2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose

[David Junior]

Well, it's like Ra said. There is no right or wrong (morally). The negative path is just the path of "that which is not"...meaning you are NOT all important and above your slaves if you are some 5d STS master. You are just compounding the illusion you are already in by believing that. You ARE your slaves, you are one with the all.

I remember something about the previous universe not having this dichotomy of STS and STO...and that the "theme" or whatever you wanna call it in that universe was one of "the mover and the moved". Sounds pretty interesting, like a less complicated version of the whole Good VS Bad thing in this universe (or is it only local to this galaxy?). Can you imagine what the underlying principle or schism of the one, would be in the next octave? It boggles my mind to imagine this.

So yes, I would most definitely agree with our brothers/sisters of Q'uo in saying that this heavy veiling thing is an epic fail. Yes I said Epic. It is to me .

Godspeed!

The uveiling off Our Major Logos is just beginning.If you follow The Good Book as well,It refers to a major comming.

Blessed be The Light

[Oldern]

I just finished reading Bringers of the Dawn and it describes this system as being one composed entirely of darkness before, and part of the Lightworker's business here is to open the system to light for the first time.

there was Ra social memory complex in this system, they went from 4d to 6d positive in this system. there apparently have come other positive social memory complexes after them in venus apparently, since it is still inhabited by 5/6d entities. there werent any social memory complexes in this system apart from those. maldek destroyed itself, mars experience was destroyed before graduation, so there hasnt been any other social memory complex that could be negative.

in the light of this information i wouldnt trust that source too much.

I really would not dare to start some argument here, but maybe there is more to this "system" than the current 9/10/whatever planets, cant it be? Time is an illusion, after all. And someone has to sit in the Council anyway, I do not think only 2-3 social memory complexes are there. Which means all the positive entities should be balanced out by "negative" ones (up till 5d anyway), wherever they are.

[zenmaster]

Could be that Ra's society was seeded and/or assisted in some manner by higher-density beings.

[βαθμιαίος]

Could be that Ra's society was seeded and/or assisted in some manner by higher-density beings.

Yup.

60.16 ...When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help...

[unity100]

I just finished reading Bringers of the Dawn and it describes this system as being one composed entirely of darkness before, and part of the Lightworker's business here is to open the system to light for the first time.

there was Ra social memory complex in this system, they went from 4d to 6d positive in this system. there apparently have come other positive social memory complexes after them in venus apparently, since it is still inhabited by 5/6d entities. there werent any social memory complexes in this system apart from those. maldek destroyed itself, mars experience was destroyed before graduation, so there hasnt been any other social memory complex that could be negative.

in the light of this information i wouldnt trust that source too much.

I really would not dare to start some argument here, but maybe there is more to this "system" than the current 9/10/whatever planets, cant it be? Time is an illusion, after all. And someone has to sit in the Council anyway, I do not think only 2-3 social memory complexes are there. Which means all the positive entities should be balanced out by "negative" ones (up till 5d anyway), wherever they are.

all planetary bodies or celestial constructs which were capable of supporting any density beings were counted in the material. including the saturn's rings, where council resides.

[Tenet Nosce]

Actually I came across some interesting information the other day which might pertain to this. According to scientists, the solar system is in a "superbubble" which is a remnant of this space being earlier occupied by an O/B star pair. This is referred to as the "Local Bubble"




Other "superbubbles" occur in BOTH Orion AND Ophiuchus. (Recall these are opposite each other in the sky. Oxygen has been detected in both areas as well) .

ANOTHER "superbubble" is in the Large Magellanic Cloud, which is a satellite galaxy to our own. There is a stream of energy/particles originating from the LMC that is flowing into the Milky Way.. AND if I am not mistaken, this stream crosses through the galactic plane very close to where our solar system is right now.

http://www.spacetoday.org/DeepSpace/Deep...ories.html

At any rate, astronomers think the Large Magellanic Cloud may have been closer to Earth once upon a time as it drifted past the Milky Way a billion years ago.

A trail of gas and dust, which astronomers call the Magellanic Stream, extends across our sky. The Magellanic Stream probably is matter ripped away from the Large Magellanic Cloud by Milky Way gravity.

It's not clear whether the Magellanic Clouds are satellite galaxies of the Milky Way, forever circling us, or simply passers-by on a one-time chance encounter as they make their way through the Universe.

Also see these articles:


Exoplanet found… from another galaxy!!
How Milky Way’s Spiral Arms Formed

And some visuals:








I think this constitutes decent evidence that our solar system is not the first creation to take place in this space. So it wouldn't surprise me if there were remnants of that evolutionary octave still present here/now.

[Observer]

I'd like to thank you immensely for all of the quotes Cyclops.

[fr33d0m]

I am officially mind blown by this thread and will require much time to consider an intelligent response to it. Would I have still come here to try and save this experiment even if I thought the Sun were nuts and the odds of success were slim to none? You bet. We wanderers are crazy like that. After all this is done and we are sitting around the table on the other side, first round of drinks on me.

[Plenum]

it's funny, because I've found that Ra's descriptions of the Logos paint it as a being with a-morality. That is, like a scientist, it will experiment with whatever parameters it so pleases. One example, the Logos tried creating beings that had no pain response, so these entities ended up hurting themselves and becoming 'unviable' in Ra's words. Such a thing seen from human eyes would seem to be unconscionable (experimenting with life to see what works). Then again, our geneticists are doing the exact same thing behind closed doors.

maybe to the Creator that's what this whole thing is about; an EXPERIMENT in consciousness.

[Siren]

it's funny, because I've found that Ra's descriptions of the Logos paint it as a being with a-morality. That is, like a scientist, it will experiment with whatever parameters it so pleases.

When you realize that you, a limited, individuated fragment of the Logos, ARE in fact the Logos experimenting with itself, your perspective changes. However, this is not something that is normally, nor can easily be, grasped within the confines of this 3rd density (especially on this particular planet). There is still a strong sense of duality—of "righteousness" VS "wickedness"—on this planet, yet "morality" is but a human invention (but this will radically change from 4D onward). You see, everything you witness, experience and perform, is a service. And there is only one service; and in its infinite gradients of exploration and gamuts of expression, this one service will simultaneously be labeled "good" and "evil;" yet there is, was and ever shall be one service: to the One Infinite Creator.