Talk to yourself, write to yourself: Instant channeling

[isis]

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[I_Am_The_One]

My pain is not my fault and is the result of random catalyst and I take responsibility and honor for it nonetheless.

Screw you guys, you would be terrible friends. This whole thread tore me down mentally last night. I have less incentive to share myself with this forum.

No pain no gain.

You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity.

I, for one, hope you continue sharing yourself with this forum. I find you highly entertaining & amusing.

Adonai, I understand your pain. Please keep writing here. I love your point of view. I am sorry it tore you down mentally. I send you love adonai. I am one with you. I share your pain.

[I_Am_The_One]

I've been through a lot of intense social trauma in my life and going through these motions, as one would take water from the well (rather than poison it), helps release social dependencies and attachments. Mysteriously, I can't help but to have compassion towards those who cling to spiritual ideals above themselves: I find it to be a form of enslavement. Perhaps my compassion is misplaced but I still release this attachment so I may be in balance.

The imaginary spirits in my head tell me that I feel an inherent desire to teach "as I came here to do." My teaching comes in the form of great internalization of the self towards emptiness, The Law of Pantimonarchy.

I agree here with Adonai,on the ones that hold spiritual doctrine over there head. Sadly much of the creation, is like a stack of lego blocks. Each an opinion or directive, from the entity before. Or with you. Spirituality is essentially learning the creator or your self. I would agree there is nothing holy only emptiness. This manifesting in the sense, the creator is above any entities<-- (distortion) thoughts on holy or divine. These are pre-conceived notions for the most part. Much like the stack of legos. This is why, I find it essentially important for a being to find there inner self or true self. (aka- the only real truth) I dont need a test to make sure it exsist. I would most assuredly follow my inner self. Over any device or theory. I follow it everyday.

[I_Am_The_One]

I also find everyone jumping on adonai, very disturbing. Do most of us gathered not believe we are one? Sto here is your call. Yet I see entities actually throwing adonai in the dirt. Adonai rest easy. I will guard you from these wolfs.

[I_Am_The_One]

If entities exist, they will inspire your inherent speaking when you speak to yourself with a great intent to seek. Just "channel" your goddamn self.

If I can attest towards anything resolutely on this forum: Names are not existing, there is no Confederation, there is no Ra, there is only all being all in silence and emptiness, only true unity without separation of any kind.

This is where my work now lies. I don't care if the soul nor spirits exist: I deal in this stuff because its useful in balancing my intellect while making money and realizing that money doesn't really matter at all. I've gotten paranormal stuff from all this hoodoo voodoo new age crap but the true treasure is just an empty mind that is self-actualized. I'm done with the esoteric.

I don't believe in spirits anymore. I just believe this stuff is an interesting tool. I'll speak of Ra and The Confederation as existing when I've called them towards Earth in physical bodies in a tested and solved hypothesis, clearly defined. That's Science. That's worthwhile. This metaphysical crystal crap without any real form or function? Fodder only worthwhile as inspiration for your own internal, meditative work.

Identity is not contingent so much on naming but so much on that infinite diversity of life can be perceived within unity: A paradox that still screams towards it all being one being, a being of many masks yet one.

I understand how you feel. I find my energies "waffling" back and forth. I agree that there is absolutely nothing. I see that most entities think of the creation as a physical place only. They often forget that the mind is where most of the "creating" takes place. haha. I think you will get that adonai. I can feel your energy adonai. You are very very advanced. More than these people think. I also think that is what confuses you. I am the same way. I see things in such a different "light" than most people. Yet the ways they think the universe work or is. Confronts my energy all the time. So I must stay focused and not lose sight. Which can be very very draining. The creator is beyond are thoughts of what is right or wrong. what is good or evil. There is nothing holy, only emptiness truly.

[outerheaven]

To be fair, Adonai has been on a bit of a tear lately stepping into threads and not-so-subtly slamming people and/or their beliefs. I don't know him well enough to know if it's intentional or what.

It is a bit of a shame that this thread was derailed so quickly, as I mostly agree with his OP and I think there could've been some interesting discussion resulting from it, but ... this also seems to be a pretty classic case of receiving in turn the energy you put out.

Drop the dagger and allow room for others to walk their own path without being idiots or children or deluded hippies or whatever, and we might be on more proper footing to actually have a productive discussion.

[APeacefulWarrior]

Screw you guys, you would be terrible friends. This whole thread tore me down mentally last night. I have less incentive to share myself with this forum.

And this from the guy who was loudly proclaiming how he rejects morality, ethics, and etiquette. The guy who was proudly saying that everyone here believes in "hoodoo voodoo new age crap." Have you ever heard the expression "you reap what you sow?" Because this is what it looks like. I'm sorry, but given those cute speeches you gave, it's absurd that you're actually playing the sympathy card now.

Talk about being able to dish it out but not take it! Please tell me you don't actually expect other people to hold themselves to higher standards of behavior than you bother to exhibit, or to take you seriously when you refuse to take them seriously. That would be rank hypocrisy, and utterly childish to boot.

What happened in this thread is a direct result of your total disrespect for other people and their thoughts. Treat others with respect, and they will treat you with respect. Go around telling people that their scriptures and philosophies are only suitable for toilet paper, and they're not going to hold back in speaking their mind about your beliefs either.

As we've been saying, you are the architect of your own pains, and this thread is a perfect example. Be nice to other people, and they'll probably be nicer to you. That's the moral here, and it's on your head if you're still so wrapped up in yourself and your manufactured self-pity that you refuse to learn it. Yet if you DO learn it, you could probably find happiness and maybe even some people who will like/understand you.

That's your decision to make, but if you keep behaving as you have been recently, then you'll just keep creating more sorrows for yourself. That's the straight truth and, frankly, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone explaining this more politely than I am, given how rudely you've been behaving towards your other-selves here.

[Minyatur]

Adonai One, do you believe all is one? as that you are each person partaking in this thread?

[AnthroHeart]

I treat other people nicely because I am a nice person, and I don't want any extra karma.

[Raz]

Adonai One, do you believe all is one? as that you are each person partaking in this thread?

Thats what experience has told me and what I have come to believe within this point of view. "I am you, in another point of view" Not that it really changes anything other than making it hard to take anything in my life seriously and feel empathy even for the most harsh aspects of self. Drama is just not the same when every character is realized to be played by the same entity/source.

[Blunt Force]

sounds like advertisement

[Raz]

better easily amused than easily abused

[Blunt Force]

Talk to yourself about how you can become a poet. Like.. a real real one. With a book and a handclover.

[Diana]

What do you want out of life Adonai?

I want my mind to stop hurting so badly. I want the pain of my unconscious mind to stop already. Without any clear hope of this, I am left residing in the present moment to release the attachment to the pain and hope to normalize my condition.

Let me state this succinctly: Most people would have killed themselves already in my position. I would attest to that in court.

Dear Adonai, I understand your pain, though I will guess that you think I can't. You do not know what others would do with your pain or how much pain others deal with. This is not an easy place to be. 

I will make one suggestion and that is to embrace and not detach from the physical. You chose it as we all did. Your body is under your care. The mind—ah well, that's another thing entirely. I personally think way too much, analyze way too much, and feel sympathy and empathy way too much, and I end up spiraling down. I deal with it by controlling my environment but I know that's not a real answer, just a band-aid.

[Blunt Force]

I have it ok. You detest '3d'. You are not able to continue speaking about courts and band aids. You are to go to saturn's unreal jail.

[AnthroHeart]

I thought Saturn was a positive planet.

[Cyanatta]

Sounds like you might be goring the ox:

[Minyatur]

Just a rapid question, why do all that seen Adonai One suffering which render him negative only pushes more negativity on him? I thought you people wanted to become beacons of love and light, that's not how such beacons act.

[Jade]

I think it's difficult to offer assistance to Adonai because he comes here openly rejecting the Law of One almost in its entirety. I've started writing many things to him but I stop myself because he's diametrically opposed to the Ra material at this point and has not minced words sharing that opinion. When an entity comes bearing a message that they have the answer, and that it is exactly counter to the Law of One, how are those of us here supposed to aid said entity? When an entity refuses direct help (ie advice based on the Ra material) the next best course of action is to mirror that entity, imo, which is why Adonai gets backlash. Of course ideally as beacons of love and light we should be strong enough to overpower the extreme negativity, but no one is perfect all the time, and again, we get reflected back to us what we put in. When Adonai calls the Ra material fit for naught but toilet training, it's very little surprise that the responses to his antics are shitty.

In fact, he's even said as much that he wishes for us to reject him, to thicken his skin. I know it's just one refrain in his constantly mixed messages, but I do truly believe most of us have tried our best to serve him, many times over, even if he would disagree.

[Minyatur]

I think it's difficult to offer assistance to Adonai because he comes here openly rejecting the Law of One almost in its entirety. I've started writing many things to him but I stop myself because he's diametrically opposed to the Ra material at this point and has not minced words sharing that opinion. When an entity comes bearing a message that they have the answer, and that it is exactly counter to the Law of One, how are those of us here supposed to aid said entity? When an entity refuses direct help (ie advice based on the Ra material) the next best course of action is to mirror that entity, imo, which is why Adonai gets backlash. Of course ideally as beacons of love and light we should be strong enough to overpower the extreme negativity, but no one is perfect all the time, and again, we get reflected back to us what we put in. When Adonai calls the Ra material fit for naught but toilet training, it's very little surprise that the responses to his antics are shitty.

In fact, he's even said as much that he wishes for us to reject him, to thicken his skin. I know it's just one refrain in his constantly mixed messages, but I do truly believe most of us have tried our best to serve him, many times over, even if he would disagree.

Is there a difference between what you want to give him and what he needs to be given?

[Cyanatta]

Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel any emotional response in being attacked by the other-self?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

[APeacefulWarrior]

A good teacher tailors the lesson to the student. Since Adonai was rejecting/mocking anything related to the LOO, interconnection, love, etc, I saw very little point in making speeches on those subjects. So I spoke to him using his language and his logic, specifically to illustrate the failings of that mode of thought.

The first step towards change is wanting to change. I was attempting to induce that want, by showing his current thought patterns were insufficient and contradictory to many of his expressed purposes. If he recognized this disharmony in any way, it would likely motivate him and/or provide catalyst that would help push him out of the solipistic/nihilistic/reflexively self-justifying mindset he'd gotten himself into.

To be honest, I didn't even care all that much whether he catalyzed it as positive or negative. I'd prefer positive, but I'd still consider further negative development to be better than being trapped in a total philosophical quagmire, in the grand scheme.

I find that sometimes negative energies cannot be directly "converted" to positive, and that they have to be treated more like a flowing river. Redirect the river towards a useful purpose, and it helps to bring positivity out of the negativity. Likewise, if anyone came along and saw in Adonai a warning against falling into such thought-patterns themselves, that would be another way that negative energies could be redirected towards positive purpose.

[Splash]

"Those to whom much has been given sometimes suffer from arrogance; or rather the people around them suffer. Arrogance is doubly a pity, because the talents of the arrogant serve primarily themselves. The arrogant assumes his views and opinions are The Truth. In arrogance, natural confidence goes sadly awry. Rather than the self-assurance born of knowing his own strengths and limitations, arrogance admits no limits. The arrogant brooks no weakness in himself and may even secretly rejoice to find flaws in others. But imperfections are inherent in being human, so the arrogant, like everyone else, always has feet of clay, however well hidden they may be. Fearing exposure, haughtiness forms a hard shell masking inner emptiness.

The arrogant sees first himself. Rather than offering respect to all, arrogance demands respect from all. Dismissive, arrogance poisons all relationships: with himself, with others, and with the spiritual depths. Worshipping the grand but empty edifice of ego, the self-important sees others as less human, as cardboard cutouts, relating as I-It rather than as I-Thou, in Martin Buber’s apt phrase.

Like so many self-centered traits, arrogance in others activates the arrogance in us, or its surface opposite of timidity and self-doubt. Confronted with arrogance, we might erupt indignantly or we might lapse into dwelling piteously on our own limitations. We then infect others and the vicious cycle continues..."

http://www.innerfrontier.org/Practices/Arrogance.htm

[Matt1]

I hope you find peace one day A1, i think you are an intelligent person who has the same inner nature as all of us here, if you feel a calling to Buddhists methods and practices have you tried going to a monastery to discuss things with a Lama? I did that once it helped me answer some questions i had.

[Minyatur]

A good teacher tailors the lesson to the student.   Since Adonai was rejecting/mocking anything related to the LOO,  interconnection,  love,  etc,  I saw very little point in making speeches on those subjects.   So I spoke to him using his language and his logic,  specifically to illustrate the failings of that mode of thought.

The first step towards change is wanting to change.   I was attempting to induce that want,  by showing his current thought patterns were insufficient and contradictory to many of his expressed purposes.  If he recognized this disharmony in any way,  it would likely motivate him and/or provide catalyst that would help push him out of the solipistic/nihilistic/reflexively self-justifying mindset he'd gotten himself into.

To be honest,  I didn't even care all that much whether he catalyzed it as positive or negative.   I'd prefer positive,  but I'd still consider further negative development to be better than being trapped in a total philosophical quagmire,  in the grand scheme.

I find that sometimes negative energies cannot be directly "converted"  to positive,  and that they have to be treated more like a flowing river.  Redirect the river towards a useful purpose,  and it helps to bring positivity out of the negativity.   Likewise,  if anyone came along and saw in Adonai a warning against falling into such thought-patterns themselves,  that would be another way that negative energies could be redirected towards positive purpose.

That's good, I didn't mean to imply that it was good or bad. I was just curious to know why so many people who say they want to polarize positively give in to negativity so easily. 3D being 3D I guess.

[Parsons]

I cant find the quote at the moment, but I know somewhere in the material, Ra (in essence) states you can only be of service to others to an entity by offering what they are asking for. Example: for many of those still asleep, it would be offering distraction. 

In this case, it would be mirroring.

[Aion]

I think what Adonai One really wants is for us to all hang out, drink some tea and meditate. That doesn't sound so bad to me.

[AnthroHeart]

I can't meditate or read a lot because my mom watches tv in the living room quite often.

[Aion]

Nowhere outside nearby that is convenient?

[AnthroHeart]

Nowhere outside nearby that is convenient?

I meditated enough this morning, like an hour or so. I can easily become ungrounded/lightheaded when I meditate a lot because it channels a lot of energy through me.