The 8th Archetypes

[reeay]

It's nice here, at least you do not get called potential Orion infiltrator for sharing your own ideas like I just did by one person on another Ra related discussion group.

[Adonai One]

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What concerns me is that when people DO think for themselves Immanuel closes up, cites the Law of Responsibility or Confusion, and goes on the defense of his discoveries, but yet insists on their importance. He always says he is open to being wrong or challenged or delusional, yet he keeps secret the key fulcrums of all his workings and only offers out surface details when he feels it is in the interest of his ideal to cause people to think.
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I do not come here to move people or be moved.

[xise]

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What concerns me is that when people DO think for themselves Immanuel closes up, cites the Law of Responsibility or Confusion, and goes on the defense of his discoveries, but yet insists on their importance. He always says he is open to being wrong or challenged or delusional, yet he keeps secret the key fulcrums of all his workings and only offers out surface details when he feels it is in the interest of his ideal to cause people to think.
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I do not come here to move people or be moved.

I personally enjoy your threads Adonai. They are thought provoking, and obviously catalytic for many people as evidenced by the seeming energy involved in many of the replies. Though I might have not expressed it in the past, the long dialogue we had back the 2013 summer over loving murder, heinous acts, etc, really propelled my understanding of the Ra material by leaps and bounds - it also helped me decide on my favorite Ra quote which I just used in another thread .

I continue to enjoy seeing the newly discovered ideas you share with us Manny, and I hope you share them with us, even if you feel you have to cut the discussion short. I think you should try to incorporate other's constructive criticism, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater - I don't want to see you quench your impressive curiosity or willingness to post about new topics in the process.

[Fang]

I accept myself. I accept you. I accept things as they are. I have no cost to pay and no honor to lose.

As nice of a gesture as that is and how much I appreciate it, the whole thing is kinda beside the point. We are here to discuss the Ra material, not entrench ourselves in the beauty of our personal allegories. We all have things to offer and things to receive that can aid us here but to make the forum revolve around a personal narrative stifles learning for the collective pursuing the express purpose of this forum that we all come to.

Saying things like " When you are ready, you may see visions of these potential realities. These visions may change you." denoting superiority on your behalf, being privy to information you do not seem to want to elaborate on or share in depth sort of renders the discussion useless.

I'd like to talk about the Law of One, it's why I came here but when you display something like this it will inevitably get personal because the only way to discuss it is to get information out of you and often you are reluctant to do so.

For there to be 8 archetypes they would have to be different archetypes, the interdependent structure of what Ra provided indicates this necessity. If you would be willing to share what you see as alternatives and how they would function in an 8 archetypal system that would be appreciated and would help the discussion but even so it would have no real benefit as we don't experience a reality where that is the case so why even bother?

[Unbound]

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What concerns me is that when people DO think for themselves Immanuel closes up, cites the Law of Responsibility or Confusion, and goes on the defense of his discoveries, but yet insists on their importance. He always says he is open to being wrong or challenged or delusional, yet he keeps secret the key fulcrums of all his workings and only offers out surface details when he feels it is in the interest of his ideal to cause people to think.
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I do not come here to move people or be moved.

So what do you come here for? I don't mean that in a way that I do not appreciate that you are here, I am just curious what your intentions are because, in my perspective, you have been giving very mixed messages. It's all good whatever you wanna do, I am just trying to get to know my other self, which you are, more intimately and that which I am for you.

[Adonai One]

I like to think I love you guys.

[Unbound]

You often speak with doubt of your feelings, it seems. I can certainly understand that, however it has been a recent lesson for me that to become fully conscious of one's emotions (energy-motions) one must know what one feels emotionally and completely "own" what it is that one feels. If one needs to use their mind to manipulate their emotions, I would, personally, be of the opinion that they are not being completely honest and clear with themselves and may have some blockages in the emotional body. I know this mostly from my own experience with myself aha

So, may I ask, what do you feel the use of the knowledge of an 8th Archetype imbued system can be put in to motion?

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P.S. Love you too, mate!

[reeay]

I guess Manny's intuitive info/philosophy is like learning about Manny and where he's at. He could use law of responsibility bc we're not going to learn about Manny for Manny, that's absurd.

If that is all you see in his threads, then that is alright and that too is a valid perspective. We take what we need and are ready for from each other.

Certainly. It'll be bit easier to understand if intuition or distortion were discussed in frame that we may be familiar with or can grasp like the Ra material or any body of knowledge out there. Not to say we need to extensively cite our understanding but when something is very abstract and if we have little concept for it then having some sort of grounding is helpful, else it just looks like it's personal info that is being made conscious.

[Adonai One]

You often speak with doubt of your feelings, it seems. I can certainly understand that, however it has been a recent lesson for me that to become fully conscious of one's emotions (energy-motions) one must know what one feels emotionally and completely "own" what it is that one feels. If one needs to use their mind to manipulate their emotions, I would, personally, be of the opinion that they are not being completely honest and clear with themselves and may have some blockages in the emotional body. I know this mostly from my own experience with myself aha

So, may I ask, what do you feel the use of the knowledge of an 8th Archetype imbued system can be put in to motion?

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P.S. Love you too, mate!

Love is more than a feeling: It is an energy. I accept the desires of everyone here and accept them as my own. This to me is love. I do not doubt I have this. I doubt if you and others think I love.

On your suggestion: I have little feeling and lack full sense of myself. My orange ray is nearly unpolarized. This is being healed.

Do not doubt the power of these concepts. Those who fully know them have great responsibility.

88.14 Questioner: Was the concept given to— let me ask— you say it originated there… was this concept devised for a training tool for those inhabiting Venus at that time or was it devised by those of Venus as a training tool for those of Earth?

Ra: I am Ra. The tarot was devised by the third-density population of Venus a great measure of your space/time in your past. As we have noted the third-density experience of those of Venus dealt far more deeply and harmoniously with what you would call relationships with other-selves, sexual energy transfer work, and philosophical or metaphysical research. The product of many, many generations of work upon what we conceived to be the archetypical mind produced the tarot which was used by our peoples as a training aid in developing the magical personality.

[Unbound]

Aha I assure you it is because I know their power that I am so interested in understanding the ways they may be used in a stabilized manner. Forgive me, it is a dominant virgo trait I enjoy delving in to! Aha

[βαθμιαίος]

It's nice here, at least you do not get called potential Orion infiltrator for sharing your own ideas like I just did by one person on another Ra related discussion group.

Totally off-topic (please forgive), but I'm curious what the other Ra-related discussion group is.

[Sagittarius]

How can something nearly become un-polarized ? It's better thought of as a scale, random all direction vibration of light - one direction. All light is essentially polarized.

Tell me again about fully knowing these concepts?

[reeay]

Totally off-topic (please forgive), but I'm curious what the other Ra-related discussion group is.

A Ra-material discussion group on Facebook. Few members from b4th also participate.

[βαθμιαίος]

Thanks.

[Ankh]

Thanks.

And you're not even on Facebook. Shame on you! /

[βαθμιαίος]

And you're not even on Facebook. Shame on you! /

Of course I am: http://www.facebook.com/βαθμιαίος

But seriously, why shame on me?

[Ankh]

And you're not even on Facebook. Shame on you! /

Of course I am: http://www.facebook.com/βαθμιαίος

But seriously, why shame on me?

The "shame" part was a joke, dear one.

In regards to this entity: http://www.facebook.com/βαθμιαίος

When I click on it, it says:

"Den här sidan är tyvärr inte tillgänglig

Länken kanske är trasig eller sidan kan ha tagits bort."

Which, roughly translated from Swedish, says: "This page is unfortunetly not available. The link is may be broken or the page may be deleted." Busted!

[βαθμιαίος]

Which, roughly translated from Swedish, says: "This page is unfortunetly not available. The link is may be broken or the page may be deleted." Busted!

I can't imagine why it's not working.

[Ankh]

Which, roughly translated from Swedish, says: "This page is unfortunetly not available. The link is may be broken or the page may be deleted." Busted!

I can't imagine why it's not working.

I can. :p

[Plenum]

Hi Ankh, Mr Greek,

It's good to see you both in fine spirits.

But the above exchange is really personal chit-chat, and off-topic.

Now, all threads take unexpected turns as participants come and go, and ask questions, but personal banter does not contribute to the overall value and seeking of the thread.

Please keep this in mind in the future.

Thanks,

Plenum

[Ankh]

Hi Ankh, Mr Greek,

It's good to see you both in fine spirits.

But the above exchange is really personal chit-chat, and off-topic.

Now, all threads take unexpected turns as participants come and go, and ask questions, but personal banter does not contribute to the overall value and seeking of the thread.

Please keep this in mind in the future.

Thanks,

Plenum

It was in the Strictly Law of One forum under Archetypes section for some time while very few or even maybe none of the posts did not have their origin there in the first place. But whatever, this mistake will not be repeated from my part. Ciao!

[βαθμιαίος]

Hi Ankh, Mr Greek,

It's good to see you both in fine spirits.

But the above exchange is really personal chit-chat, and off-topic.

Now, all threads take unexpected turns as participants come and go, and ask questions, but personal banter does not contribute to the overall value and seeking of the thread.

Please keep this in mind in the future.

Thanks,

Plenum

Ouch.