2009 01.20 Dolphin or Human?

[Quan]

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0120.aspx
It sounds strange to even think it but would you be dolphin, whale or other cetacean instead of a human?  Well at least for role playing sake? Yes there is no land, no hands and thumbs and technological gadgets and entertainment that we have, and choice of food is more restricted to seafood only.. not sure about vegan dolphins haha? I remember asking my Dad after reading this transcript if he would be a dolphin instead or whale.. he said no all you can eat is fish!  
For me the most obvious advantage is :all you life is leisure at least 90% of your life is just having fun and/or focusing on spiritual side  as with everyone you know!   I just asked my wife now, she straight away said oh yeah i would be a dolphin its free so happy and singing all the time..     What do you think?
Other advantage is the freedom on movement rather than just walking where land is you can fly basically! And theres the super currents you can catch that are like a bullet train(finding Nemo movie you see this) that can travel great speeds across the ocean effortlessly.. Anyway back to the transcript  Here is some of the advantages to being a cetacean:

Freedom, no income and abundance of food:
This is in stark contrast to your brothers and sisters who are able to ride freely through the ever-changing waters where food is plentiful and is found with no discernible effort, where all waters are acceptable in temperature, where there is no money to make and there are no goods to buy. There is nothing to store up against a harsh winter or old age. There is only the air to breathe, the water in which to swim, companionship and the dreams, meditations and contemplation of all the years of life.

Greater focus on Frontal area of brain instead of the intellect:
"The potential of intelligence and insight in humans, the descendants of great apes, and in cetaceans, those who originally were land animals but evolved into sea-going animals, is roughly the same, the ratio of brain size to body size being similar. However, the human species has become increasingly distracted from the deeper levels of contemplation, meditation, imagination, insight and dreaming.
"The spiritual aspect of those frontal lobes has given away to the sharpening and ever more complex use of the intellect."
SO to be more "free to choose what dreams and visions with which you wished to occupy yourself; what meditations in which you wished to encompass yourself; what contemplation you wished to enjoy, not only for an hour or a few minutes but also for all your waking hours for an entire life?"
"Humans have done a marvelous job of developing the possibilities of intellectual thought while they have left carelessly neglected, and for the most part abandoned, the deeper realms of insight, meditation and contemplation, those activities that connect the frontal lobes with the rest of the brain."

Harmony with environment:
"Having no opposable thumbs, they have not created tools to make things that may or may not be negative in their impact on the environment. Consequently they have never left the state of nature in which they are simply a part of their environment. They do not create difficulties with their environment for their environment has formed them and they follow the ways of their environment."

Communication is through concepts not words
"The communication of cetaceans is concept communication. It is not yet telepathy. There is the creation of sound that travels through the medium of water which contains the very short bursts of communication that create the cluster of thoughts within concept. There are great advantages to concept communication over communication by words, for in concept communication there is not the possibility of misunderstanding because of clumsily used words."

"Of all of those ways of evolving that have split between the land-based, opposable-thumbed humans and the water-based cetaceans, this is perhaps the single most telling difference. And, in a way, it explains much of the confusion and turmoil of you who dwell upon the land and speak words at each other but often not with each other.

One aspect not mentioned is the dangers of the environment, obviously sharks and killer whales or humans too.. but then this would probably be balanced by less physical and mental disease that humans can experience.

The beginning
Side Note:  One part that really triggered a strange reaction within me, was imagining this:
"It was the choice of those Atlanteans who volunteered for the experiments in genetics to choose these beautiful animals. The politics of their home in Atlantis seemed to them to be questionable in polarity [and so it seemed] desirable to them, therefore, to use their technology to embark upon a great adventure.

These, then, who swim the seas of your time, are the descendants of the philosophers and sages who saw a better way to move through the spiritual evolution of third density, choosing not so much service to others as a refusal to live in service to self."
Was it immediate transfer of consciousness straight to a cetacean upon death? If it was immediate transfer how incredible yet weird too would it be to suddenly just be a cetacean..a dolphin with your friends or a big whale..

Dolphins talking about humans?
A last thought, one which i had.  What would dolphins think about humans? They are together, having a chat and the topic of us comes up... Probably how silly we are

 

[MangusKhan]

That's a very tough decision. Dolphin life would be beautiful, no doubt. There would be that depth of experience lacking, however, which you find in the human condition.

I would certainly like to be a dolphin for a while though. A lifetime, perhaps. Who knows, maybe I would never look back, and live out the rest of my lifetimes in the unmitigated bliss and freedom of dolphin life.

[isis]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/200...abies.html

[MangusKhan]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/200...abies.html

While I was not giving some poor she-dolphin a bit of the old in-out-in-out with my delphino gang, along with committing casual infanticide, life would still be magical. It's not like human life is exempt from these activities, either.

But since you've instigated the destroying of illusions here, let me follow up with this classic video example of the ways of the noble dolphin.

[isis]

[Quan]

In light of the comments focusing on the more negative polarity it would be an interesting area to look into, I would think be harder compared to humans to exert considerable power in the negative sense when there is less control over environment than humans.   Eg humans kidnapping/abductions/slavery in physical environment compared to dolphins or the yellow side of groups exerting power on a global scale or think about war given the lack of tools developed bombs guns etc. I have this image of dolphins carrying weapons in the mouth fighting one another be pretty funny   
Being a dolphin I think would have more freedom to move to more isolated pockets to work out spiritual like humans in spiritual communities except theres no VISA or passports/money you go wherever.  Catch the ocean currents and your off.   Certainly interesting discussions , I would love to hear more  talk on this an other areas not just the obvious Positives talked about in the transcript..    Furthermore certain dolphin species are some more prone to negative and others to positive?

This is only one side of discussion Cetaceans invovled more than just dolphins...   how about whales  would they be prone to more positive polarity than dolphins?    Given lack of yellow group which negative typically need to polarise.. Or is there negative behaviour also witnessed?     There were old stories of ships being wretched by whales, well rumours  however nothing recent..   No not the book/movie Moby Dick

Lol yeah the puffer fish thing is pretty funny..   

[MangusKhan]

I found a book yesterday called "Deep Thinkers" about whales and dolphins, and sat down to read it. It would seem that the cetaceans which exhibit complex social behavior fall almost entirely under the order of odontoceti. That is, the dolphins/whales which posses sharp teeth and hunt for large prey. The other order, mysticeti are largely solitary, or group together for the sole purpose of moving to breeding/feeding grounds. I wonder if this correlates to greater or lesser degrees of consciousness. Are mysticeti more spiritually aware due to their lack of socialising, or is it the other way around?

Mysticeti whales seem to do nothing more than lounge around the ocean sucking up masses of shrimp and small fish. The Bowhead whale does this for almost the entirety of its potentially 200 year life. Surely one would grow wise in that time.

[Quan]

I found a book yesterday called "Deep Thinkers" about whales and dolphins, and sat down to read it. It would seem that the cetaceans which exhibit complex social behavior fall almost entirely under the order of odontoceti. That is, the dolphins/whales which posses sharp teeth and hunt for large prey. The other order, mysticeti are largely solitary, or group together for the sole purpose of moving to breeding/feeding grounds. I wonder if this correlates to greater or lesser degrees of consciousness. Are mysticeti more spiritually aware due to their lack of socialising, or is it the other way around?

Mysticeti whales seem to do nothing more than lounge around the ocean sucking up masses of shrimp and small fish. The Bowhead whale does this for almost the entirety of its potentially 200 year life. Surely one would grow wise in that time.

Fascinating, one of the most exiting things to learn about other 3rd density species and possibilities. There is enough material about us humans to look into, and here on earth we have a whole different world right under our fingertips so books like those I cant wait for more or movies etc.   I heard Russians in the past did a lot of studies on dolphins for military purposes, havent heard any details or whether its true.. a quick search then popped up lots of info and americans too.. Miltary Dolphin came up .  Anyway bit sidetracked... Back to the path again!

I would think that wanderers would be drawn to be whales more than dolphins possibly? Not much distraction at all being mainly solitary as with what you said but could work in opposite way too.  I have the image that whales are like the old wise masters dolphins turn too, which leads to another question would dolphins and whales hang out much for spiritual purposes?  So many questions comes to mind,  I cant fathom why there hasnt been a lot of talk on it in spiritual communities..  but then this density isnt the density of understanding so maybe its futile   

[MangusKhan]

Fascinating, one of the most exiting things to learn about other 3rd density species and possibilities. There is enough material about us humans to look into, and here on earth we have a whole different world right under our fingertips so books like those I cant wait for more or movies etc.   I heard Russians in the past did a lot of studies on dolphins for military purposes, havent heard any details or whether its true.. a quick search then popped up lots of info and americans too.. Miltary Dolphin came up .  Anyway bit sidetracked... Back to the path again!

I would think that wanderers would be drawn to be whales more than dolphins possibly? Not much distraction at all being mainly solitary as with what you said but could work in opposite way too.  I have the image that whales are like the old wise masters dolphins turn too, which leads to another question would dolphins and whales hang out much for spiritual purposes?  So many questions comes to mind,  I cant fathom why there hasnt been a lot of talk on it in spiritual communities..  but then this density isnt the density of understanding so maybe its futile   

Funny, I also imagined the solitary old whale as the "wise master" while dolphins are more like those younger entities whose work lies in the active social spheres of existence. Whales sound like 5th density beings, spending their consciousness in time/space while their physical bodies just peacefully move through the oceans.

I also wondered if maybe mysteceti actually weren't 3D beings, being of a different genetic lineage than the odonoceti. Because if the Atlanteans modified dolphins, how would that spread over to an entirely different order of cetaceans? I think your point about the futility of trying to understand this stuff in third density is on the mark.

[Quan]

Fascinating, one of the most exiting things to learn about other 3rd density species and possibilities. There is enough material about us humans to look into, and here on earth we have a whole different world right under our fingertips so books like those I cant wait for more or movies etc.   I heard Russians in the past did a lot of studies on dolphins for military purposes, havent heard any details or whether its true.. a quick search then popped up lots of info and americans too.. Miltary Dolphin came up .  Anyway bit sidetracked... Back to the path again!

I would think that wanderers would be drawn to be whales more than dolphins possibly? Not much distraction at all being mainly solitary as with what you said but could work in opposite way too.  I have the image that whales are like the old wise masters dolphins turn too, which leads to another question would dolphins and whales hang out much for spiritual purposes?  So many questions comes to mind,  I cant fathom why there hasnt been a lot of talk on it in spiritual communities..  but then this density isnt the density of understanding so maybe its futile   

Funny, I also imagined the solitary old whale as the "wise master" while dolphins are more like those younger entities whose work lies in the active social spheres of existence. Whales sound like 5th density beings, spending their consciousness in time/space while their physical bodies just peacefully move through the oceans.

I also wondered if maybe mysteceti actually weren't 3D beings, being of a different genetic lineage than the odonoceti. Because if the Atlanteans modified dolphins, how would that spread over to an entirely different order of cetaceans? I think your point about the futility of trying to understand this stuff in third density is on the mark.

"I also wondered if maybe mysteceti actually weren't 3D beings"


RA in Law of One doesnt talk about it but the transcripts have some say, 

"just as your species has had its evolution interrupted by genetic manipulation many thousands of your years in the past, so has the evolution of those known to you as dolphins and whales and other cetaceans such as porpoises been interrupted, not by those from elsewhere than your planet but by those on the island-continent you have called Atlantis.


The consciousness of these mammals was enhanced by the genetic manipulation which caused the so-called human and the so-called cetacean [2] to be bonded and blended and unified into that which had every appearance of being a cetacean, yet that which now possessed a spirit complex of third-density level.


Thusly, the natural process of reproduction gradually invested all of these species with third-density consciousness. Consequently, you and the whales and dolphins are indeed brothers, moving through the third-density major cycle of 76,000 or so of your years."

It seems to focus more on whales, dolphins and but mentions other cetaceans such as porpoises. 

I found another transcripts that has some interesting questions and evolution compared to us:


L:Yes. In comparison to our own race’s progress in polarization, how would you compare our progress with that of the dolphins?

I am Latwii, and, my brother, we do not wish to make any present feel lesser in their seeking, but your brothers and sisters of the dolphin family have been much more united and centered in their seeking and choosing of a polarity, for their seeking has resulted in the positive polarity choice to an almost unanimous degree.

Interesting also mentions killer whales being same I never would have thought that!   Haha name doesn't really match positive polarity 

L:   
Yes. Is this also true of the group we refer to as killer whales?

[b]I am Latwii. This is correct, my brother. May we[/b] answer you further?

Also this:
We are aware that there are species of beings upon your sphere other than the human that have achieved a state of consciousness which is somewhat more unified, shall we say, than is that state exhibited by the great majority of the human population. Some of these entities are known to your peoples as the whale and the porpoise.

Here is interesting quote about Sharks too:
I am Latwii, and we might say that the one known as sharks remain in the hi gh second density of their particular species. There have been some individual crossovers, shall we say, from the shark line into that which is known as the dolphin, which is another part of their evolutionary history—have shared the experience, and has been a part of the chain of evolution for both.

Here is interesting quote saying dolphins started 75000 years ago as with humans, so its not all accredited to Atlantis..


Carla:While we’re on dolphins, do dolphin—does the dolphin race precede the humanoid race and have its own individual and particular genetic trail or did those of Atlantis deal genetically with and become part of the dolphin race at one point many thousands of years ago?

I am Latwii, and, my sister, in this regard, we may note that crossover, shall we say, between the races of your third-density beings, this including those known as dolphins and some forms of those called whales, has been very minimal. The genetic progress of the ones known as dolphins has been, for the most part, a progress of a homogeneous nature, dwelling also within the boundaries of the third-density illusion which you experience. Therefore,this trail which has been traveled by the dolphin is a trail which began at the same time the trail of the humanoid form began upon your planet,approximately 75,000 of your years ago.

Its patchy at best the information I could find not really probing much, only that first transcript from 2009 covers in great detail.