Ra-horakte

[unity100]

what does that mean ? is it a name ? is it a name for what ?

[Ali Quadir]

I think Horakhty is the more common english spelling.
In later egypt Ra was merged with horus to became Ra-horakhty.

I'm not too much of an egyptologist. But I believe they did that merging of Gods more often. I guess it happened probably more from political motivations than from theological ones. The same happened with Amun-ra and Atum-ra.

[Questioner]

Where did you come across the word? I don't recall encountering it before. Just curious.

[Peregrinus]

I have read it meant "Ra of the Horizon", which in the sense that it was used by Akhenaten* meant that he was a prophet, or as we might understand it now, he had either dreams, visions, or channelled Ra.

*Akhenaten means in Egyptian "he is agreeable (Akhen-) to the sun-disk (-aten)."

In the following picture, the hands of Ra are seen providing life (extending the Ankh) from the sun (out of picture). It was/is thought the hands were symbolic, but we may view this understanding differently as them being part of the social memory complex.

2.2 Ra: ...In the Eighteenth Dynasty, as it is known in your records of space/time distortions, we were able to contact a pharaoh, as you would call him. The man was small in life-experience on your plane and was a … what this instrument would call, Wanderer. Thus, this mind/body/spirit complex received our communication distortions and was able to blend his distortions with our own. This young entity had been given a vibratory complex of sound which vibrated in honor of a prosperous god, as this mind/body complex, which we call instrument for convenience, would call “Ammon.” The entity decided that this name, being in honor of one among many gods, was not acceptable for inclusion in his vibratory sound complex. Thus, he changed his name to one which honored the sun disc. This distortion, called “Aten,” was a close distortion to our reality as we understand our own nature of mind/body/spirit complex distortion. However, it does not come totally into alignment with the intended teach/learning which was sent. This entity, Ikhnaton, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual vibration and thus decreed the Law of One.

However, this entity’s beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The peoples continued in their beliefs. When this entity was no longer in this density, again the polarized beliefs in the many gods came into their own and continued so until the one known as Mohammed delivered the peoples into a more intelligible distortion of mind/body/spirit relationships.

Amunhotep (IV) changed his name to Akhenaten. Note: The Law of One Materials could be corrected on the spelling though this is not of great importance.

[unity100]

Where did you come across the word? I don't recall encountering it before. Just curious.

in the dream 1 night ago. where in some place suddenly numerous (30-40) negative entities manifested (aside from the feeling they gave they were signified with the 'rogue' archetype - im playing wow these days, in it rogue is a class wearing red-black clothes) and started stabbing and killing people, including me.

the bastard stabbing me from left side of my back was pushing it hard, when it saw that i didnt die, it pushed it even harder. the pain was solid there. i was about to leave body, knowing that this was time/space, and i wouldnt really die (at least in physical sense). but just as i was leaving, i decided not to, called 'ra-horakte', manifested heavily in the body (at this point the pain was gone naturally), and with my right hand turned/reached to my behind from my left and grabbed the stabber in the throat while yelling 'in the name of Ra'.

this is not the first time this kind of thing happened in 'dreams' tho. there was a time in which i was chasing some 'darkish' looking entity by teleporting around in our neighborhood, throwing balls of light at it by saying 'ra' each time. i was bald, and wearing monkish clothes of white. was rather funny.

[βαθμιαίος]

That sounds like an initiatory dream. However, your response in the dream suggests you are fighting rather than accepting that which is being offered.

[Ali Quadir]

Horus is the egypt God of the dead of course. Combined with the image of something attempting to kill you his presence would be appropriate.

I recognize your dreams. My dreams can also be brutal kill or be killed situations. And I see that you at least in the described situations use your mind and mental powers to conquer those who try to subdue you.

Once I dreamed someone jumped me and tried to break my neck. I immediately changed places with him it wasn't a smart move or teleportation or something just an act of will that decided "it's not this, it is the other way around" and broke his neck.

Aside from the initiatory dream I'd like to suggest that it could also maybe be the conquered karmic memories from a less fortunate life. Conquered, since you're not getting yourself killed.

Did you have these dreams as a child? Were they different? And how did you respond to them? They were nightmares to me.

[unity100]

That sounds like an initiatory dream. However, your response in the dream suggests you are fighting rather than accepting that which is being offered.

it was just an ordinary stampede in time/space. not first of its kind, probably not last. i was fighting a lot more before though.

Aside from the initiatory dream I'd like to suggest that it could also maybe be the conquered karmic memories from a less fortunate life. Conquered, since you're not getting yourself killed.

not relevant, since i knew/felt that this was time/space, way before 'dream' came to this point. there were other, irrelevant events before these started kinda popping out of a 'portal' like point as if they were cloning.

Did you have these dreams as a child? Were they different? And how did you respond to them? They were nightmares to me.

as a child, my dreams were dreams, i dont remember all of them. however since 15 years or so, there were noticeable number of fighting and battles in various nature. this bit is a tiny bit compared to some other incidents.


there is some problem here tho. apparently i dont care much about dying in these situations. however when there are those who need defending, i fight. maybe i need to take the same kind of approach to defend myself in every situation.

[Peregrinus]

First off, almost always, all manifest beings in a dream are the self, and as such, a learning tool. Now you have given more detail, interpretation can be given.

To see an unruly crowd in your dream may signify that the worries and problems around you are pressing in on you, and you are expressing great distress. If these entities were seen to be negative, they were most likely the representation of the negative side of yourself.

To see violence in your dream, indicates unexpressed anger or rage. You may need more discipline in your life, or, f you enjoy the violence, then it points to your aggressive or sadomasochistic tendencies. The dream may also reflect repressed memories of child abuse. In particular, to dream that the violence is directed to yourself, represents self punishment and guilt, for you may be feeling helpless or vulnerable in some area of your life. Violence toward others in your dream, suggests that you may be fighting or struggling against aspects of your own Self.

To dream that you have been stabbed may signify a struggle with power, as you may be experiencing feelings of inadequacy and defensiveness, or may indicate that you are experiencing some internal conflict, and you may be making a bigger issue out of something than it needs to be. Alternatively, the dream may suggest that you are feeling betrayed, as reflected by the popular phrase, "being stabbed in the back".

If these interpretations are accurate, then you have work to do in the orange ray brother, the same as the many of this plane do (including myself), prior to working in the green and higher rays.

[unity100]

Symbolism in my dreams ended long ago. The most extent of symbolism that happens is now light symbolism to signify negatively oriented entities. it is not directly relevant to the occasion tho, generally takes the form of whatever kind of real world image i have at that time. apart from that, everything keeps whatever form they have in time/space, including the darkness of time/space. dreams do not fit within rules, they do not repeat themselves with proper rules. however these, have certain rules, even if they are way too fluid and sublime than space/time. the knowledge of there being a body (time/space counterpart) and, it being possible not to leave that body despite being stabbed, returning to the body and ousting the pain/knife assault, are not valid by space/time standards. if you get stabbed, you die. in a dream, not only such a knowing would be possible due to conditioning, but also there wouldnt be a thumb rule like that -> you could decide to return to the body, and yet in that instant you could find yourself at a feast in a fair, with your grandfather juggling, with swirling colors flying around a table etc. ie, subconscious stuff.

but these aint.

really. now come to think of it, i havent seen any dream since 15 years or so. you know, the kinds of things that are exceedingly symbolic in nature, too fluid, vague etc. not that i want to see such dreams again though, i dont think they are needed.

as for as 'violence' goes, these things happen in time/space. until the negative elements are removed, they will keep happening. physical counterpart of life is much less active than time space, so, anything happening in space/time can be thought to be happening even more in time/space. the entities manifesting there, are entities, not products of subconscious, not projections of dream-generating entities helping with dreams. at times i see living entities in certain situations, and the situations later turn out to have been similar at that point. such kind of things. ie, im fairly sure, it is time/space manifestation, not dreams in the sense we know.

i think i have a spiritual warrior archetype.

[Peregrinus]

One may drive down a road, see signs, understand what they mean, and choose to heed them, or
drive down a road, see signs, understand what they mean, and choose not to heed them, or
drive down a road, see signs, misunderstand them and thusly not heed them, or
drive down a road, miss all the signs, thusly not heeding them.

In three out of the four possibilities, the end result is the same. In only one possibility will the signs be beneficial to the driver.

I have also had similar dreams to you brother, whereby I had very difficult struggles with a powerful enemy. As progression of my experiences/knowledge/spiritualism evolved, I came to having a long struggle where I overcame the enemy and finally killed it. This was repeated with different enemies, and each time I became stronger and was able to more easily kill my enemy.

I will only suggest one final time and leave it at that; it is for you to choose what to do with this knowledge. The enemy is an aspect of the self, and struggling/fighting/slaying the enemy is as one does with aspect(s) of the self.

Just wait until you have women in your dreams. You may not appreciate that aspect!

[unity100]

these are not dreams, as i mentioned before. it is a long talk to tell various 'dreams' of this sort, in order to convey the difference in between a dream that is a dream involving the subconscious or various forms of teaching in time/space, or, an action, an event that takes in time/space.

time/space, is not a place for dreams only. there is an active life going on there, and due to its nature, it is quite a bustling place. a lot of stuff can happen during sleep, compared to space/time, because time is more abundant in time/space too. however this is a side discussion.

Just wait until you have women in your dreams. You may not appreciate that aspect!

there are women, females in my dreams, which i fight with, and even on an occasion go to missions with. not, 1, 2, but many male and female entities, who fit the descriptions of nordic aliens, or, ra's description of 5d entities.

once, i have seen a female warrior spirit though. what a sight to behold.

[Questioner]

...i decided not to, called 'ra-horakte'

Thanks for explaining the dream, or whatever is the right term for the vision or experience.
In waking life had you encountered this full name before you had the dream?
In the dream, how did you know the whole name? Did you just find yourself saying it?

[unity100]

...i decided not to, called 'ra-horakte'

Thanks for explaining the dream, or whatever is the right term for the vision or experience.
In waking life had you encountered this full name before you had the dream?
In the dream, how did you know the whole name? Did you just find yourself saying it?

i may have read it looooooong ago in an irrelevant encyclopedia or something related to egypt regarding history, but it is only slightly likely.

this is not the first time me saying it in a dream tho.

in the dream i didnt just find myself saying it, as i told the dream. there were a lot of irrelevant, 'daily' events happening before that, and i was walking around going from place to place amongst people before the incident. i called it after i decided to return to body and resettled in it.

[βαθμιαίος]

I have also had similar dreams to you brother, whereby I had very difficult struggles with a powerful enemy. As progression of my experiences/knowledge/spiritualism evolved, I came to having a long struggle where I overcame the enemy and finally killed it. This was repeated with different enemies, and each time I became stronger and was able to more easily kill my enemy.

Here's another perspective, for what it may be worth. On the positive path we are trying not to overcome our shadow side but to accept and forgive it. When we meet seeming enemies in our dreams or in time/space, a different way to deal with them would be to open our hearts, drop our defenses, and let them into our being. This may seem to be partaking of martyrdom, but I think it's actually an initiatory experience.

One meets the self in the center or deeps of the being. The so-called resonating chamber may be likened unto the symbology of the burial and resurrection of the body wherein the entity dies to self and through this confrontation of apparent loss and realization of essential gain, is transmuted into a new and risen being.

Questioner: .... The Transformation of the Body is called Death, for with death the body is transformed to a higher vibrational body for additional learning. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct and may be seen to be additionally correct in that each moment and certainly each diurnal period of the bodily incarnation offers death and rebirth to one which is attempting to use the catalyst which is offered it.

[unity100]

Here's another perspective, for what it may be worth. On the positive path we are trying not to overcome our shadow side but to accept and forgive it. When we meet seeming enemies in our dreams or in time/space, a different way to deal with them would be to open our hearts, drop our defenses, and let them into our being. This may seem to be partaking of martyrdom, but I think it's actually an initiatory experience.

so that they can come and stab us and everyone else in the face. hahahahaa.

well.

the deal is, there are times at which you can open your heart and deal with the entity in front of you with positivity, there are times at which you cant. and that generally happens because the strength of negative entities in polarization or numbers are much stronger than the positivity you can muster at that particular point and place.

remember that Ra says negatives are always 1/10 the number of the positive entities in the galaxy (so i remember it as galaxy), but, they are generally 10 times stronger in polarization due to polarization requirements, therefore, it ends up being balanced.

thus, in any situation in which the balance is offset, the negative entities would be able to take the upper hand, and proceed with their intent.

ie, an example of this is world war ii. no kind of opening, loving would avail at that time, since the strength of positivity did not match the strength of manifested negativity. entities had to fight, if they had to protect their own choice.

in higher densities it is much more different, yet, from what we know, forms of battle continue in the form of 4d battles, or battles that happen with shaped light in 5d. but, they do happen.

there are times at which i have managed situations by calling negatively inclined entities (whomever they were) to balance and reason. but, there are times that it doesnt avail. that generally happens when i am weak due to various causes though. stress, illness etc.

this, apparently was a situation like the one in which confederation (of this locale) wasnt able to accept the offering of orion ; acceptance would result in enslavement. they had no choice but to reject. in here, there was no choice but to fight.

in any case in this i fought with lent strength. it wasnt directly my own.

[βαθμιαίος]

so that they can come and stab us and everyone else in the face.

Yes, that's right. The heart of the positive path is acceptance. Dreams are opportunities to learn about ourselves, and the most difficult work of all is accepting our whole selves. The seeming demons that we encounter in our dreams are aspects of the self.

hahahahaa.

80.15 Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred. The service-to-self adept will satisfy itself with the shadows and, grasping the light of day, will toss back the head in grim laughter, preferring the darkness.

remember that Ra says negatives are always 1/10 the number of the positive entities in the galaxy (so i remember it as galaxy), but, they are generally 10 times stronger in polarization due to polarization requirements, therefore, it ends up being balanced.

I don't recall Ra saying that the negative side is ten times stronger in polarization. Please provide a citation.

[unity100]

Yes, that's right. The heart of the positive path is acceptance. Dreams are opportunities to learn about ourselves, and the most difficult work of all is accepting our whole selves. The seeming demons that we encounter in our dreams are aspects of the self.

yet, as Ra says, every catalyst will be evaluated in regard to survival first, regardless of who is doing the evaluating. which is only natural, since the catalyst enters from lower chakras, the first being the red.

there can be no positive polarity while there is no survival, leave aside freedom. a dead entity, cannot remain positive. as you see, it may be easy to forfeit the physical body for most 4d entities, but, such issues and events do not stop with the physical. if an environment is allowed to be rampaged by negatives, such acts will continue in any other density, and time/space too.

eventually there will come a point at which the positive entity will have to stop being positive, and go negative to exist and evolve, if the environment is allowed to be negative. we understand this from the example that is given by Ra in regard to a positive entity being deceived into going to a negative time/space.

but most importantly,

yes, negative is also an aspect our own self. but, do we allow our own self to destroy ourselves ?

ie, there sure have been times for any of us, that we wanted to bang our head against walls, or jump down a cliff and end the troubles, this and that.

even if these feelings are encouraged and strengthened by any negative influence (if applicable, not necessarily so), both our feelings, the side of ourselves that feel our feelings, and the (potential) negative entity encouraging our feelings are also our own selves too ?

why dont we just allow that feeling to take over us too ? and have what it wants ? because, acceptance is only positive ?

one may argue that it is ok to resist or defend against feelings. but, the principle at the basis of this isnt different - with feelings, the act, action, manifestation of the event is in a time/space form.

with a knife in one's hand in time/space, the act, manifestation is still in time/space, but, this time, it is in the form of light shaped by thought.

in physical, this time, the negative may have tanks and armies, physical substance may have replaced the knife, but the basic principle is still the same : negative wants you to yield to its demands and let go of your fee will and any kind of choice.

so, there isnt much difference in principle, in fighting against a desire to suicide, and a negative physical assault. in principle, note however. karmic consequences of physically killing an individual may be much heavier. BUT, if we remember the case of george patton, the reason he had to reincarnate as soon as ww ii ended was not because he have fought and participated in a battle, and killed people - > the reason was, he didnt see value in forgiving, and did not forgive. not even karma.

tho, it could be argued that his unforgiving approach, might have a lot of wisdom in it, for, the forgiven then proceeded to create much negativity and suffering for people after the war still. and from what we can gleam, the effects they created are still going on. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods - a minor example, but a good example of ex gestapo members and german staff being taken to american agencies first as counselors, then as members).

80.15 Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred. The service-to-self adept will satisfy itself with the shadows and, grasping the light of day, will toss back the head in grim laughter, preferring the darkness.

even the most unhappy of experiences, will be able to get light equaling the light of brightest noon, IF there is an environment that enables it to happen.

in a world that is allowed to go totally negative, there will be no sun, no noon, since what we understand from the example of positive entity being relocated to a negative time/space. the entity has to go negative, even if to gain potential to switch polarity.

just as in the dream example above.

I don't recall Ra saying that the negative side is ten times stronger in polarization. Please provide a citation.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#15

Questioner: What is the density of the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. Like the Confederation, the densities of the mass consciousnesses which comprise that group are varied. There are a very few third density, a larger number of fourth density, a similarly large number of fifth density, and very few sixth-density entities comprising this organization. Their numbers are perhaps one-tenth ours at any point in the space/time continuum as the problem of spiritual entropy causes them to experience constant disintegration of their social memory complexes. Their power is the same as ours. The Law of One blinks neither at the light nor the darkness, but is available for service to others and service to self. However, service to others results in service to self, thus preserving and further harmonizing the distortions of those entities seeking intelligent infinity through these disciplines.

Those seeking intelligent infinity through the use of service to self create the same amount of power but, as we said, have constant difficulty because of the concept of separation which is implicit in the manifestations of the service to self which involve power over others. This weakens and eventually disintegrates the energy collected by such mind/body/spirit complexes who call the Orion group and the social memory complexes which comprise the Orion group.

It should be noted, carefully pondered, and accepted, that the Law of One is available to any social memory complex which has decided to strive together for any seeking of purpose, be it service to others or service to self. The laws, which are the primal distortions of the Law of One, then are placed into operation and the illusion of space/time is used as a medium for the development of the results of those choices freely made. Thus all entities learn, no matter what they seek. All learn the same, some rapidly, some slowly.

the blue underlined part states that, their number is 1/10th of confederation, their power is the same as confederation. and there occurs balance. that means, an average negative should be 10 times stronger than an average positive entity ( of probably equal advancedness ) for there to to be balance. of course this last detail can be a matter of debate, but, 1/10 number = equal power equation, still remains.

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this is not a matter of acceptance by the way. you can accept the negative, but, you cannot let it have its way. because, doing as such, means letting go of your freedom, and therefore letting go of your positive polarity. accepting the negative as a fundamental part of existence and allowing it to have its way are two different things.

[βαθμιαίος]

You have moved the discussion from dreams to current events, Operation Northwoods, and World War II. I am not saying that in space/time we should accept everything negative entities want to offer us. As you point out, that would be foolish.

But this thread was about dreams. In dreams, it is appropriate to open the self to the seeming enemy. It is profoundly transformative, and I hope you will try it.

even the most unhappy of experiences, will be able to get light equaling the light of brightest noon, IF there is an environment that enables it to happen.

Dreams are such an environment.

Their power is the same as ours.

I understand this to mean that an individual negative social memory complex will have as much power as an individual positive social memory complex.

Have faith, my friend. "Glory in the strength of your polarization and allow others of opposite polarity to similarly do so, seeing the great humor of this polarity and its complications in view of the unification in sixth-density of these two paths."

[unity100]

You have moved the discussion from dreams to current events, Operation Northwoods, and World War II. I am not saying that in space/time we should accept everything negative entities want to offer us. As you point out, that would be foolish.

no, that was just an example. you shouldnt dwell on it. i gave it as an indicator.

But this thread was about dreams. In dreams, it is appropriate to open the self to the seeming enemy. It is profoundly transformative, and I hope you will try it.

Dreams are such an environment.

in dreams. this, was not a dream. anything that happens while sleeping, is not a dream. time/space existence and activities are not limited to what we call dream.

I understand this to mean that an individual negative social memory complex will have as much power as an individual positive social memory complex.

for the synergistic result of a whole that is comprised of smaller parts to be greater than something else, it is highly probable that the smaller parts of the initial whole be stronger in individual than the smaller parts of the other whole.

this, explains, why is it so hard for positive people to cope up and make do with negative people of equal character/soul strength.

Have faith, my friend. "Glory in the strength of your polarization and allow others of opposite polarity to similarly do so, seeing the great humor of this polarity and its complications in view of the unification in sixth-density of these two paths."

unfortunately, some of these issues are not in our hands. the influence of positive and negative, depends on the decision of guardians of this planet. we know that guardians (yahweh when they were guardians for example) can make mistakes, and errors of judgment. that means, it is possible for any guardians of any planet to let the balance of positive and negative go haywire.

but more than that, what will 'faith' accomplish ? what will faith do ?

negative, wants to enslave positive regardless of how it may. who will prevent this from happening ?

[βαθμιαίος]

this, explains, why is it so hard for positive people to cope up and make do with negative people of equal character/soul strength.

Actually, positive people, if their higher centers are functioning, are quite able to handle negative people of equal strength, partly because the positive path has the benefit of helpers and teammates. The negative path has to work alone.

but more than that, what will 'faith' accomplish ? what will faith do ?

Anything and everything. Faith = Intelligent Infinity (3.9). Ra says that the indigo center is "that energy of the adept which has its place in faith" (54.30), that "consciousness which has been disciplined by will and faith is that consciousness which may contact intelligent infinity directly" (80.20)

Faith is also the heart of the fool card (the choice, 67.30) and the means by which third-density entities can attain harvestability: "The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density." (82.29)

There are other uses, too: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?sea...faith&ss=1

negative, wants to enslave positive regardless of how it may. who will prevent this from happening ?

You and I, my friend, if we follow the advice Ra gave Don, Jim, and Carla: "Harmony, thanksgiving, and praise of opportunities and of the Creator: these are your protection." http://wiki.lawofone.info/index.php/Ra_Session_33 (note that this sentence was not correctly transcribed in the published version.)

[unity100]

Actually, positive people, if their higher centers are functioning, are quite able to handle negative people of equal strength, partly because the positive path has the benefit of helpers and teammates. The negative path has to work alone.

not partly, because they have the benefit of helpers and teammates.

i meant, when they are facing only each other.

Anything and everything. Faith = Intelligent Infinity (3.9). Ra says that the indigo center is "that energy of the adept which has its place in faith" (54.30), that "consciousness which has been disciplined by will and faith is that consciousness which may contact intelligent infinity directly" (80.20)

Faith is also the heart of the fool card (the choice, 67.30) and the means by which third-density entities can attain harvestability: "The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density." (82.29)

There are other uses, too: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?sea...faith&ss=1

yes and how precisely, does faith fix the negative enslavement issue again ? what is the mechanic ?

You and I, my friend, if we follow the advice Ra gave Don, Jim, and Carla: "Harmony, thanksgiving, and praise of opportunities and of the Creator: these are your protection." http://wiki.lawofone.info/index.php/Ra_Session_33 (note that this sentence was not correctly transcribed in the published version.)

how will the harmony, thanksgiving and praise of opportunities and the creator, will act in to prevent negative enslavement ?

[Aaron]

yes and how precisely, does faith fix the negative enslavement issue again ? what is the mechanic ?

It's not up to you to fix the entire negative enslavement "issue" forever throughout the universe. It's also not necessary to find a "safe haven" or "safe way" to proceed through life without the possibility of negative infringement. There will always be that possibility, no matter what. That's where faith comes in. By having faith, you empower yourself.

Q'uo says in:
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0402.aspx
(paraphrasing) that faith is the tool used by the third density entity to discover your true nature, and by doing so discover the ability to move forward on your spiritual path.

how will the harmony, thanksgiving and praise of opportunities and the creator, will act in to prevent negative enslavement ?

I've often thought, "If every human being in the world wanted one thing to happen with all their heart, wouldn't it happen? What would stop it?" Many entities harmoniously having faith in their standing within the infinite, creates a utopia/haven. That is the mechanism by which an area is protected from negative encroachment.

[βαθμιαίος]

i meant, when they are facing only each other.

Even when facing only each other, positive strength is equal to negative.

yes and how precisely, does faith fix the negative enslavement issue again ? what is the mechanic ?

The point is that through faith, one can contact intelligent infinity. Once that is accomplished, you can direct intelligent energy in any way you desire, including stopping negative enslavement. "The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed. The great work goes on." (6.1)

how will the harmony, thanksgiving and praise of opportunities and the creator, will act in to prevent negative enslavement ?

Remember that fourth-density negative interference takes the form of temptation. Harmony, thanksgiving, and praise will easily overcome temptation. If your light is bright enough to attract fifth-density negative attention, harmony, thanksgiving, and praise will cause your group to be impervious to that attention in much the way that it did for Don, Carla, and Jim until Don lost his way. It was the fifth-density negative entity's dearest wish to enslave Carla. It never happened.

Also relevant to this discussion, I think, is my signature (below).

[unity100]

It's not up to you to fix the entire negative enslavement "issue" forever throughout the universe. It's also not necessary to find a "safe haven" or "safe way" to proceed through life without the possibility of negative infringement. There will always be that possibility, no matter what. That's where faith comes in. By having faith, you empower yourself.

thats an incorrect way of thinking.

anything is part of infinite intelligence. the collective consciousnesses of all these infinite numbers of entities comprise the infinite intelligence. the seeking and stances of these entities, altogether, culminate in what is experienced.

if all entities seek a negative experience, it results in a negative experience. if all entities seek a harmonious experience, it results in a harmonious one.

therefore, it is everyone's responsibility, from the singlemost atom that is just expressing a rock consciousness as of this moment, to the entity which is returning to infinity through 7th gateway.

all has to take their responsibility.

I've often thought, "If every human being in the world wanted one thing to happen with all their heart, wouldn't it happen? What would stop it?" Many entities harmoniously having faith in their standing within the infinite, creates a utopia/haven. That is the mechanism by which an area is protected from negative encroachment.

that isnt a mechanism. that is a potentiator, a momentum.

Even when facing only each other, positive strength is equal to negative.

and how ? if average negative complex is ten times stronger than negative, that means, its parts will also be similarly positioned.

The point is that through faith, one can contact intelligent infinity. Once that is accomplished, you can direct intelligent energy in any way you desire, including stopping negative enslavement. "The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed. The great work goes on." (6.1)

aaaaand,

since contacting intelligent energy and then using it to control others constitutes what we know as negative path, doesnt contacting intelligent energy and then using it to prevent an entity from enslaving you, also mean a negative, controlling act ?

the entity wanted to enslave you. you used intelligent energy, to stop its will. the stoppage very probably happened through intelligent energy acting on the entity, and making it giving up the idea of enslaving you. you basically controlled the entity.

Remember that fourth-density negative interference takes the form of temptation. Harmony, thanksgiving, and praise will easily overcome temptation. If your light is bright enough to attract fifth-density negative attention, harmony, thanksgiving, and praise will cause your group to be impervious to that attention in much the way that it did for Don, Carla, and Jim until Don lost his way. It was the fifth-density negative entity's dearest wish to enslave Carla. It never happened.

yet still forces of light and dark battle in densities above up to 6d, with light shaped by thought. if we consider that 5d particularly, is quite a fluid, energetic one, that means that, 'light shaped by thought' is basically a weapon there.

isnt it possible that those who employ harmony, thanksgiving and praise, are protected by forces of light in these dimensions by these battling entities ?

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since contacting intelligent energy and then using it to control others constitutes what we know as negative path, doesnt contacting intelligent energy and then using it to prevent an entity from enslaving you, also mean a negative, controlling act ?

the entity wanted to enslave you. you used intelligent energy, to stop its will. the stoppage very probably happened through intelligent energy acting on the entity, and making it giving up the idea of enslaving you. you basically controlled the entity.

You haven't controlled it, and you probably haven't made it give up its idea of enslaving you, but you have refused to accept its offering of enslavement.
Here are some quotes that might help:

67.11 ...In the case of those with whom you, as entities and as a group, are not in resonance, you wish them love, light, peace, joy, and bid them well. No more than this can you do for your portion of the Creator is as it is and your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are. Could you, then, serve a negative entity by offering the instrument’s life? It is unlikely that you would find this a true service. Thus you may see in many cases the loving balance being achieved, the love being offered, light being sent, and the service of the service-to-self oriented entity gratefully acknowledged while being rejected as not being useful in your journey at this time. Thus you serve One Creator without paradox.

67.26 ...You have here a balanced and polarized view of the Creator; two services offered, mutually rejected, and in a state of equilibrium in which free will is preserved and each allowed to go upon its own path of experiencing the One Infinite Creator.

67.27 ...Glory in the strength of your polarization and allow others of opposite polarity to similarly do so, seeing the great humor of this polarity and its complications in view of the unification in sixth-density of these two paths.

yet still forces of light and dark battle in densities above up to 6d, with light shaped by thought. if we consider that 5d particularly, is quite a fluid, energetic one, that means that, 'light shaped by thought' is basically a weapon there.

isnt it possible that those who employ harmony, thanksgiving and praise, are protected by forces of light in these dimensions by these battling entities ?

Yes, we are definitely protected, but the battle is fought by fourth-density social memory complexes which, "lacking the wisdom to refrain from battle, see the necessity of the battle." (25.9)

and how ? if average negative complex is ten times stronger than negative, that means, its parts will also be similarly positioned.

I think you are drawing an incorrect conclusion from Ra's statements that "their power is equal to ours" and "their numbers are one-tenth of ours." The power of the negative is equal to the power of the positive because it's the same power in both cases: the power of the One Creator, which "blinks neither at the light nor the darkness." The fact that the positive numbers are ten times the negative numbers doesn't make each positive social memory complex ten times weaker than each negative social memory complex. The power in each case is infinite, and ten times infinity = infinity.

But I thought you were referring earlier to incarnate third-density entities when you said "this, explains, why is it so hard for positive people to cope up and make do with negative people of equal character/soul strength." In my experience, highly radiant people cause just as much trouble for highly negative people as vice-versa.

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You haven't controlled it, and you probably haven't made it give up its idea of enslaving you, but you have refused to accept its offering of enslavement.
Here are some quotes that might help:

still relevant ; by refusing the other entity's desire to enslave you, you have refused the entity's emanations, and was not able to accept it.

however, again, this still doesnt relate to mechanics. you have refused the choice, but, the entity wasnt even giving you a choice. it was to enslave you by any means it can use. by force, by control of mind, by coercion, by fooling, any means.

ie, in a 3d environment, the entity would do anything to enslave you. it is not offering you anything, it is not leaving you any choice. it is going to attempt to enslave you, regardless of your internal choice. but, through some means, you dont get enslaved.

what is the mechanic behind it.

Yes, we are definitely protected, but the battle is fought by fourth-density social memory complexes which, "lacking the wisdom to refrain from battle, see the necessity of the battle." (25.9)

that means, there is a battle going on, in order to protect your free will. it just doesnt happen by 'not choosing to accept the enslavement offer', but there is more mechanics behind it other than that, even not going to the level of the question of how any interaction with intelligent infinity changes things.

and in addition a sidenote ; it is quite possible that 5 and 6 densities on both sides are able to not join this battle, because, the 4th densities are joining it.

I think you are drawing an incorrect conclusion from Ra's statements that "their power is equal to ours" and "their numbers are one-tenth of ours." The power of the negative is equal to the power of the positive because it's the same power in both cases: the power of the One Creator, which "blinks neither at the light nor the darkness." The fact that the positive numbers are ten times the negative numbers doesn't make each positive social memory complex ten times weaker than each negative social memory complex. The power in each case is infinite, and ten times infinity = infinity.

intelligent infinity creates the manifestation, existence in orderly, discrete steps, as we are told by Ra. that means, things dont 'just happen', but, all have relationships and meaning. rations, percentages, measures ranging from the minimum polarization level to graduate to 4th from 3rd after the veil and the mechanics of graduation before the veil were there, already built in.

the fact that negative graduation requires ~90% self polarization and the fact that negatives being 1/10 the number of positives, but still being in equal power, add up. positives make up for their less polarization through synergy it seems, but in the end numbers add up.

it cant be a coincidence. and we are said that there is a balance, so that means, when it is said that 'they are 1/10th our number, but they are equal to our power, and hence balance is maintained', that directly implies that there is such a correlation in between numbers, and balance.

in regard to infinity, talking from the point of infinity is irrelevant. neither you, nor me, nor the negatives are infinite. and wont be until an infinite amount of time. if we all merge with all the excluded distortions, we may reach the point of infinite stillness and become infinite, but still this concept of polarization will be irrelevant.

for now, we are manifesting in a polarized 3-4-5 d containing universe, and these things do hold meaning, and calculations of infinity is not relevant.

But I thought you were referring earlier to incarnate third-density entities when you said "this, explains, why is it so hard for positive people to cope up and make do with negative people of equal character/soul strength." In my experience, highly radiant people cause just as much trouble for highly negative people as vice-versa.

no i was talking on the balance and numbers Ra gave.

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still relevant ; by refusing the other entity's desire to enslave you, you have refused the entity's emanations, and was not able to accept it.

Right, but that's not controlling it. As Ra said, it's a standoff. (25.5)

ie, in a 3d environment, the entity would do anything to enslave you. it is not offering you anything, it is not leaving you any choice. it is going to attempt to enslave you, regardless of your internal choice. but, through some means, you dont get enslaved.

what is the mechanic behind it.

Are we talking about a third-, fourth-, or fifth-density entity attempting to enslave you? The mechanism you use will vary, but in each case what you call your "internal choice" will matter. If it's a third-density entity, you might use the various political maneuverings with which we're all familiar. If it's a fourth-density entity, you would resist the temptations offered. Fifth-density attempts are rare. In L/L's case, they used 1) the banishing ritual, 2) the circle of one ritual that Ra gave, and 3) the holding of Carla's hand when she was doing conscious channeling. Note that she was only vulnerable because she was freely choosing to leave her body and could be tricked.

it cant be a coincidence. and we are said that there is a balance, so that means, when it is said that 'they are 1/10th our number, but they are equal to our power, and hence balance is maintained'

That's a misquote. Ra didn't say "and hence balance is maintained." Think about it. The light battle is fought by only three (out of 500) positive social memory complexes at any one time, and fourth-density ones at that. If the negatives were so all-powerful, don't you think that it would take more than that?

in regard to infinity, talking from the point of infinity is irrelevant. neither you, nor me, nor the negatives are infinite.

Not irrelevant. We all have access, through will and faith, to the infinite power of the Creator, and we're talking here about fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-density social memory complexes, which are quite able to use that infinite power.

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Right, but that's not controlling it. As Ra said, it's a standoff. (25.5)

the problem is, in an environment in which you are mixed with negatives, there is no standoff. they come and force you, physically. (any physicality of the relevant density of course).

Are we talking about a third-, fourth-, or fifth-density entity attempting to enslave you? The mechanism you use will vary, but in each case what you call your "internal choice" will matter. If it's a third-density entity, you might use the various political maneuverings with which we're all familiar. If it's a fourth-density entity, you would resist the temptations offered. Fifth-density attempts are rare. In L/L's case, they used 1) the banishing ritual, 2) the circle of one ritual that Ra gave, and 3) the holding of Carla's hand when she was doing conscious channeling. Note that she was only vulnerable because she was freely choosing to leave her body and could be tricked.

no we are talking philosophically.

political maneuvering would be a rather fine way of enslavement. world war ii would be a more usable example while thinking the philosophy of this.

leaving all these aside, what matters is, how the 'internal choice' prevents enslavement.

That's a misquote. Ra didn't say "and hence balance is maintained." Think about it. The light battle is fought by only three (out of 500) positive social memory complexes at any one time, and fourth-density ones at that. If the negatives were so all-powerful, don't you think that it would take more than that?

it isnt a misquote, i didnt quote the numbers joining the battle.

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Their numbers are perhaps one-tenth ours at any point in the space/time continuum as the problem of spiritual entropy causes them to experience constant disintegration of their social memory complexes. Their power is the same as ours.

one can judge that, the average number of 4d joining battle from negative would be less than the average no joining from 4d positive.

also, it is not required that all the parties use all their available power at that time.

however, the balance quote talks about overall balance, and it is as thus, it seems.

in regard to infinity, talking from the point of infinity is irrelevant. neither you, nor me, nor the negatives are infinite.

Not irrelevant. We all have access, through will and faith, to the infinite power of the Creator, and we're talking here about fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-density social memory complexes, which are quite able to use that infinite power.

still irrelevant - 4, 5, 6d memory complexes are still not infinite themselves. even this universe, is not infinite, when all the entities and all kinds of manifestations inside it are brought together. it is just one of the infinite numbers of universes and other manifestations.

moreover, there is still the question that how contact with intelligent infinity prevents enslavement of positive, without infringing on the will of the negative.

[Brittany]

The other night I dreamed this old Japanese guy just jumped out and started fighting me. I suddenly knew Kung Fu and all this crazy stuff. When I defeated him, he seemed really happy and said he was going to make breakfast. Lol.

I've seen a lot of symbols and words in my dreams, though from what I can tell the sounds just resonate with me in some way. They don't seem to have much application to the waking world...they more just help tune my mind...kind of hard to explain.

I've had a similar dream of being stabbed in the back, though I think I actually died in it...