Understanding opposites within Oneness.

[Patrick]

Here is a good read on the subject of opposites within Oneness (a seeming paradox).

http://rs2theory.org/books/rs2/fundament...sites.html

Opposites come in different forms. Basic mathematics represents them as inverses: the additive inverse and the multiplicative inverse. The use of complex numbers add another “opposite,” that of the complex conjugate. Opposites require a reference point from which to measure the “opposite” character. This reference is called a datum. A datum can have any value, but zero and unity are the common ones. The datum, itself, also has an opposite: a concept known as infinity. Any system of measure departing from the datum heads towards its opposite at infinity, however there is only ONE infinity—just a lot of different directions to get there.

Multiplicative Inverse: Dichotomy

The multiplicative inverse has a datum of unity, with a dichotomy of greater or less than unity. Larson uses the multiplicative inverse for scalar motion (speed and energy). Note that the number line does not include a negative direction towards infinity, as does polarity, but an inverse direction—expanding towards infinity or shrinking to it. 0, 1, ∞.

[Patrick]

I found that material again and then realized I had already posted about it here.

Dichotomy, the many in the one and the one in the many.

[Ashim]

however there is only ONE infinity—just a lot of different directions to get there.

The paradox is:

There was created an infinite amount of finite experience.

Thus infinity can always be communicated with in the form of intelligent energy.


Try to get your head arround that.

In fact that's what we are doing here.

The One Infinite Creator found the best way to learn about himself.
It all started with granting free will.

[AnthroHeart]

What was the first being created out of free will. Was it the Logos, that is by illusion separate from the One Infinite Creator? Is the first created being out of free will finite within the illusion?

[Ashim]

I always found this quote very enlightening on the subject.

"
In the Beginning, there is The Infinite One. This is the Source of All. Intelligent Infinity. It is the undifferentiated absolute. Within It, is unlimited potential, waiting to 'become'. Think of it as the "uncarved block" of your Taoist traditions.

Infinite Intelligence, becoming 'aware' of Itself, seeks to experience Itself, and The One Infinite Creator is 'born', or 'manifest' (This appears to your 3rd Density comprehension as "Space"). In effect, the 'Creator', is a point of focused Infinite Consciousness or awareness, into Infinite Intelligent Energy. The One Infinite Creator also becoming self aware, seeks too to experience Itself as Creator, and in so doing, begins the next step down in the Creational spiral. The One Infinite Creator, in focusing It's Infinite Intelligence, becomes Intelligent Energy (which you could call the Great Central Sun), and divides Itself into smaller portions of Itself, that can then in turn experience themselves as Creators (or Central Suns). In other words, each Central Sun (or Creator) is a 'step down' in Conscious awareness (or distortion) from the Original 'thought' of Creation. So "In the beginning" was not "The Word", but Thought. The Word, is thought expressed and made manifest as Creator. "

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

[AnthroHeart]

Intelligent Infinity is also the harvesting of all experience of the previous Octave.

[Ashim]

Intelligent Infinity is also the harvesting of all experience of the previous Octave.

No, we are refering to the metaphysical 'big bang'.

The cosmic logos in non dimensional space/time out of which a time matrix was formed as a vehicle of expression.

[Sagittarius]

Non dimensional space/time? Please explain this.

[Ashim]

Non dimensional space/time? Please explain this.

Infinite Intelligence becomes aware and recognises its unlimited unmanifest potential.
This is what we call 'space' - still in non dimensional form.

The next 'step down' involves polarity - or - light/dark.
This creates space/time and time/space - what we know as dimensions.

[Sagittarius]

And how do you become aware of this space without dimensions.

[Ashim]

And how do you become aware of this space without dimensions.

By understanding the concept of unity. A dimension is simply the number of independent coordinates needed to specify uniquely the location of a point in a space; thus identity can no longer exist in this unified realm.

It's what we call 'fusing' with the source of all.

Point your rocket ship at Alcyone and see what happens.

[Sagittarius]

And you think you can understand it ? How can anything be unified at a point in space. One point causes two points and so on. So whats your point ?

[Ashim]

It's called Zero Point, or 'anti matter'.
Where the atom splits.
It's why we can view a wave or a particle depending on what we are looking to observe.
One is localized the other 'smeared out' through infinity.

It's what lies behind the 'moment'.

[Sagittarius]

Yes nothing new, my point is what's the point of describing it if you cant.

[Ashim]

Yes nothing new, my point is what's the point of describing it if you cant.

The moment is an infinite line - infinite distance.

This is what is created by what I attempted to describe.

To gain insight into these concepts I feel that one must also embrace the metaphysical components, not just the cold science.

Sorry if I have failed in your eyes to provide any sort of worth while description.

I always try my best.
It's very late and I'm off to bed.
Good night and god bless.

[Patrick]

...
Thus infinity can always be communicated with in the form of intelligent energy.
...
It all started with granting free will.

Indeed.

Free will immediately gives rise to many-ness.

Due to the infinite possibilities of intelligent infinity, there is no ending to many-ness. The exploration thus is free to continue infinitely into an eternal present.

[Fastidious Emanations]

I appreciate the insight into the concept of the initial thought and how Infinite Intelligence can be viewed as the ultimate manifestation of Infinite Potential- the Origin Itself..

[anagogy]

Intelligent Infinity is also the harvesting of all experience of the previous Octave.

I would describe it slightly differently. I would say, "intelligent infinity is the container for all experience, regardless of what octave it took place in".

The Original Thought is the harvest of all previous experience of the creator. In my opinion, that original thought is the Logos itself. That is to say, not all relativity is dissolved across the boundary of the octave. The Logos does not fully unpotentiate, in otherwords. That is my current understanding.

So intelligent infinity is like the canvas for the painting, the container for all potential, the painting is the creation, or octave of densities, and the painter is like the Logos, who remembers portions of the octaves across to new octaves.

[AnthroHeart]

I wonder if Creator is the same creator as in the previous Octave. And is Creator always and ever the same?

[Patrick]

I wonder if Creator is the same creator as in the previous Octave. And is Creator always and ever the same?

It depends on what you mean by Creator. The One infinite Creator is the same.

[caycegal]

I always found this quote very enlightening on the subject.

"
In the Beginning, there is The Infinite One. This is the Source of All. Intelligent Infinity. It is the undifferentiated absolute. Within It, is unlimited potential, waiting to 'become'. Think of it as the "uncarved block" of your Taoist traditions.

Infinite Intelligence, becoming 'aware' of Itself, seeks to experience Itself, and The One Infinite Creator is 'born', or 'manifest' (This appears to your 3rd Density comprehension as "Space"). In effect, the 'Creator', is a point of focused Infinite Consciousness or awareness, into Infinite Intelligent Energy. The One Infinite Creator also becoming self aware, seeks too to experience Itself as Creator, and in so doing, begins the next step down in the Creational spiral. The One Infinite Creator, in focusing It's Infinite Intelligence, becomes Intelligent Energy (which you could call the Great Central Sun), and divides Itself into smaller portions of Itself, that can then in turn experience themselves as Creators (or Central Suns). In other words, each Central Sun (or Creator) is a 'step down' in Conscious awareness (or distortion) from the Original 'thought' of Creation. So "In the beginning" was not "The Word", but Thought. The Word, is thought expressed and made manifest as Creator. "

http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html

I like it - just a minor "quibble" - in the beginning was CONSCIOUSNESS. Whether "Consciousness" is the same as "Thought" is something we could discuss.

[anagogy]

I wonder if Creator is the same creator as in the previous Octave. And is Creator always and ever the same?

I think there are portions of the Logos that are not dissolved across the transition of Octave, and those portions, or shall I say, refinements on the great cosmic beingness that pleased it are kept, or used as a platform, and projected into the next Octave of densities. So depending on how you define Creator, yes, it is the same.

Intelligent Infinity, from which the Logos arises from, is always and ever the same. The Logos is the portion of Intelligent Infinity, which picks and chooses among attributes. It is the relative creator, while intelligent infinity is the absolute creator. Relative reality is changing, absolute reality is unchanging. Absolute reality contains all potential, or all attributes. Relative reality is a kinetic focusing of specific attributes.

Whether "Consciousness" is the same as "Thought" is something we could discuss.

I would describe "thought" as the current "focus" of awareness, or consciousness.