Quietude & Asylum...

[Melissa]

Zen, the point that Xise is offering you is just as valid and useful.

Every single post is valid and useful...

Then why don't you treat every post/person you reply to as such?

A tiny illustration;

Fluffy words......................................•..offensive words

•=you when I see you responding from a different perspective.

[zenmaster]

Zen, the point that Xise is offering you is just as valid and useful.

Every single post is valid and useful...

Then why don't you treat every post/person you reply to as such?

A tiny illustration;

Fluffy words......................................•..offensive words

•=you when I see you responding from a different perspective.

interpretation of catalyst.

[Jeremy]

As zen stated, he presents an alternate perspective upon interpretation of catalysts. If what he says is taken in offense or in a negative way, then that's exactly the response one should look at in themselves. Such thin skinned emotions evoke a sense of insecurity or fallibility one sees within themselves yet hasn't accepted.

Thus as I have said before, he presents the quintessential antagonist role that many seem to object yet what they are really objecting are aspects of themselves.

[Melissa]

Zen, the point that Xise is offering you is just as valid and useful.

Every single post is valid and useful...

Then why don't you treat every post/person you reply to as such?

A tiny illustration;

Fluffy words......................................•..offensive words

•=you when I see you responding from a different perspective.

interpretation of catalyst.

C'mon zen, sometimes you're just acting like a jackass. Not saying you are one, because you're not. Did you chuckle at the illustration? Thought it was quite accurate and funny.

[Turtle]

As zen stated, he presents an alternate perspective upon interpretation of catalysts. If what he says is taken in offense or in a negative way, then that's exactly the response one should look at in themselves. Such thin skinned emotions evoke a sense of insecurity or fallibility one sees within themselves yet hasn't accepted.

Thus as I have said before, he presents the quintessential antagonist role that many seem to object yet what they are really objecting are aspects of themselves.

That's been my perspective of zenmaster, and he's been my favorite participant on this forum for it!

[Zachary]

Drugs and spirituality...

I agree that is usually trouble.

There comes a point in one's development when it is understood that protection is not necessary either...instead, one simply understands that since they are responsible for the experiences they attract, that it is up to them to uncover unconscious belief systems having to do with protection/threat and accept that they exist, love them for keeping you straight on your path for as long as they were needed, and then politely throw them away where they belong...outside of the playspace that is your mind

Ok, so are you saying to me that you can run around outside in 30 below weather, without any clothing, and not worry about frostbite or hypothermia? Because of belief? I mean it is the same thing after all, a choice made that attracts elements that you believe in. The only difference is that one is physical, one is metaphysical. Remember they are analogous to each other. And technically belief has boundaries.


Or would you just accept that the cold is there to keep you straight on your path? And stay indoors so that you can safely say you do not need protection from the cold?



Seems more like the choice of action links you to the reaction. (balancing?/choice?) A person can have all sorts of crazy beliefs and never attract anything at all. Why would that be?

This function is the same with a great many elements, both physical and metaphysical.

Wim Hof:


"In February 2009 Hof reached the top of Mount Kilimanjaro in his shorts within two days."

"In 2009 Hof completed a full marathon (42.195 kilometres (26.219 mi)), above the polar circle in Finland, in temperatures close to −20 °C (−4 °F). Dressed in nothing but shorts, Hof finished in 5 hours and 25 minutes. The challenge was filmed by Firecrackerfilms, who make productions for BBC, Channel 4 and National Geographic.[6]"


"After 30 years of training and mirroring himself in hard nature, Hof is teaching people his methods. Everybody (every mind) has the ability to reach for more than that which they thought themselves capable of, according to Hof. Hof started to work together with his oldest son in March 2011. Innerfire came to life. If you look at their logo you can see one person meditating and another making a gainer around him. These two figures are Hof and son. The meditating figure stands for the sympathetic nervous system and the figure jumping around him stands for the parasympathetic nervous system."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wim_Hof#Innerfire

[zenmaster]

The jackass thing at least attempts to allude to something

[Melissa]

@Jack, I know. :p

[BrownEye]

-4 after 30 years, that's pretty good. Wonder how many years it would take to pull it off in -30?

Belief has an effect, but there are definite limits and boundaries. Where do you draw the line between belief and boundary? How many years are you willing to spend testing a single belief?

I used to skateboard and BMX freestyle in subzero weather without warm clothes. I never let the weather get in the way of my fun. Exercise really drives up the core temperature. Though that does not translate the same to the extremities. If I remember right this is the same guy that got frostbite on his feet during one of his runs.