot, And place your hands below your husband’s foot: In token of which duty, if he please, My hand is ready; may it do him ease.” -Shakespeare, Taming of the Shrew

"Women are the rails on which men run" - Saul Bellow

"A little bit of rape is good for a man's soul." - Norman Mailer

"It is the law of nature that women should be held under the dominance of man." - Confucious

"One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." - Confucious

"Henry VIII didn't get divorced, he just had his wives heads chopped off when he got tired of them. That's a good way to get rid of a woman - no alimony." - Ted Turner

"Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society." - Rush Limbaugh

"Everything in women is a riddle of everything in women hath one solution. Pregnancy." - Friedriche Nietzsche

"Educating a beautiful woman is like pouring honey into a fine Swiss watch: everything stops." - Kurt Vonnegut

"If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down." - Todd Akin

"Any woman who does not give birth to as many children as she is capable is guilty of murder." - St Augustine

"Women, with their 2 fingered wisdom, have a difficult time understanding what I teach." - Gautum Buddha

"If it were not for women being admitted to our order, my teachings would have lasted a thousand years. Now they will not last 500." - Gautum Buddha

"If rape is inevitable; just relax and enjoy it." Clayton Williams

"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything." - Donald Trump.

but there's 'no need for feminism'?

NO NEED?? !!

[EvolvingPhoenix]

Dude, you pull out a bunch of old ass quotes from dudes hundreds of years ago, like they matter in the 21st century and use them to argue feminism is needed. No, feminism WAS needed. Women have equality now.

And as for the chalkboard...

It doesn't prove women need feminism because you forgot one important factor in the equation: The utter uselessness and ineffectiveness of your modern feminist. Case in point: Feminists complaining about "rape culture" in college campuses and then insisting we let in refugees from cultures where raping women is commonly accepted. Stupid. But hey, they're sure to fix the problem by giving us all mandatory consent classes so we can learn how to not rape people. Because it's a very confusing subject for the rapist, clearly. Never mind the sexism inherent in these classes, they're stopping rape on campuses... somehow. Yeah, I don't think we need feminists for s***.

[Relax]

I'm NOT a "DUDE"

but of course - you presume I am...

and you've always assumed I'm male whenever we've shared messages. I have made a lot of gentle and kind effort to help you many times

you who would do well to show the respect to others here (including me) - that we here have shown you

[speedforce131]

Relaxo you do not know the meaning of respect.

[ada]

Why do women not work in construction, garbage pickup, sewer cleaning? Is it that they're not allowed? Or they simply do not want to. There are a lot of dirty work women simply will not want part in. Just like some women do want to be dependant on the male for income while they remain pretty. - this is not a stigma, it is what some women actually want. You dislike it, but that's how it is, our society is a sick one, money, pleasure, greed, you name it, people will abuse everything that they can to benefit themselves, women and men. So you can imagine how some women may abuse the feminist movement in such a way. Some job places pay women less, or don't hire women, and that workplace is responsible for such inequality, not men against women. Just like some work places hire only the friends and family members of the workers, it's inequality throughout all people. Some countries, religious countries, actually still have inequality for women, that should be our main focus with the movement. And not men spreading theirs legs in a bus. Or what some guy said that doesn't represent me.

[kristina]

Yikes, what a piece of work

what do you mean? In what context?

[flofrog]

Dude, you pull out a bunch of old ass quotes from dudes hundreds of years ago, like they matter in the 21st century and use them to argue feminism is needed. No, feminism WAS needed. Women have equality now.

And as for the chalkboard...

It doesn't prove women need feminism because you forgot one important factor in the equation: The utter uselessness and ineffectiveness of your modern feminist. Case in point: Feminists complaining about "rape culture" in college campuses and then insisting we let in refugees from cultures where raping women is commonly accepted. Stupid. But hey, they're sure to fix the problem by giving us all mandatory consent classes so we can learn how to not rape people. Because it's a very confusing subject for the rapist, clearly. Never mind the sexism inherent in these classes, they're stopping rape on campuses... somehow. Yeah, I don't think we need feminists for s***.

EP,
You can’t quite say that... added to the crudeness of any quote, relaxo was quoting many contemporary authors anyway.
Norman Mailer saying that a little bit of rape is good for the man.s soul is really impossible to digest when you think of it

I think in the end the incredible physical and mental pain, plus terror, that a woman will feel when she will be raped is the explanation of feminism. It is a fact that in most cases a woman ‘s strength will not be enough to protect her..

And you cannot really link to stupidity the fact of rape and the issue of immigration...

Let us agree that feminism like any movement may make errors, but again, think for one moment, even if you are a man, what is the pain of a woman who is raped. Think if it were your mother. Raped in front of you if you were still a child.

Love you EP