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04-04-2016, 05:03 PM
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04-04-2016, 05:59 PM
In my opinion, developing indigo ray is essentially refining what we perceive as "will" and "faith".
If you want the bare bones simple nuts and bolts explanation, that is it. Faith is the shuttle, bridge, or "gateway" to intelligent infinity. It is intimately associated with the spirit. To exercise faith requires you to exercise your will and vice versa, so they are complimentary energies. There is also an intuition component to it which results from tapping into the shuttle that is the spirit, which can connect with different levels of being and knowing. It requires an awareness of creator in self, because you come to an understanding that you are the creator of your own reality, and that reality and its catalyst are generated, created, and maintained through belief. But there can be many distortions of indigo energy. Atlanteans used indigo energy to create hybrid lifeforms that they used as slaves. Negative adepts use indigo energy for an increase in personal power. Adherents of all the worlds religions have recorded cases of their rare adepts who are so faithful that they experience mystical experiences such as levitation, faith healings, and divine visions. Even misplaced faith can be powerful, distorted though it may be. Developing pure non contradicted faith is no easy peasy thing and definitely a life long pursuit, but I can't think of a reason why anybody couldn't develop it given enough time and attention. It just requires devotion to understanding and refining the ability -- just like anything else in life. If you have pure faith, you can walk the universe with unfettered tread. Or perhaps, at least on water. ![]()
04-04-2016, 06:36 PM
Pure faith means overcoming the fear within us.
04-04-2016, 10:53 PM
04-05-2016, 09:50 AM
I would say that an interest in the 'pathways' leads to indigo development. Pathways are the 'currents' on which intelligent energy naturally rides; and so knowing the pathways allows a conscious redirecting/intensification of the chosen area. It also permits conscious balancing/conscious absorption in the other energy centers, as it becomes 'transparent' to the observer.
Most psychics/spiritualists have a random hole in their field which permits their activated behaviour. It's the rare case of someone who goes knocking on the door of eternity, and having it crack open even a slight amount. The archetypes were offered by Ra to prepare the way for these indigo ray openings.
04-06-2016, 02:17 PM
It's very focused work, and in the quote, Ra notes that it involves polarity, and faith in one's infinite worth as the creator. Ra describes Matrix of the Mind (will) and Potentiator (subconscious) as this:
Quote:The Matrix of Mind is that from which all comes. It is unmoving yet is the activator in potentiation of all mind activity. The Potentiator of the Mind is that great resource which may be seen as the sea into which the consciousness dips ever deeper and more thoroughly in order to create, ideate, and become more self-conscious. What that describes is that with each successful attempt at "penetrating" intelligent infinity, one dips deeper and more thoroughly. So it's likely we've all had moments of penetrating intelligent infinity, else we wouldn't even be attempting to look at the world through the eyes of a sixth density entity. But, the more dedicated one is, the more often attempts are made, and the more "thoroughly" each attempt opens the indigo, and the more reality takes on those affects. So, I think that most of us here have likely had "peeks" at the indigo ray, a couple times at least. The next step is about whether or not one decides that they want to actively crystallize the indigo ray so that the energy is -more- "readily" able to be tapped. Ironically, of course, this means one must spend lots of time in their lower chakras.
04-06-2016, 04:16 PM
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04-06-2016, 04:28 PM
Will could be likened unto the power of choice. And faith could be looked at as the empowering of that choice. Will without faith is doomed to fail, and faith without will is unconscious and misguided.
04-06-2016, 04:32 PM
Ra says faith is one of the biggest hurdles for those who seek to further their consciousness. Note that Ra also calls the 17th tarot card (Catalyst of the Spirit) "Faith" (traditionally The Star).
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory distortion of sound, faith, is perhaps one of the stumbling blocks between those of what we may call the infinite path and those of the finite proving/understanding.
04-06-2016, 06:03 PM
(04-04-2016, 05:03 PM)GentleWanderer Wrote: Ra says it is a very difficult task : http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2249 to adlib a previous post In Doreen Virtue's The Lightworker's Way Crown Purple ray - Spiritual Wisdom 6th spritual wisdom... i believe i am... part of the creator, i may be a tiny individual, but i sure can pack a punch. willpower, spirit, how bad do u want it to be and how big do you feel your destiny is. how grand of a scale.. this one is hard to describe. I can just say I've always looked at myself as a hero type with a burning passion to do what's right. It takes a strength of character. The song eye of the tiger by survivor kind of is like what I'm trying to describe... so I watch a lot of anime, and I suppose it is a large part of how I interpret and decipher life. So I will put in the lyrics to this song of an anime I watch lol... I think one of the characters in this show is trying to understand the sense of worthiness in the beginning. He is a very humble guy but then meets Luffy. Luffys like f*** these people, follow your heart. Colby is like what? I don't really get it how can you just follow your dreams? "WE ARE! (Episodes 1-47) Come aboard, and bring along All your hopes and dreams Together we will find everything That we're looking for ONE PIECE! Compass left behind It'll only slow us down Your heart will be your guide Raise the sails, and take the helm That legendary place That the end of the map reveals Is only legendary 'Till someone proves it real Through it all, through all the troubled times Through the heartache, and through the pain Know that I will be there to stand by you Just like I know you'll stand by me! So come aboard, and bring along All your hopes and dreams Together we will find everything That we're looking for There's always room for you If you wanna be my friend We are, we are, on the cruise! WE ARE!" I feel it teaches so many advanced concepts. which get increasingly simpler and simpler, which is why I enjoy these cartoons. SO MUCH >_< !!!!! I'm an anime geek I can't help it :\
04-06-2016, 06:05 PM
(04-05-2016, 09:50 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: I would say that an interest in the 'pathways' leads to indigo development. Pathways are the 'currents' on which intelligent energy naturally rides; and so knowing the pathways allows a conscious redirecting/intensification of the chosen area. It also permits conscious balancing/conscious absorption in the other energy centers, as it becomes 'transparent' to the observer. you just made me had an EPIPHANY! so this was the first tarot of archetypes introduced the first... manga?!/ comic book?
04-07-2016, 01:35 PM
(04-04-2016, 05:03 PM)GentleWanderer Wrote: What does Ra means by that ? I've contemplated this quote recently, as it has always confounded me some. I've seen many who interpret it to mean that one who penetrates intelligent infinity may then basically teleport around the universe, as if a superhuman. And maybe this is partly true. As Ra says, one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. But I think there is a more practical interpretation that is fitting for those of us flawed folks, perhaps closer to what Ra intended. Perhaps Ra intended more to indicate that an entity who penetrates intelligent infinity has no hindrance to their beingness. They may live their life (walk the universe) without any distortion to block them from being instruments of service and the love of the Creator. Similarly to Ra's perfectly balanced entity, this unfettered tread means there is no distortion within this entity's response to the creation around it. Its tread is not necessarily unfettered from the physical bounds of the universe (who knows though), but is rather unfettered by catalytic response. But it's tricky, given the context of the quote. In the same answer, Ra said, "The activation, while in yellow ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience." Hard to understand what exactly that means too, and what exactly the "next octave of experience" is. (Is it literally the next octave, or was Ra referring to a density as an octave of experience?)
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04-07-2016, 02:04 PM
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Quote:However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread. Ra could also be referring to the ability to choose one's path/existence/incarnations across the various dimensions of experience available. Being freed from karmic chains. That sort of thing. The more one becomes in-tune with intelligent infinity, the more they become aware of the options available for having experiences, and can wisely choose between them in such a way that fits their overall spiritual goals. I think it's important to keep in mind that Ra considers a single human life to be transient in the extreme and has a VERY 'big picture' perspective, at least relative to us. Whenever he speaks cosmically, I tend to assume he's referring to larger scales unless he specifies that he's talking about 3rd density existence. (But I could be wrong there.)
04-07-2016, 03:55 PM
Meditation, i think opens the indigo Ray. Meditation on the love of the moment.
04-07-2016, 05:05 PM
If you are alone in a dark place, like in your bedroom at night, you have to close your eyes and focus.
You can focus on anything what you see. Don't think and focus on the daily things that we all see on a ordinary day. Focus on these 'dancing light figures' when your eyes are closed. Let it collapse, energize it. Your eyes will be heavily blinking while it's closed. This is the hardest moment, penetrating the veil. It's like a space shuttle that penetrates the atmosphere, the most critical moment . If you do it properly, you will smash a hole in the veil and a tunnel will be open, that's the gateway.
04-07-2016, 05:50 PM
(04-05-2016, 09:50 AM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: Most psychics/spiritualists have a random hole in their field which permits their activated behaviour. I believe the bias psychic term for "random hole" is "the gift". I am also reminded of a film called poltergeist where an unusually "gifted" young girl becomes trapped in time/space. A reputable psychic is hired and she makes contact with the girl. She encourages her to "turn to the light". I don't recommend watching it though if one is apprehensive about the unknown. Carla spoke about a magic garden that she used to go to when she was a little girl, and I assume that her indigo was activated very early in her life. I also feel her innate longing for 'peace and paradise' anchored her experiences to a great degree. By the way I am not associating that film with Carla in any way. It's just that the metaphor of a door ajar reminded me of that film. And in turn, the gifted girl mentioned reminded me of Carla. Somebody once told me that blue is the only colour with depth, so indigo appears to me as a deep knowing of the self. It is the knowledge of self that illuminates all things, it is the sparkle within the abyss. So just as the light never fades. So does the eye never sleep.
04-07-2016, 06:17 PM
(04-07-2016, 05:05 PM)darklight Wrote: If you are alone in a dark place, like in your bedroom at night, you have to close your eyes and focus. The gateway is if you can get through infinite fear of the unknown. (04-07-2016, 01:35 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: But I think there is a more practical interpretation that is fitting for those of us flawed folks, perhaps closer to what Ra intended. Perhaps Ra intended more to indicate that an entity who penetrates intelligent infinity has no hindrance to their beingness. They may live their life (walk the universe) without any distortion to block them from being instruments of service and the love of the Creator. Similarly to Ra's perfectly balanced entity, this unfettered tread means there is no distortion within this entity's response to the creation around it. Its tread is not necessarily unfettered from the physical bounds of the universe (who knows though), but is rather unfettered by catalytic response. That is a good observation Austin. I tend to think your interpretation is correct, as well as the other (within a certain context). I think tapping into intelligent infinity simply yields access to more of what we really are: the creator. Certainly, even with access to intelligent infinity there are a variety of limitations to the physical human body, so wearing it naturally would not allow complete free walk about the universe. However, I think access to those energies while still in incarnation allows for what some would consider "supernatural" feats to be performed. By supernatural, I mean simply that: a super or even more natural order that precedes the order of reality we are familiar with which molds that level of reality. As above, so below, and so on. Also, like you brought up with the purified individual being able to move a mountain, or spoon bending, or other weird and spooky action at a distance. As for your second quote there, I have puzzled over that also, since Ra doesn't exclusively use the word octave to refer to only 8th density, but rather, any system of 7 levels. I tend to think Ra meant it in the sense of "next density of experience". (04-07-2016, 02:04 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: Ra could also be referring to the ability to choose one's path/existence/incarnations across the various dimensions of experience available. Being freed from karmic chains. That sort of thing. The more one becomes in-tune with intelligent infinity, the more they become aware of the options available for having experiences, and can wisely choose between them in such a way that fits their overall spiritual goals. This is also a really good observation. I really resonate with that. Walk the universe with unfettered tread could imply we, embracing our creator hood fully, are then free to embrace whatever we might embrace as a conscious experience in the infinity that is us. It is interesting to think about what happens to a person who has achieved enlightenment. If the ego is the sense of separation, and enlightenment is the dissolution of that ego (the line between self and everything else), does that consciousness then become identified with All That Is? That is what I currently think is opening up to violet ray intelligent infinity. Essentially what people throughout history have called "liberation". It is like a withdrawal of consciousness away from the specific and personal and back to the impersonal awareness of oneness as a whole.
04-10-2016, 10:20 AM
I'm going to leave this quote here, as a bit of a tangent, and offer my thoughts:
Quote:Ra: The purpose of clearing each energy center is to allow that meeting place to occur at the indigo-ray vibration, thus making contact with intelligent infinity and dissolving all illusions. Service-to-others is automatic at the released energy generated by this state of consciousness. Ra says that service-to-others is automatic when one reaches indigo ray. I think on one level, as we have all accepted it, it means that just the state of your being in indigo-ray vibrations is of service to others. However, from what I feel I have experienced with indigo penetration, I think the other level is that once one is unblocked there, service to others is automatic in the sense that you -really strongly desire- to -act- in service to others, not just radiate your being. Others will be drawn to you and ask for your help, and you will be able to provide it effortlessly and with the highest level of joy. This is what I've experienced of "service to others is automatic at the released energy generated by this state of consciousness": An intense draw and desire between your indigo-vibration drawing in those who need your specific brand of earth-bound service wrapped in the pure love of the creator.
04-10-2016, 03:59 PM
(04-10-2016, 10:20 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I'm going to leave this quote here, as a bit of a tangent, and offer my thoughts: Whoa. You have echoed an indigo ray interpretation I made over on face book. I made the analogy that the world becomes your bride (or groom), and you greatly desire your worldly spouse to love itself as much as you love it. That vibration draws facettes of your other half towards you that need it most. Perhaps our perception of indigo work is inaccurate, or perhaps it is not. All I know is that you have touched base, and expressed something deeply beautiful. The way in which you ended your post, exactly resonates with the way I ended mine over on the face book study group. If anyone were to place you too high, I would feel inclined to kick the legs out from under your alter. Because that's what a loving brother should do. ![]() ![]() ![]()
04-10-2016, 04:22 PM
I think you are very right, because that also has to do with the Transformation of the Mind and courting the maiden, it being the 6th card so having its energies within the indigo realm. When you open the indigo ray, you are so in love with all of Creation that you only desire to facilitate its peace and happiness, and satiety.
I think the Great Way would then be more indicative of when "service to others becomes automatic" - as the sphinxes pull the chariot without anything harnessing them to it. When you're in love, nothing that the maiden desires of you is costing you any real effort, because the only thing you really desire is please her.
04-13-2016, 02:04 PM
Something I'm pondering a lot lately, with regard to the opening of the energy centers is this quote:
Quote:Ra: The metaphysical and physical are inseparable. So as it pertains to the indigo ray....(personally I think I'm busy with orange ray, but anyway)...if you believe yourself to be the Creator, you would possess the will and faith to "create" in the physical. That can be anything that is your passion, your true passion if you dig deep, and create it in the physical using faith and will. This ties in with the "Significator of the Mind", and also requires absence of fear, or at least much reduced fear.
04-21-2016, 05:30 PM
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I can offer some insight, as I am going into the indigo ray and often stay in it, but only to be knocked back out on and off. I basically cleared all the main energy blockages and attained clarity and determination in my identity and mission as a human being. Though I still find myself confronted with the same irritations/grievances that knock me out of that unconditional love that empowers the movement into the indigo ray. It is clear that this is catalyst that needs to be processed, and I am working on it. I have become aware that anything that knocks me out of the happy place (the joy and love of being in indigo) is catalyst and is appreciated.
Though I would say that I am "in" about 20% of the time, I still have a ways to go before I am in most of the time. I can describe what it is like to be in some degree of intelligent infinity. As an example, yesterday I did a meditation based on rebirthing and spiritual energetics. I was able to enter a deep calm state and go into alpha or possibly theta. I was still aware of my body and breathing, but had basically a lucid dream in which I was reading a book purely with my mind. I understood some of the words but could not bring them back into the beta state when I woke myself up. And, I know that was not the intention. Q'uo has said that time spent in silence, deep meditation, or intelligent infinity will result in information being revealed through intuition throughout the day. Seth also said that dreams are downloads of information, and even if the dream is not remembered, the person will "get the message." So I take these frequent book-reading dreams as that; I am receiving an information download that will further empower me and be revealed through intuition. Some of this information gained through intuition is that to go further spiritually, I need to do a few things. One, clear and balance the grievances that are knocking me out of indigo. Two, spend a significant amount of time each day in the calm/silent/energy channeling state. Three, radiate unconditional love throughout the day, focusing on being an open channel rather than a pump. Doing these will rapidly accelerate my growth, and enable a more powerful spiritual mission in this life.
04-21-2016, 08:56 PM
When accessing indigo ray are you supposed to be feeling like a strap is tightened around your head? What about crushing dense feelings within the 3rd eye?
04-21-2016, 09:12 PM
(04-21-2016, 08:56 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: When accessing indigo ray are you supposed to be feeling like a strap is tightened around your head? What about crushing dense feelings within the 3rd eye? During specific meditations to open or strengthen the third eye, sensations can be felt in the forehead or even the brain. I have no ideas about crushing dense feelings. Being in the indigo ray is more of a state of being than the magical experience of contacting intelligent infinity. It can be determined where a person is residing in the energy centers based on their state of being and approach to life. For those who are struggling and are preoccupied with survival, sense of self, will, focus, and society, they are probably in the lower energy centers. Once these preoccupations and blockages are cleared, it is possible to move into the open heart. At this point the person learns the lessons of unconditional love and compassion. The blue ray can be easily moved into and at this point, the person is able to communicate effectively, and develop a creative passion for life. At the point that the person moves into indigo ray, the sense of self in relation to spirituality, the creation, the Creator, and a mission or purpose in life becomes clear. As the purity of vibration increases, these senses/identities become clearer, and it is easier to come into contact with the Creator.
04-21-2016, 09:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-21-2016, 09:17 PM by chaospanda.)
In a nutshell, being in the green ray has a sense of love, compassion, and empathy. Being in blue ray enables clear communication and expression of self through creative endeavors. Being in indigo ray enables a pure, unadulterated joy, a clear purpose and mission in life, and a full sense of self and other self as Creator.
I have reached that point, but get frequently knocked out of it due to grudges/grievances that I haven't completely cleared. When I am not occupied with these, I can calm myself and call upon extra energy related to joy and radiant love.
04-21-2016, 09:19 PM
@gemini
Sounds more like blockage to me. I'm no expert but when it opens the feeling for me is one of pressure releasing and then usually intense visualization, or feeling like you can see through closed eyelids. Sounds like you are summoning a lot of energy but it is being blocked causing the constricting feeling.
04-21-2016, 09:24 PM
(04-21-2016, 09:19 PM)anagogy Wrote: @gemini 50.12 Questioner: Each of us feel, in meditation, energy on the head in various places. Could you tell me what this is, and what it signifies, and what the various places that we feel it signify? Ra: I am Ra. Forgetting the pyramid will be of aid to you in the study of these experiences. The instreamings of energy are felt by the energy centers which need, and are prepared for, activation. Thus those who feel the stimulation at violet-ray level are getting just that. Those feeling it within the forehead between the brows are experiencing indigo ray and so forth. Those experiencing tinglings and visual images are having some blockage in the energy center being activated and thus the electrical body spreads this energy out and its effect is diffused. Sensations in the area of the chakra can correspond to strengthening, opening, and overcoming blockages. This can be done with intention or as a natural result of spiritual processes taking place.
04-25-2016, 08:44 AM
The Alanteans were masters in opening the indigo ray. Khan and Rasputin had some knowledge and memories.
04-25-2016, 09:30 AM
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