The mysterious nature of time

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Time for some fun, visualizing pieces of the Ra material

Don was an excellent questioner, because, he would put forth some excellent real world analogies, in terms of building up his picture of cosmic, spiritual and archetypal workings. Below is one of Don's excellent analogies, in terms of gauging the situation of mind/body/spirit complexes, before and after the event of the Veiling, as propounded by Ra.

83.8 Questioner: I just thought of an analogy while you were saying that, in that I fly an airplane, and I have testing in a simulator, but this is not too much of a test since I know we’re bolted to the ground and can’t get hurt. However, when we’re actually flying and making the approach, landing et cetera, in the airplane, even though it’s the same, it— it is, I guess a poor analogy with respect to what was happening prior to the veil. I know all of the conditions in both cases, and yet I cannot get too interested in the simulator work, because I know that it is bolted to the ground. I see this as… as the entities prior to the veil knowing they were [chuckling] bolted to the creation, so to speak, or part of it. Is this a reasonable analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. This is quite reasonable, although it does not bear upon the function of the review of incarnation, but rather bears upon the experiential differences before and after veiling.

OK, so here is a pilot.


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OK, now, back to the analogy of before the Veiling situation, i.e., the simulator, in which you know that things can never go terribly wrong.


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Now, the pilot, after the Veiling, i.e., in a situation wherein uncertainties will now abound.


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A good quote to bear in mind, as to why our Logos took so much pain to make our entire experience extremely vivid, as the Ra material put it --

82.22 Questioner: Then since the only possibility at this particular time, as I see it, was a polarization for service to others, I must assume from what you said that even though all were aware of this service to others necessity they were unable to achieve it. What was the configuration of mind of the mind/body/spirits at that time? Why did they have such a difficult time serving others to the extent necessary for graduation since this was the only polarity possible?

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition. Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex. There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

When the Logos put so much effort to create such conditions, which has eventually lead to the state of the matrix that we see all around us, I think it is important to glean and utilize effectively, as much experience as possible, in order to further our spiritual evolution!

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60.11 Questioner: The next statement that I will make may or may not be enlightening to me in my investigation of the pyramid energy, but it has occurred to me that the effect of the so-called Bermuda Triangle could be possibly due to a large pyramid beneath the water which releases this third spiral in discrete and varying intervals. Entities or craft that are in the vicinity may change their space/time continuum in some way. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

I do not know whether the following YouTube video is speaking in a genuine manner or not; however, it is interesting (or notable), given what we hear about Bermuda Triangle from the LOO.

[Ankh]

Thank you for your posts, Confused!

I've always found the below fascinating:

There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total.

You know, this connection is still there... It is behind the veil, yes, but we still have it, whether we are aware of it or not... I find it fascinating, and it brings me such joy, and comfort.

[Confused]

Thank you for your posts, Confused!

I've always found the below fascinating:

There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total.

You know, this connection is still there... It is behind the veil, yes, but we still have it, whether we are aware of it or not... I find it fascinating, and it brings me such joy, and comfort.

You are very right, Ankh!

For me, closely connected with that quote is the following as well --

85.9 Questioner: Since our fifth-density companion has been monitoring our communication with Ra it has been made aware of the veiling process of which we have been speaking. It seems to me that conscious knowledge and acceptance of the fact that this veiling process was used for the purpose for which it was used would make it difficult to maintain high negative polarization. Could you clear up my thinking on that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. We are unsure as to our success in realigning your modes of mentation. We may, however, comment.

The polarization process, as it enters fourth density, is one which occurs with full knowledge of the veiling process which has taken place in third density. This veiling process is that which is a portion of the third-density experience. The knowledge and memory of the outcome of this and all portions of the third-density experience informs the higher-density polarized entity. It, however, does not influence the choice which has been made and which is the basis for further work past third density in polarization. Those which have chosen the service-to-others* path have simply used the veiling process in order to potentiate that which is not. This is an entirely acceptable method of self-knowledge of and by the Creator.

* This should be service-to-self. Don and Ra corrected the error later in the session.

I always wondered what it was which is 'that which is not'. Then, one day, it struck me (subjectively) that it could be fear. When the connection is total, there is no place for fear due to the realization of oneness with all of creation. However, behind the veil, fear can be potentiated, which provides the fuel for the work to be done on the path of STS (in my opinion).

82.22 Questioner: Then since the only possibility at this particular time, as I see it, was a polarization for service to others, I must assume from what you said that even though all were aware of this service to others necessity they were unable to achieve it. What was the configuration of mind of the mind/body/spirits at that time? Why did they have such a difficult time serving others to the extent necessary for graduation since this was the only polarity possible?

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition. Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex. There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

Then, it lead me to reflect on the following question --

95.22 Questioner: And it seems that the square upon which the entity sits, which is almost totally black, is a representation of the material illusion and the white cat is guarding the right-hand path which is now separated in experience from the left. Would Ra comment on that observation?

Ra: I am Ra. O student, your sight almost sees that which was intended. However, the polarities need no guardians. What, then, O student, needs the guard?

What needs the guard? That question haunted me for quite a while, and then, once again, subjectively, it struck that it could simply be this --

95.24 Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following. If the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, and as total purity is approached in the choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is exquisitely perceptive. The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.

Thus, for those on the STO path, it is the interpretations of the catalysts that needs the guard (personal deduction, of course), so that the interpretations may be protected by light. Yet, it is well to remember this, too, in my opinion --

61.9 Questioner: This brings out the point of the purpose of the physical incarnation, I believe. And that is to reach a conviction through your own thought processes as to a solution to problems and understandings in a totally free situation with no proof at all or anything that you would consider proof, proof being a very poor word in itself. Can you expand on my concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Your opinion is an eloquent one although somewhat confused in its connections between the freedom expressed by subjective knowing and the freedom expressed by subjective acceptance. There is a significant distinction between the two.

This is not a dimension of knowing, even subjectively, due to the lack of overview of cosmic and other in-pourings which affect each and every situation which produces catalyst. The subjective acceptance of that which is at the moment and the finding of love within that moment is the greater freedom.

That known as the subjective knowing without proof is, in some degree, a poor friend for there will be anomalies no matter how much information is garnered due to the distortions which form third density.

[AnthroHeart]

The pilot flying is a great analogy. We certainly don't know what's going on behind the scenes. And that troubles me a bit. I'd also be scared to fly a real plane. Even though I have dreams about flying planes.

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We certainly don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Yes, GW, very true. However, I think we are still better off due to material such as the LOO, in terms of knowing something about what happens behind the veil.

[Aaron]

Thank you for your posts, Confused!

I've always found the below fascinating:

There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total.

You know, this connection is still there... It is behind the veil, yes, but we still have it, whether we are aware of it or not... I find it fascinating, and it brings me such joy, and comfort.

Yes!!!

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Star Trek: The Mental Frontier

[Ankh]

I always wondered what it was which is 'that which is not'. Then, one day, it struck me (subjectively) that it could be fear. When the connection is total, there is no place for fear due to the realization of oneness with all of creation. However, behind the veil, fear can be potentiated, which provides the fuel for the work to be done on the path of STS (in my opinion).

82.22 Questioner: Then since the only possibility at this particular time, as I see it, was a polarization for service to others, I must assume from what you said that even though all were aware of this service to others necessity they were unable to achieve it. What was the configuration of mind of the mind/body/spirits at that time? Why did they have such a difficult time serving others to the extent necessary for graduation since this was the only polarity possible?

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition. Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex. There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear.

Nice catch of "...*or* benefit from fear" in that quote, Confused! So you understand that part as fuel for the work on the negative path? Can you explain more how you are thinking? (I was thinking that negatively polarized beings benefit from fear on their path, that causing fear benefits them on that service to self path.)

Then, it lead me to reflect on the following question --

95.22 Questioner: And it seems that the square upon which the entity sits, which is almost totally black, is a representation of the material illusion and the white cat is guarding the right-hand path which is now separated in experience from the left. Would Ra comment on that observation?

Ra: I am Ra. O student, your sight almost sees that which was intended. However, the polarities need no guardians. What, then, O student, needs the guard?

What needs the guard? That question haunted me for quite a while, and then, once again, subjectively, it struck that it could simply be this --

95.24 Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following. If the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, and as total purity is approached in the choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is exquisitely perceptive. The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.

Thus, for those on the STO path, it is the interpretations of the catalysts that needs the guard (personal deduction, of course), so that the interpretations may be protected by light.

Interesting thoughts! When looking deeper into this Archetype, I thought that this protection is from random catalyst, which I explained in this post. I then later had an experience of these cats. But you're right, and add a dimension to this that I have to think about.

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Nice catch of "...*or* benefit from fear" in that quote, Confused! So you understand that part as fuel for the work on the negative path? Can you explain more how you are thinking? (I was thinking that negatively polarized beings benefit from fear on their path, that causing fear benefits them on that service to self path.)

Hello, Ankh. It is such a pleasure to indulge in a chat with you on the LOO!!

I will add some more lines on my subjective understanding, in terms of my opinion on the matter of fear in negative polarization. Many quotes in the LOO deals with the dichotomy between the two paths, of which the following is one --

46.16 Questioner: What is the plan for use of the catalyst of cancer?

Ra: I am Ra. The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.

Ankh, we know that Ra stated that the STS path simply uses the veiling process in order to potentiate that which is not (85.9). At this stage, it might be well to remember (or contemplate) what exactly is the Veiling process. Actually, concrete definitions of the Veiling comes in the LOO only as late as Session 79, when through a series of questions, Don began grasping what the Veil actually was (in my opinion).

79.21 Questioner: The first change made then for this extension of free will was to make the communication between the Matrix and the Potentiator of the Mind relatively unavailable one to the other during the incarnation. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. We would perhaps rather term the condition as relatively more mystery-filled than relatively unavailable.

79.22 Questioner: The idea was then to create some type of veil between the Matrix and the Potentiator of the Mind. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

79.23 Questioner: This veil then occurs between what we now call the unconscious and conscious minds. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Don, I guess, also surmised that the Veiling lead to the creation of the first service-to-self polarity, as a result of the partition of the two archetypes of consciousness and the unconsciousness.

79.31 Questioner: Would The Choice exist at this point during the creation of the first service-to-self polarity?

Ra: I am Ra. Implicit in the veiling or separation of two archetypes is the concept of choice. The refinements to this concept took many experiences.

In fact, Don queried Ra on the first service-to-self polarity in 78.19, itself, which yielded reference to the concept called the significators. Anyway, for me, quite revealing is the seed thought that the path of STS was potentiated due to the drawing of the veil between the conscious and the unconscious.

79.6 Questioner: I would like to question about the third-density experience of those entities just prior to the original extension of the first distortion to the sub-Logoi to create the split of polarity. Can you describe, in general, the differences between the third-density experience of these mind/body/spirits and the ones who have evolved upon this planet now?

Ra: I am Ra. This material has been previously covered. Please query for specific interest.

79.7 Questioner: Specifically, in the experience where only the service-to-others polarity in third density evolved, was the veil that was drawn with respect to knowledge of previous incarnations, etc., in effect for those entities?

Ra: I am Ra. No.

79.8 Questioner: Was the reincarnational process like the one that we experience here in which the third-density body is entered and exited numerous times during the cycle?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

From the above quotes, it appears like before the Veiling, only the STO path was tread upon (I may be wrong), as the path of the STS did not exist as an option, even in concept, due to the lack of impetus for it without the tool of the Veil.

79.32 Questioner: I’m sorry that I have so much difficulty in asking these questions, but this is material that I find somewhat difficult.

I find it interesting that the very first experiment of veiling the Matrix of the Mind from the Potentiator of the Mind and visa-versa created service-to-self polarity. This seems to be a very important philosophical point in the development of the creation and possibly the beginning of a system of what we would call magic not envisioned previously.

Let me ask this question. Prior to the extension of the first distortion was the magical potential of the higher densities as great as it is now when the greatest potential was achieved in consciousness for each density? This is difficult to ask. What I am asking is that at the end of fourth density, prior to the extension of free will, was what we call magical potential as great as it is now at the end of fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. As you understand, if we may use this misnomer, magic, the magical potential in third and fourth density was then far greater than after the change. However, there was far, far less desire or will to use this potential.

79.33 Questioner: Now, to be sure that I understand you: prior to the change and the extension of free will, let’s take specifically the end of fourth density, magical potential for the condition when there was only service-to-others polarization was much greater at the end of fourth density than at the end of fourth density immediately after the split of polarization and the extension of free will. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Magical ability is the ability to consciously use the so-called unconscious. Therefore, there was maximal ability prior to the innovation of sub-Logoi’s free will.

Now, Ankh, along with the Veiling, came some other aspects, especially those related to the body --

83.20 Questioner: Would you give me an example of a complex activity of the body that we have now and how it was not complex prior to the veil?

Ra: I am Ra. Prior to the great experiment a mind/body/spirit was capable of controlling the pressure of blood in the vein, the beating of the organ you call the heart, the intensity of the sensation known to you as pain, and all the functions now understood to be involuntary or unconscious.

Ankh, I think it is important to grasp the gravity or the significance of the condition of painlessness before the Veil here, of the body --

83.23 Questioner: Before the veil the mind could blank out pain. I assume then, that the function of the pain at that time was to signal the body to assume a different configuration so that the source of the pain would leave, and then the pain could be eliminated mentally. Is that correct, and was there another function for the pain prior to the veiling?

Ra: I am Ra. Your assumption is correct. The function of pain at that time was as the warning of the fire alarm to those not smelling the smoke.

The powers above us actually had good intentions when they extended the depth of pain that can be felt, as part of the process of refining the experiment --

83.22 Questioner: Would you correct me, please?

Ra: I am Ra. There were many experiments whereby various of the functions or distortions of the body complex were veiled and others not. A large number of these experiments resulted in nonviable body complexes or those only marginally viable. For instance, it is not a survival-oriented mechanism for the nerve receptors to blank out unconsciously any distortions towards pain.

Can you imagine that, Ankh? Without the depth of involuntary body pain, there is no hunger, no fear of the pain of torture or grievous injury, etc. Put in other ways, the greatest tool of human separation in operation, i.e., the money system, may not even have evolved without such demands of the human body, such as the uncontrollable pain of hunger.

22.5 Questioner: Then can you give me a— Can I assume then that this drastic drop from 700-year life span to one— less than one hundred years in length during this second 25,000-year period was because of an intensification of a… of a condition of lack of service to others? Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is in part correct. By the end of the second cycle, the Law of Responsibility had begun to be effectuated by the increasing ability of entities to grasp those lessons which there are to be learned in this density. Thus, entities had discovered many ways to indicate a bellicose nature, not only as tribes or what you call nations but in personal relationships, each with the other, the concept of barter having given way in many cases to the concept of money; also, the concept of ownership having won ascendancy over the concept of non-ownership on an individual or group basis.

Each entity then was offered many more subtle ways of demonstrating either service towards others or service to self with the distortion of the manipulation of others. As each lesson was understood, those lessons of sharing, of giving, of receiving in free gratitude— each lesson could be rejected in practice.

Without demonstrating the fruits of such learn/teaching the life span became greatly reduced, for the ways of honor/duty were not being accepted.

11.28 Questioner: Would this freeing from darkness be commensurate with the Law of One or does this have any real product?

Ra: I am Ra. The product of such a freeing would create two experiences.

Firstly, the experience of no need to find the necessary emolument for payment, in your money, for energy.

Secondly, the leisure afforded, thereby exemplifying the possibility and enhancing the probability of the freedom to then search the self for the beginning of seeking the Law of One.

Few there are working physically from daybreak to darkness, as you name them, upon your plane who can contemplate the Law of One in a conscious fashion.

Anyway, I think that was a minor digression (i.e., the money concept discussion). However, Ankh, to summarize the nature of the extension of free will, which eventually lead to the concept of STS, as well, I think the following seriatim quotes would be useful --

77.17 Questioner: Would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, positive polarity. There was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function of only the positive polarization evolving from the original creation of our sub-Logos?

Ra: I am Ra. Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true-color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.

Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.

Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos.

77.18 Questioner: I guess, under the first distortion, it was the free will of the Logos to choose to evolve without free will. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

77.19 Questioner: Do the Logoi that choose this type of evolution choose both the service-to-self and the service-to-others path for different Logoi, or do they choose just one of the paths?

Ra: I am Ra. Those, what you would call, early Logoi which chose lack-of-free-will foundations, to all extents with no exceptions, founded Logoi of the service-to-others path. The, shall we say, saga of polarity, its consequences and limits, were unimagined until experienced.

77.20 Questioner: In other words you are saying that originally the Logoi that did not choose this free will path did not choose it simply because they had not conceived of it and that later Logoi, extending the first distortion farther down through their evolution, experienced it as an outcropping or growth from that extension of the first distortion. Am I correct in saying that?

Ra: I am Ra. Yes.

77.21 Questioner: Then did this particular Logos that we experience plan for this polarity and know all about it prior to its plan? I suspect that this is what happened.

Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

Notice closely the following extract from 77.17, Ankh --

... Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.

Knowledge of good and evil? That rings a bell, doesn't it? The tree of the knowledge good and evil, from the Bible (Genesis 2:17)? Thus, Ankh, after successive experiments, the Logos had learned clearly, the following --

78.24 Questioner: This is a hard question to ask, but what is the value experientially of the formation of positive and negative social memory complexes, of the separation of the polarities at that point rather than the allowing for the mixing of mind/body/spirit complexes of opposite polarity in the higher densities?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of polarity is to develop the potential to do work. This is the great characteristic of those, shall we say, experiments which have evolved since the concept of The Choice was appreciated. Work is done far more efficiently and with greater purity, intensity, and variety by the voluntary searching of mind/body/spirit complexes for the lessons of third and fourth densities. The action of fifth density is, viewed in space/time, the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action.

Thus, as part of experimentation, from a position of no polarity, we got to a stage of the dual polarities, in terms of facilitating the ability to do work.

78.16 Questioner: Then I am assuming that the central suns of our galaxy, in starting the evolutionary process in this galaxy, provided for, in their plans, the refinement of consciousness through the densities just as we experience it here. However, they did not conceive of the polarization of consciousness with respect to service to self and service to others. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

79.28 Questioner: Well I was aware of that. I probably didn’t state the question correctly. It’s a very difficult question to state. I don’t know if it’s worth attempting to continue with but what I meant was when this very first experiment with the veiling process occurred, did it result in service-to-self polarization with the first experiment?

Ra: I am Ra. The early, if we may use this term, Logoi produced service-to-self and service-to-others mind/body/spirit complexes immediately. The harvestability of these entities was not so immediate and thus refinements of the archetypes began apace.

That the STS path clearly depends on the illusory nature of the Veil to give credence to its very existence, as a concept, is clearly borne out by the following quote --

100.9 Questioner: It would also seem to me that, since Ra stated in the last session that the limit of the viewpoint is the source of all distortions, the very nature of the service-to-self distortions that create the left-hand path are a function of the veil. Therefore, they are dependent, you might say, to some degree on at least a partial continued veiling. Does this make any sense?

Ra: I am Ra. There is the thread of logic in what you suppose.

The polarities are both dependent upon a limited viewpoint. However, the negative polarity depends more heavily upon the illusory separation betwixt the self and all other mind/body/spirit complexes. The positive polarity attempts to see through the illusion to the Creator in each mind/body/spirit complex, but for the greater part is concerned with behaviors and thoughts directed towards other-selves in order to be of service. This attitude in itself is full of the stuff of your third-density illusion.

Since it is clear that the entire saga of polarity was to accentuate the ability of entities to do work, it would be useful to cast a glance on this topic, as well.

20.9 Questioner: Thank you. Yesterday we were speaking of the split that takes place in third density when an entity either consciously or because of bias chooses the path of service to others or service to self. The philosophical question of why such a split even exists came up. It is my impression that as it is in electricity, if we have no polarity in electricity we have no electricity; we have no action, we have no…. Therefore, I am assuming that in consciousness without such polarity there would be no action or experience. Is this correct?

Ra: This is correct. You may use the general term “work.”

20.10 Questioner: Then the concept of service to self or service to others is mandatory if we wish to have work, whether it be work in consciousness or work in the mechanical or Newtonian concept in the physical. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct with one addendum. The coil, as you may understand this term, is wound, is potential, is ready. The thing that is missing without polarizing is the charge.

There you have it, Ankh! Polarity helps to do work, whether at the level of the spiritual (or consciousness) or the world of the physical (i.e., in our case, earthly); or both.

Thus, using the magic of the positive polarity, Albert Schweitzer did his work of building an humanitarian network --

34.10 Questioner: If an entity were to be strongly biased toward positive societal effects, what would this do to his yellow ray in the aura as opposed to an entity who wanted to create an empire of society and govern it with an iron fist? What would be the difference in the yellow-ray activity of these two entities?

Ra: I am Ra. Let us take two such positively oriented active souls no longer in your physical time/space. The one known as Albert, who went into a strange and, to it, a barbaric society in order that it might heal. This entity was able to mobilize great amounts of energy and what you call money. This entity spent much green-ray energy both as a healer and as a lover of your instrument known as the organ. This entity’s yellow ray was bright and crystallized by the efforts needed to procure the funds to promulgate its efforts. However, the green and blue rays were of a toweringly brilliant nature as well. The higher levels, as you may call them, being activated, the lower, as you may call them, energy points remain, in a balanced being, quite, quite bright.

The other example is the entity, Martin. This entity dealt in a great degree with rather negative orange-ray and yellow-ray vibratory patterns. However, this entity was able to keep open the green-ray energy and due to the severity of its testing, if anything, this entity may be seen to have polarized more towards the positive due to its fidelity to service to others in the face of great catalyst.

And similarly, using the magic of the negative polarity, Genghis Khan built his empire --

11.13 Questioner: Who went to the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. The one known as Genghis Khan.

In both cases, the following underlined is evident, which is a direct function of the polarities --

78.24 Questioner: This is a hard question to ask, but what is the value experientially of the formation of positive and negative social memory complexes, of the separation of the polarities at that point rather than the allowing for the mixing of mind/body/spirit complexes of opposite polarity in the higher densities?

Ra: I am Ra. The purpose of polarity is to develop the potential to do work. This is the great characteristic of those, shall we say, experiments which have evolved since the concept of The Choice was appreciated. Work is done far more efficiently and with greater purity, intensity, and variety by the voluntary searching of mind/body/spirit complexes for the lessons of third and fourth densities. The action of fifth density is, viewed in space/time, the same with or without polarity. However, viewed in time/space, the experiences of wisdom are greatly enlarged and deepened due, again, to the voluntary nature of polarized mind/body/spirit action.

With respect to benefiting from fear that Ra talked about, it would be useful, here, to bear in mind that the STS path is more concerned with the world of matter; than the STO path (in my opinion) --

99.8 Questioner: Thank you. In Card Number Six I see the Transformation of the Mind, the male with crossed arms, representing transformation. The transformation is possible either toward the left or the right-hand path. The path is beckoned or led by the female, the Potentiator. The one on the right has the serpent of wisdom at the brow and is fully clothed, the one on the left having less clothing and indicating that the Potentiator is more concerned or attracted to the physical as the left-hand path is chosen and more concerned and attracted to the mental as the right-hand path is chosen.

The creature above points an arrow at the left-hand path indicating that if this path is chosen the chips, shall we say, will fall where they may, the path being unprotected as far as the activity of catalyst. The intellectual abilities of the chooser of the left-hand path would be the main guardian rather than the designed or built-in protection of the Logos for the right-hand path. The entity firing the arrow seems to be a second density entity which indicates that this catalyst could be produced by a lesser evolved source, you might say. Would Ra comment on these observations?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall speak upon several aspects seriatim. Firstly, let us examine the crossed arms of the male who is to be transformed. What, O student, do you make of the crossing? What see you in this tangle? There is a creative point to be found in this element which was not discussed overmuch by the questioner.

Let us now observe the evaluation of the two females. The observation that to the left-hand path moves the roughly physical and to the right-hand path the mental has a shallow correctness. There are deeper observations to be made concerning the relationship of the great sea of the unconscious mind to the conscious mind which may fruitfully be pursued. Remember, O student, that these images are not literal. They haunt rather than explicate.

Many use the trunk and roots of mind as if that portion of mind were a badly used, prostituted entity. Then this entity gains from this great storehouse that which is rough, prostituted, and without great virtue. Those who turn to the deep mind, seeing it in the guise of the maiden, go forth to court it. The courtship has nothing of plunder in its semblance and may be protracted, yet the treasure gained by such careful courtship is great. The right-hand and left-hand transformations of the mind may be seen to differ by the attitude of the conscious mind towards its own resources as well as the resources of other-selves.

We now speak of that genie, or elemental, or mythic figure, culturally determined, which sends the arrow to the left-hand transformation. This arrow is not the arrow which kills but rather that which, in its own way, protects. Those who choose separation, that being the quality most indicative of the left-hand path, are protected from other-selves by a strength and sharpness equivalent to the degree of transformation which the mind has experienced in the negative sense. Those upon the right-hand path have no such protection against other-selves for upon that path the doughty seeker shall find many mirrors for reflection in each other-self it encounters.

Now, let us turn to the below quote, Ankh --

95.26 Questioner: Am I to understand, then, that there is no protection at all if the Experience of the Mind has chosen the left-hand path and that path is traveled? All random catalyst may affect the negatively polarized individual as a function of the statistical nature of the random catalyst. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. You may note some of those of your peoples which, at this space/time nexus, seek places of survival. This is due to the lack of protection when service to self is invoked.

From the above, it can be deducted, somewhat logically (in my opinion), that the STS path is invoked through the element of fear, like in the act of seeking places of survival (which is not to suggest that it is in anyway wrong).

The following two quotes further sketch the point better, I think --

43.5 Questioner: I’ll just try to pick up the last question left over from the last session, if you can answer it. I don’t know if it is of any importance, but it just occurred to me that the parts removed in cattle mutilations are the same every time, and I just wondered if this was related to the energy centers and… and why they were important if that was so?

Ra: I am Ra. This is basically correct if you may understand that there is a link between energy centers and various thought-forms. Thus the fears of the mass consciousness create the climate for the concentration upon the removal of bodily parts which symbolize areas of concern or fear in the mass consciousness.

43.6 Questioner: Are you saying, then, that these parts that are removed are related to the mass consciousness of the third-density human form on the planet and this fear is being used in some way by the second-density entities, or correction, the thought-form entities that do the mutilations?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct as latterly stated. The thought-form entities feed upon fear; thus they are able to do precise damage according to systems of symbology. The other second-density types of which you speak need the, what you call, blood.

Thus, the moment you got someone fearing for their circumstance inordinately; rather than being able to accept it with gratitude for any silver lining still present, then I think you have a good potential recruit for the STS path. Let us now look at a series of quotes, again --

95.23 Questioner: What I meant to say was that the entity is guarded along the right-hand path, once it has chosen this path, from effects of the material illusion that are of the negative polarity. Would Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an accurate perception of our intent, O student. We may note that the great cat guards in direct proportion to the purity of the manifestations of intention and the purity of inner work done along this path.

95.24 Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following. If the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, and as total purity is approached in the choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is exquisitely perceptive. The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.

95.25 Questioner: I have often wondered about the action of random and programmed catalyst with respect to the entity with the very strong positive or negative polarization. Would either polarity be free to a great extent from random catalyst such as great natural catastrophes or warfare or something like that which generates a lot of random catalyst in the physical vicinity of a highly polarized entity? Does this great cat, then, have an effect on such random catalyst on the right-hand path?

Ra: I am Ra. In two circumstances this is so. Firstly, if there has been the pre-incarnative choice that, for instance, one shall not take life in the service of the cultural group, events shall fall in a protective manner. Secondly, if any entity is able to dwell completely in unity the only harm that may occur to it is the changing of the outward physical, yellow-ray vehicle into the more light-filled mind/body/spirit complex’s vehicle by the process of death. All other suffering and pain is as nothing to one such as this.

We may note that this perfect configuration of the mind, body, and spirit complexes, while within the third-density vehicle, is extraordinarily rare.

As far as I can understand, there is no complete protection from the physical effects of random catalysts for entities on the right hand path, with them only having the option of programming their mind so that "all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator."

Of course, we all know one entity who accomplished that --

17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?

Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.

This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.

This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus to you.

What will we do when pushed into a corner? Will we accept the situation with purity of thought and intent, with our viewpoint(s) protected by interpretations of light; or will we give into fear and temptation?

After all, deducing from the aforementioned quote (as per the LOO), Jesus could have turned into an earthly ruler, if he had consented to use his great powers, under the duress of whatever situation that Judas orchestrated for that purpose!

The Lord too cried out in agony, Ankh, as the date of crucifixion neared. Do we not remember the prayer that the Lord prayed in the garden of Gethsemane? --

[36] Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.
[37] And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
[38] Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
[39] And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
[40] And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
[41] Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
[42] He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.


Source: The Holy Bible, Matthew 26, KJV; http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-...te=4500671

Image source: Jesus praying to God the Father in Gethsemane, Heinrich Hofmann, 1890. Retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agony_in_the_Garden

How we react to the Catalyst of the Body tells us a lot about the spiritual seeker, I think --

81.11 Questioner: Going back to the previous session, picking up on the tenth archetype, which is the Catalyst of the Body, the Wheel of Fortune represents interaction with other-selves. Is this a correct statement?

Ra: I am Ra. This may be seen to be a roughly correct statement in that each catalyst is dealing with the nature of those experiences entering the energy web and vibratory perceptions of the mind/body/spirit complex. The most carefully noted addition would be that the outside stimulus of the Wheel of Fortune is that which offers both positive and negative experience.

42.4 Questioner: Would a perfectly balanced entity feel an emotional response when being attacked by the other-self?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The response is love.

As always, the interpretations of the catalysts and the choice of our individual actions in response, is our own.

[AnthroHeart]

Is love in a 4th density positive planet strong enough to keep a 4th density negative empire from taking over and making slaves of it? It's hard to serve if you're a slave. As always Confused, I love your posts. So insightful.

[Confused]

Ruth, this is especially for you! It has English subtitles

This is my most favorite actor and my most favorite scene, of all time. It is an Indian movie and thus I will give some context.

The movie is based on the concept of reincarnation, as many Indian movies have been in the past, due to the general cultural belief in the concept. In the storyline of this movie (titled Om Shanti Om), a poor individual who wants to make it big in the movie industry, as a lead actor, is killed. He takes birth again as the son of a leading movie star. As years roll by, the now reincarnated man grows into a big star of his own, but is very much a brat. In the scene attached, he is being awarded in a very prestigious movie industry awards night. As he takes the stage to speak, he suddenly starts spouting words that are completely foreign to him, in the sense of his character. Actually, he spoke those words in his previous incarnation, when together with a friend and a group of poor children on the street, he stages a mock award winning speech, with a bottle of beer as the memento and with a comb in his hand, doubling up as the mike. You can see the bleed-through of his inter-incarnational memories shown, as well, in the scene.

It is really a great scene and the dialog is extremely awesome, beautiful and inspiring. It reminds us of the strength of us humans, each and everyone of us from every background, as to how equally wonderful we all are. Differences between people only exists in the mind. If we want to reach out for the stars, together, the universe will definitely hold our hands! Wonderful piece of acting, as well, by my favorite star -- the one and only, Shahrukh Khan!!

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Is love in a 4th density positive planet strong enough to keep a 4th density negative empire from taking over and making slaves of it? It's hard to serve if you're a slave. As always Confused, I love your posts. So insightful.

Great question, GW. I do not know a specific answer to it, really.

However, a very thought provoking question. I agree regarding the difficulties of being a slave!

Thank you, very deeply and from the depth of my heart, for your kind words, as well, my friend!

[Ruth]

Confused -

As to your earlier discussion with Ankh about the positive vs negative paths and the roles of fear and protection. I don't believe that fear always leads to an STS path. I believe that those on the STS path often use fear, generate fear, to control other selves, especially other selves that are not "on a path", so to speak. Or as Ra called them those who ". . . .have little urge to alter or better their condition."

I think that fear sometimes is an impetus for people like that to try to move more toward service to others, and I believe this was so stated or at least hinted at in the material somewhere, but I can't seem to find it right now. I do know that I have seen many of our brothers and sisters here on bring4th wonder if they were "harvestable" - and I believe that the fear of not being harvestable is sometimes a motivator to more actively chose the STO path.

I was interested in your quoting the Bible. Every time I read anything from the LOO material, I believe there are parallel messages to be found in the Bible. That is what drew me to the material in the first place.

Gemini Wolf - I do believe that the material mentions that the spiritual struggle or "war" continues in other dimensions. However, I do not believe that there is anything in the Universe that can separate us from the love of our Creator. So even if we somehow become "slaves" in physical form, I believe we are still able to choose to be of service to others. I think you have nothing at all to fear. This is my personal belief, and as always please feel free to take or leave it as best suits your own needs.

About the video - it is quite a beautiful story, once which I believe we play out over and over in our lives, even when we don't have the glimpses that this individual seemed to have when reciting his speech. Your sharing of it is much appreciated. I believe I have told you about a dear friend I met when I worked in downtown Dallas, TX who was from India. We had many, many discussions about the nature of life, time etc. and found that despite our seeming disparate backgrounds and teachings received during our upbringing, we were actually quite similar in our beliefs, and indeed in our experiences in life.

I have rented the Life of Pi to watch tonight after dinner. Have you seen it yet?

Much love to you all!

[Confused]

Confused -

As to your earlier discussion with Ankh about the positive vs negative paths and the roles of fear and protection. I don't believe that fear always leads to an STS path. I believe that those on the STS path often use fear, generate fear, to control other selves, especially other selves that are not "on a path", so to speak. Or as Ra called them those who ". . . .have little urge to alter or better their condition."

I think that fear sometimes is an impetus for people like that to try to move more toward service to others, and I believe this was so stated or at least hinted at in the material somewhere, but I can't seem to find it right now. I do know that I have seen many of our brothers and sisters here on bring4th wonder if they were "harvestable" - and I believe that the fear of not being harvestable is sometimes a motivator to more actively chose the STO path.

I was interested in your quoting the Bible. Every time I read anything from the LOO material, I believe there are parallel messages to be found in the Bible. That is what drew me to the material in the first place.

Gemini Wolf - I do believe that the material mentions that the spiritual struggle or "war" continues in other dimensions. However, I do not believe that there is anything in the Universe that can separate us from the love of our Creator. So even if we somehow become "slaves" in physical form, I believe we are still able to choose to be of service to others. I think you have nothing at all to fear. This is my personal belief, and as always please feel free to take or leave it as best suits your own needs.

About the video - it is quite a beautiful story, once which I believe we play out over and over in our lives, even when we don't have the glimpses that this individual seemed to have when reciting his speech. Your sharing of it is much appreciated. I believe I have told you about a dear friend I met when I worked in downtown Dallas, TX who was from India. We had many, many discussions about the nature of life, time etc. and found that despite our seeming disparate backgrounds and teachings received during our upbringing, we were actually quite similar in our beliefs, and indeed in our experiences in life.

I have rented the Life of Pi to watch tonight after dinner. Have you seen it yet?

Much love to you all!

No, Ruth, I have not watched the 'Life of Pi', yet. One of these days, I should, I guess.

Regarding the fear factor, I had more the potentials rather than the actual manifestations, in my mind.

In terms of America and India, I somehow think that the two countries have a very close destiny of some kind. It is interesting that Christopher Columbus reached the new continent, while setting out in the quest to reach India through the most optimum sea route. India's modern rise is also closely tied with the commercial and people to people relationships that our country has with America. It is a genuine partnership, I believe. It is now translating in many cases into family ties, as well, for I increasingly now hear of Indo-American marriages. There was one within my extended family, too.

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Is love in a 4th density positive planet strong enough to keep a 4th density negative empire from taking over and making slaves of it? It's hard to serve if you're a slave. As always Confused, I love your posts. So insightful.

As I said yesterday, GW, this is a very interesting question. May be I could try finding some quotes that speak, at least tangentially, on this idea.

I was so exhausted after the long post to Ankh yesterday that I had no energy left to blog after that.

[Confused]

60.14 Questioner: Then is the large underwater pyramid off the Florida coast one of the balancing pyramids that Ra constructed or did some other social memory complex construct it and if so, which one?

Ra: I am Ra. That pyramid of which you speak was one whose construction was aided by sixth-density entities of a social memory complex working with Atlanteans prior to our working with the, as you call them, Egyptians.

Here is a March 1987 news clipping, which is quite notable, given the above quote from the LOO --
Treasure hunter says he found pyramid off the Florida coast

[Confused]

Whenever I listen to good music, something stirs within my depths, giving me a feel of the majestic generative power of the One Infinite Creator. I wonder whether music has the power to create a bridge between space/time and time/space?

Here is one such excellent piece of music. Hans Zimmer is epic!

[Ankh]

Is love in a 4th density positive planet strong enough to keep a 4th density negative empire from taking over and making slaves of it? It's hard to serve if you're a slave.

You're right, Gemini Wolf, it is hard to serve when you become a slave. This was the reason to "war in heavens" as it is sometimes referred to:

At the level of time/space at which this takes place in the form of what you may call thought-war, the most accepting and loving energy would be to so love those who wished to manipulate that those entities were surrounded, engulfed, and transformed by positive energies.

This, however, being a battle of equals, the Confederation is aware that it cannot, on equal footing, allow itself to be manipulated in order to remain purely positive, for then though pure it would not be of any consequence, having been placed by the so-called powers of darkness under the heel, as you may say.

It is thus that those who deal with this thought-war must be defensive rather than accepting in order to preserve their usefulness in service to others. Thusly, they cannot accept fully what the Orion Confederation wishes to give, that being enslavement. Thusly, some polarity is lost due to this friction and both sides, if you will, must then regroup.

It has not been fruitful for either side. The only consequence which has been helpful is a balancing of the energies available to this planet so that these energies have less necessity to be balanced in this space/time, thus lessening the chances of planetary annihilation.

As you can read above, positive entities had to be more defensive than accepting when dealing with this "war" as they would not be able to be of service to others if they would become enslaved. Buuuut... This was well! Because as you can read further, this war in heaven, was helpful in balancing these energies in time/space, so that these energies had less necessity to be balanced in space/time, *thus lessening risks of annihilating this planet*.

Enslavement is also what made the entity of 4D+ to walk-in into the entity known as Abraham Lincoln:

The one known as Abraham had an extreme difficulty in many ways and, due to physical, mental, and spiritual pain, was weary of life but without the orientation to self-destruction. In your time, 1853, this entity was contacted in sleep by a fourth-density being. This being was concerned with the battle between the forces of light and the forces of darkness which have been waged in fourth density for many of your years.

This entity accepted the honor/duty of completing the one known as Abraham’s karmic patterns and the one known as Abraham discovered that this entity would attempt those things which the one known as Abraham desired to do but felt it could not. Thus the exchange was made.

The entity, Abraham, was taken to a plane of suspension until the cessation of its physical vehicle much as though we of Ra would arrange with this instrument to remain in the vehicle, come out of the trance state, and function as this instrument, leaving this instrument’s mind and spirit complex in its suspended state.

The planetary energies at this time were at what seemed to this entity to be at a critical point, for that which you know as freedom had gained in acceptance as a possibility among many peoples. This entity saw the work done by those beginning the democratic concept of freedom, as you call it, in danger of being abridged or abrogated by the rising belief and use of the principle of the enslavement of entities. This is a negative concept of a fairly serious nature in your density. This entity, therefore, went forward into what it saw as the battle for the light, for healing of a rupture in the concept of freedom.

This entity did not gain or lose karma by these activities due to its detachment from any outcome. Its attitude throughout was one of service to others, more especially to the downtrodden or enslaved. The polarity of the individual was somewhat, but not severely, lessened by the cumulative feelings and thought-forms which were created due to large numbers of entities leaving the physical plane due to trauma of battle.

As you can read above this fourth density positive being was concerned that the freedom was in danger, and that enslavement "is a negative concept of a fairly serious nature in our density", which was the reason for this being to become involved.

@ Confused, thank you for your thoughtfull reply, my brother. I'll be back!

[Confused]

I'll be back!

Dear Ankh is channeling Arnold from T2, there! :p


Image source: http://bookedupbloggers.blogspot.in/2012...byeee.html

[Confused]

42.12 Questioner: In the last session you said, “the self, if conscious to a great enough extent of the workings of the catalyst of fasting, and the techniques of programming, may through concentration of the will and the faculty of faith alone cause reprogramming without the analogy of fasting, diet, or other analogous body complex disciplines.” What are the techniques of programming which the higher self uses to ensure that the desired lessons are learned or… or attempted by the third-density self in our third-density incarnational laboratory?

Ra: I am Ra. There is but one technique for this growing or nurturing of will and faith, and that is the focusing of the attention. The attention span of those you call children is considered short. The spiritual attention span of most of your peoples is that of the child. Thus it is a matter of wishing to become able to collect one’s attention and hold it upon the desired programming.

This, when continued, strengthens the will. The entire activity can only occur when there exists faith that an outcome of this discipline is possible.

Guess one should never give up!

[Ankh]

Hello, Ankh. It is such a pleasure to indulge in a chat with you on the LOO!!

Hello, beautiful! And likewise!

First of all, nice catch with the veil that potentiates that which is not, and secondly nice connection that you made to the body! Now, that I think of it, I see that if we wouldn't *fear* the death or pain or some other major discomforts of the body, there would be no fear perhaps? Aaaand beings who would benefit from this fear...? :p

Ankh, we know that Ra stated that the STS path simply uses the veiling process in order to potentiate that which is not (85.9).

Niiice one! I kind of missed this part in my understandings this far.

Anyway, it potentiates that which is not in third density, and then keeps working with this potential in higher densities:

The power of falsity is deep as is the power to discern truth from shadow. The shadow of hidden things is an infinite depth in which is stored the power of the One Infinite Creator.

The adept, then, is working with the power of hidden things illuminated by that which can be false or true. To embrace falsity, to know it, to seek it, and to use it gives a power that is most great.

Anyway, for me, quite revealing is the seed thought that the path of STS was potentiated due to the drawing of the veil between the conscious and the unconscious.

Yes, I agree. And since the veil was drawn in the mind itself, spirit and body complexes got veiled too, because if looking at the Archetypes, there came a possibility of the spirit complex to absorb the power of One Creator. A possibility that probably did not exist pre-veil, right?

The Significator of the Spirit is that living entity which either radiates or absorbs the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator, radiates it to others or absorbs it for the self.

So with that said, I believe that negative polarity might, as you have already said, feed on this fear. If a negatively polarized entity can instill fear into anyone, no matter of polarity or non-polarity, it has gained control or manipulated a being, and thus perhaps absorbed some kind of spiritual power?

Since it is clear that the entire saga of polarity was to accentuate the ability of entities to do work, it would be useful to cast a glance on this topic, as well.

20.9 Questioner: Thank you. Yesterday we were speaking of the split that takes place in third density when an entity either consciously or because of bias chooses the path of service to others or service to self. The philosophical question of why such a split even exists came up. It is my impression that as it is in electricity, if we have no polarity in electricity we have no electricity; we have no action, we have no…. Therefore, I am assuming that in consciousness without such polarity there would be no action or experience. Is this correct?

Ra: This is correct. You may use the general term “work.”

Ah! Wonderful quote, isn't it?

So this specific STO/STS polarity that we experience in this octave is here for us to do the *work*. Yes, but what kind of work? Well, I guess we are here to potentiate a part of the One Infinite Creator, or infinity, in us all which wants to experience either service for love or benefiting from fear, in a meaningful for itself way...? I.e. free will finding its focus of love in an infinite potential, right? =)

34.10 Questioner: If an entity were to be strongly biased toward positive societal effects, what would this do to his yellow ray in the aura as opposed to an entity who wanted to create an empire of society and govern it with an iron fist? What would be the difference in the yellow-ray activity of these two entities?

Ra: I am Ra. Let us take two such positively oriented active souls no longer in your physical time/space. The one known as Albert, who went into a strange and, to it, a barbaric society in order that it might heal. This entity was able to mobilize great amounts of energy and what you call money. This entity spent much green-ray energy both as a healer and as a lover of your instrument known as the organ. This entity’s yellow ray was bright and crystallized by the efforts needed to procure the funds to promulgate its efforts. However, the green and blue rays were of a toweringly brilliant nature as well. The higher levels, as you may call them, being activated, the lower, as you may call them, energy points remain, in a balanced being, quite, quite bright.

The other example is the entity, Martin. This entity dealt in a great degree with rather negative orange-ray and yellow-ray vibratory patterns. However, this entity was able to keep open the green-ray energy and due to the severity of its testing, if anything, this entity may be seen to have polarized more towards the positive due to its fidelity to service to others in the face of great catalyst.

This quote was quite interesting actually! I have not looked deeper enough into these two entities yet. Thank you, brother!

I am sometimes trying to learn about what is said about other entities in order to seek an understanding of this current experience, whether these entities are general Patton, or Abraham Lincoln, or Don. And as I said, I have not looked into these two yet. From the above quote it seems as a very interesting learning of different energy centers and different aids to our society...

With respect to benefiting from fear that Ra talked about, it would be useful, here, to bear in mind that the STS path is more concerned with the world of matter; than the STO path (in my opinion) --

This was also a very interesting understanding that you've shared! I will keep it in mind in my further seeking. Once again, thank you, brother!

95.26 Questioner: Am I to understand, then, that there is no protection at all if the Experience of the Mind has chosen the left-hand path and that path is traveled? All random catalyst may affect the negatively polarized individual as a function of the statistical nature of the random catalyst. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. You may note some of those of your peoples which, at this space/time nexus, seek places of survival. This is due to the lack of protection when service to self is invoked.

From the above, it can be deducted, somewhat logically (in my opinion), that the STS path is invoked through the element of fear, like in the act of seeking places of survival (which is not to suggest that it is in anyway wrong).

Um... I've looked into this quote before, and I interpret it slightly differently. Don says among other things: "...All random catalyst may affect the negatively polarized individual as a function of the statistical nature of the random catalyst..." And Ra answers among other things that it is correct. The way I interpret their "...due to the lack of protection when service to self is invoked..." is that those people who seek places of survival are invoking service to self because they are not concerned with other selves when seeking places of survival, but are concerned with their self, their own survival, real or not, thus the random catalyst will hit them because this is the function and nature of random catalyst. However, if an entity is positively polarized, then it will not be hit by this random catalyst. And this was my understanding of the great cat in Archetype Four.

But I am totally willing to abandon this understanding if it is not correct.

Thus, the moment you got someone fearing for their circumstance inordinately; rather than being able to accept it with gratitude for any silver lining still present, then I think you have a good potential recruit for the STS path.

Or it could be a wanderer too (since they are targets of negative entities) who is trying to polarize positively. In a view which appreciates the darkness, pain of other selves, and suffering - the less light, the better, I guess. So if an entity fears something, they will most probably try to offer those thoughts which bring that fear, or separation; i.e. depolarizing a positively polarizing entity for a short while.

Let us now look at a series of quotes, again --

95.23 Questioner: What I meant to say was that the entity is guarded along the right-hand path, once it has chosen this path, from effects of the material illusion that are of the negative polarity. Would Ra comment on that?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an accurate perception of our intent, O student. We may note that the great cat guards in direct proportion to the purity of the manifestations of intention and the purity of inner work done along this path.

95.24 Questioner: From that statement I interpret the following. If the Experience of the Mind has sufficiently chosen the right-hand path, and as total purity is approached in the choosing of the right-hand path, then total imperviousness from the effect of the left-hand catalyst is also approached. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is exquisitely perceptive. The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience. There is no outward shelter in your illusion from the gusts, flurries, and blizzards of quick and cruel catalyst.

However, to the pure, all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator. The cruelest blow is seen with an ambiance of challenges offered and opportunities to come. Thusly, the great pitch of light is held high above such an one so that all interpretation may be seen to be protected by light.

Let's look into this quote a little bit closer before moving on. Here Ra says: "The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience." This is what, among other things, made me to come to a conclusion that this great cat protects from real random catalysts. That these catalysts are actually real in space/time. For instance, imagine that you live in an area which will experience some kind of natural disaster. If you are invoking service to self, as mentioned earlier, than you will experience all kind of random catalyst during this disaster. But if you have purely chosen service to others path, then you will either 1. die instantly, in order to not experience chaos etc when this disaster occurs, or 2. not experience any major inconviences, but will sleep deeply in your bed while the world outside is in chaos. The below quote also briefly mentions it. (I will take away your underlining of below text, and put mine in order to highlight what I mean):

95.25 Questioner: I have often wondered about the action of random and programmed catalyst with respect to the entity with the very strong positive or negative polarization. Would either polarity be free to a great extent from random catalyst such as great natural catastrophes or warfare or something like that which generates a lot of random catalyst in the physical vicinity of a highly polarized entity? Does this great cat, then, have an effect on such random catalyst on the right-hand path?

Ra: I am Ra. In two circumstances this is so. Firstly, if there has been the pre-incarnative choice that, for instance, one shall not take life in the service of the cultural group, events shall fall in a protective manner. Secondly, if any entity is able to dwell completely in unity the only harm that may occur to it is the changing of the outward physical, yellow-ray vehicle into the more light-filled mind/body/spirit complex’s vehicle by the process of death. All other suffering and pain is as nothing to one such as this.

We may note that this perfect configuration of the mind, body, and spirit complexes, while within the third-density vehicle, is extraordinarily rare.

So my understanding is that there might be two ways of protection that this cat offers: 1. Protection from real space/time random catalyst. 2. The more an entity can dwell in unity, the less harm it will naturally experience due to its closeness to oneness with One Creator.

As far as I can understand, there is no complete protection from the physical effects of random catalysts for entities on the right hand path, with them only having the option of programming their mind so that "all that is encountered speaks of the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator."

Um... I am not sure that I agree. I believe that there is some protection. As mentioned earlier, a positively polarized entity will not have a variant *incarnational* experiences and it is protected from random catalysts; and this - "all that is encountered speaks of love and light" - is an *additional* step taken further for a positively polarized entity. But as I mentioned before, I am completely willing to abandon this understanding, if it is not correct.

How we react to the Catalyst of the Body tells us a lot about the spiritual seeker, I think --

81.11 Questioner: Going back to the previous session, picking up on the tenth archetype, which is the Catalyst of the Body, the Wheel of Fortune represents interaction with other-selves. Is this a correct statement?

Ra: I am Ra. This may be seen to be a roughly correct statement in that each catalyst is dealing with the nature of those experiences entering the energy web and vibratory perceptions of the mind/body/spirit complex. The most carefully noted addition would be that the outside stimulus of the Wheel of Fortune is that which offers both positive and negative experience.

Again, interesting connection to the body here, Confused. I must admit that Archetypes of the Body and body itself is of least understanding to me. (Ironically enough, I work as a nurse... )

Thank you, dear brother, for this "talk". /

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I'll be back!

Dear Ankh is channeling Arnold from T2, there! :p


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That's exactly what was on my mind when I said that!

[AnthroHeart]

So will I have to join in the war in heaven (time/space) when I get there? I feel I'll be too tired to assist.
But I guess in order to be of service to others in time/space I'll need to assist in that war to keep the dark forces at bay.
Or is it handled by angels? They are probably more effective than I am.
Thank you Ankh and Confused for your responses.

[Confused]

So will I have to join in the war in heaven (time/space) when I get there? I feel I'll be too tired to assist.
But I guess in order to be of service to others in time/space I'll need to assist in that war to keep the dark forces at bay.
Or is it handled by angels? They are probably more effective than I am.
Thank you Ankh and Confused for your responses.

GW, the following quote may be of interest to you, though it speaks of a scenario of Orion interaction with 3D earth ==

16.9 Questioner: If the Orion group was able to land, would this increase their polarization? What I am trying to get at is, is it better for them to work behind the scenes and get recruits, shall we say, from our planet, the person on our planet going towards service to self strictly on his own using his free will, or is it just as good for the Orion group to land upon our planet and demonstrate remarkable powers and get people like that?

Ra: I am Ra. The first instance is, in the long run, shall we put it, more salubrious for the Orion group in that it does not infringe upon the Law of One by landing and, thus, does its work through those of this planet. In the second circumstance, a mass landing would create a loss of polarization due to the infringement upon the free will of the planet. However, it would be a gamble. If the planet then were conquered and became part of the Empire, the free will would then be re-established. This is restrained in action due to the desire of the Orion group to progress towards the One Creator. This desire to progress inhibits the group from breaking the Law of Confusion.

Thus, it is very evident that the Orion group too has to place serious importance on the free will of their targets, so as to not hinder their own progress. I think that is a crucial point to note.

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But I am totally willing to abandon this understanding if it is not correct.

Dear Ankh, you are a real inspiration.

Most people who are regular to the b4th board know that you are an excellent and serious student of the LOO material, for whom the word of Ra is akin to indisputable gospel. Thus, you study and interpret the material very carefully. Yet, you so willingly and with great humility, always make it a point to declare that you would be willing to reconsider your interpretations, if another student is able to make logically persuasive arguments that are based on the LOO. That is real wonderful example of spiritual humility and the thirst for learning and growth, Ankh.

You are an inspiration and almost an institution, by yourself, in terms of your dedication to upholding the core principles of the LOO.

I will be drafting a more formal response to your post when I get some time. In short, I'll be back!

[Confused]

v21.10 Questioner: When incarnation ceases to become automatic I am assuming that the entity can decide when he needs to reincarnate for his— the benefit of his own learning. Does he also select his parents?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

[Confused]

Let's look into this quote a little bit closer before moving on. Here Ra says: "The seeker which has purely chosen the service-to-others path shall certainly not have a variant apparent incarnational experience." This is what, among other things, made me to come to a conclusion that this great cat protects from real random catalysts. That these catalysts are actually real in space/time. For instance, imagine that you live in an area which will experience some kind of natural disaster. If you are invoking service to self, as mentioned earlier, than you will experience all kind of random catalyst during this disaster. But if you have purely chosen service to others path, then you will either 1. die instantly, in order to not experience chaos etc when this disaster occurs, or 2. not experience any major inconviences, but will sleep deeply in your bed while the world outside is in chaos.

OK, got some time to make the post!

Cutting to the chase, Ankh, I think what many spiritual seekers, who are good and pure at heart, have trouble reconciling is the situation of cruel and random catalysts (like violent crime, unexpected and painful upheavals, etc) affecting them, also, despite their commitment to goodness and holiness in the universe. It all seems unfair and unjust. After all, if we are making the effort to live by the universe's code of spiritual quest and sacramental living, we deserve some protection, in return, for our 'sacrifices', don't we? I think you get the drift of what emotion I am trying to convey using those words, knowing that language is a very clumsy tool, that can very often obfuscate; rather than clarify.

Ankh, I was searching for a good metaphor to make my point on the area of 'interpretation of catalysts', when I suddenly chanced upon the following blog post, which speaks to the subject --

Batman as a Heroic Sociopath

If you are done reading the above Batman blog, Ankh, please read the following LOO quotes, carefully, and we can take it from there --

46.10 Questioner: Then as I understand it you are saying that if the positively polarizing entity fails to accept the other-self or if the negatively polarizing entity fails to control the other-self, either of these conditions will cause cancer, possibly. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. The first acceptance, or control depending upon polarity, is of the self. Anger is one of many things to be accepted and loved as a part of self or controlled as a part of self, if the entity is to do work.

42.18 Questioner: Then in attempting to reproduce this experience would I then best follow practices for the Order of the Golden Dawn in reproducing this?

Ra: I am Ra. To attempt to reproduce an initiatory experience is to move, shall we say, backwards. However, the practice of this form of service to others is appropriate in your case working with your associates. It is not well for positively polarized entities to work singly. The reasons for this are obvious.

Ankh, I do not claim to know anything for sure. I am too much of a neophyte, myself, and am only just starting to discover the magnificence latent in the LOO, which many seekers have already done in the past. All these posts of mine are only speculations and discussions, which hold the hope of carrying me close and closer, to the essence of the truths underlying the creation of the One Infinite Creator.

77.23 Questioner: In that case, it seems that a thorough knowledge of the precise nature of these philosophical foundations would be of primary importance to the study of evolution of mind, body, and spirit, and I would like to carefully go through each, starting with the mind. Is this agreeable with Ra?

Ra: I am Ra. This is agreeable with two requests which must be made. Firstly, that an attempt be made to state the student’s grasp of each archetype. We may then comment. We cannot teach/learn to the extent of learn/teaching. Secondly, we request that it be constantly kept before the mind, as the candle before the eye, that each mind/body/spirit complex shall, and should, and indeed must perceive each archetype, if you use this convenient term, in its own way. Therefore, you may see that precision is not the goal; rather quality of general concept complex perception is the goal.

Extract of Ra's words, 96.4: May we note that just as each entity strives in each moment to become more nearly one with the Creator but falls short, just so is physical spotlessness striven for but not achieved. In each case the purity of intention and thoroughness of manifestation are appreciated. The variance between the attempt and the goal is never noted and may be considered unimportant.

[Confused]

One of those special feelings that make life worth living is the rush of the first adolescent love that sweeps one into a different dimension, altogether. This song is from a movie released in 1992. Whenever I listen to this song, I get transported back through time, to my years in school, when I had my first crush. Ha! the beauty of that feeling. It will stay with me throughout this lifetime.

If anybody decides to watch this lovely song, please note that for the first few seconds, the poster of the film is flashed on the video. The song starts after those few seconds, and English subtitles are available, as well.

[Confused]

[Ankh]

So will I have to join in the war in heaven (time/space) when I get there? I feel I'll be too tired to assist.
But I guess in order to be of service to others in time/space I'll need to assist in that war to keep the dark forces at bay.
Or is it handled by angels? They are probably more effective than I am.
Thank you Ankh and Confused for your responses.

This war was asked to be fought by fourth density, Gemini Wolf. And I don't know if it is still ongoing. It sounds like it's not, because both Orion and Confederation had to retreat from this war, and regroup due to depolarization of both sides. Orion depolarized due to inability to control and manipulate, and Confederation due to inability to accept. So I don't think that you have anything to worry about, dear GW.

...for whom the word of Ra is akin to indisputable gospel.

More like a love song that I haven't heard for a very long time... I can't describe all that comes up in me when listening to this melody...

Extract of Ra's words, 96.4: May we note that just as each entity strives in each moment to become more nearly one with the Creator but falls short, just so is physical spotlessness striven for but not achieved. In each case the purity of intention and thoroughness of manifestation are appreciated. The variance between the attempt and the goal is never noted and may be considered unimportant.

This is amazing!! This is the second time this particular quote shows up today, catching my attention. Wonder if Universe wants to tell me something.

Thank you for everything, dear brother!

[AnthroHeart]

This war was asked to be fought by fourth density, Gemini Wolf. And I don't know if it is still ongoing. It sounds like it's not, because both Orion and Confederation had to retreat from this war, and regroup due to depolarization of both sides. Orion depolarized due to inability to control and manipulate, and Confederation due to inability to accept. So I don't think that you have anything to worry about, dear GW.

It never ceases to amaze me how much depth of insight you have into the LOO. You hear about the war in heaven, but knowing that could be a past war makes all the difference. I don't want to be involved in war if I can avoid it. But I do want to serve Creator, plus my social memory complex. I want to be there for them. I may have had my share of troubles and complained about them on the forum, but I do still have that childlike sparkle about me. A certain innocence that I'm coming from. But I also do realize there's always more I can be doing for others.