What do you do to support yourself financially?

[Minyatur]

Who are you

The mirage of a thought, an essence.

[YinYang]

So that said, maybe I should start a thread named "Who are you".

This is closely related to identification. People's jobs are among the things they are most identified with in themselves, along with nationality. Spiritual evolution for me goes hand in hand with losing all my identifications, it really is a very liberating process, and thus far an endless one. The more they fall away the freer you feel. Once you start exploring, they're everywhere, some deeply entrenched and unconscious. It's also closely related to detachment in Buddhism, Buddha called it "the end of suffering".

That will be a great thread by the way, you will see how people struggle with not identifying with form. Eckhart Tolle talks about this in his books quite a bit.

[Nicholas]

Thought I'd mention this excerpt that I read this morning: http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0318.aspx

You are here as awakened beings to be, not to do. This is a terrifically difficult concept to receive within the context of incarnated life because life as you know it, as you experience it, as the culture teaches you to experience it, is about doing. You were taught to value yourself as a worker, as a producer, as an accomplisher of deeds. They may be many different kinds of deeds, but at the next gathering to which you go, you will be asked not, “Who are you?” but, “What do you do?” And you will be valued by many people according to how that answer goes. And yet we say to you that you are not here primarily as a doer, but as an essence. In the energetic or metaphysical sense, each of you is a field of energy. Now this energy is not simple. Each of you has, as a core vibration, the one great original Thought. Each of you, at the core, is the Creator. Indeed, the basic goal of evolution is to come once again into full vibratory congruency with the one original Thought that is the Logos. This Logos could be described as love, and yet that word has been so sullied by being used for different kinds of passion and emotion and devotion that it is inadequate at heart to express the fullness of that quality that is creative and divine love.

(my emphasis)

It's interesting to see both the variety of jobs people have out there as well as the single attitude we all try to bring to bear on those jobs.  

So that said, maybe I should start a thread named "Who are you".

Yeah the "I am" part is not to be taken literally, especially not in this forum of ours! 

It's good to feel comfortable in whatever form you trade your time for resource tokens though. As my 15 year old nephew said a couple of weeks ago, "It's not about doing what you love, it's about loving what you do."

so whatever we do, if we focus on doing it well then we are creating metaphysical beauty, because we are sending love/light into our doing!

[Billy]

So that said, maybe I should start a thread named "Who are you".

This is closely related to identification. People's jobs are among the things they are most identified with in themselves, along with nationality. Spiritual evolution for me goes hand in hand with losing all my identifications, it really is a very liberating process, and thus far an endless one. The more they fall away the freer you feel. Once you start exploring, they're everywhere, some deeply entrenched and unconscious. It's also closely related to detachment in Buddhism, Buddha called it "the end of suffering".

That will be a great thread by the way, you will see how people struggle with not identifying with form. Eckhart Tolle talks about this in his books quite a bit.

I've just started reading 'A New Earth' and while I'm still struggling to wrap my head around just exactly what Eckhart is trying to say, I feel as though a lot of what he says is valid.  My biggest issue though, and maybe this is a misunderstanding on my behalf, is that he talks about dissolving the ego, which as discussed in another recent thread may not even be possible or even ideal. 

They way I have understood his work is that once you stop identifying/dissociate from this ego, you start then identifying with your essence, which is oneness itself and who you truly are.  You are then identifying with something real, rather than something illusory.  And that is where dis-identifying from things comes in, be it your job, nationality, religion etc.  I guess the idea is that once you have stripped yourself of all that is unreal, than all that is left is what is real.  It sounds nice, but I don't know how true it is.    

[Dog Star]

afraid of what cannot predict next, used to think alike, patterns

[YinYang]

My biggest issue though, and maybe this is a misunderstanding on my behalf, is that he talks about dissolving the ego, which as discussed in another recent thread may not even be possible or even ideal.  

I personally don't like the terminology "dissolving the ego", because it gives people the impression that something that is inherent in us, should somehow be overcome or even eliminated.

In the case of Wanderers which seek to recapitulate the degree of adeptness which each had acquired previous to this life experience, we may note that even after the forgetting process has been penetrated there is still the yellow activated body which does not respond as does the adept which is of a green- or blue-ray activated body. Thusly, you may see the inevitability of frustrations and confusion due to the inherent difficulties of manipulating the finer forces of consciousness through the chemical apparatus of the yellow-ray activated body.

For me it really is all about balancing that energy center, nothing is "dissolved". And since the yellow ray energy center is all about relationships with other entities and society, forgiveness is paramount in balancing that ray, of self and others.

Ra: The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego.

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity must, in order to completely unblock yellow ray, love all which are in relationship to it, with hope only of the other selves’ joy, peace, and comfort.

There are a lot of spiritual teachers whose teaching make sense to me because of Ra, I also wouldn't have understood what many of them were talking about without the Ra material. Tolle is someone who is sitting with the same dilemma as anyone who has awakened partially or completely, and is trying to convey this "understanding" to others.

He wrote Power of Now just after his awakening, and it reminds me of this in the Ra material.

We cannot offer shortcuts to enlightenment. Enlightenment is of the moment, is an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?

[YinYang]

They way I have understood his work is that once you stop identifying/dissociate from this ego, you start then identifying with your essence, which is oneness itself and who you truly are.  You are then identifying with something real, rather than something illusory.  And that is where dis-identifying from things comes in, be it your job, nationality, religion etc.  I guess the idea is that once you have stripped yourself of all that is unreal, than all that is left is what is real.  It sounds nice, but I don't know how true it is.    

I believe this, identification for me is all about the illusion. The freedom from not attaching your identity to a profession, religion, nationality etc. is very real to me. You still "play the game" of this world, you just don't suffer as much as those who are identified to form.

Ra: For does not the Magus strive to achieve through the manifested world?

[herald]

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I have worked in the USA since I was 15 years old with no breaks during school- I am now 52. I was in construction and restaurants for many years, but at the age of 22 I began studying massage and oriental medicine. When I graduated I worked part time doing acupuncture and part time waiting tables. by 1999 I operated one of the busiest clinics in the US, but it was owned by someone else. Eleven years ago my wife and I opened our own clinic, where we keep our rates low so everyone can afford the massage and acupuncture. It's been a great honor/pleasure over these decades of meeting and speaking directly with well over ten thousand people -most every one of them happy to be there for the treatments. I know this is not an option for everyone, so I appreciate the opportunity I have even more because of that.

It may be of interest to some here that when I read this in The Law of One regarding acupuncture:  

". . . However, it is to be noted that there are most often anomalies in the placement of the energy centers so that the scientific precision of this practice is brought into question. Like most scientific attempts at precision, it fails to take into account the unique qualities of each creation."

       I burst out laughing so that tears splattered over the pages of the book, as I had long ago abandoned the standard method of point selection and location in favor of a much more intuitive approach.

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[Plenum]

thanks for sharing herald.  That's a great story.

also awesome to hear about your transition YinYang.  

[ricdaw]

Formerly a practicing lawyer for the State of Oregon in workers compensation. 15 years. A two year break to study the Seth Material, reiki, OBE, chakras, the tarot and the contents of 700 books. Then started over with the State of Colorado as an admin at the Board of Nursing, then on to Medicaid managed care. Now I work for the Feds in Seattle, a Medicaid health insurance specialist. Someone needs to keep the paper moving, eh? Husband is freelance PR and advertising. We do okay.

[Chandlersdad]

I am a male exotic dancer. I do pole dancing wearing hiking boots, a strategically placed tool belt and a construction worker's hat. I also do a dynamite nude act with a buzz saw.

Seriously, I was a computer analyst-programmer for years, then became the manager of the group until retirement. Since then I volunteered with a non-profit hospice, became a Chaplain at Unity Church, and brought toys to sick kids in the hospital. Then I became seriously ill for awhile (as repressed catalyst got the best of me). Now I charm people with my witty banter on Facebook, l eat right to keep myself regular, read metaphysical books, take care of my husband and golden retriever, and study the Ra material.

[Chandlersdad]

Who am I? I am a little sparkle in god's eye.

Here in 3 D, I am a nameless entity trying to learn the truth so I can get the hell out of here and not need to return. It is so very beautiful here, but the humans are often batshit insane.

[YinYang]

I was actually hoping you'd consider stand up comedy, there must be loads of comedy bars in LA. I can even pinpoint your specific genre; the New Age and conspiracy crowd. You'll fill every seat in the house, I swear! Something along the lines of George Carlin.

[Glow]

So that said, maybe I should start a thread named "Who are you".

This is closely related to identification. People's jobs are among the things they are most identified with in themselves, along with nationality. Spiritual evolution for me goes hand in hand with losing all my identifications, it really is a very liberating process, and thus far an endless one. The more they fall away the freer you feel. Once you start exploring, they're everywhere, some deeply entrenched and unconscious. It's also closely related to detachment in Buddhism, Buddha called it "the end of suffering".

That will be a great thread by the way, you will see how people struggle with not identifying with form. Eckhart Tolle talks about this in his books quite a bit.

I've just started reading 'A New Earth' and while I'm still struggling to wrap my head around just exactly what Eckhart is trying to say, I feel as though a lot of what he says is valid.  My biggest issue though, and maybe this is a misunderstanding on my behalf, is that he talks about dissolving the ego, which as discussed in another recent thread may not even be possible or even ideal. 

They way I have understood his work is that once you stop identifying/dissociate from this ego, you start then identifying with your essence, which is oneness itself and who you truly are.  You are then identifying with something real, rather than something illusory.  And that is where dis-identifying from things comes in, be it your job, nationality, religion etc.  I guess the idea is that once you have stripped yourself of all that is unreal, than all that is left is what is real.  It sounds nice, but I don't know how true it is.    

I think I got a good portion there and it wasn't conducive for me with staying in the world.
To be here you have to relate to people on some level or well social interaction lose their meaning for both you and the otherselves. It's fine I'm happy and ready to leave, but since I must stay there is some ego needed to keep you interacting. At least that is what I found.

To far out the door with only part of one foot still here makes staying very conflicting.
Eckarts situation may be different because as a guru he has endless people to interact with and no perticularl need to for permanent social bonds, nor any consern for money because of his books.

Just my opinion .

[Glow]

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I have worked in the USA since I was 15 years old with no breaks during school- I am now 52. I was in construction and restaurants for many years, but at the age of 22 I began studying massage and oriental medicine. When I graduated I worked part time doing acupuncture and part time waiting tables. by 1999 I operated one of the busiest clinics in the US, but it was owned by someone else. Eleven years ago my wife and I opened our own clinic, where we keep our rates low so everyone can afford the massage and acupuncture. It's been a great honor/pleasure over these decades of meeting and speaking directly with well over ten thousand people -most every one of them happy to be there for the treatments. I know this is not an option for everyone, so I appreciate the opportunity I have even more because of that.

It may be of interest to some here that when I read this in The Law of One regarding acupuncture:  

". . . However, it is to be noted that there are most often anomalies in the placement of the energy centers so that the scientific precision of this practice is brought into question. Like most scientific attempts at precision, it fails to take into account the unique qualities of each creation."

       I burst out laughing so that tears splattered over the pages of the book, as I had long ago abandoned the standard method of point selection and location in favor of a much more intuitive approach.

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The point selection thing is pretty interesting. I know nerves are different but no ER or dentist has been able to locate correct nerves to numb me when needed. I've just accepted I'm wired a bit different,

It would sure be nice to have someone intuitively find the correct injection spot because the anatomy books are consistently wrong about my wiring.

[herald]

Numbing doesn't work for me either. Its probably that your nervous system is too efficient at cleansing, and won't accept the agent.

[Glow]

Numbing doesn't work for me either. Its probably that your nervous system is too efficient at cleansing, and won't accept the agent.

Well that is quite interesting. I hadn't considered that. The only consistent part that numbs is my eyeballs. I had eye surgery so I'm completely greatful if something is going to numb it's the eyes.
That would have been hard to sit through.

[Dog Star]

i am pleased to be no one

[herald]

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Thank you Dog Star for your post.

In the first dimension we perceive "awareness". In the second we perceive "awareness of self". In the third, "awareness of other/self”. From the point of entering the world as a human being, we become "someone"- because other/selves exist here. The realm where anyone can be no one is beyond our ordinary perception. Here nobody can be . . . just no one: it is indeed the definition of our reality/illusion.

Our souls are experiencing individualization. This occurs more rapidly with polarization. In a world with mixed polarity (such as this one) we witness the interaction of masters and slaves. This allows for the left-hand path of manipulation and control. The right-hand path we here are on utilizes neither of these roles, though at times they may be played in the illusion, in order to maintain for the survival of the body complex, due to the need here for "money" for such things as shelter and food.
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-Here's a way of putting something that might get some pushback from the kinder and gentler of us here in this forum:
     
We, who are living here on the third dimension of The Earth are in the middle of a long drawn out proxy war between The Confederation of Planets in the Service of the Infinite Creator and those souls continuing in the path of self-service in the higher dimensions. When we hear a gentle voice asking us to think of this material, we ought to think of it as a siren, calling us to turn our thoughts immediately outwards towards the question of . . . "My Goodness!  I did not realize how critical I am here... How can I best be of service to any or all of these other souls who are also in this war zone with me, but perhaps with even less opportunity to experience the blessing of graduation from the third dimension than me?

According to Ra the time of The Harvest is now, and still only fifty-four percent of the entities are even "making their own choices [for incarnation]” [21.11]. That has got to be a miserable performance, right?

So if we are concerned enough about what is real beyond the “masters and slaves" part of this illusion then we wanderers, walk-ins, split dimensionals or adepts who are coming to the polarity of service through lifetimes of focussing our will upon our intention to serve others, must be the ones responding. All of these types are very important in the conflict that is going on for our attention during this easily distracted condition of third density [25.6-11].  We were allowed preferential treatment to select these lives due to “seniority of vibrations”, this incarnation comes at some cost to others. So I cheerfully hereby post my formal greetings to all my fellow soldiers, and welcome any recruits. Did someone say "Ten Hut!”?

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[Adonai One]

Chief Pricing Officer. I set prices, I help justify or dejustify what can be on the spreadsheets. If an exchange is a liability or defecit to the company on the basis of it price, I make ensure its managed.

If a price is not right, the company lives for expenses and belt-tightening rather than positive gains.

[Billy]

Chief Pricing Officer. I set prices, I help justify or dejustify what can be on the spreadsheets. If an exchange is a liability or defecit to the company on the basis of it price, I make ensure its managed.

If a price is not right, the company lives for expenses and belt-tightening rather than positive gains.

Adonai, buddy, what is up?  I miss your posting.  Good to hear from you again, hope you are doing well

[Adonai One]

As by my career choice and renewed sense of business having found my true home in Texas, I am determined to end my material problems rather than cope with them.

[Dog Star]

thanks herald, I just found comfort at being nobody, 100 years after my death nobody will remember my existence, it's quite meaningless and does not interfere the soul mission

[GentleWanderer]

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[AnthroHeart]

Eckhart Tolle like many enlightened people like to smile a lot and are generally happy all the time.

[herald]

My family has all read or listened to Tolle, but I'd smile all the time too if I was paid lots of money to fly around and talk to adoring fans.