Curious Brother

[jody]

This is a thread posted by a humble seeker and student of the Universe. I am calling out to the forum member Ashim, in hopes that you will be able to provide me with answers. 

You have indicated, Ashim, in your comments, that you are not only aware of 'the hidden hand' document, but have first-hand knowledge of the author. This document has been vitally important to my spiritual growth. Indeed, I would not be on this forum were it not for "her" writings. 

You stated that the details are unimportant, and that may very well be, but I have not been able to shake the feeling that there is something of value to me in your knowledge and experience, and I would be most grateful were you willing to share some details with us. 

I write this with hope, but not expectation. If you do not wish to share, I fully understand and respect that. Please know that I am a humble being of Love who only wishes to increase my knowledge, so I may in turn serve in this lifetime. 

Thank you kindly. 

Jody

[Ashim]

This is a thread posted by a humble seeker and student of the Universe. I am calling out to the forum member Ashim, in hopes that you will be able to provide me with answers. 

You have indicated, Ashim, in your comments, that you are not only aware of 'the hidden hand' document, but have first-hand knowledge of the author. This document has been vitally important to my spiritual growth. Indeed, I would not be on this forum were it not for "her" writings. 

You stated that the details are unimportant, and that may very well be, but I have not been able to shake the feeling that there is something of value to me in your knowledge and experience, and I would be most grateful were you willing to share some details with us. 

I write this with hope, but not expectation. If you do not wish to share, I fully understand and respect that. Please know that I am a humble being of Love who only wishes to increase my knowledge, so I may in turn serve in this lifetime. 

Thank you kindly. 

Jody

As I don't know what would be of value to you particularly it's probably better if you ask specific questions, perhaps with reference to the material, and/or to Ra.
Yes, I have most certainly made some good progress regarding my own spirituality, however simply recounting my own personal adventures may not be fruitful for other seekers.
If, hypothetically, Hidden_Hand was able to answer then what questions would you ask?

[Minyatur]

If, hypothetically, Hidden_Hand was able to answer then what questions would you ask?

I've qot questions too!

 What is their goal? and is their intention good? Do they want for example for this 3D sphere to bear more fruits when it will grow in 4D? Like more lessons to be learnt from the perpetual state of chaos and spiritual childhood which they keep this sphere stuck into.

Since Wanderers can find 3D experience valuable, I would tend to think the state in which they keep earth into could be valuable in a way. I'd imagine souls who incarnate here when their green ray is activated, do so for this said state of chaos.

[jody]

As I don't know what would be of value to you particularly it's probably better if you ask specific questions, perhaps with reference to the material, and/or to Ra.
Yes, I have most certainly made some good progress regarding my own spirituality, however simply recounting my own personal adventures may not be fruitful for other seekers.
If, hypothetically, Hidden_Hand was able to answer then what questions would you ask?

Well I will start with two questions, one I would ask HH and one for you. 

Firstly, I have been receiving answers in my meditations for some time now. I formulate a question and the answer is there. Not in the form of voice, but in the form of simply knowing. At first I was acrediting these answers to my intuition, but I now see that I am receiving 'help'. I do not know if these answers are coming from brothers in the confederation, or my higher self, or other higher beings. Could you please shed light on that?

Second. I'm very curious to know why members of the family would visit you. What would they gain from such a visit and what would they want from you?

Thank you Ashim. 

[Minyatur]

Firstly, I have been receiving answers in my meditations for some time now. I formulate a question and the answer is there. Not in the form of voice, but in the form of simply knowing. At first I was acrediting these answers to my intuition, but I now see that I am receiving 'help'. I do not know if these answers are coming from brothers in the confederation, or my higher self, or other higher beings. Could you please shed light on that?

This is just my opinion (since you asked Ashim), but you can ask the question directly. I went through the same process in the last two weeks and asked if my higher self was the one answering and got the answer "Yes". I've done this because of a page about spirit guides which said to ask them questions about their nature and their relation to you since you can't know what is answering as you perceive only the answer.


This is the page, I haven't asked all the questions, I stopped with what I thought was satisfactory with me.

http://www.crystalinks.com/spirit_guides.html

[Stranger]

Firstly, I have been receiving answers in my meditations for some time now. I formulate a question and the answer is there. Not in the form of voice, but in the form of simply knowing. At first I was acrediting these answers to my intuition, but I now see that I am receiving 'help'. I do not know if these answers are coming from brothers in the confederation, or my higher self, or other higher beings. Could you please shed light on that?

Jody, the experience you describe has been part of my own experience also.  I have developed it further to the point of conscious verbal communication, with the help of something like automatic writing.

I can't speak for where your messages are coming from, but can share my own experience.  For a long time I did not know or care who the answers were coming from.  I learned to discern good information from bad, and the good information was accurate and super helpful in my life, time and time again - and that was enough for me.

More recently I've recognized that my answers come primarily from several sources: 1) my higher self, 2) Hatonn, 3) occasionally, other sources step in as needed.  My higher self is the most helpful, in a large measure because there seems to be far less of a withholding of information due to free will when the higher self is the source, vs. other entities. I've also been able to reach out to other sources as needed/desired.

On multiple occasions I'd receive "messages" explicitly validating my fears or my behavior when acting on fear, and I've been told that these messages come from my ego.  Surprisingly, the latter messages seem able to say "that is the truth", which none of the STS sources are able to do.  I learned that if I'm seeking information out of fear or desire to avoid something, it will be validated, inaccurately.

I hope this may be of help to you in interpreting your own experience.

[jody]

Thank you Minyatur and Stranger. Your advice is most welcome.

I will consider both of your posts and incorporate what i can.

Again. I'm very grateful for you taking the time to respond.

Jody

[Stranger]

Jody, this may also be relevant - I came across a book mentioned on David Wilcock's website - Exploration Of Consciousness by Dennis Milner, James Binns, Harry Dean and Andrew McNeil, all academic scientists who began experimenting with what they term the "expanded consciousness technique" which is basically a way to tune into the world of symbolic imagery. One of them would go into this altered state through a few minutes of simple visualization exercises, and another member of the group would ask questions, the answers to which would be instantaneously given as images and events in this "dream" world. Part of what they asked about is how this process works, and got the image of their group reaching up, and another group above reaching down, and making the slightest of contact through which the information could be transmitted. In the book they seem puzzled about why the information only comes if they find the right questions to ask, instead of being given freely - this caused them significant frustration. We of course know to be due to the law of free will, which the higher entities are unwilling to break.

[Unbound]

Oh Lucifer, what curiosity you spurn in the dark light.

[Ashim]

If, hypothetically, Hidden_Hand was able to answer then what questions would you ask?

I've qot questions too!

 What is their goal? and is their intention good?

They, Lucifer, have worked up to a level of spiritual evolvement where "good and bad" are no longer seen as opposites but as "Love".
They will however provide negative wisdom for as long as is it requested.
This is their accepted task as guardians of 4th density.
Only when the demand for negativity becomes zero will they be "released" from their cycles of incarnation.

If you have grown tired of the political false paradigm of "right and left", or "liberal or conservative" then you will be able to see the "good/bad" in the same light.

[Ashim]

I do not know if these answers are coming from brothers in the confederation, or my higher self, or other higher beings. Could you please shed light on that?

Second. I'm very curious to know why members of the family would visit you. What would they gain from such a visit and what would they want from you?

Thank you Ashim. 

You alone must use your discretion to identify the source of any contact.
I would ask you if you employ methods of cleansing or banishing prior to meditation or magical work?
You are aware that you may challenge any entity that chooses to vibrate with you?

I was visited by the Family (in 3d) because this had been arranged pre-incarnation in the event of me reaching a certain level of vibrational purity and, indeed wishing for this contact to happen. For me personally this was a confirmation of things only 'suspected' with high levels of  'faith' prior to the initiation.

I had displayed my gratitude for the sacrifice of the Family.
My experience of "life" changed dramatically in the wake of the contact.

Lucifer is mostly an object of hate. Go figure what they got out of it.

Edit: Missed out a "t" on 'mostly'

[jody]

Ashim

I wouldn't say that I do magical work, but I meditate multie times daily. I do no cleansing or banishing work during my meditations. I have read the words of many who fear greetings from negatively polarized beings. I do not allow that fear to enter my body or mind. Fear is their ally and will give them strength. I instead view it as an opportunity. I'm aware of the STS entities that join me, but instead of fearing them, I choose to Love them. I can abolutely feel them, because my essence is Love, and it is strong, so their presence is easily detectable like a black stain on a white sheet. When they send me greetings and I start to get distracted by feelings of jealousy, anger, self loathing etc. I recognize them, I thank them for greeting me, I make sure to give myself Love, and then give Love to the Creator. I assure the entities that staying with me will lead them down a path of Love to be one with the Creator. My goal is not to make them 'go away', quite the contrary, I wish to lead them down the path to positive polarity. They are, after all, nothing more than my confused brothers, and I Love them, for they show me that which I am not.

I feel that this method is helping to keep my meditations pure, but I am a novice in this world, so any suggestions will be carefully read and humbly considered.

Thank you for your responses Ashim.

[AnthroHeart]

I don't meditate really at all, but I rarely get a negative greeting. I've had negative experiences, really fearful ones, but I'm not sure if they were caused by negatives, or my own ego. Sometimes we are the cause of our misery.

[Ashim]

I do not allow that fear to enter my body or mind.

Scared of the fear are we?

[Minyatur]

Ashim

I wouldn't say that I do magical work, but I meditate multie times daily. I do no cleansing or banishing work during my meditations. I have read the words of many who fear greetings from negatively polarized beings. I do not allow that fear to enter my body or mind. Fear is their ally and will give them strength. I instead view it as an opportunity. I'm aware of the STS entities that join me, but instead of fearing them, I choose to Love them. I can abolutely feel them, because my essence is Love, and it is strong, so their presence is easily detectable like a black stain on a white sheet. When they send me greetings and I start to get distracted by feelings of jealousy, anger, self loathing etc. I recognize them, I thank them for greeting me, I make sure to give myself Love, and then give Love to the Creator. I assure the entities that staying with me will lead them down a path of Love to be one with the Creator. My goal is not to make them 'go away', quite the contrary, I wish to lead them down the path to positive polarity. They are, after all, nothing more than my confused brothers, and I Love them, for they show me that which I am not.

I feel that this method is helping to keep my meditations pure, but I am a novice in this world, so any suggestions will be carefully read and humbly considered.

Thank you for your responses Ashim.

Do you feel that STS entities are only there to hinder your spiritual growth or awakening to your higher self?

This is how I've been interacting with them, around 5 years ago I was introduced to Christianity by a friend who I questionned about it because his faith made me wonder. He told me to try to pray which I did, when I prayed I was filled with light and changed anew in many ways but after this experience, for 2 weeks I had many encounters with what I used to call "demons", in that time they had much more power over me to bring forth fear. This hapenned in many different times of my life since then, when I feel like reaching a new step. Now I welcome their arrival with no fear and so they have no power upon me and I simply notice them. For exemple last time I dealt with them myself, I was on a magic mushroom trip with the goal to awaken and synchronise with my higher self. In that state when I would close my eyes, I would see disturbing things that had for only purpose to break my trance. I would see pornographic images, disturbing things like a man opening one of my eyes to pour melted metal into it. pretty much anything and all were neon bright under my closed eye-lids. Weird things in short but that had not much effect on me and I saw as trying to hinder my awakening.

So on my part I see no use to banishing rituals and welcome tests thrown at me. But I've had a bad experience last Saturday where I invited a friend with emotional problems to do a mushroom trip with me and another Wanderer I know. Things were going well until he started feeling really bad, he wanted me to bring him back home which me and the other person thought wasn't the best idea. (we were on drugs, 1 hour into the trip and had 60 mins to drive him back in addition that it doesn't solve his problems). He seemed to want to he alone so we left him alone and went on a long walk. While he was alone he felt opressed, he had visions of a demon face composed of millions of demon faces each making a different sound. He had other vision, felt so bad his body couldn't stop trembling until he called his father at 3 am to come get him (had I known. I would've bring him back..) and so nothing productive came from the night. Well I've tried to tell him to view his experience as a purge but that is up to him. 

So even if in my case I do not feel the need of banishing rituals, I'm starting to feel the need to do them while working with others. I had much hope about the night I spoke of, because my friend is a troubled soul in need of guidance and STS entities rendered the night unfruitful. Well there is much he can learn from it, but I had hoped to help him break his pre-conceptions of the world which put him down.

[Minyatur]

I don't meditate really at all, but I rarely get a negative greeting. I've had negative experiences, really fearful ones, but I'm not sure if they were caused by negatives, or my own ego. Sometimes we are the cause of our misery.

I don't think they want to be known so much, when I notice them, it is because I am more awake or more open. Psychosis drugs do this a lot but I got there with a lot of prayer and focusing on infinity too. When I encounter them, I have no doubt that a third party is at work.

I saw them as black forms while praying, I can notice their influence on my mind, while lucid dreaming I saw them as shadow people, at some point when I was more of a Christian I felt stabbed by a cold blade in my back while praying. When talking with others, I noticed many experienced such things. especially the shadow people.

[jody]

I do not allow that fear to enter my body or mind.

Scared of the fear are we?

I find your comment hilarious. Thank you

[AnthroHeart]

My mind was shaken violently before. That was the most scared I've been.
It stilled when I focused on the One Original Thought, but shook otherwise if my attention drifted.
It lasted about 10 minutes.

[jody]

Do you feel that STS entities are only there to hinder your spiritual growth or awakening to your higher self?

As I said Minyatur, The STS entities aid me by showing me that which I am not. Many things are defined by their opposites. For this, I am grateful.

Everyone will take their own lessons from them. That is mine. 

[Reaper]

[Stranger]

What is that we are supposed to be watching there, Yera, and why?

[Reaper]

All this talk of Lucifer made me think of that video. It's just the music video for the song Lucifer by Sabbath Assembly.

[Ashim]

All this talk of Lucifer made me think of that video. It's just the music video for the song Lucifer by Sabbath Assembly.

Sadly, this is the one that I often hear:

4 Minute Warning.
Radiohead.

[video=youtube]http:/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExYP5hWVSyg/[/video]

[Billy]

How is it that you guys connect with your higher selves and/or other beings? Do you literally hear voices in your heads?

[Bluebell]

wut is the difference between the dream voice & the higher self voice?

[jody]

How is it that you guys connect with your higher selves and/or other beings? Do you literally hear voices in your heads?

That hasn't been my experience. I'm relatively new at this, but for me it's just a 'knowing' rather than a voice. Sometimes I will apply my own voice to my newfound knowledge, but the information suddenly just appears in me. 

[Billy]

How is it that you guys connect with your higher selves and/or other beings? Do you literally hear voices in your heads?

That hasn't been my experience. I'm relatively new at this, but for me it's just a 'knowing' rather than a voice. Sometimes I will apply my own voice to my newfound knowledge, but the information suddenly just appears in me. 

So do you formulate a question and take it with you into meditation?  How quickly do you get answers to your questions?

[jody]

How is it that you guys connect with your higher selves and/or other beings? Do you literally hear voices in your heads?

That hasn't been my experience. I'm relatively new at this, but for me it's just a 'knowing' rather than a voice. Sometimes I will apply my own voice to my newfound knowledge, but the information suddenly just appears in me. 

So do you formulate a question and take it with you into meditation?  How quickly do you get answers to your questions?

Again, this is my own experience. Others may vary. But yes I bring the question into my meditation. I know what I will ask before I begin. I wait until I am fully clear and relaxed, and I've offered gratitude to the Creator and my higher self, and then I ask the question in my mind, very clearly. The answer is usually there immediately. Sometimes before I'm even done wording the question. (the mind is faster than the mouth)  I have found yes or no questions work best for me as the answer comes in very clearly. 

I hope this is of some aid to you. I would love to hear what kind of results you get. I'm certain everyond has their own method. 

Good luck. May your path be blessed by the Love and Light of the Creator. 

[Minyatur]

How is it that you guys connect with your higher selves and/or other beings? Do you literally hear voices in your heads?

That hasn't been my experience. I'm relatively new at this, but for me it's just a 'knowing' rather than a voice. Sometimes I will apply my own voice to my newfound knowledge, but the information suddenly just appears in me. 

This is exactly how it is for me, it's like remembering in some way and then formulating it with words.

[Unbound]

For me it is a sort of invocation. I see myself uniting with my higher self, whom is basically me, my magical self, at my fullest potential or at other times "he" will do work on my body, but it's me directing everything. The "higher self" seems to be basically be a parallel self whom exists in "future-time" and embodies all of your experience up to that point with full awareness. Therefore, often though I may direct my higher self, I feel there is some mystery surrounding where "he" and "I" seem to meet because obviously, we are one.