Wanderers and the Harvest

[Marc]

> Always remember, if you feel that you're a wanderer, you're here to help *other selves* make the harvest.

I disagree strongly. In my experience, a wanderer may have many different motives. I have very little interest in helping "*other selves* make the harvest", if only because there are plenty of others already doing that.

This planet has a unique "colour" of negativity that has created many unique aspects of consciousness, and I'm most interested in retaining these aspects, but detached from their negative origins. This requires me to "identify" with the negative aspects that created them, then "dis-identify" whilst carrying the valuable "condensations" with me. Very difficult and only ever partially successful in a first attempt, but my success rate is improving. This leaves me no time to trouble myself with the "harvestability" of those who are probably lost causes in any case.

My best wishes to those carrying on this other humanitarian work, but I think it's very misleading to insist that novice wanderers should abide by what is essentially an Abrahamic interpretation of the role.

That sounds like a very interesting and wonderful adventure. I wish you, as the creator, love/light in your journey. There is no "divine will" that one must follow but rather one creates their own divine will and then follows it. Each person is here for their own purpose of discovering themselves/the creator. I may join you in your experiments with consciousness in some time/space.

[Charles]

Wanderers in 3D can certainly do as they like, and what they like, what comes easy and natural, is human decency.

Some, at some point, realized what they are. Perhaps some incarnated into greed and arrogance and lost their way. While others needed (requested) lives of physical and emotional pain, to help them awaken their innate empathy and compassion.

In my case, joy and pain have been my teachers. The trouble with constant insult to body and mind, is that while it teaches love for others, it causes self esteem issues.

My heard but unseen family have told me that I have no worries about Harvest. I am what I am, even though I deny it and feel frightened. I am not here to just be an example, I am here to listen and to teach, one soul at a time.

While my teachers say, "no hurry, in your own time" . . . They also say, "sooner is better because you could help so many more." I'm wrapping my head around my responsibility.

I have learned a lot about empathy and endurance and self healing, and I do have something to teach.

I understand what Ra means by re-learning or fully remembering "with great effort."

When I finally die, I will have free will choice. As things stand, my choice is to leave here and never return. But when given that choice, with the veil removed, and with my full awareness, I've no idea what I will do. I truly do hope to never return.

I am also very grateful for the patience and understanding of my unseen family / teachers / guides / companions. And I am very grateful for my untarnished certainty of their, and That Ones, love.

[AnthroHeart]

I truly do hope to never return.

I'm with you on that one. I feel I could do so much more in 4D. I'm out of ideas for my 3D existence. I mean if I am harvestable anyway, and some say that we've already been harvested, why do we need to worry about how we serve?

[Charles]

Ah, Gemini, if we are 4D or 5D, we care and we want to help.

My memory of consistent joy and comfort includes helping other souls. I want to live my truth while still in this body.

I selfishly long to become mySelf, and helping others will be healing for me.

All of life is like that, the joy of helping others is greater than the joy of receiving help. That is the well known secret behind generosity.

Realizing and living our purpose, is and will continue to be, bliss.

[AnthroHeart]

I wonder how beings in 4D can serve those in 3D besides working through channels for material. A 4D being visiting a 3D being seems to violate free will. So everything has to be done remotely.
Or can 4D beings serve other 4D beings? Is that the bulk of the work?
I do have a longing to be able to serve from 4D or higher density.
3D seems to have grown old for me. Even though I'm only 36, it feels all old.
There is no longer any magic in my life. But real magic is the realm of 4D isn't it.
Thanks for your words Charles. They help bring meaning to me being here.
I guess I'm a servant whether I realize it or not, just by being here. I don't believe I have incarnated into greed or arrogance, so I at least have that going for me.

[52midnight]

Ra pointed out that the negative races are more creative and innovative than most positive races. The tendency of the latter is to 'fly to the light' - it seems so natural, healthy, and joyful, and it is. But having arrived there, they find that they've passed by many opportunities of experience. There is no need for poetry, music, technology, handicrafts and hobbies if all you want is to achieve enlightenment; in fact, they can easily be seen as obstacles. The technologies evolved by the strongly positive races are purely pyschophysical - mind over matter - and they have no detailed understanding of chemistry, physics, and so forth such as have been developed here.

Speaking for myself, these are the things that interest me during my 3D experience here. I've little expectation of using them in this world. Like so many others, I've no real desire to return here. But I've gained so much insight into "unnecessary" aspects of Nature and the physical world that were simply bypassed in my previous experience that simple gratitude forces me to hold this option open, at least to a degree.

It's not easy to abstract out the joyful and beneficial knowledge - and more importantly the underlying concepts. These are all you can take with you beyond physical existence, and have to be "regrown" in whatever culture, language, and skills base is encountered in the next material incarnation - a considerable philosophical and intellectual challenge. This is my personal version of STO - to become a "seed soul" in a subsequent life recreating valuable and joyful scientific and artistic potentials amongst more positively oriented and less destructive peoples. I've no interest in trying to help others here become "harvestable". Passing control over one's own life to another is one of the riskiest, and usually most foolish things one can do. I've no intention of encouraging others so to do, and even less of accepting responsibility for another's evolution.

But do as you will; follow the Abrahamic tradition of surrender to an imagined "God" and his mawkish "Saviour Son" if that is what appeals, or try to take on the role of saviour to others if you want. It's all a learning process, but certainly not the path I want or have followed.

[Charles]

As explained earlier in this thread, simply waking into a room and radiating a peaceful loving joy, will lift hearts. Treating people respectfully and honestly, will lift hearts. Living a compassionate life will lift hearts.

And all of this also changes the vibrations on the planet and helps Gaia.

Gemini says:
A 4D being visiting a 3D being seems to violate free will. So everything has to be done remotely.

Whaaa? Whose free will? The Wanderer has chosen this purpose when clarity was intact, so not the Wanderers free will.

There are No accidents. Two strangers meet, while waiting for the same bus, or when both invited to same party, or resting on the same park bench, etc. Free will exists. I will talk to this stranger, or not. I will trust this stranger or not.

What happens to me, is that the stranger talks and will confide personal information and concerns. My first thought is that they are lucky to decide to trust me, because I know that I feel zero need to betray them. And because I know that after this sharing talk, I will completely forget everything. I will remember that I helped, and that is all, while their name, and visual appearance and concern will leave my mind.

Somehow I zone in, I give him or her my full attention, and I help. I don't know how, but I do it.

This used to happen very often, not so much since I went into seclusion.

My unseen teachers want me to do more than that. They want me to advertise, and become known, and and and, even more even than that.

I can, I can't, I can, I can't . . . . . I'm frightened, I'm nervous, I'm uncertain . . . . . I'm confused. I need to tape these "sessions" for them. I need create this work as a professional. And this is my quandary, and my constant upset and concern.

A channel doesn't come close to a one on one sharing of personal truth.

I felt old even when I was a child. 3D hasn't grown old for me, it's become a pain in the ass. I'm in my 60s.

Life, both in and out of the body is magic. "Accidents" are magic. Finding a parking space is magic. Love is magic. Living with a dog is magic. 2D is magic. 7D is magic. Energy is magic. Magic exists here and now. Magic is real. And magic is afoot.

[52midnight]

> 3D hasn't grown old for me, it's become a pain in the ass.

Then perhaps you've taken the wrong approach to it.

> I'm in my 60s.

So am I. And I'd be VERY cautious about trusting those "inner voices". The ability to "throw one's voice" into the mind of another is an elementary skill of black magic. But surrender to others if you want.

[xise]

I figure a trip into 3d is like a hard session at the gym. It's going to hurt, but you'll have moments of fun with your workout partner, joking, or with someone you randomly meet at the gym, but it's when you see the results outside of the gym (non-3d space/time), that you are like man! I feel great for so little time invested, I'll do it again.

I bet that's the reasoning for most of us, because it seems that 3d is a very short span of time in the illusion of time.

[52midnight]

My last post may have seemed a bit cynical, and I felt obliged to clarify somewhat. It's far better to make a wrong decision than to be caught in an eternity of indecision. In my experience, an unresolved problem does not result in a babel of voices in the mind, but in a "deafening silence" - UNLESS you've allowed other entities into it. Assuming that this is not the case, what's important is not the mind but the heart. If your intuition (heart) tells you that you've covered all the bases, then you're merely awaiting the crucial moment. Otherwise you've not done your homework.

If this is the case, find pencil and paper, a quiet spot, and WRITE OUT every possibility confronting you. You'll almost never find that it's a black-and-white choice - either ... or. The moment you decide on EITHER, secondary choices will arise that lead in various directions; the same if you decide on OR. Explore them all until you feel you understand them, NOT perfectly (impossible) but well enough. Then THROW THE LOT AWAY; go and do something more important; and if there's nothing more important, find something. It may take a day or two, and in my experience often happens in the early morning hours, but one night you'll wake up with the correct decision in your mind; and, more importantly, in your heart. It's often not the one you wanted, or thought wise (hence the previous indecision), but if you've the courage to follow it, the results are usually optimum.

If you HAVE let other entities into your mind, be aware that they may hate you JUST FOR WHAT YOU ARE. This is common enough in the everyday; it's even more common in the hereafter for those who have failed and are envious of those still incarnate who are succeeding at what they've failed at. They'll usually be reluctant to attack you directly; instead, they'll seek continually to delay, disturb, redirect, delay ... Only if they're potent and determined will they attack, and then you're in trouble (and you'll guess correctly that I'm speaking from many years difficult experience).

If your best efforts at "doing well" have failed, put them aside. You may well be trying to achieve old aims that are no longer relevant or useful. If they're important, they'll return. It's trite, but true; don't worry, be happy!

[Charles]

Thank you, 52midnight. Your thoughts and concerns have been heard with love.

[AnthroHeart]

No, I very much doubt it is quite that fragile.

My understanding is that your "negative orientation towards other selves" would have to become a deeply ingrained part of your character to get you caught up in the planetary vibration. The occasional deviation from an otherwise predominately STO habit of thought and behavior won't stop you from going home after this incarnation.

Thank you for the assurance. I'm doing my best to do what I feel is right. I'm serving my mother when I can by taking her places she needs to go. I serve my pets by taking care of them. But I'm not a vegetarian. I tried to go there, but found it a challenge. So I might be lacking in compassion of animals there. But I do my best to thank the animal for its sacrifice when I do consume meat. I do believe I have a predominately STO habit of thought. I want what's best for myself and others. I serve in a different fashion than Mother Teresa for instance. But I want my service, whatever it is, to be purely out of love.

It's good to know there isn't a jealous God who will punish me for my sins because I don't follow Christ that closely. The bible says the only sin not forgiven is blasphemy against the holy spirit. I'm not sure how accurate the bible is compared to reality, but I've never done that anyway. I don't even really curse that much.

[Namaste]

> Always remember, if you feel that you're a wanderer, you're here to help *other selves* make the harvest.

I disagree strongly.

With this?

12.26 Questioner: Thank you. Well, you spoke of Wanderers. Who are Wanderers? Where do they come from?

Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of its desire, it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow move towards this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to serve in this distortion.

[AnthroHeart]

I disagree strongly. In my experience, a wanderer may have many different motives. I have very little interest in helping "*other selves* make the harvest", if only because there are plenty of others already doing that.

I think those from higher density are more able to help those make the harvest. I agree with you. I work behind the scenes, sending my love into creation. It's my personal service.

[Peregrinus]

In my view, it is not important at all to have STO action (or STS action) in order to go back to their density. I see nothing in the material which suggests otherwise, so I asked the question.

I would suggest that the following condition might apply

12.28 Questioner: Are most of these from the fourth density? What density do they come from?

Ra: ... The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction.

leading to

16.61 Ra: ... If the Wanderer entity demonstrated through action a negative orientation towards other-selves it would be as we have said before, caught into the planetary vibration and, when harvested, possibly repeat again the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity. ...

However, I believe the below quote provides additional insight into the the result.

70.15 Questioner: ... If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?

Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.

[zenmaster]

You've misunderstood my post which only suggested that one does not need to polarize further...

[Parsons]

As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

[AnthroHeart]

As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

I think we are always polarizing one way or the other. Even in our sleep we have lessons that can help us polarize.

[Peregrinus]

You've misunderstood my post which only suggested that one does not need to polarize further...

My apology, yes, I misunderstood.

[zenmaster]

As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

From where did you develop a notion of neutral polarization?

[Sagittarius]

the process or phenomenon in which the waves of light or other electromagnetic radiation are restricted to certain directions of vibration, usually specified in terms of the electric field vector

Neutral polarization makes no sense.

[Parsons]

As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

From where did you develop a notion of neutral polarization?

I was merely executing my standard modus operandi of rewording the same concept twice in order to mitigate the possibility of being misunderstood. Please disregard the previous question and I'll requery:

How is it possible for an awake wanderer to not polarize at all when presented with catalyst?

[zenmaster]

As a wanderer of 3D is presented with catalyst, how is it possible to polarize neutrally / not at all if the entity is aware it is catalyst (they are 'awake' to some degree)?

From where did you develop a notion of neutral polarization?

I was merely executing my standard modus operandi of rewording the same concept twice in order to mitigate the possibility of being misunderstood. Please disregard the previous question and I'll requery:

How is it possible for an awake wanderer to not polarize at all when presented with catalyst?

I don't know how that could happen?

[darklight]

Wanderers

Let’s look at the Love Bite/Dark Side of Cupid scenario in light of the idea of Wanderers. Wanderers are individuals whose souls have incarnated from a higher density (4th or 6th density) into this 3rd density with a specific mission to accomplish in order to assist humanity, helping with The Harvest or Graduation to 4th Density during this Age of Transformation. However, due to the “veil of forgetting” when entering a lower density, the mission/task by the Wanderer is forgotten and he/she needs to awaken to what they came here to do.

Wanderers need to become conscious and aware of the traps, deceptions and distractions in 3rd density which may interfere with their mission since most people are NOT like them, but have a different inner wiring so to speak. Ra mentions that “the Wanderer is less inclined to the deviousness of third density and therefore does not recognize as easily as a more negative individual would, the negative nature of thoughts or beings“.

“Ra tells us that wanderers are vulnerable because they become completely the creature of third density in mind and body, and are, by nature, less inclined to deviousness and manipulation. For this reason, they often do not recognize as easily the negative nature of other beings or thoughts before they become involved with them.Then, very often, because of this very lack of perception of negativity, they often persist in relationships that are negative because they repeatedly attribute to the other person their own benevolent motives and perceptions.

Additionally, there is just as much chance of negative hyperdimensional telepathic mind control influence being brought to bear on a wanderer as anyone else. The only difference occurs in what Ra calls the “spirit complex” which, if it wishes, has an armor of light which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not appropriately desired. This is not more than a bias, and cannot be called an understanding. So, in other words, you just have an instinct about things that are not right. But then, with all our be-nice programming, we generally override the instinct and shove such signals under the rug, or search endlessly for reasons to excuse bad behavior…. Ra and the Cs both confirm that wanderers, however they are defined, are most definitely high-priority targets of the Matrix Controllers.“

- Laura Knight-Jadczyk, The Wave (Volume 2): Soul Hackers – The Hidden Hands Behind The New Age Movement

Wanderers are not only subject to hypedimensional manipulation in this Matrix Control System as everyone else, but are PRIMARY targets of the 4D STS forces because their mission obviously interferes with the plans of the controllers of this world and they don’t want this to happen. They don’t want to loose their food source.

Laura Knight-Jadczyk makes an excellent analysis of this issue in “Soul Hackers – The Hidden Hands Behind The New Age Movement” (The Wave Book 2), chapter All There Is Is Lessons, or Wandering Around in Third Density Can Be Hazardous to Your Health. Here’s a longer excerpt:

The problem seems to be that of “waking up” [of the wanderer] to the nature of the mission and this presents special problems. Ra gives us several more clues:

“Wanderers become completely the creatures of third density in mind/body complex. There is just as much chance of [them being subjected to Orion STS mind programming attempts] as to a mind/body complex of [strictly third density]. The only difference occurs in the spirit complex which, if it wishes, has an armor of light, if you will, which enables it to recognize more clearly that which is not be desired by the mind/body/spirit complex. This is not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.”

So we begin to understand that even the purest of the pure are subject to corruption and deception. They do seem to have a bit of help in separating the wheat from the chaff, but Ra describes it as “not more than a bias and cannot be called an understanding.”

The problem is, the “bias” often comes into direct conflict with the mind programming efforts of the Orion STS and a lot of suffering and torture can result. And there is also a special weakness of those who are configured to STO — since they don’t have meanness and deception in their own hearts, it can take almost forever for them to see it in others who are being used to keep them from awakening! Ra remarks on this as well:

“Furthermore, the Wanderer is less inclined to the deviousness of third density and therefore does not recognize as easily as a more negative individual would, the negative nature of thoughts or beings… [If the Wanderer is successfully co-opted by the Orion STS it would be] caught into the planetary vibration and, when harvested, possibly repeat again the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity.”

Ra also confirmed Don’s remark that those with missions, Wanderers, are “high priority targets” of the Orion STS faction. That’s a scary thought!

What it means is that if a person comes into incarnation from a higher density with a mission to serve, not only are they enveloped in the “veil of forgetting”, they become special targets for a bunch of Intergalactic rapists and murderers who are only restrained in their actions by some sort of vague Law of Free Will which still allows every imaginable trick and deception to be perpetrated on them so that they will engage in relationships, beliefs, actions or reactions designed to “bring them down a few densities,” so to speak!

And they only get a “bias” toward what is Truth, and not a clear understanding!

So with all of this information we are trying to put together about what is out there just waiting to trap and deceive us, how in the world are we supposed to have a clue as to what is going on? Just who are the Good Guys here?!

“[In terms of STO contacts from the higher densities] the infringement upon free will is greatly undesired. Therefore, those entities, which are Wanderers upon your plane of illusion, will be the only subjects for the thought projections that make up the so-called “Close Encounters” and meetings…”

Ra seems to be saying that only the “Wanderers” have any hope of being in contact with the higher level “Good Guys” because they are, ipso facto, already of STO configuration and therefore, contact is not an infringement upon their free will as it would be if the STO contact came to a third density being who has not yet graduated to the higher densities.

Of course, they all look alike here on the Big Blue Marble, and they are all mostly engaged in living relatively normal lives side by side with one another. And they do have to be “awakened”! Also, there is a special condition under which Wanderers may be contacted, it seems, that pretty much eliminates your “weekend seminar” in channeling. It seems that there is an almost mathematical law involved in being able to communicate with higher density beings

If we just stop and think for a moment about the nature of most people on the planet who do not want to search or learn; they do not want to think or do the necessary work that prepares a “vessel” for the inflow of higher knowledge; they want to be “saved” with as little effort as possible, then you begin to understand the odds against contact with truly higher density STO beings. That is the operation of the Law of Free Will.

The majority of beings of third density are STS — they would not be in this density otherwise. By this choice, they have also chosen the illusions that are part of this “con job”. Yes, at a very deep level, it is a choice to experience in order to learn, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here.

By the very fact that this is the choice of the majority, the few who might truly wish to perceive the truth are overruled by the mass choice according to the law of Free Will!

Even if the being is a fourth or sixth density “Wanderer”, by entering this density, they have chosen to “play by the rules” and cannot abridge them!
[…]
Ra did give us a figure: 65 million Wanderers on the planet at the time he was speaking. That amounts to about one person out of every hundred on the planet. But how many of them survive the attacks? How many of them actually do, can, or will wake up? Particularly when we must expect them to be objects of special “attention” in terms of “attack”?
[…]
So now we begin to understand the special traps set up for these Wanderers wherein human agents are used to manipulate and control them. If they cannot be corrupted directly, the strategy is to corrupt those around them — including family, friends, spouses and associates of all kinds.
[…]
There was a curious exchange with the Cassiopaeans at one session which included another individual who also fits this profile that gives some clues as to how this occurs:

http://veilofreality.com/2014/11/22/the-...tionships/

[AnthroHeart]

^^ I didn't agree with "The majority of beings of third density are STS"

[Siren]

^^ I didn't agree with "The majority of beings of third density are STS"

You are perceptive. The majority of 3rd-density entities are confused as to their orientation (Ra's "sinkhole of indifference").

Be wary of Laura Knight-Jadczyk's Cassiopeans.

[Sabou]

lol... Intergalactic rapists and murderers

[darklight]

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17.23 ↥ Questioner: You spoke of the alleviation of karma being forgiveness. Are… are… I’m having a hard time phrasing this question. I think I’ll have to come back to it. I’ll ask this other question. Can you tell me why the Earth will be fourth-density positive instead of fourth-density negative after the cycle is complete since it seems that there is a greater negative population?

Ra: I am Ra. The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

[Unbound]

"Seems"

[darklight]

"Seems"

But the sinkhole of indifference indicates that most entities are (far) more than 49% STS (negative). Even on a 'positive' planet like Venus, only 20% of the population was able to graduate to 4th density STO after a major cycle.