Regression session

[Horuseus]

Hmm, these old threads are quite the read. Pardon me because this newbie is now going to go through them all like the devious stalker that I am.

[vervex]

Hmm, these old threads are quite the read. Pardon me because this newbie is now going to go through them all like the devious stalker that I am.

Same here Very interesting experience, especially since I'm currently reading one of Dolores Cannon's books (The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth). I find her technique and her findings to be quite interesting, and it's great to read about someone who had a regression done in the same style.

I've asked myself if I'd ever do it and the answer which came to me was that it is not necessary. I can have access to all the knowledge I wish/need from within. These sessions can bring amazing results but I believe if it was done to me, I could stumble upon a lot of information which is irrelevant to my current incarnation's mission and that, because of my human bias, could hurt me instead of helping me on the path of light and love. Basically, it's just as Ankh has explained herself. This is a confirmation of my own intuition.

Thank you Ankh for sharing your experience.

[Plenum]

apologies for the personal nature of these questions; you are free, of course, to not respond

No worries! Just happy to share.

a curious plenum

You sure was!

Why are you asking? Are you considering to do a past life regression yourself?

thanks Ankh. Appreciate the honesty

I'm not sure about the regression myself. In the last 3 years, I have had 'snippets' of memories come to me, usually triggered by deeply emotional events (although I may not have realised it at the time). One, for instance, which I have related, had to do with me making a trip to visit a sick friend ... and later that evening, during meditation, I had a memory of myself being a concerned mother sitting at the bedside of a sick daughter, with another daughter looking on. That is not to say my friend was one of the daughters, it was that the emotions I felt that day stirred some deep memories, in this case, from a different 3d life (I cannot say it was from earth, most unlikely not, as I feel this is a one time Wandering experience to this planet).

and other memories have also been triggered similiarly by real life experiences. It is almost as though the Higher Self can 'leak' these knowings to you to confirm or validate or remind oneself of something important ... and the Dolores Cannon method also seems to ask the individual to take them back to the most relevant memory to that individual's concerns; so maybe it is an assisted way of remembering when one does not have that deep intuitive pathway to Higher Self that is developed through the magical personality.

of course, such a connection is by no means necessary; as Ra says that plenty of lives go by quite happily without the conscious evokation of the Higher Self.

but for the more curious ones, such as myself

yes, I would like to know more about myself. And I am trusting that more will be revealed as it is both revelant and able to be assimilated by myself.

but yes, I have the highest respect for Dolores and the work she is doing. She assists those that may have lost their way a little, and are asking for help.

as she says, the most common question she receives is:

what is my purpose?
what am I doing here?

and without having a good sense of the answers to these questions, one can feel quite imbalanced and out of place with one's life; one cannot fully invest in the experience if you will.

anyway, I sort of went off on a tangent there

[Ankh]

thanks Ankh. Appreciate the honesty

I'm not sure about the regression myself. In the last 3 years, I have had 'snippets' of memories come to me, usually triggered by deeply emotional events (although I may not have realised it at the time). One, for instance, which I have related, had to do with me making a trip to visit a sick friend ... and later that evening, during meditation, I had a memory of myself being a concerned mother sitting at the bedside of a sick daughter, with another daughter looking on. That is not to say my friend was one of the daughters, it was that the emotions I felt that day stirred some deep memories, in this case, from a different 3d life (I cannot say it was from earth, most unlikely not, as I feel this is a one time Wandering experience to this planet).

and other memories have also been triggered similiarly by real life experiences. It is almost as though the Higher Self can 'leak' these knowings to you to confirm or validate or remind oneself of something important ... and the Dolores Cannon method also seems to ask the individual to take them back to the most relevant memory to that individual's concerns; so maybe it is an assisted way of remembering when one does not have that deep intuitive pathway to Higher Self that is developed through the magical personality.

of course, such a connection is by no means necessary; as Ra says that plenty of lives go by quite happily without the conscious evokation of the Higher Self.

but for the more curious ones, such as myself

yes, I would like to know more about myself. And I am trusting that more will be revealed as it is both revelant and able to be assimilated by myself.

but yes, I have the highest respect for Dolores and the work she is doing. She assists those that may have lost their way a little, and are asking for help.

as she says, the most common question she receives is:

what is my purpose?
what am I doing here?

and without having a good sense of the answers to these questions, one can feel quite imbalanced and out of place with one's life; one cannot fully invest in the experience if you will.

anyway, I sort of went off on a tangent there

Well, brother, if this is what you desire to do, then go for it! And good luck!

Are there any Dolores' students around the area where you live, who can do this kind of regression session? I believe that you can check it up somewhere online. Meerie did it, so you could ask her where to find these therapists who have been schooled by Dolores. Or are you planning to do this with another regression method?

I actually met Dolores last Friday when she was at the L/L house healing Carla. When she stepped out from Carla's room after healing her, Dolores said: "She'll be fine!!" Woaw - I thought - that would be a true miracle. We all are grateful to her. Another thing that she offered is to buy the rights for L/L books from Schiffer Publ. and distribute them via her own company. That would be totally awesome! Imagine that now, finally, 30+ years later, the Law of One can be found in bookstores and libraries!

Anyways, good luck to you if you decide to do such session! As I said before, I would recomend to meditate before it, in order to rise your vibration, and then to ask for the protection during this working. Another thing that the therapist mentioned who was regressing me is that it sometimes takes couple of times before the state of hyphnosis can be achieved. I never got hyphnotized as I mentioned in this thread, and so didn't Meerie, who also did a regression session with him. But he mentioned this, and said that sometimes it takes couple of times before the hyphnosis can be achieved, because the "patient" needs to get accustomed with the therapist, and sometimes it takes time for the "patient" to relax and then to trust the process... :p

[Meerie]

http://www.dolorescannon.com/find-practitioner

here you can find practitioners who have been taught by Dolores Cannon

if you want my personal opinion, I don't think regressions or knowing about past lives are necessary, unless you have maybe a severe issue, like in Carla's case with her ill ness and it is about healing.
I did it more out of curiousity, and it was interesting, but I didn't get a past life - it was more of some kind of spacey and allegoric LSD trip that I went on. (although who knows , maybe it was a past life after all)
I learnt something and it was interesting. And yes, a bit of healing was also involved.

I guess you can get the same results from meditating or whatever practice you have to get insights from your higher self or into mild trance states, if you feel comfortable doing so. Not to forget that those regressions are rather expensive.

[Plenum]

thanks for the thoughts Ankh and Meerie.

I did do a lookup of practitioners in Sydney Meerie. But like you said, these things tend to be somewhat pricy.

and Ankh, I did read a bit about Carla's experience on her blog. Hopefully all goes well for her.

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I do continue, though, as I find out more about Dolores Cannon to be in amazement at her work. She only really started this path in her mid-30's, even though she has been at it for four or more decades. Sometimes the late blooming is not necessarily detrimental

she is most definitely supported in her endeavours though. And more than earthly support is what I am referring too

[anagogy]

I actually met Dolores last Friday when she was at the L/L house healing Carla. When she stepped out from Carla's room after healing her, Dolores said: "She'll be fine!!" Woaw - I thought - that would be a true miracle.

Now there is a transcript I would LOVE to read. I bet that would be extremely enlightening to read a transcript of Carla's hypnotic super-conscious/higher self regression/healing.

Probably won't ever get to see it, but I can dream.

Actually, come to think of it, I would also love to read a transcript of your regression into the superconscious state Ankh.

But totally understandable if that is simply too personal. I have an endless curiosity about such things.

Take care.

[Ankh]

Actually, come to think of it, I would also love to read a transcript of your regression into the superconscious state Ankh.

But totally understandable if that is simply too personal. I have an endless curiosity about such things.

Take care.

The session is in Swedish, brother. Sadly enough, I don't have the time to transcribe it and to translate it to English. But if it would serve anyone, I don't mind sharing it, even if it's just for stilling someone's curiosity.

[Steppingfeet]

I actually met Dolores last Friday when she was at the L/L house healing Carla. When she stepped out from Carla's room after healing her, Dolores said: "She'll be fine!!" Woaw - I thought - that would be a true miracle. We all are grateful to her. Another thing that she offered is to buy the rights for L/L books from Schiffer Publ. and distribute them via her own company. That would be totally awesome! Imagine that now, finally, 30+ years later, the Law of One can be found in bookstores and libraries!

If I may offer a sidenote to this thread for a moment in reply to this thought. I hope to clarify the situation a little with a slight revision to Ankh's post.

Like Ankh and I'm sure nearly all of us, I would love nothing more than to see the material more widely available. Not Oprah-level publicity - because something is lost when information reaches that level of exposure, on this planet at least - just less tucked into a corner deep off the beaten path. So I have a similar enthusiasm to that which Ankh conveyed above.

The revision I offer is this. While Dolores certainly indicated strong interest in assisting Carla in getting L/L's work under her own wing, it wouldn't be a case of Dolores purchasing *all* rights to the Law of One books herself and then distributing the material, or doing with the material as she wished, according to the interests of her own publishing company.

Rather, it would be a situation of cooperation between L/L Research and Dolores' publisher negotiating a contract that satisfied the interests of both parties while preserving the purity and integrity of the Law of One material. IF Mrs. Cannon follows through, and IF the publishing rights can even be obtained from the current publisher - two big "if's" - then L/L Research wouldn't sell or make available *all* rights to the information, just lease the publishing rights within the limits of a negotiated contract that would end by a predetermined matter of years. At this very preliminary stage of consideration, we feel that Mrs. Cannon's publishing company could do a lot to help connect seeker and material.

Who knows, though, whether any of it will come to fruition. Till then, I'm with Ankh in exclaiming the awesomeness of seeing the information on bookstore shelves and libraries. We shall see. : ) GLB

[Ankh]

Then we came to the part where Higher Self enters to answer the questions. I don't know who or what that thing was, but it was not the Higher Self I have experienced this far. There was no love and no intimate relationship. That thing looked down at me, and I was still very conscious. I had almost no own thoughts at that point, and was channeling this thing's thoughts. I spoke of myself in "she" form. It could also have been a shadow part of myself, I don't know. Whatever or whoever it was, it was not the Higher Self that I've come to know. That thing was not trying to hurt me or misslead me, I felt it very clear. It was pointing into the direction that I had to take which is love, but whatever it was, it was cold and clever.

That's mentioned in Dolores Cannons books also... during the sessions, the HS talks about you in the 3rd form and it comes across as cold and impersonal.

Meerie, do you remember when we had this discussion about whether it was my Higher Self or not, speaking during that regression session that I had almost 2 years? I think that I now understand what happened!

What was evoked is the so called "magical personality". This personality is evoked in small degrees or percentages as the self becomes more adept, as I understand it:

Questioner: Now in the invocation of the magical personality it is not necessarily effective for the neophyte. Is there a point at which there is a definite quantum change and that then the magical personality does reside in the neophyte, or can it be done in small degrees or percentages of magical personality as the neophyte becomes more adept?

Ra: I am Ra. The latter is correct.

At that time, when I was doing this regression, almost 2 years ago, there were components that wasn't developed in me, because "when the magical personality is properly and efficaciously invoked the self has invoked its Higher Self." (Ra, 75.36)

The magical personality has three aspects which is to be developed in order to develop the basic tool of the adept, its self:

The three aspects of the magical personality, power, love, and wisdom, are so called in order that attention be paid to each aspect in developing the basic tool of the adept; that is, its self.

At that time, I have not yet developed love. The aspect of power was also not developed as to have a purpose. Power is sought in order to *serve*:

The three aspects are given that the neophyte not abuse the tools of its trade but rather approach those tools balanced in the center of love and wisdom and thus seeking power in order to serve.

Or as Ra said in 73.11:

In the magical personality desire, will, and polarity are the keys.

I lacked, at that time, love and polarity/power to serve, and thus, what was evoked was a certain degree or percentage of the magical personality. What was evoked, as I already felt and sensed and was almost convinced at the time I experienced this meeting with this being, was NOT my Higher Self, but the magical personality lacking aspects that are quite central and important, i.e. love and polarity...

*phew* it feels good for the moment to have solved this riddle, although I might be wrong in this...

[anagogy]

*phew* it feels good for the moment to have solved this riddle, although I might be wrong in this...

Hi Ankh,

Another possibility, which I would like to inject here, being somewhat familiar with Dolores Cannon's work is that the entity you were channeling was simply your subconscious self, which has been described in Cannon's work as being completely unemotional and objective, but yet is still an essential part of your makeup. It appears in much of Cannon's work that contact with the Higher Self, while it appears to often happen in her sessions (and I presume her students sessions) does not always occur. From my study of her work, she generally calls the self that is dredged up or channeled in her sessions "the subconscious", which, in many circumstances she regards as being the same thing as the Higher Self, but I think in many cases, it simply doesn't progress quite that far (judging by the various transcripts of sessions I have read).

In her sessions, she appears mostly concerned with contacting the part, any part, of the mind that has the answers we are seeking, and the subconscious has many of these answers, it being the part of our minds we put what we are not consciously privy to. So, in a sense, this subconscious is very much a kind of "shadow self", though, not to confuse it with evil. As you said, it was not trying to deceive you in any way, it was just cold and objective.

This is just speculation, but I feel it is important to understand that there are, in fact, distinctions between the subconscious level of consciousness and the higher self level of consciousness.

[Lycen]

Oh yes a very interesting read thank you all who partook it, it's is a joy to see so much love .) Now my aim is not to bring up something which may be bothers to you Ankh out of spite. But because after reading the whole thread I felt like the conclusion I hoped was not to be seen..

I don't love myself, and therefore, I don't accept love directed to me offered from others.

Reading this gives me a I need to do something feeling. Being selfish I wish that you work off your quilt and let the love and light you shine to others heal/balance you as well. IMO there is always a right time for anything and maybe you needed/need this quilt then/now. But I follow what I feel and perhaps I am a piece that has to nudge this once again. Even when I think all is well, even when you were/are hurting. Everything is perfect, everything moves the way it should, we choose how to perceive what we are 'given'. So it's painful/sad to read when others are hurting but yet I think/know it's okay. It's a choice we all make. What I wanted to get at is..

Do the quoted words from that Ankh, still hold true for you?

I do what I feel, so if I am in anyway rude or too nosy, I apologies. I can see reasons why one would not want to answer this question. And I would feel terrible if I added a burden to you because I am unwise. Thus I am ok if it's something you would rather not touch upon.

In my eyes you are a very loving person, what ever els you may think about your self, meine is better! So yeah forget what you think about your self, what matters is what I think *professor nod* Go with the flow, yu know!?

[Meerie]

Hmm the linking higher self to the magical persona does not necessarily resonate with me Ankh, but what matters is that it helps you I guess.

I go more with anagogy now, that does make more sense.. in my case I am not even sure it was the subconscious.
Maybe it was my conscious all the time, since I was "fully present" during the whole session and sometimes wondered if I was not making all that up anyways.
But what do I know...

[Ankh]

Oh yes a very interesting read thank you all who partook it, it's is a joy to see so much love .) Now my aim is not to bring up something which may be bothers to you Ankh out of spite. But because after reading the whole thread I felt like the conclusion I hoped was not to be seen..

What conclusion did you hope for, brother?

And you don't bother at all! No worries about asking me whatever!

I don't love myself, and therefore, I don't accept love directed to me offered from others.

Reading this gives me a I need to do something feeling. Being selfish I wish that you work off your quilt and let the love and light you shine to others heal/balance you as well. IMO there is always a right time for anything and maybe you needed/need this quilt then/now. But I follow what I feel and perhaps I am a piece that has to nudge this once again. Even when I think all is well, even when you were/are hurting. Everything is perfect, everything moves the way it should, we choose how to perceive what we are 'given'. So it's painful/sad to read when others are hurting but yet I think/know it's okay. It's a choice we all make. What I wanted to get at is..

Do the quoted words from that Ankh, still hold true for you?

Of course they still hold true, brother, cause I haven't become Jesus yet!

What I mean is that we are in the density which teaches lessons of love. These lessons will be ongoing for the rest of our incarnation, or until we reach universal love.

(I am working on it, and when I'll find it, I promise to show off and walk on water. )

I do what I feel, so if I am in anyway rude or too nosy, I apologies. I can see reasons why one would not want to answer this question. And I would feel terrible if I added a burden to you because I am unwise. Thus I am ok if it's something you would rather not touch upon.

In my eyes you are a very loving person, what ever els you may think about your self, meine is better! So yeah forget what you think about your self, what matters is what I think *professor nod* Go with the flow, yu know!?

Thank you, you beautiful soul! I hope that you understand that the words you wrote apply to you as well.

Hmm the linking higher self to the magical persona does not necessarily resonate with me Ankh, but what matters is that it helps you I guess.

I go more with anagogy now, that does make more sense.. in my case I am not even sure it was the subconscious.
Maybe it was my conscious all the time, since I was "fully present" during the whole session and sometimes wondered if I was not making all that up anyways.
But what do I know...

You did the same session with the same therapist... Do you think that it was your Higher Self that you spoke to in your session?

[Meerie]

As I just said I am not sure it was HS....
but the connection changed a bit.
When I relistened to the tape I noticed that my voice changed and everything got even slower, when the higher self supposedly came thru...
It didn't necessarily sound cold, more like sleepy
and at one point when I started getting visuals I got a bit excited too.
So could have been subconscious also, I guess.

Walking on water is a bit lame, Ankh. How about changing the water into wine?

[Lycen]

What conclusion did you hope for, brother?

And you don't bother at all! No worries about asking me whatever!

Well.. I was reeeeeally hoping that at one point you would find a reason to let go of quilt. I did not perceive that happening, perhaps I missed it..

I find it at times very hard to interact with peeps. I am glad that I came off acceptably

Of course they still hold true, brother, cause I haven't become Jesus yet!

What I mean is that we are in the density which teaches lessons of love. These lessons will be ongoing for the rest of our incarnation, or until we reach universal love.

(I am working on it, and when I'll find it, I promise to show off and walk on water. )

I hoped for answer like "Me and guilt? Naaaa that is a thing of the past, dealing with other stuff naou! :3" *disclaimer*Also in no way do I think one should become Jesus */disclaimer* But I perceived an unbalanced guilt so to speak, as it was shadowing you.
Yet going by your response you seem okay, I think knowing of it.

No water walking is necessary.. (but if ya can, totally go for it!)

Thank you, you beautiful soul! I hope that you understand that the words you wrote apply to you as well.

I dare not offer such words to 'me', that's how big of a fool I am. Fully well knowing that offering them to you is an illusion. As anything I give or take is to/from us to/from the (I) which we all are. Yet for some reasons I do not always practice what I am aware. Mayhaps I lack faith

Buuut.. Thank you, I treasure what you wrote!

[Ankh]

Walking on water is a bit lame, Ankh. How about changing the water into wine?

Deal!! How about beer too?

Well.. I was reeeeeally hoping that at one point you would find a reason to let go of quilt. I did not perceive that happening, perhaps I missed it..

You didn't miss it. It's still there. :p

But I perceived an unbalanced guilt so to speak, as it was shadowing you.
Yet going by your response you seem okay, I think knowing of it.

Yeah, I'm ok. Sort of. Working on it. But using light touch is always helpful.

No water walking is necessary..

How about making water into wine then? :p

I dare not offer such words to 'me', that's how big of a fool I am. Fully well knowing that offering them to you is an illusion. As anything I give or take is to/from us to/from the (I) which we all are. Yet for some reasons I do not always practice what I am aware. Mayhaps I lack faith

Buuut.. Thank you, I treasure what you wrote!

Ahhh... I know this catalyst! It is so difficult in this density, brother, and you just walk in your own pace. But equipment such as faith is a useful stick to have when walking the path of a fool. :p

[Lycen]

Thank you for your patients sis. I shall cool my jets and not bugger you on about it .)

[Ankh]

You don't bug me, brother.

[Confused]

How about changing the water into wine?

Now I can sense as to why your HS was more sleepy in nature! :p

[Meerie]

Lol

I was perfectly sober during that session!


Ankh how do you balance guilt?
do you use Ra's balancing exercice?

[Ankh]

Lol

I was perfectly sober during that session!


Ankh how do you balance guilt?
do you use Ra's balancing exercice?

lol!!

What balancing exercise do you mean, M, the one stated in 15.12?

[Meerie]

How many balancing exercices are there in Ra?

was it the one you mentioned that you did?

[Ankh]

How many balancing exercices are there in Ra?

was it the one you mentioned that you did?

Well, in 15.12 Ra says that balancing is an understanding of each energy center. But if you want to be more specific, like with feelings of guilt, you have to go to exercise 5.2 I guess, and locate this guilt in the energy centers. Then to accentuate it and let it flow through you. Then to locate its opposite consciously, and accentuate that. And then accept them both.

What is the opposite of guilt by the way?

[Meerie]

Lol! there we go.
The opposite of guilt? unguilt?
anyways, I was only curious whether you had done that exercice, that is all.

[AnthroHeart]

I think the opposite of guilt is forgiveness.

[Ankh]

anyways, I was only curious whether you had done that exercice, that is all.

I do these exercises occasionally, but lack discipline in my thinking. I understand that this perception of lacking discipline is yet another distortion though, to be acknowledged and accepted within the self. I have not done this exercise focusing on feelings of guilt particuarly.

I think that forgiveness is a good opposite of guilt!

There is another exercise that I came to think of in regards to "random energies" that we are experiencing in this density, upon this Earth:

The entity polarizing positively perceives the anger. This entity, if using this catalyst mentally, blesses and loves this anger in itself. It then intensifies this anger consciously in mind alone until the folly of this red-ray energy is perceived not as folly in itself but as energy subject to spiritual entropy due to the randomness of energy being used.

Positive orientation then provides the will and faith to continue this mentally intense experience of letting the anger be understood, accepted, and integrated with the mind/body/spirit complex. The other-self which is the object of anger is thus transformed into an object of acceptance, understanding, and accommodation, all being reintegrated using the great energy which anger began.

Maybe the above could be done using guilt as a catalyst too?

[BrownEye]

After constant 1:11 and 11:11 this week, I passed my QHHT exam with the message "on April 11 at 1:11am".