Winning the Lottery

[Sabou]

Simply put, would you want to win the lottery jackpot? 

Even if it could be private without any media coverage etc. no one having to know

[outerheaven]

Mo' money, mo' problems.

[Sabou]

Mo' money, mo' problems.

Is that always the case ? 

[Plenum]

Simply put, would you want to win the lottery jackpot? 

well, the thing is, to actually be in line to 'win the lottery', I guess one would have to be willing to at least make a token effort to 'win'; that is, buy a ticket.

that's a question of sacrificing some of your income in the hopes of a big gamble.  That kind of mindset is kind of disempowered - in that somehow fate holds the key to your future, and you are just spinning the roulette wheel, week by week.

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I suspect your question is more geared around some turn of fate, or some mystery inheritance where all one's money issues would be washed away in an instant.  Like 5-10 million in your bank account overnight.

Some people would squander than in a year or two; others might treat it as an annuity, and live simply to the end of their days.

Personally, I'm not sure it would make a huge difference to me.  I work 3 days a week, each day offset by a day in-between of rest (Saturday - Monday - Wednesday).  I get to use the internet at work to keep an eye on the forums and in chat.  24 hours of work - 1/7th of my whole week - is enough to pay my rent, food, and have spare change leftover for occasional treats.  I live simply, so I don't need a lot of income.  My lifestyle would not suddenly mutate to something much different if the finances suddenly shifted.  I would probably still come into work, to tell you the truth!

The only thing different would possibly be purchasing a property where I would live the rest of my life.  Rent/Mortgage is the single biggest expense in most people's budgets, and so not having that as a factor would be a relief.  

[Sabou]

Yes I meant it in the way you said, a turn of fate.

I see why you are saying. The reason I posed this question is that money seems to be a large catalyst for many, and lesser so for others. Winning the lottery would seemingly remove this catalyst, or change it - having a lot of money would provide its own catalysts potentially (as outer heaven suggested "mo' money mo' problems"). I personally see a lot of value at the moment in having the catalyst of needing to make money in my life and would not see the spiritual benefit of receiving a large sum of it at this point. It could potentially open up interesting ideas of serving others though.

[Plenum]

I personally see a lot of value at the moment in having the catalyst of needing to make money in my life and would not see the spiritual benefit of receiving a large sum of it at this point.

yeah, one of the reasons why i said that I would probably still turn up to my job even if I 'won the lottery' would be the social catalyst of being around a group of people that I wouldn't normally choose to be my friends.  It's not that they are a bad lot lol, but there are different personalities here with different backgrounds, and we wouldn't necessarily choose to 'hang out'.  But the social catalyst of dealing with others that aren't totally like yourself is both invigorating and unpredicable.  It makes life more interesting in other words

I'd also bring in two Ra quotes to say that having things too 'easy' (lets say financially) can be potentially troublesome:

Ra was originally talking the pre-Veil condition of entities having all their needs taken care of, and never having to concern oneself, because even if one died, there was firm knowledge that one would return straight back to the Creator, and could get another body.  There was little motivation to actually try.

Don made this analogy, and Ra concurred:

82.23 Questioner: It seems that you might make an analogy in our present illusion of those who are born into extreme wealth and security. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Within the strict bounds of the simile, you are perceptive.

this next quote is a bit more subtle, but quite revelatory imo.

Here's the quote:

The nature of polarity is interesting in that those experiences offered to the Significator as positive frequently become recorded as productive of biases which may be seen to be negative, whereas the fruit of those experiences apparently negative is frequently found to be helpful in the development of the service-to-others bias.

the underlined part is basically - give someone positive experiences, and they end up being complacent, taking things for granted, gaining an attitude of superiority.

it's a bit of a shock to read - and is very 'spiritually incorrect'  Basically, this is why we can't have nice things, because we just end up being spoiled brats.

so if we don't have some sort of financial motivation to actuallty participate in the social structure in some way, many many people would just end up at home all day, playing x-box, and smoking weed (very crude, male juvenile stereotype, I know ).  Not everyone would do this, and probably not many on these forums.  We'd probably find other avenues of seeking, that brought us into contact with other-selves.

[Bluebell]

i'd love lots of money. i'd be free of debt, i'd be able to help myself my family my friends animals even people i don't know. imagine how fun it would be to set up programs to help everyone, shelters, rehabs, schools, organic farming, free energy...

i'd invest and start companies to keep making money to fund all the projects.

[Sabou]

Yeah, I agree with you Plenum, it doesn't mean you have to change your daily routines or lose any social catalysts such as work because you can keep going, though I think it may alter it slightly because you don't HAVE to be there, which seems to make things a bit lighter.

[Sabou]

i'd love lots of money. i'd be free of debt, i'd be able to help myself my family my friends animals even people i don't know. imagine how fun it would be to set up programs to help everyone, shelters, rehabs, schools, organic farming, free energy...

i'd invest and start companies to keep making money to fund all the projects.

That is likely what I would do, along those lines, as I assume many would do here

[Bluebell]

i have so many ideas and fantasies about all the different projects. i just have to make some money first

i know everyone here would do something similar so i ask, y r we all poor? (and by poor i mean not Wealthy with a capital W)

[Sabou]

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[Sabou]

i have so many ideas and fantasies about all the different projects. i just have to make some money first

i know everyone here would do something similar so i ask, y r we all poor? (and by poor i mean not Wealthy with a capital W)

Well I don't think you need to be wealthy to do those things.

And to answer your question I'm poor because I chose to be... Stupid pre-incarnative me

[Bluebell]

me too i spose. if i'd been rich as a kid it'd have been a disaster.

[Berilac Sandydowns]

This concept is something I've been contemplating a lot lately.
It can sure lead down some interesting avenues.
And it meshes with Plenum's Spiritual Correctness post.

I'm still thrashing it out for myself.

But I think a very interesting possibility is that some advanced Wanderers, or others, may be among us who have pierced the veil.
I was reading last night in book 3 of tLoO (don't know the exact session off the top of my head) where Ra mentions "living as a god...".
Not something done in 3D. "...but there are exceptions..."
haha so the thing is, because of the laws of Free Will and Confusion we would never be aware of these Wanderers.
Would never be able to find out what their techniques are for remaining positively polarized. Should that be their Way.

In my own contemplations, following every thought and idea as far as I can, it's extremely difficult to remain in a totally positively polarized mind set.
The temptation for just a little more is almost overwhelmimg.

I'd love the opportunity to see how well I could do though. :p

ETA: "Oh Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
My friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends..." Janis Joplin

[Aion]

We're expecting to win any week now.

[Parsons]

I wouldn't mind a large enough sum of money to clear up my red-ray concerns. Of course, I have a pact with myself to shift the time spent on providing for myself into something equally or even a more productive use of catalyst. I would continue to work on SOMETHING. As Plenum mentioned, I think it is critical you interact with others on a regular basis or your yellow-ray will suffer.

[Lighthead]

I wouldn't mind winning the lottery if it were private. It would solve a lot of my financial problems. But it seems like my financial problems could be clearing up pretty soon.

If it were private, I wouldn't see the problem of people hounding you for money as much. Although, I'm sure that there's always a way for people to find out.

[Jeremy]

My girlfriend and I have discussed this and there are a host of things we would love to do with that kind of money. We would set up a mobile xray company to fly to regions where they don't have access to such equipment. We would look into possibly joining up wth doctors without borders and see where medical care is the most needed and help in anyway possible. Maybe even help build hospitals. 

I've always thought about taking all the wasted food from,  say a cafeteria or other surrounding restaurants and grocery stores, rent a big building or food truck to serve it to the homeless or needy. 

I mean the options are pretty limitless when you've been blessed with that kind of money 

[Reaper]

Would I want a giant ton of money? Hecks, yeah.

My obvious first expenditure would be to pay off all my debts (mortgage, credit card, bank loans, etc.), then to pay off the debts of my parents and inlaws, considering all the money they invested in my and my husband's upbringing.

After that I would travel the world. Not just the tourist hotspots- I'd delve deep into foreign cultures. It's something I've always wanted to do, yet on my budget I can barely afford to leave the state.

It may seem selfish that I wouldn't give it all to the poor or invest it in some charity, but I feel that pursuing my lifelong dream and gaining a larger perspective of Earth and humanity in the process would still count as great service.

[Bluebell]

ur experience enriches us all

[isis]

Simply put, would you want to win the lottery jackpot? 

Even if it could be private without any media coverage etc. no one having to know

Who, in their right mind, wouldn't want to win the lottery jackpot?

I've never purchased a lottery ticket - not even the scratch-off kind...I was given a scratch-off one last x-mas, though, & won $10.

[Sabou]

Who, in their right mind, wouldn't want to win the lottery jackpot?

it is a good question, I honestly do not know if I would want to.