Mayan explanation of what will happen on 21st December 2012

[Monica]

Well this is an interesting twist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8y0MR8KiY8

[Oceania]

whatwhat??? what scientists?

[Monica]

I dunno. I have only watched half of it so far. I was really surprised by all the technical talk of protons, particle accelerators, etc.! Since when did shamans concern themselves with that stuff?

[Oceania]

sounds iffy. are scientists doing something that day?

[Charles]

I think it sound iffy too. Didn't hear it all when I realized that I don't have a half hour free right now . . . so probably tomorrow.

But That One and our Earth have had this planned for thousands of years. If anyone one (let alone 3D humans) decide to screw with it, I think the perfectly attuned machine won't work.

[Oceania]

and i'll be pissed if they try to screw with it!

[SomaticDreams]

Well this is an interesting twist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8y0MR8KiY8

The sound and video are not too clear throughout the video. I'm dubious of this 'elder'- they offer readings in the calendar to 'vibrate' at your proper frequency for a donation.

I believe anyone can read the Mayan calendar to figure out both their sign and tone, right? I'm not big into the Mayan narrative anyways, so I might be mistaken.

The problem with much of the channeled or so called new age material is that it gets reiterated so often that people run into confirmation bias all too often. I'd be interested in hearing the entire speech but, I'm unable to. The audio and video cut out at various points, and there aren't many videos of this fellow.

Thanks for posting this though. Still interesting to hear new perspectives.

[neutral333]

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Here is the best (and most elaborate) discusiion I have heard about Dec. 21st-23rd 2012:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDN_JVOIeZU

[neutral333]

Interesting how many have dismissed it without having even watched it in its entirety. The Q&A part at the end is very interesting.

I find this to be very genuine.

I will be at the mounds of Aztalan meditating on the 22nd.

[Ashim]

Sounds right to me.
Always did wonder about that Cern logo.
Well worth watching the complete vid - you are right neutral333 there seems to be a rapid increase of posters all to willing to 'de-bunk' or classify something as a 'hoax' without even reading / watching the information provided for discussion.
Looks like someone needs to update their training manual.

[Naktis]

what the Mayan says in the first 4 mins sounds a little bit like this.

the woman looked at me point blank and said this.......

"ON THE 21st AT TEN UNTIL FIVE AM OUR GOVERNMENT ALONG WITH MILITARY CONTRACTING COMPANIES IN THE NORTHWEST ARE GOING TO TRY AND FLIP THE GLOBES POLARITY USING SOME KIND OF TECHNOLOGY IN ALASKA. MY BROTHER THINKS IT IS GOING DESTABILIZE MANY PLACES LITERALLY RELEASING MANY PEOPLE AND PLANES AND THINGS UP INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AND IT WILL FEEL LIKE EARTHQUAKES AND STORMS BUT IT IS THE POLARITY SHIFTING."

Without blinking an eye or skipping a beat I asked who is your brother? She said this....

"MY BROTHER IS AN AEROSPACE ENGINEER AT BOEING. HE TOLD ME TO QUIT STICKING MONEY IN MY HOUSE AND MOVE TO WASHINGTON WHERE HE IS AND WHERE I WILL BE SAFE WITH HIM."


... a little bit similar.

[Charles]

We do know that we have free will, and that we are being given a choice.

So choose: calm or fear . . . love or hate . . . peace or war . . . compassion or greed . . . a higher frequency New Golden Age, or an Apocalypse.

Ashim:

Looks like someone needs to update their training manual.

That One is more powerful that any of our machines.

For some of us war, hate, lies and greed will continue.
For some of us it will stop.

Will it be sudden or gradual? Will the veil be lifted, or will it remain, or will a new one be in place? I don't know.

But I do know that my sanity requires peace. And I do know that we are powerful beings, and that what we choose to think or believe can effect what manifests. And it is possible that more than one reality may manifest.

I Think, that 12/22/12 will be just another day. I think that change will be gradual. I hope that this subtle and slow change will be both positive, and punctuated with the occasional amazement.

And I hope that we will continue to be posting here throughout it all.

[Dinko]

We do know that we have free will, and that we are being given a choice.

So choose: calm or fear . . . love or hate . . . peace or war . . . compassion or greed . . . a higher frequency New Golden Age, or an Apocalypse.

Ashim:

Looks like someone needs to update their training manual.

That One is more powerful that any of our machines.

For some of us war, hate, lies and greed will continue.
For some of us it will stop.

Will it be sudden or gradual? Will the veil be lifted, or will it remain, or will a new one be in place? I don't know.

But I do know that my sanity requires peace. And I do know that we are powerful beings, and that what we choose to think or believe can effect what manifests. And it is possible that more than one reality may manifest.

I Think, that 12/22/12 will be just another day. I think that change will be gradual. I hope that this subtle and slow change will be both positive, and punctuated with the occasional amazement.

And I hope that we will continue to be posting here throughout it all.

fair statement indeed...

[Parsons]

They talk about counter-acting the scientific shenanigans in the video... I'm not sure how that's similar to what is being said in that ATS post since they are talking about counter-acting it...

[cosmiclady]

This video was very informative. I watched it twice. The scientist, AcTal has his own website, www.actal2012.com, where the same video is shown.
There is nothing fearsome about what he explained. His parents believe that he was chosen from childhood or before, to teach people about Dec 21, so you can see how he has prepared from a young age. He explains the poles of the earth have already shifted eighteen degrees. I think this refers to the magnetic poles; in other words, the crust of the earth is not going to shift, throwing people and things out into space. He showed a series of footwork and arm positions, sort of like a kata, that are done to increase a person's magnetic field. According to Actal, one should perform these steps to prolong receiving the energy coming into the earth on Dec. 21. This energy may only last eight minutes, not enough for ascension; increasing one's receptivity can help its effect, so that it can last up to three months.
I have not done the dance, but I try to meditate.

[Monica]

Well I finally watched the rest of it. My hubby and I watched it together last night. I had mixed feelings about it. I thought the part about us each being a pyramid particle accelerator was intriguing, but I also noticed some contradictions. My hubby, who is Hispanic and could understand the Spanish, thought it was all bogus. His said his bullshit meter was off the charts.

[Parsons]

How did you husband feel about the idea of the Dec 21st harvest phenomenon before watching the video?

[Monica]

How did you husband feel about the idea of the Dec 21st harvest phenomenon before watching the video?

That's a very important question. He's awake and aware; he just thinks there is a lot of hype out there and a lot of people capitalizing on it. Which I agree with.

We've both encountered many charlatans, as well as those whom we believed to be authentic.