I don't think familial bonds count in unconditional love.

[Glow]

I don't think most people are ready for this conversation but maybe here.

To me unconditional means for no reason and without expectation.

So many people illustrate this as mother/father/child relationships but truth is that(DNA/family/tribe)
is a condition.

If your father wasn't your father would you still love him unconditionally?
Your child another persons child would you feel the same?

If so then why don't you? We are all just reincarnated souls, blood bonds really are nothing compared to soul bonds so why love family "unconditionally" but not others? Because family is the condition.

[anagogy]

I absolutely agree. Either everyone/everything is your family or nothing is. Otherwise, the attachment is only as deep as the lower triad of energy centers. Easier said than done, as usual.

[Glow]

So nice to have found you people! Cough I mean other selves.

[GentleWanderer]

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[Aion]

Everything in life exists with conditions. Unconditional love, in my opinion, isn't loving without the existence of conditions but when you choose to love despite any conditions.

I think there is also a vast misunderstanding where "unconditional love" has been equated with "loving everyone to the max". There is also a dominant opinion of "spirits over bodies" in these kinds of communities where physical relationships are often considered inferior to 'spiritual' ones, which I think is ridiculous.

Again, however, I just have to make this point to your comment anagogy - "Either everyone/everything is your family or nothing is."

I think that attitude is the pinnacle of "conditional" love because it creates conditions for yourself and your own loving. Either you love everyone or you don't love anyone? Ridiculous self-expectation. This kind of philosophy can be damaging for people who already struggle with their own ability to love, and feeling like if their love is limited that they are "loveless" is very upsetting.

I know that's not your intention, but sometimes folks on here make such black and white, absolute statements that it kinda blows my mind...

[Bring4th_Austin]

I absolutely agree.  Either everyone/everything is your family or nothing is.  Otherwise, the attachment is only as deep as the lower triad of energy centers.  Easier said than done, as usual.

I must ask, do you feel that the deep love a parent may feel for their children has no basis in the green ray? Or child for their parent? Or even just as a family spends time together and grows in their bond and deepens their relationships, developing a deep love that is shared freely and without expectation with those they are bonded to. Is there no hint of green ray in that, however imbalanced and partially blocked?

[Glow]

I think what anagogy and I are describing is different than what you guys are.

Universal love/unconditional love is love for all. It truely is unconditional because you don't even have to know the being exists to love them and want the best for them, growth peace and love.
They could have been your murderer, or even think of those beautiful people who's child was murdered but they extend love and forgiveness to the perpetrator. THAT is unconditional love,.

Family love has root(security) sacral(tribal) and solarplexus(me/mine) so these conditions certainly lead to green Ray heart activation if the person is open to it BUT it had conditions to get there. No doubt it's a beautiful thing but what makes it so passionate is the red/orange/yellow springboard to green.

Getting to green with none of those is technically what unconditional/universal love is.

I personally surmise the family bond is where people learn to open green ray either in this life or other lives. It is a great teacher, a great cataliyst and springboard, but it's conditional unless you can extend that love to all.

I can love all but it isn't that hot intense love, I don't think it is suppose to be, that hot passionate stuff is the excitement felt at meeting those who resonate. Perhaps in other densities we resonate with each other so well that universal/unconditional love in that illusion is all hot and intense but here it's different.

[anagogy]

@Aion

@Austin

Let me address both of your comments by saying: I think you are reading too much into what I said.  I certainly did not intend it like you guys are implying.  Sorry for my poor wording.

What I meant was: everyone and everything in the world is your family.  We should strive to lean more in that direction (pretty basic and simple spiritual platitude).  I didn't mean it to sound like that if you weren't living perfectly unconditional love with everyone you meet, you are a spiritual failure and you might as well give up trying to love anyone.

I was just redundantly pointing out that we are all one, so to treat family like family, and to not treat others (strangers) in a similarly warm manner makes no sense, spiritually speaking.  

Though even family fight from time to time.  We just tend to get in the habit of not thinking of strangers as family, so naturally we end up treating them less importantly. Please understand, I'm not devaluing familial relationships and of course there are definitely green ray components to familial relationships.

I've just seen a lot of "conditional love" in my life from certain family members that had been masqueraded as "unconditional love" when it obviously wasn't.

[Aion]

I think what anagogy and I are describing is different than what you guys are.

Universal love/unconditional love is love for all. It truely is unconditional because you don't even have to know the being exists to love them and want the best for them, growth peace and love.
They could have been your murderer, or even think of those beautiful people who's child was murdered but they extend love and forgiveness to the perpetrator. THAT is unconditional love,.

Family love has root(security) sacral(tribal) and solarplexus(me/mine) so these conditions certainly lead to green Ray heart activation if the person is open to it BUT it had conditions to get there. No doubt it's a beautiful thing but what makes it so passionate is the red/orange/yellow springboard to green.

Getting to green with none of those is technically what unconditional/universal love is.

I personally surmise the family bond is where people learn to open green ray either in this life or other lives. It is a great teacher, a great cataliyst and springboard, but it's conditional unless you can extend that love to all.

I can love all but it isn't that hot intense love, I don't think it is suppose to be, that hot passionate stuff is the excitement felt at meeting those who resonate. Perhaps in other densities we resonate with each other so well that universal/unconditional love in that illusion is all hot and intense but here it's different.

I don't think you "get to green" without balancing those lower centers, so your concept makes no sense to me. Over-activating the green-ray will just result in imbalance with the lower centers, not magical unconditional love, imo.

Everything you love has the conditions of you being alive here in order to do the loving. No green-ray without red, orange and yellow. Even if you are loving someone you have never met or know exists you are still activating the lower triad on the way to green because those centers are stimulated 'in queue'. The way in which you are accessing those lower centers is by associating them with yourself, being the Creator. Thus you 'satisfy' the lower triad by the identification of the other with yourself, either as family or as the Creator and with those in balance the heart opens wide up.

However, any effort you make towards unconditional love necessitates the balance of the lower triad.

So, to me, it seems more like you're talking about the difference between a balanced lower triad and an imbalanced lower triad. The imbalanced triad will cause the green-ray energies to be stifled due to a lack of harmony and thus the green-ray will not properly activate at all. Once the lower triad is balanced the green-ray can be activated smoothly.

However, this has to be done with every relationship, every transfer, whether it is your family who you have known your own life or it is some random person on the street you see. It's easier to jump to green-ray with 'random' people or people you don't know because there is less involved with your lower triad. This isn't because the lower triad is impeding, it's because the person has hang ups in those centers with the people whom they are close with.

So, what I'm really saying is it just seems 'easier' to talk about unconditional love when it is towards 'random' people or people who you are not closely tied to, but it is still the same process and activity with those who you are bonded with. If you don't count your family and its bonds as part of your 'unconditional love', then I'd say your love is still conditional.

Hence why I think unconditional love is loving despite any conditions. The fact is that unconditional love doesn't always look the same because you can be unconditionally loving while still being passionate and I think that's where people get confused. There is a pretty widespread belief that unconditional love is unpassionate and impersonal, but I actually think it's the exact opposite.

Maybe it is that I only see there being one love. There isn't "family love" and then "conditional love" and "friend love" and etc, etc. There's just love. How you reach this love is different for every single person you meet. Unconditional love just means that you are able to reach love no matter who you interact with. It may be harder for some people to reach love one way that is easier for others and vice versa.

[Aion]

I just have a hard time grasping this concept of unconditional love when it comes to the self.

If you love "without reason and without expectation", how do you do that without expecting yourself to do that and without the reason that you want to do it without reason? I'm splitting hairs with words here, but that's because it's a key semantic point.

I understand what you're trying to say is "without expectation of return", but that is different than strictly without reason or expectation. Even if your reason is "because we are one", you still have a reason. The expectation is still "more positivity" or "more love" or any other kind of empowerment.

The fact is that we choose to love because we believe it is positive and it is delusional to think we are not gaining that benefit or do not have that reason.

[Minyatur]

I wouldn't link family with unconditional love in any way, since familly is experienced differently by everyone.

There are mothers that would die for their child just as there have been mothers that killed their child. For some parents are friends and people with who one can hang out, while for others they are people to avoid and are seen more as a responsability one is stuck with. Some families are extremely close while others can not talk for years or decades.

I think there are cases where the family as a concept is what is loved more than the actual people within the family. Afterall many will have children with their own idea of what a family is, their own expectations of what children ought to be, etc.

Some people have kids just to not die old and alone, while others have them by accident.

[Aion]

Doesn't your family have to be included in unconditional love?

[Minyatur]

Doesn't your family have to be included in unconditional love?

Of course but this does not put any condition. One can forsake his family to follow his path while still finding love in what and who they are, just as one's family can be part of one's path.

I think the ultimate act of unconditional love is to let go of this creation and let it be. To not wish to put plasters on the wounds nor create wounds in what has none, but to simply let what is be of it's own. The root of the original thought as I see it. So from this perspective I think unconditional love is but exploring what love is through yourself. You cannot fake loving something nor create a false desire to be more loving.

So even if some are part of your family or not, you can always only explore how you feel about others within circumstances.

[anagogy]

I just have a hard time grasping this concept of unconditional love when it comes to the self.

If you love "without reason and without expectation", how do you do that without expecting yourself to do that and without the reason that you want to do it without reason? I'm splitting hairs with words here, but that's because it's a key semantic point.

I understand what you're trying to say is "without expectation of return", but that is different than strictly without reason or expectation. Even if your reason is "because we are one", you still have a reason. The expectation is still "more positivity" or "more love" or any other kind of empowerment.

The fact is that we choose to love because we believe it is positive and it is delusional to think we are not gaining that benefit or do not have that reason.

I think it is more accurately described as a matter of having genuine concern for another's well being without that empathy being affected by the others behavior -- as in, you care regardless of their actions.  There doesn't have to be a "reason" why, or an expectation of yourself, or whatever, you might just feel empathy because that's where you are, or who you are.  If you care for someone but then they treat you like garbage and then you don't, there was love, but it wasn't as strong and unwavering as a solid crystallized green ray, which doesn't wobble due to another's actions.  To be honest, I don't think it is something you can just choose to do, rather I think you just reach a certain point in your evolution where you just aren't swayed by another's behavior and then it becomes unconditional.

It's like when someone attacks you, what is your honest emotional reaction? Do you see the suffering of the person lashing out asking to be healed, or do you just see some a****** who decided to be a jerk today?  I think after a certain point, you can't help but see that all disconnection is a cry for help at some level, which allows for one to see such acts of separation in a compassionate light. So love is more like "not being indifferent to another's well being, or lack thereof".  It doesn't have anything to do with expectation in my opinion, rather just "giving a s***" as opposed to "not giving a s***".

So maybe green ray is best described as just "caring", and when you "stop caring" your green ray has dimmed, and when your green ray is crystallized, you don't really ever stop caring and it is then deemed "unconditional".  I think it is very natural, at the human level to not care often.  But it is the goal of this density to eventually feel genuine unwavering concern for our fellow beings.

[Minyatur]

I personally don't think those of Ra have yet reached unconditional love, so I don't see how it can be expected to be done here.

You can channel from your soul a much less distorted form of love than what your lower self can generate, but if it was unconditional then you wouldn't be here to begin with.

[Jade]

I thought 4th density was the density about perfecting universal love, and then 6th density about perfecting the balance between that love and the wisdom to act in service upon that love.

I think crystallizing the heart chakra is about falling more in love with creation, so that serving that creation is the one true pleasure. It's possible to get past the point of self-serving pleasure derived from positive service. When you are in love, you can't help but fall all over yourself to serve and please your mate. It's not because it makes you feel good, it's because that's what being in love is about.

[Minyatur]

I believe 6D is not without distortions and as such love should be filtered and distorted still.

[Aion]

I just have a hard time grasping this concept of unconditional love when it comes to the self.

If you love "without reason and without expectation", how do you do that without expecting yourself to do that and without the reason that you want to do it without reason? I'm splitting hairs with words here, but that's because it's a key semantic point.

I understand what you're trying to say is "without expectation of return", but that is different than strictly without reason or expectation. Even if your reason is "because we are one", you still have a reason. The expectation is still "more positivity" or "more love" or any other kind of empowerment.

The fact is that we choose to love because we believe it is positive and it is delusional to think we are not gaining that benefit or do not have that reason.

I think it is more accurately described as a matter of having genuine concern for another's well being without that empathy being affected by the others behavior -- as in, you care regardless of their actions.  There doesn't have to be a "reason" why, or an expectation of yourself, or whatever, you might just feel empathy because that's where you are, or who you are.  If you care for someone but then they treat you like garbage and then you don't, there was love, but it wasn't as strong and unwavering as a solid crystallized green ray, which doesn't wobble due to another's actions.  To be honest, I don't think it is something you can just choose to do, rather I think you just reach a certain point in your evolution where you just aren't swayed by another's behavior and then it becomes unconditional.

It's like when someone attacks you, what is your honest emotional reaction? Do you see the suffering of the person lashing out asking to be healed, or do you just see some a****** who decided to be a jerk today?  I think after a certain point, you can't help but see that all disconnection is a cry for help at some level, which allows for one to see such acts of separation in a compassionate light. So love is more like "not being indifferent to another's well being, or lack thereof".  It doesn't have anything to do with expectation in my opinion, rather just "giving a s***" as opposed to "not giving a s***".

So maybe green ray is best described as just "caring", and when you "stop caring" your green ray has dimmed, and when your green ray is crystallized, you don't really ever stop caring and it is then deemed "unconditional".  I think it is very natural, at the human level to not care often.  But it is the goal of this density to eventually feel genuine unwavering concern for our fellow beings.

I see what you are saying, but there is a basis for the concept of caring. What does it really mean? We can say we want "the best" for a person, but when thoughts become actions how does that translate?

[anagogy]

I see what you are saying, but there is a basis for the concept of caring. What does it really mean? We can say we want "the best" for a person, but when thoughts become actions how does that translate?

I think there are too many answers to really quantify it. I think the word "empathy" would apply. Their pain becomes your pain. Their joy becomes your joy. Beyond that I'm not sure.

[Aion]

Now all that being said, it may just be that for me, it was through my family that I learned unconditional love, so perhaps my experience has just been a little different from most. I understand the concept of the separation, but I see it as a result of conditions within the life rather than being a hard and fast fact about family and unconditional love.

[Aion]

I see what you are saying, but there is a basis for the concept of caring. What does it really mean? We can say we want "the best" for a person, but when thoughts become actions how does that translate?

I think there are too many answers to really quantify it. I think the word "empathy" would apply. Their pain becomes your pain. Their joy becomes your joy. Beyond that I'm not sure.

I've always wondered where such an empathic 'chain' begins. For example, in a situation where you are maybe feeling decent and then you come in to contact with someone who has pain and then from empathy you might get or experience the pain, however, I wonder, why isn't it that they instead feel better or decent? How is one supposed to cope with continuously experiencing not just their own joys and pains but also those of all those around them?

[Glow]

I see what you are saying, but there is a basis for the concept of caring. What does it really mean? We can say we want "the best" for a person, but when thoughts become actions how does that translate?

I think there are too many answers to really quantify it. I think the word "empathy" would apply. Their pain becomes your pain. Their joy becomes your joy. Beyond that I'm not sure.

I've always wondered where such an empathic 'chain' begins. For example, in a situation where you are maybe feeling decent and then you come in to contact with someone who has pain and then from empathy you might get or experience the pain, however, I wonder, why isn't it that they instead feel better or decent? How is one supposed to cope with continuously experiencing not just their own joys and pains but also those of all those around them?

I think that's where balance comes in. I have had to work hard to stay centered. I am successful a few days at a time but consider that success. I empathize deeply and it used to sweep me away. Now I empathize fully but by staying centered and balanced I can pull them to my balance instead.

I mourn people's pain, even people who are not consious of their own suffering. Where they self loath I see their suffering beneath their actions. It nearly destroyed me.

Finding my centre so I am able to get back to it, I can help others better. The empathy isn't less its just a motivator to ensure I can stay balanced so I can help them rebalance.

I'm not an expert but it was something that was repeated to me over and over. At the time I didn't understand but it has worked for me.

[Aion]

That's a good approach, I think there are lots of different techniques for this. Personally, I experience energy very tangibly and in many cases I can see it. For me, I eventually realized that every empathic interaction is an energy transfer, attempting to move from one to another and back. I realized that so long as I can perceive that interaction I can stay "outside" of it. There are many cases where I will empathize and at first wonder what is up with myself, then suddenly realize I've tuned in to someone else and it'll just kind of split, I'll notice the difference between "me" and "them", or rather the difference in frequencies.

Ultimately, every energy that enters in to the system is trying to make its way up to the crown, although it may be discharged at blue. So I eventually realized that part of the reason for the difficulty with handling empathy what because I would try to "hold on" to the energy as I identified with it. So now, I have learned that the best way is forward, to keep things moving and transforming.

I basically view it that systems try to equalize. So when there is a strong charge in one system and it encounters another system which is in difference then the energy will try to equally spread itself across the systems. What you have to be careful of is being who consciously keep themselves in lower emotional states cause unlike those working from pain, that vibration likely won't be lifted by that approach.

[Glow]

I just have a hard time grasping this concept of unconditional love when it comes to the self.

If you love "without reason and without expectation", how do you do that without expecting yourself to do that and without the reason that you want to do it without reason? I'm splitting hairs with words here, but that's because it's a key semantic point.

I understand what you're trying to say is "without expectation of return", but that is different than strictly without reason or expectation. Even if your reason is "because we are one", you still have a reason. The expectation is still "more positivity" or "more love" or any other kind of empowerment.

The fact is that we choose to love because we believe it is positive and it is delusional to think we are not gaining that benefit or do not have that reason.

I don't think it's something that can be a consious decision. The reason is because that's who you are. When I was 17 I had an awakening. 20+ years ago and no internet I didn't know what it was but after a horrible life of every abuse I accepted Christ, and that night laying in bed my heart region grew very hot. It's actually the reason for my name. It felt hot like light. It felt like an expansion of light and I spontaneously started visualizing sending that light out to people and the world. That was cough 22 years ago no internet and I was in a Christian faith who certainly didn't talk of such things. After that I started driving down the road sending blessings to everyone I saw.

So from that I can only see the condition was me. No one else had any effect, the condition of unconditional love is within the one who is loving.

Edited to add I am no longer a Christian, the bible isn't a true interpretation of Christ consiousness in my opinion. It's hidden in there but covered in muck.

[Aion]

I just have a hard time grasping this concept of unconditional love when it comes to the self.

If you love "without reason and without expectation", how do you do that without expecting yourself to do that and without the reason that you want to do it without reason? I'm splitting hairs with words here, but that's because it's a key semantic point.

I understand what you're trying to say is "without expectation of return", but that is different than strictly without reason or expectation. Even if your reason is "because we are one", you still have a reason. The expectation is still "more positivity" or "more love" or any other kind of empowerment.

The fact is that we choose to love because we believe it is positive and it is delusional to think we are not gaining that benefit or do not have that reason.

I don't think it's something that can be a consious decision. The reason is because that's who you are. When I was 17 I had an awakening. 20+ years ago and no internet I didn't know what it was but after a horrible life of every abuse I accepted Christ, and that night laying in bed my heart region grew very hot. It's actually the reason for my name. It felt hot like light. It felt like an expansion of light and I spontaneously started visualizing sending that light out to people and the world. That was cough 22 years ago no internet and I was in a Christian faith who certainly didn't talk of such things. After that I started driving down the road sending blessings to everyone I saw.

So from that I can only see the condition was me. No one else had any effect, the condition of unconditional love is within the one who is loving.

Edited to add I am no longer a Christian, the bible isn't a true interpretation of Christ consiousness in my opinion.  It's hidden in there but covered in muck.

That is precisely what I was saying.

Although, even saying the reason is because of who you are, that makes it sound like there are people who are incapable, but I don't think that's true.

[Glow]

That's a good approach, I think there are lots of different techniques for this. Personally, I experience energy very tangibly and in many cases I can see it. For me, I eventually realized that every empathic interaction is an energy transfer, attempting to move from one to another and back. I realized that so long as I can perceive that interaction I can stay "outside" of it. There are many cases where I will empathize and at first wonder what is up with myself, then suddenly realize I've tuned in to someone else and it'll just kind of split, I'll notice the difference between "me" and "them", or rather the difference in frequencies.

Ultimately, every energy that enters in to the system is trying to make its way up to the crown, although it may be discharged at blue. So I eventually realized that part of the reason for the difficulty with handling empathy what because I would try to "hold on" to the energy as I identified with it. So now, I have learned that the best way is forward, to keep things moving and transforming.

I basically view it that systems try to equalize. So when there is a strong charge in one system and it encounters another system which is in difference then the energy will try to equally spread itself across the systems. What you have to be careful of is being who consciously keep themselves in lower emotional states cause unlike those working from pain, that vibration likely won't be lifted by that approach.

I think I used to hold onto their energy too. I used to be perpetually broken because I care deeply and am always the one who cares so people spill their guts, or just their energy. I closed off my of my ability to see and hear non 3D as a kid as they scared me so I am at a disadvantage not being able to see them for the most part. It's possible I am unconsciously doing what you describe I just have worked hard to find balance so I focus on that and it's funny how it can pick people up.

agreed about there being some I can't lift up because they choose to stay low. My goal with those is to just turn conversation to a positive one then leave. I don't know if it truely helps them but it helps me not be dragged down and I'm no good to anyone if they manage to knock me Off balance and if I don't do something I will carry them with me. Still learning, still working on balance.

[Glow]

I just have a hard time grasping this concept of unconditional love when it comes to the self.

If you love "without reason and without expectation", how do you do that without expecting yourself to do that and without the reason that you want to do it without reason? I'm splitting hairs with words here, but that's because it's a key semantic point.

I understand what you're trying to say is "without expectation of return", but that is different than strictly without reason or expectation. Even if your reason is "because we are one", you still have a reason. The expectation is still "more positivity" or "more love" or any other kind of empowerment.

The fact is that we choose to love because we believe it is positive and it is delusional to think we are not gaining that benefit or do not have that reason.

I don't think it's something that can be a consious decision. The reason is because that's who you are. When I was 17 I had an awakening. 20+ years ago and no internet I didn't know what it was but after a horrible life of every abuse I accepted Christ, and that night laying in bed my heart region grew very hot. It's actually the reason for my name. It felt hot like light. It felt like an expansion of light and I spontaneously started visualizing sending that light out to people and the world. That was cough 22 years ago no internet and I was in a Christian faith who certainly didn't talk of such things. After that I started driving down the road sending blessings to everyone I saw.

So from that I can only see the condition was me. No one else had any effect, the condition of unconditional love is within the one who is loving.

Edited to add I am no longer a Christian, the bible isn't a true interpretation of Christ consiousness in my opinion.  It's hidden in there but covered in muck.

That is precisely what I was saying.

Although, even saying the reason is because of who you are, that makes it sound like there are people who are incapable, but I don't think that's true.

I don't think anyone is incapable either. It's like have you been triggered enough to remember who you are. Catalyst !!

We all glow, some just don't know they do yet.

[AnthroHeart]

I think unconditionally loving is a choice, rather than an automatic thing. Even in those who have perfected it.

[Stranger]

I don't think you "get to green" without balancing those lower centers, so your concept makes no sense to me. Over-activating the green-ray will just result in imbalance with the lower centers, not magical unconditional love, imo.

Aion, I understand waht you are saying but I disagree based on my personal experience. The green ray cannot be over-activated. As mentioned by Ra, its configuration is of having as many petals as the individual is capable of possessing - there is no inherent limit, unlike with other chakras which have a fixed configuration. If petals represent intensity of radiant energy, then there is no possibility of having so perfectly balanced lower chakras that one's heart can be infinitely loving; therefore the heart chakra's number of petals must represent the intensity of radiance rather than quantity, if that makes sense.

In my own experience, I had significant imbalances in the lower 3 - a huge blockage in the third, in fact, as Plenum can attest - and instead of this being a hindrance, it intensified my seeking for unconditional love toward self and others, as represented by the 4th chakra. This seeking was successful, and then was used as a springboard to clear the lower 3 with some success.

Being the pivotal energy within our energy system, unconditional love is freely accessible to us but can be blocked in various ways by the other chakras in its expression. For instance, if I have a relational problem (2nd chakra) I may have difficulty expressing love in that direction, shall we say. But the truth is, the unconditional love available in the heart chakra is a very powerful source of healing power that can overcome and clear blockages elsewhere, by holding everything in the brilliant light of unconditional harmony.

[Aion]

I don't really agree with you. I think the green-ray can be over-activated by being put out of balance with the other centers, such as in this example.

The entity of Orion pierces the same violet ray and moves to two places to attempt most of its non-physical opportunities. It activates the green-ray energy center while further blocking indigo-ray energy center. This combination causes confusion in the instrument and subsequent over-activity in unwise proportions in physical complex workings. It simply seeks out the distortions pre-incarnatively programmed and developed in incarnative state.

The heart can be super intense and open but that doesn't mean it is stable and in balance with the rest of the system.

But again though, that just iterates the point that all love is unconditional love and it is only we who have projected the idea of conditions upon it and to attempt to differentiate makes no sense. That's why I don't think there's any difference between the love that is inherent in a familial bond and that of 'unconditional love', there is only One Love. The love of one is the same as the love of the other.